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01 Sep 2006 07:29:34 AM |
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The Bush lie that is killing American troops and Iraqi civilians |
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
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01 Sep 2006 08:29:16 AM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
All of those statements are consistent. I guess the nuances are too subtle
for Hopeless.
He would rather bleet that "Bu-u-u-u-ush li-i-i-i-i-i-ied"
I hope this is the Democratic party platform on which they will lose again.
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01 Sep 2006 09:24:41 AM |
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"Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
All of those statements are consistent.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!
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01 Sep 2006 08:00:37 PM |
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"Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
All of those statements are consistent. I guess the nuances are too subtle
for Hopeless.
I bet this is one of those insane Christofascists that pay through
their Christian mythologies and try to reconcile all the fatal
contradictions and physical impossibilities.
Jesus fucking H. Christ these Christian terrorists are stupid.
---
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0728/p06s01-wome.htm
Christians approve fighting Israeli terrorism.
http://www.debunking911.com/
Everyone approves fighting 911 conspiracy kooks.
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03 Sep 2006 02:57:57 AM |
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Taylor wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
All of those statements are consistent. I guess the nuances are too subtle
for Hopeless.
Yeah, they're all lies Chimpoleon told.
He would rather bleet that "Bu-u-u-u-ush li-i-i-i-i-i-ied"
I hope this is the Democratic party platform on which they will lose again.
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Taylor wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
All of those statements are consistent. I guess the nuances are too subtle
for Hopeless.
Consistent with what? A reporter asked Bush what Iraq had to do with
9/11 and he said "Nothing." And you're saying that's consistent with
all his previous assertions about connections between Hussein and al
Qaeda?
He would rather bleet that "Bu-u-u-u-ush li-i-i-i-i-i-ied"
I hope this is the Democratic party platform on which they will lose again.
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01 Sep 2006 12:19:54 PM |
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<johnb505@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Taylor wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
All of those statements are consistent. I guess the nuances are too
subtle
for Hopeless.
Consistent with what? A reporter asked Bush what Iraq had to do with
9/11 and he said "Nothing." And you're saying that's consistent with
all his previous assertions about connections between Hussein and al
Qaeda?
He would rather bleet that "Bu-u-u-u-ush li-i-i-i-i-i-ied"
I hope this is the Democratic party platform on which they will lose
again.
I will try to explain it to you: 1. Iraq supported Al Qaeda. 2. Al Qaeda
attacked us on 9/11. That does not mean 3. Iraq had ordered 9/11, even
though all the liberals, like Hopeless here, seem to think. No one in the
Bush administration has said this. There are plenty of quotes on 1 and 2,
but no quotes on 3. Hopefully, you see this distinction.
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I will try to explain it to you: 1. Iraq supported Al Qaeda.
WRONG!
Iraq's MAIN and only provable relationship to terrorism is the claim that
Iraq (Saddam Hussein) paid the families of suicide bombers who acted against
Israel!
2. Al Qaeda
attacked us on 9/11.
and, for the most part, has NOT been caught, tried and convited of that act!
That does not mean 3. Iraq had ordered 9/11, even
though all the liberals, like Hopeless here, seem to think.
Liberals KNOW the two are not connected.
It is Bush and his corrupt associates who USED that as an excuse to invade
Iraq!!
No one in the
Bush administration has said this. There are plenty of quotes on 1 and 2,
but no quotes on 3. Hopefully, you see this distinction.
Then why is the Bush administration CONSTANTLY associating 9/11 (and
Al-Qaeda) with the illegal war in Iraq?
Hopefully you are not that stupid that ONLY - WORD FOR WORD direct quotes
mean anything!
A: All thieves are named John.
B: Your namke is John.
C: You MUST be a thief.
A: The attackers of 9/11 are terrorists.
B: (By the use of Propaganda, and ONLY propaganda) Saddam Hussein and the
nation of Iraq are listed, by George " I knowe a bad guy when I look into
his eyes" Bush CALLED them terrorists.
C: We go after - what we know as, and call, terrorists; and invade Iraq
(which has NEVER attacked or harbored anyone who DID attack the United
States).
After many months of negtative results, in the so-called "war on terror" -
George Bush says he is NO LONGER INTERESTED in Osama bin Ladin!
Osama's home nation, Saudi Arabia, has done more - intentionally and
unintentionally, than Iraq to aid Al-Qaeda - yet we do nothing to them.
Pakistan, in recent history, has done more to harbor terrorists than Iraq,
yet they are now our "friends" (because we PAID them to be).
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DO you mean the people or his sheeple!?
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com...
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
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01 Sep 2006 08:52:47 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
Those would be the people who never listened to the administration,
only to the people who demonize the administration.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
Wait - when did we go from "Saddam Hussein ordered" to
"Saddam was somehow involved"? It seems to me there's
a major difference between the meaning of those two phrases.
No one likes to think that their President is lying,
No, there are many of his detractors who love to shout it
from the rooftops.
but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric
That reverse isn't anywhere except your imagination.
is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
Nor any other evidence, but since when was that important
to you?
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Looking for "Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks"....nope, not seeing it.
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
Looking for "Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks"....nope, not seeing it.
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Looking for "Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks"....nope, not seeing it.
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
Looking for "Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks"....nope, not seeing it.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Looking for "Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks"....nope, not seeing it.
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
Laser-beam? Only to those who were very, *very* selective
about what they remember, and how they analyze what was said.
Those who cling to every scrap, desperately hoping that this, *this*,
will be that one shining truth that will bring down this administration
they hate.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
Looking for "Saddam ordered the 9/11 attacks"....nope, not seeing it.
Not seeing it anywhere, except in the imagination of those who so
desperately want Bush to be wrong that they invent positions for
him, pretend he held them so they can crow about how he abandoned
them. Strawmen, strawmen, nothing but strawmen - pathetic, that
you allow yourself to be led to such easily demolished causes, when
there's so many real things your heroes could be directing your
energies towards - but they don't, because they don't really want
your ire and energy to change anything except who is in power.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "AYBABTU" |
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| Title: Re: The Bush lie that is killing American troops and Iraqi civilians |
01 Sep 2006 07:53:49 AM |
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In article <i6agf296a7bv5cs9pg8lga5002hfkobib6@4ax.com>,
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From a Toledo Blade editorial, 8/31/06:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608310321
Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested
in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist
attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very
surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the
one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls,
believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush
to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton
claiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss
Lewinsky."
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for
perjury.
But the public record includes repeated statements by the President,
Vice President ***** Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and
other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11
attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling
point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge
for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the
al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of
America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts
that go back a decade. ... We've learned that Iraq has trained
al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address:
"And this Congress and the American people must recognize another
threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003:
"In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific:
In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning
"more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims.
In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties
with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence
misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this
much is clear:
The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction
between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists
like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the
public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the
Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet
another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush
presidency.
__________________________________________________________
As of today, 2,641 American troops are dead, 19,773 have been wounded,
tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are dead and wounded.
Harry
bush is lying? but cheney is the president.
--
"In the future you may be here, but will your dreams?"
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