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User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 15 Mar 2007 10:07:15 AM
Object: The day Bush refused Taliban's hand over of Osama Bin Laden
http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/2007/031507a.html
March 15, 2007
Bush's First 'War on Terror' Blunder
By Peter Dyer
Editor's Note: History is often the story of little-noticed
opportunities missed, potential forks in the road not taken, an
arrogant leader plunging ahead toward a catastrophe he is too
headstrong to see.
In this guest article, Peter Dyer recalls one such moment in the early
days of George W. Bush's "war on terror":
There is universal agreement that the events of Sept. 11, 2001 altered
the course of history.
However, the response of the Bush administration to 9/11 eventually
had a far greater impact than the original tragedy.
Seen in that light, Oct. 14, 2001 was an even more momentous day.
That was the day President George W. Bush rejected an offer by the
Taliban to hand over Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the 9/11
terror.
Afghanistan’s deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, had announced
that if the United States stopped bombing Afghanistan and produced
evidence of bin Laden’s involvement in 9/11, "we would be ready to
hand him over to a third country."
Bush responded:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_2001_Oct_22/ai_80338926
"There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty. …
Turn him over.”
Some U.S. officials had doubts about the sincerity of Kabir’s offer as
well as the ability of the Taliban to deliver bin Laden.
But according to Milton Bearden, a former CIA station chief who
oversaw U.S. covert operations in Afghanistan in the 1980s:
“We never heard what they were trying to say. We had no common
language. Ours was, 'Give up bin Laden.' They were saying, 'Do
something to help us give him up.' … I have no doubts they wanted to
get rid of him. He was a pain in the neck.'' [Washington Post, Oct.
29, 2001]
The President’s Oct. 14 decision to continue the bombing closed the
door on any possibility of a peaceful, legal and relatively rapid
resolution of the shocking terror of 9/11.
It essentially cemented a course of American military aggression in
the region which was to lead to the invasion and occupation of
Afghanistan and Iraq and to the threat of invasion of Iran.
If the United States had seriously pursued the Taliban’s offer,
managed to apprehend Osama bin Laden peacefully and arranged a fair
and transparent trial, such as the Madrid bombing trial currently
underway in Spain, al-Qaeda might have been neutralized without firing
a shot.
No war would have meant no Guantanamo, no Military Commissions Act, no
suspension of habeus corpus or debates about torture.
Soon after 9/11, President Bush said: "I see opportunity.”
He was right.
This was an opportunity to provide the world with a splendid
demonstration of American dedication to the rule of law and a world
without war.
U.S. international moral authority, high in the weeks following 9/11,
would have increased.
Instead, the opposite has happened.
In a recent survey by the British Broadcasting Corp.'s World Service
more than 28,000 people in 25 countries were asked to rate 12
countries – Britain, Canada, China, France, India, Iran, Israel,
Japan, North Korea, Russia, the United States and Venezuela – as
having a positive or negative influence on the world.
The United States had the third highest negative ranking, behind only
Israel and Iran.
“It appears that people around the world tend to look negatively on
countries whose profile is marked by the use or pursuit of military
power,” said Steven Kull, director of the Program on International
Policy Attitudes.
The tragedies of 9/11 are still unresolved.
The loss of innocent life has been compounded exponentially.
Thousands of civilians have been killed in Afghanistan.
Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and soldiers have been
killed.
Over three thousand U.S. soldiers have died.
In addition to the waste in human lives, the economic costs have been
monumental.
Congressional Budget Office figures show that between 2001 and 2006,
the U.S. spent $503 billion on the “war on terror.”
This figure, of course, does not reflect the devastation of the
economy of Iraq.
As high as the price of the “war on terror” has been, the results are
even more discouraging, according to a study by Peter Bergen and Paul
Cruikshank.
Based on data gathered by the National Memorial Institute for the
Prevention of Terrorism, an organization funded by the U.S. Department
of Homeland Security, the study concludes that since the invasion of
Iraq, the average yearly incidence of fatal terrorist attacks by
jihadist groups around the world has risen 607% with a 237% increase
in the rate of fatalities.
In other words, the decision made by President Bush on Oct. 14, 2001,
has contributed to a seven-fold increase in worldwide terror.
Meanwhile, over five years later, Osama bin Laden remains at large.
______________________________________________________
Dead or alive, eh, Georgie?
Harry
.

User: "The Pretzel"

Title: Re: The day Bush refused Taliban's hand over of Osama Bin Laden 15 Mar 2007 03:57:54 PM
Harry Hope wrote:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/2007/031507a.html

March 15, 2007

Bush's First 'War on Terror' Blunder

By Peter Dyer


Editor's Note: History is often the story of little-noticed
opportunities missed, potential forks in the road not taken, an
arrogant leader plunging ahead toward a catastrophe he is too
headstrong to see.

In this guest article, Peter Dyer recalls one such moment in the early
days of George W. Bush's "war on terror":


There is universal agreement that the events of Sept. 11, 2001 altered
the course of history.

However, the response of the Bush administration to 9/11 eventually
had a far greater impact than the original tragedy.


Seen in that light, Oct. 14, 2001 was an even more momentous day.

That was the day President George W. Bush rejected an offer by the
Taliban to hand over Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the 9/11
terror.

Afghanistan’s deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, had announced
that if the United States stopped bombing Afghanistan and produced
evidence of bin Laden’s involvement in 9/11, "we would be ready to
hand him over to a third country."

Bush responded:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_2001_Oct_22/ai_80338926

"There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty. …
Turn him over.”


Some U.S. officials had doubts about the sincerity of Kabir’s offer as
well as the ability of the Taliban to deliver bin Laden.

But according to Milton Bearden, a former CIA station chief who
oversaw U.S. covert operations in Afghanistan in the 1980s:

“We never heard what they were trying to say. We had no common
language. Ours was, 'Give up bin Laden.' They were saying, 'Do
something to help us give him up.' … I have no doubts they wanted to
get rid of him. He was a pain in the neck.'' [Washington Post, Oct.
29, 2001]

The President’s Oct. 14 decision to continue the bombing closed the
door on any possibility of a peaceful, legal and relatively rapid
resolution of the shocking terror of 9/11.

It essentially cemented a course of American military aggression in
the region which was to lead to the invasion and occupation of
Afghanistan and Iraq and to the threat of invasion of Iran.

If the United States had seriously pursued the Taliban’s offer,
managed to apprehend Osama bin Laden peacefully and arranged a fair
and transparent trial, such as the Madrid bombing trial currently
underway in Spain, al-Qaeda might have been neutralized without firing
a shot.

No war would have meant no Guantanamo, no Military Commissions Act, no
suspension of habeus corpus or debates about torture.

Soon after 9/11, President Bush said: "I see opportunity.”

He was right.

This was an opportunity to provide the world with a splendid
demonstration of American dedication to the rule of law and a world
without war.

U.S. international moral authority, high in the weeks following 9/11,
would have increased.

Instead, the opposite has happened.

In a recent survey by the British Broadcasting Corp.'s World Service
more than 28,000 people in 25 countries were asked to rate 12
countries – Britain, Canada, China, France, India, Iran, Israel,
Japan, North Korea, Russia, the United States and Venezuela – as
having a positive or negative influence on the world.

The United States had the third highest negative ranking, behind only
Israel and Iran.

“It appears that people around the world tend to look negatively on
countries whose profile is marked by the use or pursuit of military
power,” said Steven Kull, director of the Program on International
Policy Attitudes.

The tragedies of 9/11 are still unresolved.

The loss of innocent life has been compounded exponentially.

Thousands of civilians have been killed in Afghanistan.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and soldiers have been
killed.

Over three thousand U.S. soldiers have died.

In addition to the waste in human lives, the economic costs have been
monumental.

Congressional Budget Office figures show that between 2001 and 2006,
the U.S. spent $503 billion on the “war on terror.”

This figure, of course, does not reflect the devastation of the
economy of Iraq.

As high as the price of the “war on terror” has been, the results are
even more discouraging, according to a study by Peter Bergen and Paul
Cruikshank.

Based on data gathered by the National Memorial Institute for the
Prevention of Terrorism, an organization funded by the U.S. Department
of Homeland Security, the study concludes that since the invasion of
Iraq, the average yearly incidence of fatal terrorist attacks by
jihadist groups around the world has risen 607% with a 237% increase
in the rate of fatalities.

In other words, the decision made by President Bush on Oct. 14, 2001,
has contributed to a seven-fold increase in worldwide terror.

Meanwhile, over five years later, Osama bin Laden remains at large.

______________________________________________________

Dead or alive, eh, Georgie?

Harry

This isn't going to ever hit the "Liberal Media", is it Harry?
.

User: "Scotius"

Title: Re: The day Bush refused Taliban's hand over of Osama Bin Laden 16 Mar 2007 07:13:01 PM
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:07:15 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:


http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/2007/031507a.html

March 15, 2007

Bush's First 'War on Terror' Blunder

By Peter Dyer


Editor's Note: History is often the story of little-noticed
opportunities missed, potential forks in the road not taken, an
arrogant leader plunging ahead toward a catastrophe he is too
headstrong to see.

In this guest article, Peter Dyer recalls one such moment in the early
days of George W. Bush's "war on terror":


There is universal agreement that the events of Sept. 11, 2001 altered
the course of history.

However, the response of the Bush administration to 9/11 eventually
had a far greater impact than the original tragedy.


Seen in that light, Oct. 14, 2001 was an even more momentous day.

That was the day President George W. Bush rejected an offer by the
Taliban to hand over Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the 9/11
terror.

Afghanistan’s deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, had announced
that if the United States stopped bombing Afghanistan and produced
evidence of bin Laden’s involvement in 9/11, "we would be ready to
hand him over to a third country."

Bush responded:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_2001_Oct_22/ai_80338926

"There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty. …
Turn him over.”


Some U.S. officials had doubts about the sincerity of Kabir’s offer as
well as the ability of the Taliban to deliver bin Laden.

But according to Milton Bearden, a former CIA station chief who
oversaw U.S. covert operations in Afghanistan in the 1980s:

“We never heard what they were trying to say. We had no common
language. Ours was, 'Give up bin Laden.' They were saying, 'Do
something to help us give him up.' … I have no doubts they wanted to
get rid of him. He was a pain in the neck.'' [Washington Post, Oct.
29, 2001]

The President’s Oct. 14 decision to continue the bombing closed the
door on any possibility of a peaceful, legal and relatively rapid
resolution of the shocking terror of 9/11.

It essentially cemented a course of American military aggression in
the region which was to lead to the invasion and occupation of
Afghanistan and Iraq and to the threat of invasion of Iran.

If the United States had seriously pursued the Taliban’s offer,
managed to apprehend Osama bin Laden peacefully and arranged a fair
and transparent trial, such as the Madrid bombing trial currently
underway in Spain, al-Qaeda might have been neutralized without firing
a shot.

No war would have meant no Guantanamo, no Military Commissions Act, no
suspension of habeus corpus or debates about torture.

Soon after 9/11, President Bush said: "I see opportunity.”

He was right.

This was an opportunity to provide the world with a splendid
demonstration of American dedication to the rule of law and a world
without war.

U.S. international moral authority, high in the weeks following 9/11,
would have increased.

Instead, the opposite has happened.

In a recent survey by the British Broadcasting Corp.'s World Service
more than 28,000 people in 25 countries were asked to rate 12
countries – Britain, Canada, China, France, India, Iran, Israel,
Japan, North Korea, Russia, the United States and Venezuela – as
having a positive or negative influence on the world.

The United States had the third highest negative ranking, behind only
Israel and Iran.

“It appears that people around the world tend to look negatively on
countries whose profile is marked by the use or pursuit of military
power,” said Steven Kull, director of the Program on International
Policy Attitudes.

The tragedies of 9/11 are still unresolved.

The loss of innocent life has been compounded exponentially.

Thousands of civilians have been killed in Afghanistan.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and soldiers have been
killed.

Over three thousand U.S. soldiers have died.

In addition to the waste in human lives, the economic costs have been
monumental.

Congressional Budget Office figures show that between 2001 and 2006,
the U.S. spent $503 billion on the “war on terror.”

This figure, of course, does not reflect the devastation of the
economy of Iraq.

As high as the price of the “war on terror” has been, the results are
even more discouraging, according to a study by Peter Bergen and Paul
Cruikshank.

Based on data gathered by the National Memorial Institute for the
Prevention of Terrorism, an organization funded by the U.S. Department
of Homeland Security, the study concludes that since the invasion of
Iraq, the average yearly incidence of fatal terrorist attacks by
jihadist groups around the world has risen 607% with a 237% increase
in the rate of fatalities.

In other words, the decision made by President Bush on Oct. 14, 2001,
has contributed to a seven-fold increase in worldwide terror.

Meanwhile, over five years later, Osama bin Laden remains at large.

______________________________________________________

Dead or alive, eh, Georgie?

Harry

I've mentioned this more than once; there was no reason to
invade Afghanistan after the Taliban offered to turn over bin Laden.
You can't say "You must give him up", and then when they do, yell "Too
late" and invade.
The same thing was done in Iraq after Hussein gave in and said
"Okay, I'll leave".
.


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