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The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing |
The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
IN THE 1990's, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college
in Spokane, Wash. In my third year, I started noticing something that
was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my
classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better
grades than the guys.
Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't
take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They
were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here,
listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."
That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an
administrator at Howard University in Washington, D.C. He told me that
what I observed a decade ago has become one of the "biggest agenda
items" at Howard. "We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male
students," he said. "We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men."
Howard is not alone. Colleges and universities across the country are
grappling with the case of the mysteriously vanishing male. Where men
once dominated, they now make up no more than 43 percent of students
at American institutions of higher learning, according to 2003
statistics, and this downward trend shows every sign of continuing
unabated. If we don't reverse it soon, we will gradually diminish the
male identity, and thus the productivity and the mission, of the next
generation of young men, and all the ones that follow.
The trend of females overtaking males in college was initially
measured in 1978. Yet despite the well-documented disappearance of
ever more young men from college campuses, we have yet to fully react
to what has become a crisis. Largely, that is because of cultural
perceptions about males and their societal role. Many times a week, a
reporter or other media person will ask me: "Why should we care so
much about boys when men still run everything?"
It's a fair and logical question, but what it really reflects is that
our culture is still caught up in old industrial images. We still see
thousands of men who succeed quite well in the professional world and
in industry - men who get elected president, who own software
companies, who make six figures selling cars. We see the Bill Gateses
and John Robertses and George Bushes - and so we're not as concerned
as we ought to be about the millions of young men who are floundering
or lost.
But they're there: The young men who are working in the lowest-level
(and most dangerous) jobs instead of going to college. Who are sitting
in prison instead of going to college. Who are staying out of the
long-term marriage pool because they have little to offer to young
women. Who are remaining adolescents, wasting years of their lives
playing video games for hours a day, until they're in their 30s, by
which time the world has passed many of them by.
Of course, not every male has to go to college to succeed, to be a
good husband, to be a good and productive man. But a dismal future
lies ahead for large numbers of boys in this generation who will not
go to college. Statistics show that a young man who doesn't finish
school or go to college in 2005 will likely earn less than half what a
college graduate earns. He'll be three times more likely to be
unemployed and more likely to be homeless. He'll be more likely to get
divorced, more likely to engage in violence against women, and more
likely to engage in crime. He'll be more likely to develop substance
abuse problems and to be a greater burden on the economy,
statistically, since men who don't attend college pay less in Social
Security and other taxes, depend more on government welfare, are more
likely to father children out of wedlock, and are more likely not to
pay child support.
When I worked as a counselor at a federal prison, I saw these
statistics up close. The young men and adult males I worked with were
mainly uneducated, had been raised in families that didn't promote
education, and had found little of relevance in the schools they had
attended. They were passionate people, capable of great love and even
possible future success. Many of them told me how much they wanted to
get an education. At an intuitive level, they knew how important it
was.
Whether in the prison system, in my university classes, or in the
schools where I help train teachers, I have noticed a systemic problem
with how we teach and mentor boys that I call "industrial schooling,"
and that I believe is a primary root of our sons' falling behind in
school, and quite often in life.
Two hundred years ago, realizing the necessity of schooling millions
of kids, we took them off the farms and out of the marketplace and put
them in large industrial-size classrooms (one teacher, 25 to 30 kids).
For many kids, this system worked - and still works. But from the
beginning, there were some for whom it wasn't working very well.
Initially, it was girls. It took more than 150 years to get parity for
them.
Now we're seeing what's wrong with the system for millions of boys.
Beginning in very early grades, the sit-still, read-your-book,
raise-your-hand-quietly, don't-learn-by-doing-but-by-taking-notes
classroom is a worse fit for more boys than it is for most girls. This
was always the case, but we couldn't see it 100 years ago. We didn't
have the comparative element of girls at par in classrooms. We taught
a lot of our boys and girls separately. We educated children with
greater emphasis on certain basic educational principles that kept a
lot of boys "in line" - competitive learning was one. And our families
were deeply involved in a child's education.
Now, however, the boys who don't fit the classrooms are glaringly
clear. Many families are barely involved in their children's
education. Girls outperform boys in nearly every academic area. Many
of the old principles of education are diminished. In a classroom of
30 kids, about five boys will begin to fail in the first few years of
preschool and elementary school. By fifth grade, they will be
diagnosed as learning disabled, ADD/ADHD, behaviorally disordered, or
"unmotivated." They will no longer do their homework (though they may
say they are doing it), they will disrupt class or withdraw from it,
they will find a few islands of competence (like video games or
computers), and overemphasize those.
Boys have a lot of Huck Finn in them - they don't, on average, learn
as well as girls by sitting still, concentrating, multitasking,
listening to words. For 20 years, I have been taking brain research
into homes and classrooms to show teachers, parents, and others how
differently boys and girls learn. Once a person sees a PET or SPECT
scan of a boy's brain and a girl's brain, showing the different ways
these brains learn, they understand. As one teacher put it to me,
"Wow, no wonder we're having so many problems with boys."
Yet every decade the industrial classroom becomes more and more
protective of the female learning style and harsher on the male,
yielding statistics such as these:
The majority of National Merit scholarships, as well as college
academic scholarships, go to girls and young women.
Boys and men constitute the majority of high school dropouts, as high
as 80 percent in many cities.
Boys and young men are 1½ years behind girls and young women in
reading ability (this gap does not even out in high school, as some
have argued; a male reading/writing gap continues into college and the
workplace).
Grasping the mismatch between the minds of boys and the industrial
classroom is only the first step in understanding the needs of our
sons. Lack of fathering and male role models take a heavy toll on
boys, as does lack of attachment to many family members (whether
grandparents, extended families, moms, or dads). Our sons are becoming
very lonely. And even more politically difficult to deal with: The
boys-are-privileged-but-the-girls-are-shortchanged emphasis of the
last 20 years (an emphasis that I, as a father of two daughters and an
advocate of girls, have seen firsthand), has muddied the water for
child development in general, pitting funding for girls against
funding for boys.
We still barely see the burdens our sons are carrying as we change
from an industrial culture to a postindustrial one. We want them to
shut up, calm down, and become perfect intimate partners. It doesn't
matter too much who boys and men are - what matters is who we think
they should be. When I think back to the kind of classroom I created
for my college students, I feel regret for the males who dropped out.
When I think back to my time working in the prison system, I feel a
deep sadness for the present and future generations of boys whom we
still have time to save.
And I do think we can save them. I get hundreds of e-mails and letters
every week, from parents, teachers, and others who are beginning to
realize that we must do for our sons what we did for our daughters in
the industrialized schooling system - realize that boys are struggling
and need help. These teachers and parents are part of a social
movement - a boys' movement that started, I think, about 10 years ago.
It's a movement very much powered by individual women — mainly mothers
of sons — who say things to me like the e-mailers who wrote, "I don't
know anyone who doesn't have a son struggling in school," or, "I
thought having a boy would be like having a girl, but when my son was
born, I had to rethink things."
We all need to rethink things. We need to stop blaming, suspecting,
and overly medicating our boys, as if we can change this guy into the
learner we want. When we decide - as we did with our daughters - that
there isn't anything inherently wrong with our sons, when we look
closely at the system that boys learn in, we will discover these boys
again, for all that they are. And maybe we'll see more of them in
college again.
We must do for our sons what we did for our daughters in the
industrialized schooling system - realize that boys are struggling and
need help.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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01 Jan 2006 10:24:49 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
Where was all this hand-wringing over gender imbalance in college
enrollments back when men outnumbered women on college campuses by ratios of
2,3,4 to 1?
The author of this article says women go to college more than do men because
of the way we treat little boys in primary and secondary school -- sit down,
be quiet, raise your hand. HOWEVER -- way back when, back when women were
not even encouraged to graduate from high school, the environment in schools
was even more strict -- and men made up the vast majority of college
students.
Could it be that the reason more women than men are enrolling in college
today is that women now realize that there is more to their lives than a
basic three-R education after which they are supposed to marry, raise
children, and have supper on the table?
But -- I return to my original point: When the college campus was dominated
by men, no one gave a *****. What's the problem now that women are dominant?
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01 Jan 2006 01:55:53 PM |
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:24:49 -0500, "Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
Where was all this hand-wringing over gender imbalance in college
enrollments back when men outnumbered women on college campuses by ratios of
2,3,4 to 1?
The author of this article says women go to college more than do men because
of the way we treat little boys in primary and secondary school -- sit down,
be quiet, raise your hand. HOWEVER -- way back when, back when women were
not even encouraged to graduate from high school, the environment in schools
was even more strict -- and men made up the vast majority of college
students.
Could it be that the reason more women than men are enrolling in college
today is that women now realize that there is more to their lives than a
basic three-R education after which they are supposed to marry, raise
children, and have supper on the table?
But -- I return to my original point: When the college campus was dominated
by men, no one gave a *****. What's the problem now that women are dominant?
But we now live in more enlightened times.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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01 Jan 2006 03:58:58 PM |
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But we now live in more enlightened times.
ROFLOL! Thanks for the laugh.
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01 Jan 2006 02:47:05 PM |
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They noticed this problem in Britain and the manner in which they are
trying to solve it is to get more male teachers in primary schools.
They felt the problem was that to very young boys, reading seemed to be
a female activity given that mother helped with the homework and
teacher was female also.
The reason cited to solve the problem was very interesting. The
Government feared that if in 20 years time, men were far less educated
than women, it would be the womem in most of the high earning jobs and
in a service and high skilled economy, this would mean a lot of
unemployable men. The consequences of this would likely be a much
higher crime rate, and as such the peoblem had best be solved now.
John
http://www.lifehandle.com
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01 Jan 2006 09:10:54 AM |
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Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in
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The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
IN THE 1990's, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college
in Spokane, Wash. In my third year, I started noticing something that
was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my
classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better
grades than the guys.
Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't
take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They
were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here,
listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."
That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an
administrator at Howard University in Washington, D.C. He told me that
what I observed a decade ago has become one of the "biggest agenda
items" at Howard. "We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male
students," he said. "We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men."
And yet women still enjoy "minority" status
on campus, complete with the all the protections
that implies.
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01 Jan 2006 01:53:43 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 09:10:54 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in
news:okuer1dqsevgrbhdg809om6c9hp9a0tvgk@4ax.com:
The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
IN THE 1990's, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college
in Spokane, Wash. In my third year, I started noticing something that
was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my
classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better
grades than the guys.
Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't
take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They
were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here,
listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."
That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an
administrator at Howard University in Washington, D.C. He told me that
what I observed a decade ago has become one of the "biggest agenda
items" at Howard. "We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male
students," he said. "We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men."
And yet women still enjoy "minority" status
on campus, complete with the all the protections
that implies.
Just so.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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Captain Compassion wrote:
The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
IN THE 1990's, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college
in Spokane, Wash. In my third year, I started noticing something that
was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my
classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better
grades than the guys.
Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't
take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They
were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here,
listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."
That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an
administrator at Howard University in Washington, D.C. He told me that
what I observed a decade ago has become one of the "biggest agenda
items" at Howard. "We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male
students," he said. "We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men."
Howard is not alone. Colleges and universities across the country are
grappling with the case of the mysteriously vanishing male. Where men
once dominated, they now make up no more than 43 percent of students
at American institutions of higher learning, according to 2003
statistics, and this downward trend shows every sign of continuing
unabated. If we don't reverse it soon, we will gradually diminish the
male identity, and thus the productivity and the mission, of the next
generation of young men, and all the ones that follow.
The trend of females overtaking males in college was initially
measured in 1978. Yet despite the well-documented disappearance of
ever more young men from college campuses, we have yet to fully react
to what has become a crisis. Largely, that is because of cultural
perceptions about males and their societal role. Many times a week, a
reporter or other media person will ask me: "Why should we care so
much about boys when men still run everything?"
It's a fair and logical question, but what it really reflects is that
our culture is still caught up in old industrial images. We still see
thousands of men who succeed quite well in the professional world and
in industry - men who get elected president, who own software
companies, who make six figures selling cars. We see the Bill Gateses
and John Robertses and George Bushes - and so we're not as concerned
as we ought to be about the millions of young men who are floundering
or lost.
But they're there: The young men who are working in the lowest-level
(and most dangerous) jobs instead of going to college. Who are sitting
in prison instead of going to college. Who are staying out of the
long-term marriage pool because they have little to offer to young
women. Who are remaining adolescents, wasting years of their lives
playing video games for hours a day, until they're in their 30s, by
which time the world has passed many of them by.
Of course, not every male has to go to college to succeed, to be a
good husband, to be a good and productive man. But a dismal future
lies ahead for large numbers of boys in this generation who will not
go to college. Statistics show that a young man who doesn't finish
school or go to college in 2005 will likely earn less than half what a
college graduate earns. He'll be three times more likely to be
unemployed and more likely to be homeless. He'll be more likely to get
divorced, more likely to engage in violence against women, and more
likely to engage in crime.
Well that's the main reason many are quitting college.
It's pointless in the US. They only degrees they give
anymore are slum lord broker for Bank Of Amerca,
in a place like Washington.
The degrees are useless since there are not transferrable.
and the extra income is a delusion, since extra
tax expenses quickly swallow up the extra income
in the inner cities.
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01 Jan 2006 04:47:14 AM |
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I don't see what's new about that. Back in the 60s and 70s when I was
in school girls generally did better than boys then too.
I don't pretend to be an expert on education, but one of the major
reasons I noticed for male underachievement was a peer group ethos
very much against doing well in school. It was the height of uncool to
make a genuine effort, to do anything more than get by. That was not
true of girls, who helped and encouraged each other, and didn't shy
away from raising their hand.
I must have gone to 8 different schools in my childhood (Air Force
Brat) and I saw the same at each.
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01 Jan 2006 01:53:06 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:47:14 +0000, SteveL
<stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
I don't see what's new about that. Back in the 60s and 70s when I was
in school girls generally did better than boys then too.
I don't pretend to be an expert on education, but one of the major
reasons I noticed for male underachievement was a peer group ethos
very much against doing well in school. It was the height of uncool to
make a genuine effort, to do anything more than get by. That was not
true of girls, who helped and encouraged each other, and didn't shy
away from raising their hand.
I must have gone to 8 different schools in my childhood (Air Force
Brat) and I saw the same at each.
The problem is not under achievement by male students but the fact
that mails aren't even registering.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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05 Jan 2006 07:13:17 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:47:41 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
IN THE 1990's, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college
in Spokane, Wash. In my third year, I started noticing something that
was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my
classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better
grades than the guys.
It's not the fault of the young women if they're getting
better grades than the young men, is it? Of course not. If this were
due to some kind of favoritism, that would be one thing, and that's
the allegation that I assumed you were going to make when I read the
header. I wouldn't necessarily agree. I'm over here in "liberal
Canada", and where someone from the US posting this letter would
probably expect to see such favoritism, I have seen none. Like I said,
if the young men want better grades over there, they'll have to work
for them, but the ladies aren't the ones you need to lay the blame on
here, and I hope that's not what you're about to do. Your posts are
normally some of the best on this group :)
Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't
take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They
were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here,
listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."
That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an
administrator at Howard University in Washington, D.C. He told me that
what I observed a decade ago has become one of the "biggest agenda
items" at Howard. "We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male
students," he said. "We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men."
That doesn't sound nearly as bad as he seems to think it
sounds... :)
Howard is not alone. Colleges and universities across the country are
grappling with the case of the mysteriously vanishing male. Where men
once dominated, they now make up no more than 43 percent of students
at American institutions of higher learning, according to 2003
statistics, and this downward trend shows every sign of continuing
unabated. If we don't reverse it soon, we will gradually diminish the
male identity, and thus the productivity and the mission, of the next
generation of young men, and all the ones that follow.
That could be a problem, and they should definately be
encouraged to enroll and succeed, but let's not go blaming the women
because it's not happening.
The trend of females overtaking males in college was initially
measured in 1978. Yet despite the well-documented disappearance of
ever more young men from college campuses, we have yet to fully react
to what has become a crisis. Largely, that is because of cultural
perceptions about males and their societal role. Many times a week, a
reporter or other media person will ask me: "Why should we care so
much about boys when men still run everything?"
It's a fair and logical question, but what it really reflects is that
our culture is still caught up in old industrial images. We still see
thousands of men who succeed quite well in the professional world and
in industry - men who get elected president, who own software
companies, who make six figures selling cars. We see the Bill Gateses
and John Robertses and George Bushes - and so we're not as concerned
as we ought to be about the millions of young men who are floundering
or lost.
But they're there: The young men who are working in the lowest-level
(and most dangerous) jobs instead of going to college. Who are sitting
in prison instead of going to college. Who are staying out of the
long-term marriage pool because they have little to offer to young
women. Who are remaining adolescents, wasting years of their lives
playing video games for hours a day, until they're in their 30s, by
which time the world has passed many of them by.
Of course, not every male has to go to college to succeed, to be a
good husband, to be a good and productive man. But a dismal future
lies ahead for large numbers of boys in this generation who will not
go to college. Statistics show that a young man who doesn't finish
school or go to college in 2005 will likely earn less than half what a
college graduate earns. He'll be three times more likely to be
unemployed and more likely to be homeless. He'll be more likely to get
divorced, more likely to engage in violence against women, and more
likely to engage in crime. He'll be more likely to develop substance
abuse problems and to be a greater burden on the economy,
statistically, since men who don't attend college pay less in Social
Security and other taxes, depend more on government welfare, are more
likely to father children out of wedlock, and are more likely not to
pay child support.
When I worked as a counselor at a federal prison, I saw these
statistics up close. The young men and adult males I worked with were
mainly uneducated, had been raised in families that didn't promote
education, and had found little of relevance in the schools they had
attended. They were passionate people, capable of great love and even
possible future success. Many of them told me how much they wanted to
get an education. At an intuitive level, they knew how important it
was.
Whether in the prison system, in my university classes, or in the
schools where I help train teachers, I have noticed a systemic problem
with how we teach and mentor boys that I call "industrial schooling,"
and that I believe is a primary root of our sons' falling behind in
school, and quite often in life.
Two hundred years ago, realizing the necessity of schooling millions
of kids, we took them off the farms and out of the marketplace and put
them in large industrial-size classrooms (one teacher, 25 to 30 kids).
For many kids, this system worked - and still works. But from the
beginning, there were some for whom it wasn't working very well.
Initially, it was girls. It took more than 150 years to get parity for
them.
Now we're seeing what's wrong with the system for millions of boys.
Beginning in very early grades, the sit-still, read-your-book,
raise-your-hand-quietly, don't-learn-by-doing-but-by-taking-notes
classroom is a worse fit for more boys than it is for most girls. This
was always the case, but we couldn't see it 100 years ago. We didn't
have the comparative element of girls at par in classrooms. We taught
a lot of our boys and girls separately. We educated children with
greater emphasis on certain basic educational principles that kept a
lot of boys "in line" - competitive learning was one. And our families
were deeply involved in a child's education.
Now, however, the boys who don't fit the classrooms are glaringly
clear. Many families are barely involved in their children's
education. Girls outperform boys in nearly every academic area. Many
of the old principles of education are diminished. In a classroom of
30 kids, about five boys will begin to fail in the first few years of
preschool and elementary school. By fifth grade, they will be
diagnosed as learning disabled, ADD/ADHD, behaviorally disordered, or
"unmotivated." They will no longer do their homework (though they may
say they are doing it), they will disrupt class or withdraw from it,
they will find a few islands of competence (like video games or
computers), and overemphasize those.
Boys have a lot of Huck Finn in them - they don't, on average, learn
as well as girls by sitting still, concentrating, multitasking,
listening to words. For 20 years, I have been taking brain research
into homes and classrooms to show teachers, parents, and others how
differently boys and girls learn. Once a person sees a PET or SPECT
scan of a boy's brain and a girl's brain, showing the different ways
these brains learn, they understand. As one teacher put it to me,
"Wow, no wonder we're having so many problems with boys."
I think probably both boys and girls would benefit from a more
hands on approach to learning, by being shown the practical benefits
of learning higher mathematics, etc, for those who may want later to
go into fields where those will be of use, but what are we going to do
now? If girls were left out of the loop for 150 years, we can't just
say that because the classroom has become more adjusted to them over
only the last 30 or so (!) that it's a case of "Gee, too bad, but we
have to do more for these boys and it's gonna come out of what type of
learning benefits you".
Yet every decade the industrial classroom becomes more and more
protective of the female learning style and harsher on the male,
yielding statistics such as these:
The majority of National Merit scholarships, as well as college
academic scholarships, go to girls and young women.
Boys and men constitute the majority of high school dropouts, as high
as 80 percent in many cities.
Boys and young men are 1½ years behind girls and young women in
reading ability (this gap does not even out in high school, as some
have argued; a male reading/writing gap continues into college and the
workplace).
Grasping the mismatch between the minds of boys and the industrial
classroom is only the first step in understanding the needs of our
sons. Lack of fathering and male role models take a heavy toll on
boys, as does lack of attachment to many family members (whether
grandparents, extended families, moms, or dads). Our sons are becoming
very lonely. And even more politically difficult to deal with: The
boys-are-privileged-but-the-girls-are-shortchanged emphasis of the
last 20 years (an emphasis that I, as a father of two daughters and an
advocate of girls, have seen firsthand), has muddied the water for
child development in general, pitting funding for girls against
funding for boys.
I don't think that has to be the case, but I will say I don't
want to see classrooms go unevenly back to male oriented learning at
the expense of females, and I'm sure you don't either. The writer of
this article seems almost on the verge of wanting that, but I'll give
him a chance.
We still barely see the burdens our sons are carrying as we change
from an industrial culture to a postindustrial one. We want them to
shut up, calm down, and become perfect intimate partners. It doesn't
matter too much who boys and men are - what matters is who we think
they should be. When I think back to the kind of classroom I created
for my college students, I feel regret for the males who dropped out.
When I think back to my time working in the prison system, I feel a
deep sadness for the present and future generations of boys whom we
still have time to save.
And I do think we can save them. I get hundreds of e-mails and letters
every week, from parents, teachers, and others who are beginning to
realize that we must do for our sons what we did for our daughters in
the industrialized schooling system - realize that boys are struggling
and need help. These teachers and parents are part of a social
movement - a boys' movement that started, I think, about 10 years ago.
It's a movement very much powered by individual women — mainly mothers
of sons — who say things to me like the e-mailers who wrote, "I don't
know anyone who doesn't have a son struggling in school," or, "I
thought having a boy would be like having a girl, but when my son was
born, I had to rethink things."
To say that woman was naive would be like saying the Iranian
mullahs are a bit off.
We all need to rethink things. We need to stop blaming, suspecting,
and overly medicating our boys, as if we can change this guy into the
learner we want. When we decide - as we did with our daughters - that
there isn't anything inherently wrong with our sons, when we look
closely at the system that boys learn in, we will discover these boys
again, for all that they are. And maybe we'll see more of them in
college again.
We must do for our sons what we did for our daughters in the
industrialized schooling system - realize that boys are struggling and
need help.
That's great, as long as enhancing the classroom for them
doesn't happen at the expense of the girls there.
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05 Jan 2006 05:17:23 AM |
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college professors like to masterbate while grading the tests of hot
college girls, so yeah, of course they get good grades. alot more
girls are willing to ***** their teachers nowdays, and they know how to
use their slutty sexuality to get what they want no matter what the
cost to society.
They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology.
Guys have just figured out, there's nothing they're gonna really learn
in college anymore that will help them make money, there's so many jobs
now that you don't need college for, what's the point of spending all
that money on college just to be around a bunch of gorgeous whores who
***** ***** athletes when they're not in class.
These women will all get out and get ***** jobs, all those jobs they
can hire people in India to do for 1/10 the cost.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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05 Jan 2006 08:23:28 AM |
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Not to worrry.
As soon as the islamification of America is completed, them womens won't be
taking up no more seats in them colleges.
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| User: "OKSure" |
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01 Jan 2006 06:47:57 PM |
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This should not be any surprise to anyone. The Looney Left has been doing
all it can to castrate the males in our society that there are simply (Thank
GOD) no more young liberal males!!
Any young man who is serious about becoming a REAL man is going to some REAL
college/university such as Bob Jones, Hyles-Anderson, etc.
If you are not afraid to do so, contact any of those real schools which
teach real subjects and check it out.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:okuer1dqsevgrbhdg809om6c9hp9a0tvgk@4ax.com...
The disappearing male, In College Classrooms, Men are Missing
NorthJersey.com ^ | 12.11.05 | MICHAEL GURIAN
IN THE 1990's, I taught for six years at a small liberal arts college
in Spokane, Wash. In my third year, I started noticing something that
was happening right in front of me. There were more young women in my
classes than young men, and on average, they were getting better
grades than the guys.
Many of the young men stared blankly at me as I lectured. They didn't
take notes as well as the young women. They didn't seem to care as
much about what I taught - literature, writing and psychology. They
were bright kids, but many of their faces said, "Sitting here,
listening, staring at these words - this is not really who I am."
That was a decade ago, but just last month, I spoke with an
administrator at Howard University in Washington, D.C. He told me that
what I observed a decade ago has become one of the "biggest agenda
items" at Howard. "We are having trouble recruiting and retaining male
students," he said. "We are at about a 2-to-1 ratio, women to men."
Howard is not alone. Colleges and universities across the country are
grappling with the case of the mysteriously vanishing male. Where men
once dominated, they now make up no more than 43 percent of students
at American institutions of higher learning, according to 2003
statistics, and this downward trend shows every sign of continuing
unabated. If we don't reverse it soon, we will gradually diminish the
male identity, and thus the productivity and the mission, of the next
generation of young men, and all the ones that follow.
The trend of females overtaking males in college was initially
measured in 1978. Yet despite the well-documented disappearance of
ever more young men from college campuses, we have yet to fully react
to what has become a crisis. Largely, that is because of cultural
perceptions about males and their societal role. Many times a week, a
reporter or other media person will ask me: "Why should we care so
much about boys when men still run everything?"
It's a fair and logical question, but what it really reflects is that
our culture is still caught up in old industrial images. We still see
thousands of men who succeed quite well in the professional world and
in industry - men who get elected president, who own software
companies, who make six figures selling cars. We see the Bill Gateses
and John Robertses and George Bushes - and so we're not as concerned
as we ought to be about the millions of young men who are floundering
or lost.
But they're there: The young men who are working in the lowest-level
(and most dangerous) jobs instead of going to college. Who are sitting
in prison instead of going to college. Who are staying out of the
long-term marriage pool because they have little to offer to young
women. Who are remaining adolescents, wasting years of their lives
playing video games for hours a day, until they're in their 30s, by
which time the world has passed many of them by.
Of course, not every male has to go to college to succeed, to be a
good husband, to be a good and productive man. But a dismal future
lies ahead for large numbers of boys in this generation who will not
go to college. Statistics show that a young man who doesn't finish
school or go to college in 2005 will likely earn less than half what a
college graduate earns. He'll be three times more likely to be
unemployed and more likely to be homeless. He'll be more likely to get
divorced, more likely to engage in violence against women, and more
likely to engage in crime. He'll be more likely to develop substance
abuse problems and to be a greater burden on the economy,
statistically, since men who don't attend college pay less in Social
Security and other taxes, depend more on government welfare, are more
likely to father children out of wedlock, and are more likely not to
pay child support.
When I worked as a counselor at a federal prison, I saw these
statistics up close. The young men and adult males I worked with were
mainly uneducated, had been raised in families that didn't promote
education, and had found little of relevance in the schools they had
attended. They were passionate people, capable of great love and even
possible future success. Many of them told me how much they wanted to
get an education. At an intuitive level, they knew how important it
was.
Whether in the prison system, in my university classes, or in the
schools where I help train teachers, I have noticed a systemic problem
with how we teach and mentor boys that I call "industrial schooling,"
and that I believe is a primary root of our sons' falling behind in
school, and quite often in life.
Two hundred years ago, realizing the necessity of schooling millions
of kids, we took them off the farms and out of the marketplace and put
them in large industrial-size classrooms (one teacher, 25 to 30 kids).
For many kids, this system worked - and still works. But from the
beginning, there were some for whom it wasn't working very well.
Initially, it was girls. It took more than 150 years to get parity for
them.
Now we're seeing what's wrong with the system for millions of boys.
Beginning in very early grades, the sit-still, read-your-book,
raise-your-hand-quietly, don't-learn-by-doing-but-by-taking-notes
classroom is a worse fit for more boys than it is for most girls. This
was always the case, but we couldn't see it 100 years ago. We didn't
have the comparative element of girls at par in classrooms. We taught
a lot of our boys and girls separately. We educated children with
greater emphasis on certain basic educational principles that kept a
lot of boys "in line" - competitive learning was one. And our families
were deeply involved in a child's education.
Now, however, the boys who don't fit the classrooms are glaringly
clear. Many families are barely involved in their children's
education. Girls outperform boys in nearly every academic area. Many
of the old principles of education are diminished. In a classroom of
30 kids, about five boys will begin to fail in the first few years of
preschool and elementary school. By fifth grade, they will be
diagnosed as learning disabled, ADD/ADHD, behaviorally disordered, or
"unmotivated." They will no longer do their homework (though they may
say they are doing it), they will disrupt class or withdraw from it,
they will find a few islands of competence (like video games or
computers), and overemphasize those.
Boys have a lot of Huck Finn in them - they don't, on average, learn
as well as girls by sitting still, concentrating, multitasking,
listening to words. For 20 years, I have been taking brain research
into homes and classrooms to show teachers, parents, and others how
differently boys and girls learn. Once a person sees a PET or SPECT
scan of a boy's brain and a girl's brain, showing the different ways
these brains learn, they understand. As one teacher put it to me,
"Wow, no wonder we're having so many problems with boys."
Yet every decade the industrial classroom becomes more and more
protective of the female learning style and harsher on the male,
yielding statistics such as these:
The majority of National Merit scholarships, as well as college
academic scholarships, go to girls and young women.
Boys and men constitute the majority of high school dropouts, as high
as 80 percent in many cities.
Boys and young men are 1½ years behind girls and young women in
reading ability (this gap does not even out in high school, as some
have argued; a male reading/writing gap continues into college and the
workplace).
Grasping the mismatch between the minds of boys and the industrial
classroom is only the first step in understanding the needs of our
sons. Lack of fathering and male role models take a heavy toll on
boys, as does lack of attachment to many family members (whether
grandparents, extended families, moms, or dads). Our sons are becoming
very lonely. And even more politically difficult to deal with: The
boys-are-privileged-but-the-girls-are-shortchanged emphasis of the
last 20 years (an emphasis that I, as a father of two daughters and an
advocate of girls, have seen firsthand), has muddied the water for
child development in general, pitting funding for girls against
funding for boys.
We still barely see the burdens our sons are carrying as we change
from an industrial culture to a postindustrial one. We want them to
shut up, calm down, and become perfect intimate partners. It doesn't
matter too much who boys and men are - what matters is who we think
they should be. When I think back to the kind of classroom I created
for my college students, I feel regret for the males who dropped out.
When I think back to my time working in the prison system, I feel a
deep sadness for the present and future generations of boys whom we
still have time to save.
And I do think we can save them. I get hundreds of e-mails and letters
every week, from parents, teachers, and others who are beginning to
realize that we must do for our sons what we did for our daughters in
the industrialized schooling system - realize that boys are struggling
and need help. These teachers and parents are part of a social
movement - a boys' movement that started, I think, about 10 years ago.
It's a movement very much powered by individual women - mainly mothers
of sons - who say things to me like the e-mailers who wrote, "I don't
know anyone who doesn't have a son struggling in school," or, "I
thought having a boy would be like having a girl, but when my son was
born, I had to rethink things."
We all need to rethink things. We need to stop blaming, suspecting,
and overly medicating our boys, as if we can change this guy into the
learner we want. When we decide - as we did with our daughters - that
there isn't anything inherently wrong with our sons, when we look
closely at the system that boys learn in, we will discover these boys
again, for all that they are. And maybe we'll see more of them in
college again.
We must do for our sons what we did for our daughters in the
industrialized schooling system - realize that boys are struggling and
need help.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Steve" |
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03 Jan 2006 02:57:42 PM |
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OKSure wrote:
This should not be any surprise to anyone. The Looney Left has been doing
all it can to castrate the males in our society that there are simply (Thank
GOD) no more young liberal males!!
Any young man who is serious about becoming a REAL man is going to some REAL
college/university such as Bob Jones, Hyles-Anderson, etc.
If you are not afraid to do so, contact any of those real schools which
teach real subjects and check it out.
FYI, Bob Jones University undergrad enrollment in 2004 was 54% women
and 46% men.
Steve
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| User: "OKSure" |
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05 Jan 2006 08:46:24 PM |
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But for 2005 it was almost 60-40 male
"Steve" <anIndependent@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1136321862.560254.227420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
OKSure wrote:
This should not be any surprise to anyone. The Looney Left has been
doing
all it can to castrate the males in our society that there are simply
(Thank
GOD) no more young liberal males!!
Any young man who is serious about becoming a REAL man is going to some
REAL
college/university such as Bob Jones, Hyles-Anderson, etc.
If you are not afraid to do so, contact any of those real schools which
teach real subjects and check it out.
FYI, Bob Jones University undergrad enrollment in 2004 was 54% women
and 46% men.
Steve
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