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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"Black Elk" |
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19 Jun 2005 09:18:32 AM |
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The fascist troll: Liberals Are The AntiChrist, etc, etc, etc,,,, |
appears to be none other than the neo-fascist's Jose Soplar.
Basilod was rebutting him when something rang a bell and I checked its X
trace posting and found what appears to be the same IP address for both
posters.:
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From: Liberals Are The AntiChrist
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119057486 16736 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005 01:18:06
GMT)
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From: jose
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119138229 12656 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005 23:43:49
GMT)
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Fascism Anyone?
Laurence W. Britt
-snip-
For the purpose of this perspective, I will consider the following regimes:
Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Franco's Spain, Salazar's Portugal,
Papadopoulos's Greece, Pinochet's Chile, and Suharto's Indonesia. To be
sure, they constitute a mixed bag of national identities, cultures,
developmental levels, and history. But they all followed the fascist or
protofascist model in obtaining, expanding, and maintaining power. Further,
all these regimes have been overthrown, so a more or less complete picture
of their basic characteristics and abuses is possible.
Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that link
them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of power. These
basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in some regimes than in
others, but they all share at least some level of similarity.
-snip-
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most
significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as
a means to divert the people's attention from other problems, to shift blame
for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The
methods of choice-relentless propaganda and disinformation-were usually
effective. Often the regimes would incite "spontaneous" acts against the
target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic
and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other
religions, secularists, homosexuals, and "terrorists." Active opponents of
these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with
accordingly.
-cont.-
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: The fascist troll: Liberals Are The AntiChrist, etc, etc, etc,,,, |
19 Jun 2005 01:13:18 PM |
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"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119190710.2c5763c30a93eb8822699fe843a886f8@teranews...
appears to be none other than the neo-fascist's Jose Soplar.
Basilod was rebutting him when something rang a bell and I checked its X
trace posting and found what appears to be the same IP address for both
posters.:
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From: Liberals Are The AntiChrist
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119057486 16736 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005
01:18:06
GMT)
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From: jose
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119138229 12656 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005
23:43:49
GMT)
I hope it is not the 127 address that is making you think they are one and
the same. 127 is reserved for loopback, and every machine has that address.
Posting via google is almost impossible to trace to the user in question
without getting google to check their logs if they will.
Google has the original mindset of usenet, and will not prohibit free
speech.
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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| Title: Re: The fascist troll: Liberals Are The AntiChrist, etc, etc, etc,,,, |
23 Jun 2005 05:43:47 PM |
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"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
news:11bbda9sb9i9u36@corp.supernews.com...
"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119190710.2c5763c30a93eb8822699fe843a886f8@teranews...
appears to be none other than the neo-fascist's Jose Soplar.
Basilod was rebutting him when something rang a bell and I checked its X
trace posting and found what appears to be the same IP address for both
posters.:
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From: Liberals Are The AntiChrist
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119057486 16736 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005
01:18:06
GMT)
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From: jose
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119138229 12656 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005
23:43:49
GMT)
I hope it is not the 127 address that is making you think they are one and
the same. 127 is reserved for loopback, and every machine has that
address.
Posting via google is almost impossible to trace to the user in question
without getting google to check their logs if they will.
Google has the original mindset of usenet, and will not prohibit free
speech.
It's not free speech, it's hatemongering and spamming. Something you
fascists have a hard time understanding.
Jose, knows I've have him by the balls or whatever he has.
--
fascism: a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme
right, TYPICALLY THROUGH THE MERGING OF STATE AND BUSINESS LEADERSHIP,
together with a belligerent nationalism.
The American Heritage Dictionary
copyright 1973
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| User: "chrisT" |
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| Title: Re: The fascist troll: Liberals Are The AntiChrist, etc, etc, etc,,,, |
24 Jun 2005 12:17:00 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:43:47 -0600, "Black Elk"
<windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Dana" <whoya@whoya.com> wrote in message
news:11bbda9sb9i9u36@corp.supernews.com...
"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119190710.2c5763c30a93eb8822699fe843a886f8@teranews...
appears to be none other than the neo-fascist's Jose Soplar.
Basilod was rebutting him when something rang a bell and I checked its X
trace posting and found what appears to be the same IP address for both
posters.:
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From: Liberals Are The AntiChrist
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119057486 16736 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005
01:18:06
GMT)
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From: jose
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1119138229 12656 127.0.0.1 (18 Jun 2005
23:43:49
GMT)
I hope it is not the 127 address that is making you think they are one and
the same. 127 is reserved for loopback, and every machine has that
address.
Posting via google is almost impossible to trace to the user in question
without getting google to check their logs if they will.
Google has the original mindset of usenet, and will not prohibit free
speech.
It's not free speech, it's hatemongering and spamming. Something you
fascists have a hard time understanding.
Jose, knows I've have him by the balls or whatever he has.
JESUS was a liberal Jew !!!
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| User: "Tea-NN-Tea" |
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| Title: Another Buttboy Black Elk Kook Fascist Post!!! |
19 Jun 2005 11:44:42 AM |
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Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
LOL
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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| Title: This poster exhibits fascist trait #3.| Re: Another Buttboy Black Elk Kook Fascist Post!!! |
19 Jun 2005 12:17:19 PM |
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This poster is a classic example of fascist demonizing, libel and
name-calling. It cuts the original post and then does what fascist trolls
often do, it posts name-calling, malevolent innuendo and libel while failing
to rebut or respond to the original post. Some might think fascism a joke, a
historical fluke that even though responsible for millions of deaths and too
much suffering to document, is still an anomaly of the past . But as the
author of the article clearly puts forth, fascism has once again resurfaced
with increasing brazenness but always under the camouflage of patriotism,
religiosity, morality or any number of disguises.
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Fascism Anyone?
Laurence W. Britt
The following article is from Free Inquiry magazine, Volume 23, Number 2.
Free Inquiry readers may pause to read the “Affirmations of Humanism: A
Statement of Principles” on the inside cover of the magazine. To a secular
humanist, these principles seem so logical, so right, so crucial. Yet, there
is one archetypal political philosophy that is anathema to almost all of
these principles. It is fascism. And fascism’s principles are wafting in the
air today, surreptitiously masquerading as something else, challenging
everything we stand for. The cliché that people and nations learn from
history is not only overused, but also overestimated; often we fail to learn
from history, or draw the wrong conclusions. Sadly, historical amnesia is
the norm.
We are two-and-a-half generations removed from the horrors of Nazi Germany,
although constant reminders jog the consciousness. German and Italian
fascism form the historical models that define this twisted political
worldview. Although they no longer exist, this worldview and the
characteristics of these models have been imitated by protofascist1 regimes
at various times in the twentieth century. Both the original German and
Italian models and the later protofascist regimes show remarkably similar
characteristics. Although many scholars question any direct connection among
these regimes, few can dispute their visual similarities.
Beyond the visual, even a cursory study of these fascist and protofascist
regimes reveals the absolutely striking convergence of their modus operandi.
This, of course, is not a revelation to the informed political observer, but
it is sometimes useful in the interests of perspective to restate obvious
facts and in so doing shed needed light on current circumstances.
For the purpose of this perspective, I will consider the following regimes:
Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Franco’s Spain, Salazar’s Portugal,
Papadopoulos’s Greece, Pinochet’s Chile, and Suharto’s Indonesia. To be
sure, they constitute a mixed bag of national identities, cultures,
developmental levels, and history. But they all followed the fascist or
protofascist model in obtaining, expanding, and maintaining power. Further,
all these regimes have been overthrown, so a more or less complete picture
of their basic characteristics and abuses is possible.
Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that link
them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of power. These
basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in some regimes than in
others, but they all share at least some level of similarity.
-snip-
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most
significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as
a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame
for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The
methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually
effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the
target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic
and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other
religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of
these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with
accordingly.
-snip-
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm
--
Many Americans may not be aware of this wide spread recruitment of SS and
Gestapo alumni into our intelligence agencies but it has had a profound
effect on the shaping of our domestic and foreign policy, often with ruinous
consequences. The legacy of this incorporation of Nazis into the CIA and
U.S. military has been a half a century of support for fascist regimes,
juntas, death squads, torture and the overthrow of democratically elected
governments around the world.
http://archive.democrats.com/view2.cfm?id=9099
--
"What good fortune for those in power that people do not think!"
- Adolf Hitler, as quoted by Joachim Fest.
"Tea-NN-Tea" <Wracket@Gov.net> wrote in message
news:_hhte.22185$8j1.13879@fe04.news.easynews.com...
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
Fascist Alert!!!!!!!! Fascist Alert!!!!!!!!
LOL
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