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"Charles Farley" |
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22 Oct 2004 12:47:06 PM |
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The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
Several excerpts from Stolen Honor are available here:
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/program-excerpts.asp
and here:
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/samples.asp
Here's a video news report form a Pennsylvania news station where the
documentary Stolen Honor was to be shown in a movie theater.
John Kerry's campaign chair for Pennsylvania sent out an e-mail
telling Kerry supporters to cause "civil disobedience" to disrupt and
stop the showing of the film:
http://ww2.wpvi.com/global/video/popup/pop_index.asp?ClipID1=274646&h1=&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=146033&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&rnd=25052093
The theater owner buckled under the intimidation, and the movie was
not shown.
If the above link fails, click this link:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/101904_nw_stolenhonor.html
then click "VIDEO: Dann Cuellar reports" located after the first
paragraph of the story.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
22 Oct 2004 04:42:21 PM |
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Subject: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See
From: (Charles Farley)
Date: 10/22/2004 1:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <a12aa624.0410220947.9710b65@posting.google.com>
Several excerpts from Stolen Honor are available here:
Do you not find it funny that these drunks of the local vfw went to a lawyer
and sued sinclair. What a bunch of idiots. You do know that these idiots all
believe that we could have won the vietnam war if it was not for the war
protestors. Very stupid bunch of liars.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Sir Cumference" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
22 Oct 2004 09:00:27 PM |
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Charles Farley wrote:
Several excerpts from Stolen Honor are available here:
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/program-excerpts.asp
and here:
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/samples.asp
Here's a video news report form a Pennsylvania news station where the
documentary Stolen Honor was to be shown in a movie theater.
John Kerry's campaign chair for Pennsylvania sent out an e-mail
telling Kerry supporters to cause "civil disobedience" to disrupt and
stop the showing of the film:
http://ww2.wpvi.com/global/video/popup/pop_index.asp?ClipID1=274646&h1=&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=146033&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&rnd=25052093
The theater owner buckled under the intimidation, and the movie was
not shown.
If the above link fails, click this link:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/101904_nw_stolenhonor.html
then click "VIDEO: Dann Cuellar reports" located after the first
paragraph of the story.
Did the Republicians send out emails to cause civil disobedience at
theaters that showed the fictional documdentary that the idiot Moore
produced? No, Rebublicians respect free speech, sure doesn't look like
the simple minded dummycrat liberals do. They attempt to supress free
speech.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
22 Oct 2004 11:09:14 PM |
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Subject: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See
From: Sir Cumference
Date: 10/22/2004 10:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <j5-dnacH1vl7JuTcRVn-qA@gbronline.com>
Charles Farley wrote:
Several excerpts from Stolen Honor are available here:
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/program-excerpts.asp
and here:
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/samples.asp
Here's a video news report form a Pennsylvania news station where the
documentary Stolen Honor was to be shown in a movie theater.
John Kerry's campaign chair for Pennsylvania sent out an e-mail
telling Kerry supporters to cause "civil disobedience" to disrupt and
stop the showing of the film:
http://ww2.wpvi.com/global/video/popup/pop_index.asp?ClipID1=274646&h1=&v
t1=v&at1=News&d1=146033&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&rnd=25052093
The theater owner buckled under the intimidation, and the movie was
not shown.
If the above link fails, click this link:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/101904_nw_stolenhonor.html
then click "VIDEO: Dann Cuellar reports" located after the first
paragraph of the story.
Did the Republicians send out emails to cause civil disobedience at
theaters that showed the fictional documdentary that the idiot Moore
produced? No, Rebublicians respect free speech, sure doesn't look like
the simple minded dummycrat liberals do. They attempt to supress free
speech.
Really then why did the bush administration place a complain with the election
committee over the movie?
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
22 Oct 2004 01:26:15 PM |
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The Film neocons don't Want You to See
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf
--
TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Charles Farley" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
23 Oct 2004 02:02:41 PM |
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"<SmirkS>"
The Film neocons don't Want You to See
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf
You should have posted long ago that you believed
a wacko conspiracy theory that the US fired missiles
at the Pentagon on 9-11. It would have saved me lots
of time, as I would have simply ignored every post from
you afterwards, as I will do from now on.
This is who backs Kerry -- people who think the US fired
missiles at itself on 9-11.
Fucking idiots.
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
23 Oct 2004 03:32:39 PM |
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Charles Farley posted:
You should have posted long ago that you believed
a wacko conspiracy theory that the US fired missiles
at the Pentagon on 9-11. It would have saved me lots
of time, as I would have simply ignored every post from
you afterwards, as I will do from now on.
great. you're an idiot, anyway.
This is who backs Kerry -- people who think the US fired
missiles at itself on 9-11.
this is backs bush - people who think no republican can be evil.
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
23 Oct 2004 03:34:39 PM |
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"<SmirkS>" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:Xns958B89DDEBF68itsmemcd@130.133.1.4...
Charles Farley posted:
You should have posted long ago that you believed
a wacko conspiracy theory that the US fired missiles
at the Pentagon on 9-11. It would have saved me lots
of time, as I would have simply ignored every post from
you afterwards, as I will do from now on.
great. you're an idiot, anyway.
Do you really believe that?
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| User: "Charles Farley" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
24 Oct 2004 12:49:29 PM |
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"Bob" wrote:
"<SmirkS>" <me@privacy.net> wrote
Charles Farley posted:
You should have posted long ago that you believed
a wacko conspiracy theory that the US fired missiles
at the Pentagon on 9-11. It would have saved me lots
of time, as I would have simply ignored every post from
you afterwards, as I will do from now on.
great. you're an idiot, anyway.
Do you really believe that?
Yes, he does.
Poster "SmirkS" thinks the 9-11 attacks were caused by
American missiles.
Here's the post:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Xns958B894AC1A2Fitsmemcd%40130.133.1.4
<SmirkS> (me@privacy.net)
Charles Farley wrote:
But since you posted in another thread that the US fired
missiles at itself on 9-11, you no longer warrant a
response.
fine.
that you believe a jet hit the pentagon is enough for me to
feel the same way about you, chucky.
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
23 Oct 2004 03:45:06 PM |
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Bob posted:
great. you're an idiot, anyway.
Do you really believe that?
that chuck's an idiot?
well, i don't really know. he indicates that he is.
--
TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Chris S." |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
25 Oct 2004 06:03:56 AM |
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Charles Farley wrote:
"<SmirkS>"
The Film neocons don't Want You to See
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf
You should have posted long ago that you believed
a wacko conspiracy theory that the US fired missiles
at the Pentagon on 9-11. It would have saved me lots
of time, as I would have simply ignored every post from
you afterwards, as I will do from now on.
This is who backs Kerry -- people who think the US fired
missiles at itself on 9-11.
Fucking idiots.
I wouldn't dismiss the argument entirely. While I don't believe it
either, they articulate their points quite well and raise some
interesting questions. I don't think it's the result of some
"conspiracy" but are videos of the crash actually being with-held?
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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25 Oct 2004 10:05:40 AM |
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Chris S. posted:
This is who backs Kerry -- people who think the US fired
missiles at itself on 9-11.
Fucking idiots.
I wouldn't dismiss the argument entirely. While I don't believe it
either, they articulate their points quite well and raise some
interesting questions. I don't think it's the result of some
"conspiracy" but are videos of the crash actually being with-held?
my response to chuck:
why are we in iraq, chuck?
the hijackers were saudis, right?
nothing adds up. why do you support a theory that doesn't add up?
you beginning to see the hilarity in supporting whacky conspiracy theories
yet? after all, you're supporting a damn funny one of your own.
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Richard Cranium" |
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25 Oct 2004 10:55:41 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:03:56 GMT, "Chris S." <chrisks@NOSPAM.udel.edu>
wrote:
Charles Farley wrote:
"<SmirkS>"
The Film neocons don't Want You to See
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf
You should have posted long ago that you believed
a wacko conspiracy theory that the US fired missiles
at the Pentagon on 9-11. It would have saved me lots
of time, as I would have simply ignored every post from
you afterwards, as I will do from now on.
This is who backs Kerry -- people who think the US fired
missiles at itself on 9-11.
Fucking idiots.
I wouldn't dismiss the argument entirely. While I don't believe it
either, they articulate their points quite well and raise some
interesting questions. I don't think it's the result of some
"conspiracy" but are videos of the crash actually being with-held?
The instant that you say "I wouldn't dismiss the argument entirely",
you join the group of synapse-starved-conspiracy-buffs who are doomed
to walk in circles of ever-decreasing radii, until they walk through
their own assholes and turn inside out.
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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25 Oct 2004 11:07:35 AM |
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Richard Cranium posted:
The instant that you say "I wouldn't dismiss the argument entirely",
you join the group of synapse-starved-conspiracy-buffs who are doomed
to walk in circles of ever-decreasing radii, until they walk through
their own assholes and turn inside out.
until someone coughs up some EVIDENCE, your explanation is also a theory.
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf , *****.
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Richard Cranium" |
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25 Oct 2004 01:15:33 PM |
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On 25 Oct 2004 16:07:35 GMT, "<SmirkS>" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Richard Cranium posted:
The instant that you say "I wouldn't dismiss the argument entirely",
you join the group of synapse-starved-conspiracy-buffs who are doomed
to walk in circles of ever-decreasing radii, until they walk through
their own assholes and turn inside out.
until someone coughs up some EVIDENCE, your explanation is also a theory.
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf , *****.
--
TheTruthHurts.
Sorry, but I just have to ask a really (really) serious question:
Do you truly accept that the story about missles being fired from the
airliners as they were about to hit the WTC has even a shred (let's
make it the most minute of threads) of potential truth? I'm asking
this as a very serious question because I cannot understand how one
would/could adopt such an attitude/belief. Do you challenge, in any
way, the statement that hijackers flew the planes into the buildings
in a suicide act and the burning fuel led to the collapse?
Please, no wiseass response . . . I'm struggling to understand how one
could seriously give any credence to such a story.
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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25 Oct 2004 01:45:54 PM |
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Richard Cranium posted:
Sorry, but I just have to ask a really (really) serious question:
Do you truly accept that the story about missles being fired from the
airliners as they were about to hit the WTC has even a shred (let's
make it the most minute of threads) of potential truth? I'm asking
this as a very serious question because I cannot understand how one
would/could adopt such an attitude/belief. Do you challenge, in any
way, the statement that hijackers flew the planes into the buildings
in a suicide act and the burning fuel led to the collapse?
Please, no wiseass response . . . I'm struggling to understand how one
could seriously give any credence to such a story.
straight up - do you believe that a jet could cause a world trade center
tower to come straight down in the fashion that it did? especially given
the fact that no fire-protected steel structure has EVER fallen in such a
manner before or since?
there were floors that were empty up there. loaded with fuel, perhaps?
no, i don't think missiles were used at the wtc towers.
pentagon - yes, i think a missile was used at the pentagon.
shock & awe - wonder when that phrase was first uttered in washington?
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Sir Cumference" |
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25 Oct 2004 08:52:39 PM |
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<smirk> wrote:
Richard Cranium posted:
Sorry, but I just have to ask a really (really) serious question:
Do you truly accept that the story about missles being fired from the
airliners as they were about to hit the WTC has even a shred (let's
make it the most minute of threads) of potential truth? I'm asking
this as a very serious question because I cannot understand how one
would/could adopt such an attitude/belief. Do you challenge, in any
way, the statement that hijackers flew the planes into the buildings
in a suicide act and the burning fuel led to the collapse?
Please, no wiseass response . . . I'm struggling to understand how one
could seriously give any credence to such a story.
straight up - do you believe that a jet could cause a world trade center
tower to come straight down in the fashion that it did? especially given
the fact that no fire-protected steel structure has EVER fallen in such a
manner before or since?
there were floors that were empty up there. loaded with fuel, perhaps?
no, i don't think missiles were used at the wtc towers.
pentagon - yes, i think a missile was used at the pentagon.
shock & awe - wonder when that phrase was first uttered in washington?
Good grief, are you really this stupid? Opps, forgot Jason, you really are.
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| User: "Richard Cranium" |
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25 Oct 2004 07:07:34 PM |
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On 25 Oct 2004 18:45:54 GMT, "<SmirkS>" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Richard Cranium posted:
Sorry, but I just have to ask a really (really) serious question:
Do you truly accept that the story about missles being fired from the
airliners as they were about to hit the WTC has even a shred (let's
make it the most minute of threads) of potential truth? I'm asking
this as a very serious question because I cannot understand how one
would/could adopt such an attitude/belief. Do you challenge, in any
way, the statement that hijackers flew the planes into the buildings
in a suicide act and the burning fuel led to the collapse?
Please, no wiseass response . . . I'm struggling to understand how one
could seriously give any credence to such a story.
straight up - do you believe that a jet could cause a world trade center
tower to come straight down in the fashion that it did? especially given
the fact that no fire-protected steel structure has EVER fallen in such a
manner before or since?
there were floors that were empty up there. loaded with fuel, perhaps?
no, i don't think missiles were used at the wtc towers.
pentagon - yes, i think a missile was used at the pentagon.
shock & awe - wonder when that phrase was first uttered in washington?
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TheTruthHurts.
I'm going to resist name calling and try to reason a bit with you on
this.
The jet did not cause the WTC to collapse, though it did inflict
damage on the vertical load bearing structures. The burning fuel
(recall these were specifically selected Boston to LA flights with
requisite large fuel capacities) created huge fires. The incredible
temperatures weakened the horizontal trusses that supported the cement
slab floors (which themselves were supported by the vertical steel
pillars around the perimeter and the reinforced concrete central core
- all damaged by the impact). The steel lost rigidity and resistance
and, coupled with the damage from the initial impact, led to the
"domino" effect of each floor pancaking on the floor below. Remember,
each time a floor collapsed, it increased the total mass of falling
material by one floor. Note also that the WTC towers fell vertically,
rather than toppling over. Keep in mind that the WTC construction was
unique with the outer shell being an integral structural element.
Empty floors, loaded with fuel? Where is that coming from? I wonder
how one postulates getting floors emptied, let alone full of fuel up
the WTC elevators - or was it filled by a KC130 tanker?
Why do you think a missle was used at the Pentagon when there is ample
tracking of AA77 from Dulles takeoff at 8:32AM to crash at 9:37AM?
When I read stuff like that you've posted, I wonder what motivates the
person putting it up. This is akin to the nutcase fabrication that
"Jews were told not to come to work at the WTC that day".
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
25 Oct 2004 07:17:57 PM |
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Richard Cranium posted:
I'm going to resist name calling and try to reason a bit with you on
this.
The jet did not cause the WTC to collapse, though it did inflict
damage on the vertical load bearing structures. The burning fuel
(recall these were specifically selected Boston to LA flights with
requisite large fuel capacities) created
blah blah blah.
believe me, i've been down this road before.
neither of us knows what the hell happened on 9/11.
that should be disturbing to everyone.
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Richard Cranium" |
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25 Oct 2004 07:55:00 PM |
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On 26 Oct 2004 00:17:57 GMT, "<SmirkS>" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Richard Cranium posted:
I'm going to resist name calling and try to reason a bit with you on
this.
The jet did not cause the WTC to collapse, though it did inflict
damage on the vertical load bearing structures. The burning fuel
(recall these were specifically selected Boston to LA flights with
requisite large fuel capacities) created
blah blah blah.
believe me, i've been down this road before.
neither of us knows what the hell happened on 9/11.
that should be disturbing to everyone.
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TheTruthHurts.
From your response I can only say that your tag line reveals that you
are in extreme pain. Hopefully, one day you'll realize that there are
not dark forces at work everywhere and black helicopters are not
running rampant. The day after that, you'll likely be pleased to
discover your initial pubic hair.
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| User: "Richard Cranium" |
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25 Oct 2004 07:58:37 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:55:00 GMT, (Richard Cranium)
wrote:
On 26 Oct 2004 00:17:57 GMT, "<SmirkS>" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Richard Cranium posted:
I'm going to resist name calling and try to reason a bit with you on
this.
The jet did not cause the WTC to collapse, though it did inflict
damage on the vertical load bearing structures. The burning fuel
(recall these were specifically selected Boston to LA flights with
requisite large fuel capacities) created
blah blah blah.
believe me, i've been down this road before.
neither of us knows what the hell happened on 9/11.
that should be disturbing to everyone.
--
TheTruthHurts.
From your response I can only say that your tag line reveals that you
are in extreme pain. Hopefully, one day you'll realize that there are
not dark forces at work everywhere and black helicopters are not
running rampant. The day after that, you'll likely be pleased to
discover your initial pubic hair.
Oh, and I should add that when you say "neither of us knows what the
hell happened on 9/11", you're speaking for yourself. I, and most of
the world with only the most elementary of reasoning powers, know
exactly what happened on that date. It's the poor slobs like you who
are in the dark . . . . where you'll likely remain for all time.
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| User: "SmirkS" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
25 Oct 2004 08:27:14 PM |
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Richard Cranium posted:
From your response I can only say that your tag line reveals that you
are in extreme pain. Hopefully, one day you'll realize that there are
not dark forces at work everywhere and black helicopters are not
running rampant. The day after that, you'll likely be pleased to
discover your initial pubic hair.
more blah blah blah.
so, you accept that some saudi hijackers were able to steer jets into the
wtc towers, bringing them straight down to the ground - and that the
pentagon was also hit, completely by accident by the way - lucky for them
hijackers, yes?
PNAC - 1997:
"we need another pearl harbor-type event."
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TheTruthHurts.
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| User: "Sir Cumference" |
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| Title: Re: The Film John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See |
25 Oct 2004 10:47:14 PM |
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<smirk AKA Jason> wrote:
Richard Cranium posted:
From your response I can only say that your tag line reveals that you
are in extreme pain. Hopefully, one day you'll realize that there are
not dark forces at work everywhere and black helicopters are not
running rampant. The day after that, you'll likely be pleased to
discover your initial pubic hair.
more blah blah blah.
so, you accept that some saudi hijackers were able to steer jets into the
wtc towers, bringing them straight down to the ground - and that the
pentagon was also hit, completely by accident by the way - lucky for them
hijackers, yes?
PNAC - 1997:
"we need another pearl harbor-type event."
Richard, does this idiots statement about the WTC give you a clue as to
how much attention should be paid to him?
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