"mhirtes" <mh@spammersarescum.com> wrote in message
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I'm surprised that no repugs posted this first.

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Big deal .

Again, polls do not elect the president.

The popular vote does NOT elect the president.

Got it yet?

The Electoral College elects the president and George W. Bush needs 270
votes to be reelected and tight now he has OVER 300 by anyone's count.

Got it?

mhirtes wrote:

I'm surprised that no repugs posted this first.

I mean, we all know how quick they were to jump on here and brag about
Bush's poll numbers right after the GOP convention.

So, why are they not repost THIS?:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6159637/site/newsweek/


The Race is On
With voters widely viewing Kerry as the debateıs winner, Bushıs lead in
the NEWSWEEK poll has evaporated

Ron Edmonds / AP
The face of frustration?: Bush on debate night
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Brian Braiker
Newsweek
Updated: 6:04 p.m. ET Oct. 2, 2004

Oct. 2 - With a solid majority of voters concluding that John Kerry
outperformed George W. Bush in the first presidential debate on
Thursday, the presidentıs lead in the race for the White House has
vanished, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. In the first national
telephone poll using a fresh sample, NEWSWEEK found the race now
statistically tied among all registered voters, 47 percent of whom say
they would vote for Kerry and 45 percent for George W. Bush in a
three-way race.

Removing Independent candidate Ralph Nader, who draws 2 percent of the
vote, widens the Kerry-Edwards lead to three points with 49 percent of
the vote versus the incumbentıs 46 percent. Four weeks ago the
Republican ticket, coming out of a successful convention in New York,
enjoyed an 11-point lead over Kerry-Edwards with Bush pulling 52 percent
of the vote and the challenger just 41 percent.

Among the three-quarters (74 percent) of registered voters who say they
watched at least some of Thursdayıs debate, 61 percent see Kerry as the
clear winner, 19 percent pick Bush as the victor and 16 percent call it
a draw. After weeks of being portrayed as a verbose ³flip-flopper² by
Republicans, Kerry did better than a majority (56 percent) had expected.
Only about 11 percent would say the same for the presidentıs performance
while more than one-third (38 percent) said the incumbent actually did
worse that they had expected. Thirty-nine percent of Republicans felt
their man out-debated the challenger but a full third (33 percent) say
they felt Kerry won.

Kerryıs perceived victory may be attributed to the fact that, by a wide
margin (62 percent to 26 percent), debate watchers felt the senator came
across as more confident than the president. More than half (56 percent)
also see Kerry has having a better command of the facts than Bush (37
percent). As a result, the challengerıs favorability ratings (52
percent, versus 40 percent unfavorable) are better than Bushıs, who at
49 percent (and 46 percent unfavorable), has dipped below the halfway
mark for the first time since July. Kerry, typically characterized as
aloof and out of touch by his opponents, came across as more personally
likeable than Bush (47 percent to the presidentıs 41 percent).

NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE POLL

Who was the better debater? Tell us what you think after the first
head-to-head matchup. Click here to take our poll

In fact, Kerryıs numbers have improved across the board, while Bushıs
vulnerabilities have become more pronounced. The senator is seen as more
intelligent and well-informed (80 percent, up six points over last
month, compared to Bushıs steady 59 percent); as having strong
leadership skills (56 percent, also up 6 points, but still less than
Bushıs 62 percent) and as someone who can be trusted to make the right
calls in an international crisis (51 percent, up five points and tied
with Bush).

Meanwhile, Bushıs approval ratings have dropped to below the halfway
mark (46 percent) for the first time since the GOP convention in late
August. Nearly half of all voters (48 percent) say they do not want to
see Bush re-elected, while 46 percent say they do. Still, a majority of
voters (55 percent versus 29 percent) believe the president will be
re-hired on Nov. 2.

Neither man was seen as a particularly stronger leader (44 percent Bush,
47 percent Kerry), more negative (37 percent Bush, 36 percent Kerry) or
more honest (43 percent Bush, 45 percent Kerry).

Perhaps because the debate topic focused on foreign policy > > was

is the issue that will most determine their vote, up from 15 percent.
Tied with Iraq is the economy (21 percent), and still leading the list
is terrorism and homeland security (26 percent). And key for the
president is the fact that he is the preferred man on the issues more
important to voters. On homeland security, Bush is preferred 52 percent
to Kerryıs 40 percent (a significant spread, but a narrowing one: Last
month the spread, in the presidentıs favor, was 58 percent to 34
percent). On Iraq Bush is preferred 49 percent to 44 percent (compared
to 54 percent versus 39 percent a month ago). Kerry is even with the
president on the question of which man is better suited to guide foreign
policy in general (48 percent Bush to the challengerıs 46 percent) and
clamping down on the proliferation of nuclear materiel (47 percent Bush,
43 percent Kerry).

Where Kerry clearly leads is on domestic issues, which will be the focus
of the third debate on Oct. 13, in Tempe, Ariz. The Democrat is
preferred to Bush by double-digit spreads on who would be better at
handling the economy (52 percent to 39 percent), foreign competition (54
percent to 36 percent) and health care (56 percent to 34 percent).

Although the subject of the draft was only briefly addressed during the
debate, four in ten voters (38 percent) believe that because of the war
in Iraq > > Bush administration would reinstate the draft. Just 18

same would happen if Kerry were elected. Nearly two thirds (62 percent)
feel a draft should not be considered at this time and 28 percent said a
draft should at least be considered. But only 46 percent feel going to
war was the right decision in the first place with just as many (45
percent) under the impression that the administration deliberately
misled the nation into war with falsified evidence of weapons of mass
destruction.

Finally, echoing a recurring refrain of Kerryıs, more than half of all
voters (51 percent) think the Bush administration has not done enough to
engage other nations (43 percent feel they have done enough or even gone
too far in that direction as it is).

For the NEWSWEEK poll, Princeton Survey Research Associates interviewed
1,013 registered voters aged 18 and older between Sept. 30 and Oct. 2 by
telephone. The margin of error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.

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University in 1969; "I would think that if you understood what
communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees,
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John and Jane forever...

Again, polls do not elect the president.

Again, polls do not elect the president.

The popular vote does NOT elect the president.

Got it yet?

The Electoral College elects the president and George W. Bush needs 270
votes to be reelected and tight now he has OVER 300 by anyone's count.