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"Harry Hope" |
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09 May 2007 06:00:57 PM |
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The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group. |
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
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In a large number of headline-grabbing plots, particularly in America,
homegrown terrorists seem to have been long on cataclysmic imagination
and short on ability to carry out their plans.
Newspapers screamed with fire and brimstone when arrests were made in
an alleged plot to flood lower Manhattan by blowing up underwater
commuter tunnels, but the scheme was later revealed to be little more
than a fantasy.
From The Associated Press, 5/9/07:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-fort-dix-homegrown-terror,0,1524015.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines
Dix Plot Shows Homegrown Radical Threat
By PAUL HAVEN
Associated Press Writer
Blowing up the Sears Tower, beheading the Canadian prime minister,
unleashing a flood on lower Manhattan -- homegrown radicals have
dreamed up lots of horrific plots that have gone nowhere.
The alleged plan to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey is the latest in the
line, and it reveals much about the challenges, and the advantages, of
dealing with homegrown radicals with no direct connection to al-Qaida.
Experts say homegrown groups can be small and difficult to uncover,
but they often make breathtakingly foolish mistakes, and lack funding,
discipline and training.
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
_____________________________________________________
Another gang that couldn't shoot straight
Harry
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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| Title: Re: The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group. |
10 May 2007 10:32:09 AM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:8lk443pj2til588s7pf0qjvmkfm8k90v2o@4ax.com...
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
......................................................................................................
In a large number of headline-grabbing plots, particularly in America,
homegrown terrorists seem to have been long on cataclysmic imagination
and short on ability to carry out their plans.
Newspapers screamed with fire and brimstone when arrests were made in
an alleged plot to flood lower Manhattan by blowing up underwater
commuter tunnels, but the scheme was later revealed to be little more
than a fantasy.
From The Associated Press, 5/9/07:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-fort-dix-homegrown-terror,0,1524015.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines
Dix Plot Shows Homegrown Radical Threat
By PAUL HAVEN
Associated Press Writer
Blowing up the Sears Tower, beheading the Canadian prime minister,
unleashing a flood on lower Manhattan -- homegrown radicals have
dreamed up lots of horrific plots that have gone nowhere.
The alleged plan to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey is the latest in the
line, and it reveals much about the challenges, and the advantages, of
dealing with homegrown radicals with no direct connection to al-Qaida.
Experts say homegrown groups can be small and difficult to uncover,
but they often make breathtakingly foolish mistakes, and lack funding,
discipline and training.
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
_____________________________________________________
Another gang that couldn't shoot straight
***** Cheney would have fit right in.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group. |
09 May 2007 07:13:26 PM |
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They had a few non-automatic guns and an idea.
I thought guns were legal.
We're not arresting people for their thoughts?
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:8lk443pj2til588s7pf0qjvmkfm8k90v2o@4ax.com...
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
......................................................................................................
In a large number of headline-grabbing plots, particularly in America,
homegrown terrorists seem to have been long on cataclysmic imagination
and short on ability to carry out their plans.
Newspapers screamed with fire and brimstone when arrests were made in
an alleged plot to flood lower Manhattan by blowing up underwater
commuter tunnels, but the scheme was later revealed to be little more
than a fantasy.
From The Associated Press, 5/9/07:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-fort-dix-homegrown-terror,0,1524015.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines
Dix Plot Shows Homegrown Radical Threat
By PAUL HAVEN
Associated Press Writer
Blowing up the Sears Tower, beheading the Canadian prime minister,
unleashing a flood on lower Manhattan -- homegrown radicals have
dreamed up lots of horrific plots that have gone nowhere.
The alleged plan to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey is the latest in the
line, and it reveals much about the challenges, and the advantages, of
dealing with homegrown radicals with no direct connection to al-Qaida.
Experts say homegrown groups can be small and difficult to uncover,
but they often make breathtakingly foolish mistakes, and lack funding,
discipline and training.
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
_____________________________________________________
Another gang that couldn't shoot straight
Harry
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| User: "Bill Rood" |
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| Title: Re: The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group. |
09 May 2007 11:26:28 PM |
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Roger wrote:
They had a few non-automatic guns and an idea.
I thought guns were legal.
We're not arresting people for their thoughts?
Unfortunately, if a group is angry and has been bantering about
something they "ought" to do, then if just one of them takes a concrete
step toward implementing the "plan", even if that one concrete step is
legal, the whole group can be found guilty of conspiracy. I'm not saying
it's right, but I believe that's the law.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:8lk443pj2til588s7pf0qjvmkfm8k90v2o@4ax.com...
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
......................................................................................................
In a large number of headline-grabbing plots, particularly in America,
homegrown terrorists seem to have been long on cataclysmic imagination
and short on ability to carry out their plans.
Newspapers screamed with fire and brimstone when arrests were made in
an alleged plot to flood lower Manhattan by blowing up underwater
commuter tunnels, but the scheme was later revealed to be little more
than a fantasy.
From The Associated Press, 5/9/07:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-fort-dix-homegrown-terror,0,1524015.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines
Dix Plot Shows Homegrown Radical Threat
By PAUL HAVEN
Associated Press Writer
Blowing up the Sears Tower, beheading the Canadian prime minister,
unleashing a flood on lower Manhattan -- homegrown radicals have
dreamed up lots of horrific plots that have gone nowhere.
The alleged plan to attack Fort Dix in New Jersey is the latest in the
line, and it reveals much about the challenges, and the advantages, of
dealing with homegrown radicals with no direct connection to al-Qaida.
Experts say homegrown groups can be small and difficult to uncover,
but they often make breathtakingly foolish mistakes, and lack funding,
discipline and training.
The Fort Dix suspects were a seemingly clumsy and dithering group of
young Muslim men who turned out to be their own worst enemy.
They allegedly sent a jihadi videotape to a local store to be copied,
prompting the clerk to tip off authorities.
The FBI infiltrated the group and watched them for more than a year
before moving in this week.
The purported plotters allegedly held weapons training sessions and
had scoped out their target, but they also at times seemed like
reluctant warriors.
They asked the FBI informant if he could lead the operation because he
had more experience, then said they shouldn't carry out the attack
without a fatwa -- a religious edict -- from a Muslim cleric.
One of the men even reportedly expressed misgivings about using
automatic weapons for what would have been a bloody rampage against
soldiers at the Army post, noting that such weapons are illegal.
_____________________________________________________
Another gang that couldn't shoot straight
Harry
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