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"Ken [NY" |
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19 Aug 2003 09:59:59 AM |
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THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS ROLE MODELS
So lo and behold: Hillary Clinton thinks we should emulate the French
way of raising our kids. In her book, It Takes a Village, and in an
op-ed she wrote for the New York Times in 1990, Mrs. Clinton sings the
praises of the French child-care system. Whether she still holds these
views is impossible to tell, as she has been stripping herself of her
husband's positions the way her husband might strip off his pants at
the intern pool.
But assuming she does, here is what she thinks. The French are great
because they spend a billion-zillion francs (which should be about
$38.95 but is actually quite a bit of schmundo) on day care for their
children. Now she's too smart to say we should do precisely what the
French do. "France is a country far smaller and more homogeneous than
ours."
This is an important point because the French are surely quite
Francophillic in the way they raise their oui-ones (Get it? Get it?).
The French taught children in their colonies in Africa that they were
the descendants of the Gauls. The French start really early with the
"France is great" stuff. Look at the fights we have today over such
things as school prayer and high-school curricula. Would you want the
Clintons and the Children's Defense Fund being the people in charge of
imprinting values on your three-year-olds? It cuts both ways; imagine
the howling from the Left if conservatives ran the show. "Yes, Billy
that's an American flag, you should love it and honor it."
That's fascism according to the Dershowitz crowd.
So Hillary heads off that pesky "values" issue which would likely
come up. Instead, she says "What I do believe, however, is that the
French have found a way of expressing their love and concern through
policies that focus on children's needs during the earliest stages of
life." Well, that's awfully sweet. Government as an instrument of
love! You see, this isn't an issue of politics, it's an issue about
children and our love for them. Cue the Disney butterflies and snuggly
little bunnies!
If the Right would just lay down their guns and accept a huge
government-run and government-valued child-care system, our children
would prosper -- even the children of right wingers (as surely we
would educate them out of their intolerance).
"How can you transcend your political differences and come to an
agreement on the issue of government-subsidized child care?" Hillary
asked of her French hosts when she was over there. "One after another
of them looked at me in astonishment. 'How can you not invest in
children and expect to have a healthy country?' was the reply I heard
over and over again."
Ohhhhhhhhhh… The French were astonished. The French were astonished.
Well, no wonder Hillary is convinced.
First of all, when did we get to stipulate that France was so
healthy? How do we define health? Mental health? No, that can't be it
-- Jerry Lewis, and all that. Physical health? Okay, so they have the
slightest of edges on us in life expectancy.
But that can't be the answer. She must be talking about political
health. Because in a mature, politically healthy society, people don't
question the role of government. It's like the role of fire and
toilets and shredders at the Rose Law Firm -- they're just there and
should be used as often as necessary or possible.
Let's also not forget that the French practice what the demographers
call pro-natalist policies. In other words, the French need to
encourage people to make more babies, because European birth rates are
in the tank and, unlike in the U.S., we don't mind (as much)
maintaining our population through immigration. Anti-immigrant
feelings are just one of the enlightened reasons the government makes
parenthood as painless as possible.
French "astonishment" has less to do with the fact that their
policies are better as much as it has to do with the fact that the
French can't stand Americans. The French are also astonished by the
fact that Americans: bathe every day, don't know diddly about the
U.N., don't want the government to raise their kids, don't think of
France as an equal great power, don't think it's a sign of national
greatness to subsidize the bulk of Africa's corrupt bureaucrats, think
it's an odd idea to spend tax dollars on a film industry dedicated to
the notion that chance encounters in used-book stores make for great
drama, and think that their national leaders shouldn't be canoodling
the help while they impose sexual-harassment laws on the rest of us.
Our idea of political health is to keep politics out of as many
spheres of human life as possible. "Consensus" on children's issues,
like with so many other things in today's political arguments, means
simply "capitulation" to the mature politics people like Hillary
Clinton admire.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
19 Aug 2003 06:18:21 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
oee4kvg0l0rufd880slacofg6nir1lqoa4@4ax.com...
This is an important point because the French are surely quite
Francophillic in the way they raise their oui-ones (Get it? Get
it?).
The French taught children in their colonies in Africa that they
were
the descendants of the Gauls. The French start really early with the
"France is great" stuff. Look at the fights we have today over such
things as school prayer and high-school curricula. Would you want
the
Clintons and the Children's Defense Fund being the people in charge
of
imprinting values on your three-year-olds? It cuts both ways;
imagine
the howling from the Left if conservatives ran the show. "Yes, Billy
that's an American flag, you should love it and honor it."
Isn't this the case. Do you not have schools sponsored by soft drink
manufacturers and their like? Do you honestly hold that US children
are not quite as indoctrinated with the general sentiment of their
country as children are probably anywhere in the world? France doesn't
have the national flag in classrooms.
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| User: "Bidoux" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
19 Aug 2003 07:27:14 PM |
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And Frencd women don't weight 190 pounds.....
"Ken [NY)" a =E9crit :
THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS ROLE MODELS
So lo and behold: Hillary Clinton thinks we should emulate the French
way of raising our kids. In her book, It Takes a Village, and in an
op-ed she wrote for the New York Times in 1990, Mrs. Clinton sings the
praises of the French child-care system. Whether she still holds these
views is impossible to tell, as she has been stripping herself of her
husband's positions the way her husband might strip off his pants at
the intern pool.
But assuming she does, here is what she thinks. The French are great
because they spend a billion-zillion francs (which should be about
$38.95 but is actually quite a bit of schmundo) on day care for their
children. Now she's too smart to say we should do precisely what the
French do. "France is a country far smaller and more homogeneous than
ours."
This is an important point because the French are surely quite
Francophillic in the way they raise their oui-ones (Get it? Get it?).
The French taught children in their colonies in Africa that they were
the descendants of the Gauls. The French start really early with the
"France is great" stuff. Look at the fights we have today over such
things as school prayer and high-school curricula. Would you want the
Clintons and the Children's Defense Fund being the people in charge of
imprinting values on your three-year-olds? It cuts both ways; imagine
the howling from the Left if conservatives ran the show. "Yes, Billy
that's an American flag, you should love it and honor it."
That's fascism according to the Dershowitz crowd.
So Hillary heads off that pesky "values" issue which would likely
come up. Instead, she says "What I do believe, however, is that the
French have found a way of expressing their love and concern through
policies that focus on children's needs during the earliest stages of
life." Well, that's awfully sweet. Government as an instrument of
love! You see, this isn't an issue of politics, it's an issue about
children and our love for them. Cue the Disney butterflies and snuggly
little bunnies!
If the Right would just lay down their guns and accept a huge
government-run and government-valued child-care system, our children
would prosper -- even the children of right wingers (as surely we
would educate them out of their intolerance).
"How can you transcend your political differences and come to an
agreement on the issue of government-subsidized child care?" Hillary
asked of her French hosts when she was over there. "One after another
of them looked at me in astonishment. 'How can you not invest in
children and expect to have a healthy country?' was the reply I heard
over and over again."
Ohhhhhhhhhh=85 The French were astonished. The French were astonished.=
Well, no wonder Hillary is convinced.
First of all, when did we get to stipulate that France was so
healthy? How do we define health? Mental health? No, that can't be it
-- Jerry Lewis, and all that. Physical health? Okay, so they have the
slightest of edges on us in life expectancy.
But that can't be the answer. She must be talking about political
health. Because in a mature, politically healthy society, people don't
question the role of government. It's like the role of fire and
toilets and shredders at the Rose Law Firm -- they're just there and
should be used as often as necessary or possible.
Let's also not forget that the French practice what the demographers
call pro-natalist policies. In other words, the French need to
encourage people to make more babies, because European birth rates are
in the tank and, unlike in the U.S., we don't mind (as much)
maintaining our population through immigration. Anti-immigrant
feelings are just one of the enlightened reasons the government makes
parenthood as painless as possible.
French "astonishment" has less to do with the fact that their
policies are better as much as it has to do with the fact that the
French can't stand Americans. The French are also astonished by the
fact that Americans: bathe every day, don't know diddly about the
U.N., don't want the government to raise their kids, don't think of
France as an equal great power, don't think it's a sign of national
greatness to subsidize the bulk of Africa's corrupt bureaucrats, think
it's an odd idea to spend tax dollars on a film industry dedicated to
the notion that chance encounters in used-book stores make for great
drama, and think that their national leaders shouldn't be canoodling
the help while they impose sexual-harassment laws on the rest of us.
Our idea of political health is to keep politics out of as many
spheres of human life as possible. "Consensus" on children's issues,
like with so many other things in today's political arguments, means
simply "capitulation" to the mature politics people like Hillary
Clinton admire.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you=92re gay.
.
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| User: "xanadoo" |
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09 Sep 2003 04:41:55 AM |
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Haha poor uneducated Yank who tries to comment somebody like Hilay
Clinton... get her years at school first, peasant ...
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
oee4kvg0l0rufd880slacofg6nir1lqoa4@4ax.com...
THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS ROLE MODELS
So lo and behold: Hillary Clinton thinks we should emulate the French
way of raising our kids. In her book, It Takes a Village, and in an
op-ed she wrote for the New York Times in 1990, Mrs. Clinton sings the
praises of the French child-care system. Whether she still holds these
views is impossible to tell, as she has been stripping herself of her
husband's positions the way her husband might strip off his pants at
the intern pool.
But assuming she does, here is what she thinks. The French are great
because they spend a billion-zillion francs (which should be about
$38.95 but is actually quite a bit of schmundo) on day care for their
children. Now she's too smart to say we should do precisely what the
French do. "France is a country far smaller and more homogeneous than
ours."
This is an important point because the French are surely quite
Francophillic in the way they raise their oui-ones (Get it? Get it?).
The French taught children in their colonies in Africa that they were
the descendants of the Gauls. The French start really early with the
"France is great" stuff. Look at the fights we have today over such
things as school prayer and high-school curricula. Would you want the
Clintons and the Children's Defense Fund being the people in charge of
imprinting values on your three-year-olds? It cuts both ways; imagine
the howling from the Left if conservatives ran the show. "Yes, Billy
that's an American flag, you should love it and honor it."
That's fascism according to the Dershowitz crowd.
So Hillary heads off that pesky "values" issue which would likely
come up. Instead, she says "What I do believe, however, is that the
French have found a way of expressing their love and concern through
policies that focus on children's needs during the earliest stages of
life." Well, that's awfully sweet. Government as an instrument of
love! You see, this isn't an issue of politics, it's an issue about
children and our love for them. Cue the Disney butterflies and snuggly
little bunnies!
If the Right would just lay down their guns and accept a huge
government-run and government-valued child-care system, our children
would prosper -- even the children of right wingers (as surely we
would educate them out of their intolerance).
"How can you transcend your political differences and come to an
agreement on the issue of government-subsidized child care?" Hillary
asked of her French hosts when she was over there. "One after another
of them looked at me in astonishment. 'How can you not invest in
children and expect to have a healthy country?' was the reply I heard
over and over again."
Ohhhhhhhhhh. The French were astonished. The French were astonished.
Well, no wonder Hillary is convinced.
First of all, when did we get to stipulate that France was so
healthy? How do we define health? Mental health? No, that can't be it
-- Jerry Lewis, and all that. Physical health? Okay, so they have the
slightest of edges on us in life expectancy.
But that can't be the answer. She must be talking about political
health. Because in a mature, politically healthy society, people don't
question the role of government. It's like the role of fire and
toilets and shredders at the Rose Law Firm -- they're just there and
should be used as often as necessary or possible.
Let's also not forget that the French practice what the demographers
call pro-natalist policies. In other words, the French need to
encourage people to make more babies, because European birth rates are
in the tank and, unlike in the U.S., we don't mind (as much)
maintaining our population through immigration. Anti-immigrant
feelings are just one of the enlightened reasons the government makes
parenthood as painless as possible.
French "astonishment" has less to do with the fact that their
policies are better as much as it has to do with the fact that the
French can't stand Americans. The French are also astonished by the
fact that Americans: bathe every day, don't know diddly about the
U.N., don't want the government to raise their kids, don't think of
France as an equal great power, don't think it's a sign of national
greatness to subsidize the bulk of Africa's corrupt bureaucrats, think
it's an odd idea to spend tax dollars on a film industry dedicated to
the notion that chance encounters in used-book stores make for great
drama, and think that their national leaders shouldn't be canoodling
the help while they impose sexual-harassment laws on the rest of us.
Our idea of political health is to keep politics out of as many
spheres of human life as possible. "Consensus" on children's issues,
like with so many other things in today's political arguments, means
simply "capitulation" to the mature politics people like Hillary
Clinton admire.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you're gay.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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21 Aug 2003 03:58:28 PM |
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In article <3F44117D.47E7EC89@videotron.fr>,
Bidoux <bidoux@videotron.fr> wrote:
France: 4th economical power in the world (USA, Japan, Germany)
and one of the most delightful livable countries in the world.
"Ken [NY)" a écrit :
THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS ROLE MODELS
So lo and behold: Hillary Clinton thinks we should emulate the French
way of raising our kids. In her book, It Takes a Village, and in an
op-ed she wrote for the New York Times in 1990, Mrs. Clinton sings the
praises of the French child-care system. Whether she still holds these
views is impossible to tell, as she has been stripping herself of her
husband's positions the way her husband might strip off his pants at
the intern pool.
But assuming she does, here is what she thinks. The French are great
because they spend a billion-zillion francs (which should be about
$38.95 but is actually quite a bit of schmundo) on day care for their
children. Now she's too smart to say we should do precisely what the
French do. "France is a country far smaller and more homogeneous than
ours."
This is an important point because the French are surely quite
Francophillic in the way they raise their oui-ones (Get it? Get it?).
The French taught children in their colonies in Africa that they were
the descendants of the Gauls. The French start really early with the
"France is great" stuff. Look at the fights we have today over such
things as school prayer and high-school curricula. Would you want the
Clintons and the Children's Defense Fund being the people in charge of
imprinting values on your three-year-olds? It cuts both ways; imagine
the howling from the Left if conservatives ran the show. "Yes, Billy
that's an American flag, you should love it and honor it."
That's fascism according to the Dershowitz crowd.
So Hillary heads off that pesky "values" issue which would likely
come up. Instead, she says "What I do believe, however, is that the
French have found a way of expressing their love and concern through
policies that focus on children's needs during the earliest stages of
life." Well, that's awfully sweet. Government as an instrument of
love! You see, this isn't an issue of politics, it's an issue about
children and our love for them. Cue the Disney butterflies and snuggly
little bunnies!
If the Right would just lay down their guns and accept a huge
government-run and government-valued child-care system, our children
would prosper -- even the children of right wingers (as surely we
would educate them out of their intolerance).
"How can you transcend your political differences and come to an
agreement on the issue of government-subsidized child care?" Hillary
asked of her French hosts when she was over there. "One after another
of them looked at me in astonishment. 'How can you not invest in
children and expect to have a healthy country?' was the reply I heard
over and over again."
Ohhhhhhhhhh… The French were astonished. The French were astonished.
Well, no wonder Hillary is convinced.
First of all, when did we get to stipulate that France was so
healthy? How do we define health? Mental health? No, that can't be it
-- Jerry Lewis, and all that. Physical health? Okay, so they have the
slightest of edges on us in life expectancy.
But that can't be the answer. She must be talking about political
health. Because in a mature, politically healthy society, people don't
question the role of government. It's like the role of fire and
toilets and shredders at the Rose Law Firm -- they're just there and
should be used as often as necessary or possible.
Let's also not forget that the French practice what the demographers
call pro-natalist policies. In other words, the French need to
encourage people to make more babies, because European birth rates are
in the tank and, unlike in the U.S., we don't mind (as much)
maintaining our population through immigration. Anti-immigrant
feelings are just one of the enlightened reasons the government makes
parenthood as painless as possible.
French "astonishment" has less to do with the fact that their
policies are better as much as it has to do with the fact that the
French can't stand Americans. The French are also astonished by the
fact that Americans: bathe every day, don't know diddly about the
U.N., don't want the government to raise their kids, don't think of
France as an equal great power, don't think it's a sign of national
greatness to subsidize the bulk of Africa's corrupt bureaucrats, think
it's an odd idea to spend tax dollars on a film industry dedicated to
the notion that chance encounters in used-book stores make for great
drama, and think that their national leaders shouldn't be canoodling
the help while they impose sexual-harassment laws on the rest of us.
Our idea of political health is to keep politics out of as many
spheres of human life as possible. "Consensus" on children's issues,
like with so many other things in today's political arguments, means
simply "capitulation" to the mature politics people like Hillary
Clinton admire.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
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| User: "Ken [NY" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
23 Aug 2003 12:14:03 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:16:33 +0200, "John of Aix"
<j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> ranted:
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
7ivbkvcm0cnv2qugbagkq0an5620aslie3@4ax.com...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:58:28 -0500, Jenn <jenn@hmplc.com> ranted:
In article <3F44117D.47E7EC89@videotron.fr>,
Bidoux <bidoux@videotron.fr> wrote:
France: 4th economical power in the world (USA, Japan, Germany)
and one of the most delightful livable countries in the world.
I agree that it is beautiful. I followed the Tour and marveled
at the countryside. The only problem is that France is infested with
Frenchmen. But no worry, they will eventually be outnumbered by
muslim
extremists who will take care of that little problem.
Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Grow up for god's sake man.
I can already envision a red crescent on the tricolours.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
We have suffered greatly from the United
Nations. Under no circumstances should
any Muslim or sane person resort to the
UnitedNations. The United Nations
is nothing but a tool of crime.
--Osama bin Laden, November 3, 2001
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
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| User: "Jerwann" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
23 Aug 2003 01:40:56 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
bu7fkvcn1k0nfm9vmib3j1hmch0849040n@4ax.com...
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:16:33 +0200, "John of Aix"
<j.murphyNOSPAM@libertysurf.fr> ranted:
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
7ivbkvcm0cnv2qugbagkq0an5620aslie3@4ax.com...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:58:28 -0500, Jenn <jenn@hmplc.com> ranted:
In article <3F44117D.47E7EC89@videotron.fr>,
Bidoux <bidoux@videotron.fr> wrote:
France: 4th economical power in the world (USA, Japan, Germany)
and one of the most delightful livable countries in the world.
I agree that it is beautiful. I followed the Tour and marveled
at the countryside. The only problem is that France is infested with
Frenchmen. But no worry, they will eventually be outnumbered by
muslim
extremists who will take care of that little problem.
Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Grow up for god's sake man.
I can already envision a red crescent on the tricolours.
The question is : why do you cross post on so many newsgroups? trying to
find people to hear you? I doubt anyone is interested by your "visions".
bye troll
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
We have suffered greatly from the United
Nations. Under no circumstances should
any Muslim or sane person resort to the
UnitedNations. The United Nations
is nothing but a tool of crime.
--Osama bin Laden, November 3, 2001
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you're gay.
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| User: "Ken [NY" |
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24 Aug 2003 05:49:18 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:40:56 +0200, "Jerwann" <jerwann@fsmail.net>
ranted:
I can already envision a red crescent on the tricolours.
The question is : why do you cross post on so many newsgroups?
None of your business. Bye.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
reported in The Washington Times
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
A: Telling your parents you’re gay.
.
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| User: "Ken [NY" |
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21 Aug 2003 09:35:47 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:25:33 -0300, Bidoux <bidoux@videotron.fr>
ranted:
France: 4th economical power in the world (USA, Japan, Germany)
If you mean by supplying stalinist regimes with armaments,
probably.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
____________________________________
email:
http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
We have suffered greatly from the United
Nations. Under no circumstances should
any Muslim or sane person resort to the
UnitedNations. The United Nations
is nothing but a tool of crime.
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
21 Aug 2003 02:06:31 PM |
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"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:25:33 -0300, Bidoux <bidoux@videotron.fr>
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France: 4th economical power in the world (USA, Japan, Germany)
If you mean by supplying stalinist regimes with armaments,
probably.
Dear oh dear Ken, have you subscribed to alt.rec.football? You can do
better than that and besides you'll never reach the level of
imbecility of Jarhead or Mange-merde
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| User: "Malev" |
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21 Aug 2003 11:45:17 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:35:47 GMT, "Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:25:33 -0300, Bidoux <bidoux@videotron.fr>
ranted:
France: 4th economical power in the world (USA, Japan, Germany)
If you mean by supplying stalinist regimes with armaments,
probably.
Ken (NY)
p'tain ce que t'es con.
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| User: "xanadoo" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
09 Sep 2003 04:43:41 AM |
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the least the French system could teach is NOT to be fanatic and stupid
flag-lickers, and to avoid eating franks and having 60% overweighted...
disgusting american fatasses, beurk !!!
"Ken [NY)" <email@Below.Text> a écrit dans le message de news:
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THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS ROLE MODELS
So lo and behold: Hillary Clinton thinks we should emulate the French
way of raising our kids. In her book, It Takes a Village, and in an
op-ed she wrote for the New York Times in 1990, Mrs. Clinton sings the
praises of the French child-care system. Whether she still holds these
views is impossible to tell, as she has been stripping herself of her
husband's positions the way her husband might strip off his pants at
the intern pool.
But assuming she does, here is what she thinks. The French are great
because they spend a billion-zillion francs (which should be about
$38.95 but is actually quite a bit of schmundo) on day care for their
children. Now she's too smart to say we should do precisely what the
French do. "France is a country far smaller and more homogeneous than
ours."
This is an important point because the French are surely quite
Francophillic in the way they raise their oui-ones (Get it? Get it?).
The French taught children in their colonies in Africa that they were
the descendants of the Gauls. The French start really early with the
"France is great" stuff. Look at the fights we have today over such
things as school prayer and high-school curricula. Would you want the
Clintons and the Children's Defense Fund being the people in charge of
imprinting values on your three-year-olds? It cuts both ways; imagine
the howling from the Left if conservatives ran the show. "Yes, Billy
that's an American flag, you should love it and honor it."
That's fascism according to the Dershowitz crowd.
So Hillary heads off that pesky "values" issue which would likely
come up. Instead, she says "What I do believe, however, is that the
French have found a way of expressing their love and concern through
policies that focus on children's needs during the earliest stages of
life." Well, that's awfully sweet. Government as an instrument of
love! You see, this isn't an issue of politics, it's an issue about
children and our love for them. Cue the Disney butterflies and snuggly
little bunnies!
If the Right would just lay down their guns and accept a huge
government-run and government-valued child-care system, our children
would prosper -- even the children of right wingers (as surely we
would educate them out of their intolerance).
"How can you transcend your political differences and come to an
agreement on the issue of government-subsidized child care?" Hillary
asked of her French hosts when she was over there. "One after another
of them looked at me in astonishment. 'How can you not invest in
children and expect to have a healthy country?' was the reply I heard
over and over again."
Ohhhhhhhhhh. The French were astonished. The French were astonished.
Well, no wonder Hillary is convinced.
First of all, when did we get to stipulate that France was so
healthy? How do we define health? Mental health? No, that can't be it
-- Jerry Lewis, and all that. Physical health? Okay, so they have the
slightest of edges on us in life expectancy.
But that can't be the answer. She must be talking about political
health. Because in a mature, politically healthy society, people don't
question the role of government. It's like the role of fire and
toilets and shredders at the Rose Law Firm -- they're just there and
should be used as often as necessary or possible.
Let's also not forget that the French practice what the demographers
call pro-natalist policies. In other words, the French need to
encourage people to make more babies, because European birth rates are
in the tank and, unlike in the U.S., we don't mind (as much)
maintaining our population through immigration. Anti-immigrant
feelings are just one of the enlightened reasons the government makes
parenthood as painless as possible.
French "astonishment" has less to do with the fact that their
policies are better as much as it has to do with the fact that the
French can't stand Americans. The French are also astonished by the
fact that Americans: bathe every day, don't know diddly about the
U.N., don't want the government to raise their kids, don't think of
France as an equal great power, don't think it's a sign of national
greatness to subsidize the bulk of Africa's corrupt bureaucrats, think
it's an odd idea to spend tax dollars on a film industry dedicated to
the notion that chance encounters in used-book stores make for great
drama, and think that their national leaders shouldn't be canoodling
the help while they impose sexual-harassment laws on the rest of us.
Our idea of political health is to keep politics out of as many
spheres of human life as possible. "Consensus" on children's issues,
like with so many other things in today's political arguments, means
simply "capitulation" to the mature politics people like Hillary
Clinton admire.
Ken (NY)
Chairman,
Department Of Redundancy Department
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"Eventually, socialists run out of other people's money."
--Baroness Margaret Thatcher
"This time I think the Americans are serious.
Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is
the end."
--Uday Hussein's final words,
in The London Sunday Telegraph
Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
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| User: "Daniel" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
12 Sep 2003 10:13:14 PM |
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"xanadoo" <citizen@someplace.net> wrote in message
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the least the French system could teach is NOT to be fanatic and stupid
flag-lickers, and to avoid eating franks and having 60% overweighted...
disgusting american fatasses, beurk !!!
And you claim the Yanks are uneducated? Overweighted is not a word.
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| User: "Malev" |
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| Title: Re: THE FRENCH, THEY ARE DIFFERENT |
09 Sep 2003 04:41:36 AM |
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:43:41 GMT, "xanadoo" <citizen@someplace.net>
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<snip - 116 lines quoted below top post and crossposted in 9 NGs.>
How clever
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