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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"Ubiquitous" |
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13 Jul 2007 09:18:40 PM |
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The Gay Debate |
"Most of the major Democratic presidential contenders will participate in a
forum on gay issues next month, co-sponsored by a major gay rights advocacy
group and a cable channel aimed at gays and lesbians," the Associated Press
reports:
Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards and Chris
Dodd have agreed to appear in the live, one-hour forum in Los
Angeles on Aug. 9. The program is the result of a joint effort
by the Human Rights Campaign and the LOGO cable channel, which
will broadcast the event. LOGO will also stream the forum live
on its Web site.
There is a potential peril to the Democrats in such narrowcasting, though. As
we noted in 2004, John Kerry, in his convention speech, felt constrained to
refer to his opposition to the Federal Marriage Amendment only in code,
exhorting President Bush: "Let's never misuse for political purposes the most
precious document in American history, the Constitution of the United States."
Those who follow the same-sex marriage issue closely knew what he meant, but
he probably figured that if he made his opposition explicit, it would cost him
votes among those who don't. Candidates may be less inhibited when speaking to
a gay audience--but you can expect opposition researchers will be watching
too.
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| User: "MonkeyHawk" |
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| Title: Re: The Gay Debate |
15 Jul 2007 09:30:16 AM |
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"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote ...
[snip]
...Candidates may be less inhibited when speaking to
a gay audience--but you can expect opposition researchers will be watching
too.
It's rapidly becoming a non-issue, except for the rabidly twice-born. And
evangelicals are losing their clout and credibility even in the Republic
Party primary race. Rudy Giuliani's three wives, Mitt Romney's Mormonism,
John McCain's meltdown...all have translated to no signfigicant support for
Huckabee or Brownback, the presumed darlings of the Religious Wrong.
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| User: "Steven L." |
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| Title: Re: The Gay Debate |
15 Jul 2007 12:01:14 PM |
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MonkeyHawk wrote:
"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote ...
[snip]
...Candidates may be less inhibited when speaking to
a gay audience--but you can expect opposition researchers will be watching
too.
It's rapidly becoming a non-issue, except for the rabidly twice-born. And
evangelicals are losing their clout and credibility even in the Republic
Party primary race. Rudy Giuliani's three wives, Mitt Romney's Mormonism,
John McCain's meltdown...
Giuliani also supports civil unions for gays (though he stops short at
full civil marriage). And he's not calling for overturning Roe v. Wade
either. So that also lessens the distinction between the GOP and the
Democratic Party.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| User: "Governor Swill" |
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| Title: Re: The Gay Debate |
15 Jul 2007 12:00:19 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:30:16 -0500, "MonkeyHawk" <monkeyhawk@cox.net>
wrote:
...Candidates may be less inhibited when speaking to
a gay audience--but you can expect opposition researchers will be watching
too.
It's rapidly becoming a non-issue, except for the rabidly twice-born. And
evangelicals are losing their clout and credibility even in the Republic
Party primary race. Rudy Giuliani's three wives, Mitt Romney's Mormonism,
John McCain's meltdown...all have translated to no signfigicant support for
Huckabee or Brownback, the presumed darlings of the Religious Wrong.
Cleverly put. Throw in the Dems offering the olive branch on social
issues in general and abortion in particular and recent decades which
have shown the Democrats are willing and able to balance the budget
(and execute other conservative tasks) and the motivation to vote
rabidly right begins to weaken.
Swill
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Picture of the day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The Gay Debate |
16 Jul 2007 08:41:18 AM |
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On Jul 15, 1:00 pm, Governor Swill <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:30:16 -0500, "MonkeyHawk" <monkeyh...@cox.net>
wrote:
...Candidates may be less inhibited when speaking to
a gay audience--but you can expect opposition researchers will be watching
too.
It's rapidly becoming a non-issue, except for the rabidly twice-born. And
evangelicals are losing their clout and credibility even in the Republic
Party primary race. Rudy Giuliani's three wives, Mitt Romney's Mormonism,
John McCain's meltdown...all have translated to no signfigicant support for
Huckabee or Brownback, the presumed darlings of the Religious Wrong.
Cleverly put. Throw in the Dems offering the olive branch on social
issues in general and abortion in particular and recent decades which
have shown the Democrats are willing and able to balance the budget
(and execute other conservative tasks) and the motivation to vote
rabidly right begins to weaken.
Note too that the GOP's congressional approval ratings are 10 points
lower than the Dems (21 vs. 31). It's an indicator that overall, it's
not that the Dems are too LEFT but rather not left enough. Their
failure to distinguish themselves the last 9 months from the GOP,
basically allowing DC to continue as business as usual rather than
effect change, and it's probably a good thing if Dems distinguish
themselves as more left and not as given to special-interest groups,
like the war machine and religious right that have been pulling the
GOP strings.
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