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Object: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004
You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side is
the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and on
the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war hero
General Wesley Clark.
This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come to
light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is what
they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along with
the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact that
Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in the
National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and his
flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was with
the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not even
one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs and
their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with their
compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest of
us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and patriotic
Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the real
thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is not
accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits, and
was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan decision
from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time of
our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the Republicans
have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757
"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise can
never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":
CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)
Educate yourself and go to these links:
http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com
.

User: "Angelo"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 24 Sep 2003 02:55:57 AM
Damn, Dummycrats must be scared shitless that Bush will be
re-elected. Just watch their rhetoric drivel climb to new
whining lengths.
Jim
<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side is
the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and on
the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war hero
General Wesley Clark.

This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come to
light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is what
they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along with
the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact that
Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in the
National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and his
flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was with
the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not even
one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs and
their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with their
compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest of
us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and patriotic
Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the real
thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is not
accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits, and
was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan decision
from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time of
our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the Republicans
have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise can
never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com

.
User: "Raphael"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 24 Sep 2003 03:52:37 AM
You say that with such certainty but most (real) political analysts don't
believe it's a sure thing. Domestic support is dwindling like crazy. As of
9/22, he only has a 50% approval rating. Last month his approval rating was
at 59%. In April, it was 71%. Per CNN, he is about neck and neck with the
five major democratic contenders (Clark being one of them).
There is no logical reason that tells us his approval rating will not go any
lower. In fact, the trend tells us it will. Barring the capture of Osama,
I think Bush's chances of relection will be less than 50/50 nearing election
time.
-Raphael
"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h6ccb.670$5z.460@twister.socal.rr.com...

Damn, Dummycrats must be scared shitless that Bush will be
re-elected. Just watch their rhetoric drivel climb to new
whining lengths.

Jim

<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side is
the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and on
the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war hero
General Wesley Clark.

This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come to
light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is what
they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along with
the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact that
Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in the
National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and his
flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was with
the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not even
one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs and
their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with their
compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest of
us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and patriotic
Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the real
thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is not
accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits, and
was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan decision
from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time of
our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the Republicans
have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise can
never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com



.
User: "Angelo"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 26 Sep 2003 03:56:50 AM
Are you a "betting man"?
Forget all the smootzy crap.
Republican ticket------President George W. Bush
Democratic ticket-------X+X+X+X+X
You figure the point spread! ;-)
Also don't forget what some unknown from Arkansas pulled off.
Jim
"Raphael" <rhv_22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oXccb.561066$YN5.386698@sccrnsc01...

You say that with such certainty but most (real) political analysts don't
believe it's a sure thing. Domestic support is dwindling like crazy. As

of

9/22, he only has a 50% approval rating. Last month his approval rating

was

at 59%. In April, it was 71%. Per CNN, he is about neck and neck with

the

five major democratic contenders (Clark being one of them).

There is no logical reason that tells us his approval rating will not go

any

lower. In fact, the trend tells us it will. Barring the capture of

Osama,

I think Bush's chances of relection will be less than 50/50 nearing

election

time.

-Raphael


"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h6ccb.670$5z.460@twister.socal.rr.com...

Damn, Dummycrats must be scared shitless that Bush will be
re-elected. Just watch their rhetoric drivel climb to new
whining lengths.

Jim

<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side

is

the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and

on

the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war

hero

General Wesley Clark.

This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come

to

light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is

what

they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along

with

the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact

that

Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in

the

National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and

his

flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was

with

the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not

even

one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs

and

their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with

their

compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest

of

us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and

patriotic

Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the

real

thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is

not

accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits,

and

was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan

decision

from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time

of

our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the

Republicans

have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise

can

never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com





.
User: "JFM"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 26 Sep 2003 02:06:40 PM
Keep up the defense, Jim and others! The GOP are putting out the
best smear campaign money can buy...the General is in dager from
ordinary Americans buying their crap.
From a Madison Capital Times editorial, 7/17/03:
http://www.madison.com/captimes/opinion/editorial/53003.php
Bush's buck stops there
Harry Truman had a sign on his desk in the Oval Office that read, "The
buck stops here."
It was Truman's way of saying that, as president, he took
responsibility for missteps by his administration.
George W. Bush has no such sign on his desk.
And we know why:
Bush is unwilling to take responsibility even for his own mistakes,
let alone his administration's.
Witness the current chief executive's handling of discredited claims
about supposed attempts by Iraq to purchase uranium from the African
nation of Niger.
Despite the fact that U.S. intelligence services had established early
in 2002 that the claims lacked credibility, Bush included them in his
Jan. 28, 2003, State of the Union address.
Most Americans would expect a president who was trying to make the
case for invading a distant land to carefully weigh every word.
But Bush did not bother to learn the basics about what he was saying,
and he did not bother to ask questions about information that, just a
few days later, his own secretary of state, Colin Powell, would reject
as unreliable.
With the lives of young Americans, as well as combatants from allied
countries and Iraqi civilians and soldiers at stake, Bush did not
bother to practice due diligence.
Rather than worry about getting things right, he was, in the words of
a top aide, determined "to rally the country for war."
Now, as we learn how Bush let the country down, he is not man enough
to take responsibility and admit his error.
Instead, he tried to point the finger of blame everywhere but the Oval
Office.
Finally, he settled on the Central Intelligence Agency, where director
George J. Tenet dutifully fell on his sword.
While there is no evidence to suggest that Tenet personally reviewed
or approved the president's remarks, Tenet declared, "I am responsible
.... "
Some will suggest that Tenet is an honorable man for covering for his
president.
But there is no honor in taking the blame for misdeeds in which you
did not participate - and that most evidence suggests he and his aides
sought to prevent.
Tenet is not acting as a servant of the American people or a defender
of the public trust; he is acting as a political partisan in an effort
to make a scandal go away for the Bush administration.
And there is good reason to believe that Tenet has failed to tell the
whole truth.
According to reports published in the New York Times, when an aide
with Bush's National Security Council contacted a CIA proliferation
expert to discuss inclusion of the African uranium reference in the
State of the Union address, the CIA man informed the Bush aide that
the agency was not sure that the claim was correct.
When the Bush aide tried to justify inclusion of the claim by noting
that the British had produced a report referencing an Iraq-African
uranium connection, the CIA man explained that his agency had already
told the British it was uncomfortable with the claim.
This sounds a lot more like the truth than the too-carefully chosen
words from the mouths of George Bush and George Tenet.
If George Bush was an honorable man, he would say he was wrong.
If George Tenet was an honorable man, he would tell the truth.
But that would require him to detail how his agency tried to prevent
the Bush administration from peddling discredited information to the
American people.
But there is no honor among politicians who, in their determination to
prevent the truth from coming out, will bend the facts to the breaking
point.
That's what George W. Bush did on Jan. 28, when he delivered his
factually inaccurate State of the Union address.
And that's what George Tenet did when he tried to cover for his boss.
______________________________________________________
"A lot of us grew up during a time when the culture said, if it feels
good, just go ahead and do it, and if you've got a problem, blame
somebody else. I believe this nation is now on the cusp of welcoming
in a period of personal responsibility, a responsibility era -- an era
which says each of us are responsible for the decisions we make in
life."
Georgie W. Dumwit - Feb. 27, 2002
"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:<mbTcb.10369$T46.7295@twister.socal.rr.com>...

Are you a "betting man"?
Forget all the smootzy crap.
Republican ticket------President George W. Bush
Democratic ticket-------X+X+X+X+X

You figure the point spread! ;-)
Also don't forget what some unknown from Arkansas pulled off.

Jim

"Raphael" <rhv_22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oXccb.561066$YN5.386698@sccrnsc01...

You say that with such certainty but most (real) political analysts don't
believe it's a sure thing. Domestic support is dwindling like crazy. As

of

9/22, he only has a 50% approval rating. Last month his approval rating

was

at 59%. In April, it was 71%. Per CNN, he is about neck and neck with

the

five major democratic contenders (Clark being one of them).

There is no logical reason that tells us his approval rating will not go

any

lower. In fact, the trend tells us it will. Barring the capture of

Osama,

I think Bush's chances of relection will be less than 50/50 nearing

election

time.

-Raphael


"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h6ccb.670$5z.460@twister.socal.rr.com...

Damn, Dummycrats must be scared shitless that Bush will be
re-elected. Just watch their rhetoric drivel climb to new
whining lengths.

Jim

<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side

is

the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and

on

the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war

hero

General Wesley Clark.

This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come

to

light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is

what

they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along

with

the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact

that

Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in

the

National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and

his

flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was

with

the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not

even

one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs

and

their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with

their

compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest

of

us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and

patriotic

Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the

real

thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is

not

accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits,

and

was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan

decision

from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time

of

our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the

Republicans

have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise

can

never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com





.
User: "Bryan"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 26 Sep 2003 06:28:24 PM
Oh, another "vast right-wing conspiracy", is it?
JFM wrote:

Keep up the defense, Jim and others! The GOP are putting out the
best smear campaign money can buy...the General is in dager from
ordinary Americans buying their crap.


From a Madison Capital Times editorial, 7/17/03:
http://www.madison.com/captimes/opinion/editorial/53003.php

Bush's buck stops there


Harry Truman had a sign on his desk in the Oval Office that read, "The
buck stops here."

It was Truman's way of saying that, as president, he took
responsibility for missteps by his administration.

George W. Bush has no such sign on his desk.

And we know why:

Bush is unwilling to take responsibility even for his own mistakes,
let alone his administration's.

Witness the current chief executive's handling of discredited claims
about supposed attempts by Iraq to purchase uranium from the African
nation of Niger.

Despite the fact that U.S. intelligence services had established early
in 2002 that the claims lacked credibility, Bush included them in his
Jan. 28, 2003, State of the Union address.

Most Americans would expect a president who was trying to make the
case for invading a distant land to carefully weigh every word.

But Bush did not bother to learn the basics about what he was saying,
and he did not bother to ask questions about information that, just a
few days later, his own secretary of state, Colin Powell, would reject
as unreliable.

With the lives of young Americans, as well as combatants from allied
countries and Iraqi civilians and soldiers at stake, Bush did not
bother to practice due diligence.

Rather than worry about getting things right, he was, in the words of
a top aide, determined "to rally the country for war."

Now, as we learn how Bush let the country down, he is not man enough
to take responsibility and admit his error.

Instead, he tried to point the finger of blame everywhere but the Oval
Office.

Finally, he settled on the Central Intelligence Agency, where director
George J. Tenet dutifully fell on his sword.

While there is no evidence to suggest that Tenet personally reviewed
or approved the president's remarks, Tenet declared, "I am responsible
... "

Some will suggest that Tenet is an honorable man for covering for his
president.

But there is no honor in taking the blame for misdeeds in which you
did not participate - and that most evidence suggests he and his aides
sought to prevent.

Tenet is not acting as a servant of the American people or a defender
of the public trust; he is acting as a political partisan in an effort
to make a scandal go away for the Bush administration.

And there is good reason to believe that Tenet has failed to tell the
whole truth.

According to reports published in the New York Times, when an aide
with Bush's National Security Council contacted a CIA proliferation
expert to discuss inclusion of the African uranium reference in the
State of the Union address, the CIA man informed the Bush aide that
the agency was not sure that the claim was correct.

When the Bush aide tried to justify inclusion of the claim by noting
that the British had produced a report referencing an Iraq-African
uranium connection, the CIA man explained that his agency had already
told the British it was uncomfortable with the claim.

This sounds a lot more like the truth than the too-carefully chosen
words from the mouths of George Bush and George Tenet.

If George Bush was an honorable man, he would say he was wrong.

If George Tenet was an honorable man, he would tell the truth.

But that would require him to detail how his agency tried to prevent
the Bush administration from peddling discredited information to the
American people.

But there is no honor among politicians who, in their determination to
prevent the truth from coming out, will bend the facts to the breaking
point.

That's what George W. Bush did on Jan. 28, when he delivered his
factually inaccurate State of the Union address.

And that's what George Tenet did when he tried to cover for his boss.

______________________________________________________

"A lot of us grew up during a time when the culture said, if it feels
good, just go ahead and do it, and if you've got a problem, blame
somebody else. I believe this nation is now on the cusp of welcoming
in a period of personal responsibility, a responsibility era -- an era
which says each of us are responsible for the decisions we make in
life."

Georgie W. Dumwit - Feb. 27, 2002


"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:<mbTcb.10369$T46.7295@twister.socal.rr.com>...


Are you a "betting man"?
Forget all the smootzy crap.
Republican ticket------President George W. Bush
Democratic ticket-------X+X+X+X+X

You figure the point spread! ;-)
Also don't forget what some unknown from Arkansas pulled off.

Jim

"Raphael" <rhv_22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oXccb.561066$YN5.386698@sccrnsc01...


You say that with such certainty but most (real) political analysts don't
believe it's a sure thing. Domestic support is dwindling like crazy. As


of


9/22, he only has a 50% approval rating. Last month his approval rating


was


at 59%. In April, it was 71%. Per CNN, he is about neck and neck with


the


five major democratic contenders (Clark being one of them).

There is no logical reason that tells us his approval rating will not go


any


lower. In fact, the trend tells us it will. Barring the capture of


Osama,


I think Bush's chances of relection will be less than 50/50 nearing


election


time.

-Raphael


"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h6ccb.670$5z.460@twister.socal.rr.com...


Damn, Dummycrats must be scared shitless that Bush will be
re-elected. Just watch their rhetoric drivel climb to new
whining lengths.

Jim

<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...


You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side


is


the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and


on


the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war


hero


General Wesley Clark.

This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come


to


light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is


what


they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along


with


the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact


that


Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in


the


National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and


his


flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was


with


the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not


even


one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs


and


their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with


their


compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest


of


us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and


patriotic


Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the


real


thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is


not


accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits,


and


was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan


decision


from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time


of


our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the


Republicans


have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise


can


never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com







.
User: "Angelo"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 08 Oct 2003 04:46:45 AM
It must be! I have my button and everything.
Jim
"Latest member of the VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY" tm
"Bryan" <Bryan@news.net> wrote in message
news:sY3db.343965$2x.106123@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...

Oh, another "vast right-wing conspiracy", is it?



JFM wrote:

Keep up the defense, Jim and others! The GOP are putting out the
best smear campaign money can buy...the General is in dager from
ordinary Americans buying their crap.


From a Madison Capital Times editorial, 7/17/03:
http://www.madison.com/captimes/opinion/editorial/53003.php

Bush's buck stops there


Harry Truman had a sign on his desk in the Oval Office that read, "The
buck stops here."

It was Truman's way of saying that, as president, he took
responsibility for missteps by his administration.

George W. Bush has no such sign on his desk.

And we know why:

Bush is unwilling to take responsibility even for his own mistakes,
let alone his administration's.

Witness the current chief executive's handling of discredited claims
about supposed attempts by Iraq to purchase uranium from the African
nation of Niger.

Despite the fact that U.S. intelligence services had established early
in 2002 that the claims lacked credibility, Bush included them in his
Jan. 28, 2003, State of the Union address.

Most Americans would expect a president who was trying to make the
case for invading a distant land to carefully weigh every word.

But Bush did not bother to learn the basics about what he was saying,
and he did not bother to ask questions about information that, just a
few days later, his own secretary of state, Colin Powell, would reject
as unreliable.

With the lives of young Americans, as well as combatants from allied
countries and Iraqi civilians and soldiers at stake, Bush did not
bother to practice due diligence.

Rather than worry about getting things right, he was, in the words of
a top aide, determined "to rally the country for war."

Now, as we learn how Bush let the country down, he is not man enough
to take responsibility and admit his error.

Instead, he tried to point the finger of blame everywhere but the Oval
Office.

Finally, he settled on the Central Intelligence Agency, where director
George J. Tenet dutifully fell on his sword.

While there is no evidence to suggest that Tenet personally reviewed
or approved the president's remarks, Tenet declared, "I am responsible
... "

Some will suggest that Tenet is an honorable man for covering for his
president.

But there is no honor in taking the blame for misdeeds in which you
did not participate - and that most evidence suggests he and his aides
sought to prevent.

Tenet is not acting as a servant of the American people or a defender
of the public trust; he is acting as a political partisan in an effort
to make a scandal go away for the Bush administration.

And there is good reason to believe that Tenet has failed to tell the
whole truth.

According to reports published in the New York Times, when an aide
with Bush's National Security Council contacted a CIA proliferation
expert to discuss inclusion of the African uranium reference in the
State of the Union address, the CIA man informed the Bush aide that
the agency was not sure that the claim was correct.

When the Bush aide tried to justify inclusion of the claim by noting
that the British had produced a report referencing an Iraq-African
uranium connection, the CIA man explained that his agency had already
told the British it was uncomfortable with the claim.

This sounds a lot more like the truth than the too-carefully chosen
words from the mouths of George Bush and George Tenet.

If George Bush was an honorable man, he would say he was wrong.

If George Tenet was an honorable man, he would tell the truth.

But that would require him to detail how his agency tried to prevent
the Bush administration from peddling discredited information to the
American people.

But there is no honor among politicians who, in their determination to
prevent the truth from coming out, will bend the facts to the breaking
point.

That's what George W. Bush did on Jan. 28, when he delivered his
factually inaccurate State of the Union address.

And that's what George Tenet did when he tried to cover for his boss.

______________________________________________________

"A lot of us grew up during a time when the culture said, if it feels
good, just go ahead and do it, and if you've got a problem, blame
somebody else. I believe this nation is now on the cusp of welcoming
in a period of personal responsibility, a responsibility era -- an era
which says each of us are responsible for the decisions we make in
life."

Georgie W. Dumwit - Feb. 27, 2002


"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message

news:<mbTcb.10369$T46.7295@twister.socal.rr.com>...



Are you a "betting man"?
Forget all the smootzy crap.
Republican ticket------President George W. Bush
Democratic ticket-------X+X+X+X+X

You figure the point spread! ;-)
Also don't forget what some unknown from Arkansas pulled off.

Jim

"Raphael" <rhv_22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oXccb.561066$YN5.386698@sccrnsc01...


You say that with such certainty but most (real) political analysts

don't

believe it's a sure thing. Domestic support is dwindling like crazy.

As



of


9/22, he only has a 50% approval rating. Last month his approval

rating



was


at 59%. In April, it was 71%. Per CNN, he is about neck and neck with


the


five major democratic contenders (Clark being one of them).

There is no logical reason that tells us his approval rating will not

go



any


lower. In fact, the trend tells us it will. Barring the capture of


Osama,


I think Bush's chances of relection will be less than 50/50 nearing


election


time.

-Raphael


"Angelo" <angelovigAT@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h6ccb.670$5z.460@twister.socal.rr.com...


Damn, Dummycrats must be scared shitless that Bush will be
re-elected. Just watch their rhetoric drivel climb to new
whining lengths.

Jim

<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...


You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side


is


the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and


on


the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war


hero


General Wesley Clark.

This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come


to


light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is


what


they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along


with


the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact


that


Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in


the


National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and


his


flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was


with


the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will

not

be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials

consist

of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not


even


one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working

overtime

to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs


and


their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next

few

months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with


their


compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest


of


us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and


patriotic


Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the


real


thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass

with

which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is


not


accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits,


and


was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan


decision


from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression.

And

Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety,

is

exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time


of


our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the


Republicans


have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise


can


never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com








.

User: ""

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 26 Sep 2003 10:42:42 PM
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:28:24 GMT, Bryan <Bryan@news.net> wrote:

Oh, another "vast right-wing conspiracy", is it?

yeah but it won't work
Ha hahhaahaha.
_______
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public."
-President Teddy Roosevelt
.


User: ""

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 26 Sep 2003 04:17:48 PM
On 26 Sep 2003 12:06:40 -0700,
(JFM)
wrote:

Keep up the defense, Jim and others! The GOP are putting out the
best smear campaign money can buy...the General is in dager from
ordinary Americans buying their crap.

Inert ***** klaxon here:
AAAHH---OOO---GAAGHH...AAAHH---OOO---GAAGHH
NOW HEAR THIS:
Retired General H. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
on 9/11, shared his recollection of that day and his views of the war
against terrorism with the Foothill College Celebrity Forum audience
at Flint Center, Sept. 11 and 12.
His review of that historic event and his 38 years in the military
kept the audience's rapt attention throughout. But it was his answer
to a question from the audience at the end that shocked his listeners.
"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him
as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator
***** Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each
other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I
noticed you took a drink on that one!"
"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known
Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe
early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are
very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a
Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."
__________________________________-
Actually, if you weren't so close-minded and full of hate you'd know
there are serious questions about Clark's performance as head of NATO
to the point where a Brit General refused an order by Clark to
confront Russian troops at a Kosovo airport, telling Clark, "I will
not help you start World War III."
There are similar facts about Clark's stepping on and over his
subordinates and fellow officers to achieve his own ambitions. He
apparently is simply not a nice man. And, he will never be President.
Have a nice day!!
Cheerio,
Dennis, Proud America-Loving Fair and Balanced NEOCON, Irish/English
(A WHOLE LOT OF LEFTIST NONSENSE SNIPPED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF US ALL)
.





User: "Eugene Kent"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 23 Sep 2003 01:42:32 PM
I wonder what motivates you idiots.
Why do you believe that the right wing will vote for a left wing chicken
hawk when they have super chicken hawk Powell? The big time rapper of
Afghanistan and Iraq.
Us lefties being peace niks don't curry favor from the military. We intend
to slash their budget till they scream uncle.
<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side is
the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and on
the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war hero
General Wesley Clark.
This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come to
light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is what
they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along with
the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact that
Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in the
National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and his
flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was with
the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not even
one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs and
their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with their
compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest of
us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and patriotic
Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the real
thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is not
accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits, and
was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan decision
from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time of
our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the Republicans
have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise can
never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com

.

User: ""

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 23 Sep 2003 08:29:56 AM
This is addressed to adults?
<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side is
the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and on
the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war hero
General Wesley Clark.
This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come to
light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is what
they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along with
the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact that
Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in the
National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and his
flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was with
the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not even
one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs and
their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with their
compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest of
us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and patriotic
Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the real
thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is not
accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits, and
was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan decision
from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time of
our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the Republicans
have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise can
never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com

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User: "Billary"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 23 Sep 2003 08:57:44 AM
This is your typical left wing radical speaking. Unfortunately they are the
ones who run the Democratic party. That's why I'm not a democrat anymore.
I got tired of their lies and childishness.
<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:oVXbb.14243$KJ5.8401@fe2.columbus.rr.com...

This is addressed to adults?
<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side is
the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and on
the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war hero
General Wesley Clark.
This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come to
light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is what
they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along with
the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact that
Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in the
National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and his
flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was with
the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not even
one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs and
their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with their
compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest of
us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and patriotic
Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the real
thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is not
accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits, and
was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan decision
from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time of
our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the Republicans
have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise can
never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com




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User: "Eugene Kent"

Title: Re: The General vs. The Chickenhawk. A Clear Choice in 2004 23 Sep 2003 01:43:53 PM
A typical right wing remark.
"Billary" <Billary@vastrightwingconspiracy.org> wrote in message
news:sjYbb.6697$eS5.2035@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

This is your typical left wing radical speaking. Unfortunately they are

the

ones who run the Democratic party. That's why I'm not a democrat anymore.
I got tired of their lies and childishness.


<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:oVXbb.14243$KJ5.8401@fe2.columbus.rr.com...

This is addressed to adults?
<AbelMalcolm@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22895-3F6FF52C-586@storefull-2174.public.lawson.webtv.net...

You can thank us Democrats, because In 2004, we will give you, the
American electorate, a clear choice of candidates.... on the one side

is

the dimwitted AWOL Bush, and his ChickenHawk phony machismo act, and

on

the other side is the highly decorated and eminently qualified war

hero

General Wesley Clark.
This has been the single biggest fear of the GOP strategists from day
one, those who have been managing the Bush campaign. It has now come

to

light, and they are pulling out their hairs by the roots, yelling
hysterically and bouncing upside down from their ceilings. This is

what

they are doing. You can almost feel sorry for them, but don't.

To build Bush's false machismo image, it took a marketing genius like
Karl Rove to think of dressing the chimp up in a flight suit, along

with

the help of a fawning media, combined together to cover up the fact

that

Bush was AWOL and neglected his fighter pilot duties when he was in

the

National Guard.

Bush's machismo and his credibility have already been debunked, and

his

flight suit has already been exposed as the false prop that it was

with

the continuous daily American body count coming out of Iraq.

It's getting so obvious now, that even the right winged media will not
be able to help but compare Bush's phoniness to the genuine American
hero that General Wesley Clark is. His incredible credentials consist
of him being a West Point graduate who not only was decorated in
Vietnam, but he also led a successful war in the Balkans where not

even

one American died there.

Aside from losing their minds in hopeless anguish and working overtime
to try to find dirt on General Wesley Clark, the ChickenHawk Repugs

and

their guru Karl Rove will have to concoct many many more such Top Gun
photo-ops to persuade voters that Bush is the right man for these
dangerous times.

No matter how many lies they try to inundate us with over the next few
months, no matter how skillfully they spin their lies, along with

their

compliant fascistic media, it will still be amply obvious to the rest

of

us, amply obvious to most of us thinking, well-intentioned and

patriotic

Americans, that General Wesley Clark's military credentials are the

real

thing, but Bush's aren't.

Unlike Bush, General Wesley Clark is brilliant, honest, good-looking,
articulate, and he retains a very clear and obvious moral compass with
which to guide the country with.

General Wesley Clark is very accomplished and very much capable of
winning the 2004 election, based on his merits. Unlike Bush, who is

not

accomplished at all, didn't win the last election on his own merits,

and

was only installed to be the dictator, based on a very partisan

decision

from the Supreme Court.

Bush's incompetent leadership has cause America to lose millions of
jobs, something that has not happened since the Great Depression. And
Bush, as represented by the typical Republican ChickenHawk variety, is
exactly the OPPOSITE of what our country needs at this point in time

of

our history. On the other hand, General Wesley Clark is just EXACTLY
what our country needs, RIGHT NOW, he comes at just the right time to
serve the country, and to cut off the unfair stereotype that has
portrayed us Democrats as wimps, it's a stereotype that the

Republicans

have created.

Abel Malcolm

Please see: http://www.clark04.com/ &
http://www.nato.int/cv/saceur/clark.htm &
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MZZ72757

"He who is really kind can never be unhappy. He who is really wise

can

never be confused. He who is really brave can never be afraid":

CONFUCIUS (6th century Philosopher & Political Theorist)

Educate yourself and go to these links:

http://www.buzzflash.com & http://www.moveon.org &
http://www.veteransforpeace.org & http://www.salon.com &
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm &
http://www.barbrastreisand.com






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