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Date: 25 Feb 2006 08:13:19 PM
Object: THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT
I saw this on cable news and it's fascinating.
I watched the cable news segment as they traced the genetic line
of the news anchorman's lineage, with genetic marker stops in
various countries and regions, from the source in Africa 60,000
years ago, to today. It blows white supremacy away too. :-) We
all started in Africa!
If you have the money to spare you should do it:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0413_050413
_genographic.html
Global Gene Project to Trace Humanity's Migrations
Hillary Mayell for National Geographic News
April 13, 2005
New DNA studies suggest that all humans descended from a single
African ancestor who lived some 60,000 years ago. To uncover the
paths that lead from him to every living human, the National
Geographic Society today launched the Genographic Project at its
Washington, D.C., headquarters.
The project is a five-year endeavor undertaken as a partnership
between IBM and National Geographic. It will combine population
genetics and molecular biology to trace the migration of humans
from the time we first left Africa, 50,000 to 60,000 years ago,
to the places where we live today.
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Ten research centers around the world will receive funding from
the Waitt Family Foundation to collect and analyze blood samples
from indigenous populations (such as aboriginal groups), many in
remote areas. The Genographic Project hopes to collect more than
a hundred thousand DNA samples to create the largest gene bank in
the world. Members of the public are also being invited to
participate.
"Our DNA tells a fascinating story of the human journey: how we
are all related and how our ancestors got to where we are
today," said American geneticist and anthropologist Spencer
Wells, the project leader. "This project will show us some of the
routes early humans followed to populate the globe and paint a
picture of the genetic tapestry that connects us all."
Wells, a National Geographic explorer-in-residence, feels a
certain sense of urgency. Wars, environmental disasters, and
increasing globalization are causing more people to move, and the
world is gradually becoming less culturally and genetically
diverse.
"We need to take a genetic snapshot of who we are as a species
before the geographic and cultural context are lost in the
melting pot," Wells said. He cites language as a measure of the
disappearance of cultures. "There are around 6,000 languages
spoken in the world today, and by the end of the century, between
half and 90 percent of those are going to be gone."
IBM, as the technology partner of the project, will participate
in collecting the data, storing it, and analyzing it.
"We have some indications, from prior studies about the migration
of people, how the diversity and similarity that we see in
peoples of the world might have happened in the last 50,000 to
10,000 years," said Ajay Royyuru, a senior manager of IBM's
Computational Biology Center. "But what is missing is the detail,
the ability for everyone on the planet to be able to see,
understand, exactly how they got to be where they are."
Tracking Genetic Markers
Each human parent contributes half of a child's DNA, which
combines with the other parent's DNA to form a new genetic
combination. This so-called recombination gives each of us a
unique set of attributes: hair, eye, and skin color; athleticism
or lack thereof; susceptibility to certain diseases; and so on.
However, the chunk of DNA known as the y chromosome, which only
males possess, is passed from father to son without recombining.
The y chromosome, therefore, remains basically unchanged through
generations, except for random mutations. Similarly, women pass
mitochondrial DNA, which also does not recombine, on to both
their sons and daughters.
Random mutations to DNA, which happen naturally and are usually
harmless, are called markers. Once a marker has been identified,
geneticists can go back in time and trace it to the point at
which it first occurred. This way, they are able to determine
when and where a new lineage began.
If they can be traced to a particular region, these lineages can
be used to track prehistoric migration patterns. However,
indigenous identities are being lost as more and more people move
from their ancestral villages.
"And when they do [leave], their kids [absorb] the dominant
culture in that [new] city and lose touch with the old ways,"
Wells said. "So what we lose is the context in which their
genetic diversity arose. The genes are still going to be there,
but without the geographical context, we can't infer anything
historical from the genetic data."
Battur Tumer, a descendant of Genghis Khan and one of the
participants at the project launch today in Washington, D.C.,
exemplifies the importance of finding indigenous populations in
their ancestral lands.
Wells's team collected y chromosome data in a region of Asia once
ruled by the 13th-century Mongolian warrior. Their analysis
identified a marker that originated about a thousand years ago
and was carried by about 8 percent of the men living in the
region. The marker was found in only one population outside of
Asia—the Hazaras tribe in Pakistan. The Hazaras have a long oral
tradition that says they're Khan's direct descendants.
Tying the marker to a geographic location and looking at the
region's history—Genghis Khan's armies often raped the women of
vanquished villages, and his descendants later expanded the
empire—suggests that today roughly 16 million men carry a genetic
mutation that probably originated with Khan's great-great-
grandfather.
The spread of that particular mutation was the result of a
cultural artifact—military success combined with a culture in
which men could have many wives and concubines—but it exemplifies
much of the impetus of the Genographic Project.
"The shared marker was identified because a focused effort was
made to sample specific populations, going after populations like
the Hazara, who have this oral history and want to test it to see
if it's true," Wells said.
"In addition, the people in the region had lived there for
centuries, and enough samples were collected to do an analysis.
The indigenous groups participated because the wanted their
stories told."
Public Participation
The Genographic Project is designed to tell everyone's story,
though, not just the stories of indigenous cultures. What is
unique about this project is the extent to which it relies on
public participation.
"Most research happens through the hands of researchers, and the
public at large gets to hear about it and learn about it on
occasion, but there isn't a way for them to participate. This
project is actually inviting individuals all over the world to be
sort of associate researchers," Royyuru said. "Success is
actually going to be determined by how many and how diverse the
people are that participate, which is a fascinating thing."
The DNA data being collected places a person in a "haplogroup"—a
lineage or branch on the human family tree that is defined by a
set of genetic markers. Haplogroup R, for instance, is identified
by a y chromosome mutation known as M173. Roughly 70 percent of
English men have this lineage, 95 percent of Spanish men, and 95
percent of Irish men.
"The reason a lot of western Europeans have it is because it
defines an expansion in the end of the last ice age as people
moved north out of Iberia [ancient Spain]," Wells said. "The cool
thing is that the penultimate marker—if you go back one step from
M173—is M45, which arose in Central Asia, so it tells you about
this journey your ancestors took through the steppes of Central
Asia hunting mammoths and so on. Before that they were down in
the Middle East."
The Middle Eastern marker, M89, represents a wave of migration
out of Africa that occurred around 45,000 years ago. The
Haplogroup R lineage ultimately traces all the way back to marker
M168.
"Every non-African has M168, which appeared in eastern Africa
around 60,000 years ago," Wells said.
"Some geographies have been better studied than others," Royyuru
said. "In Europe we have a much better understanding of the
genotypic diversity that exists and how that population happens
to be so diverse—who came from where at what point in time. That
is not the case with a large majority of Asia and Africa. There
is certainly some understanding of the possible waves of
migration and the routes that people might have traveled to
populate North and South America, but even those are not
definitive."
Should you want to get an idea of your own origins, National
Geographic is selling kits that allow an individual to take a
cheek swab, send it to a laboratory in Arizona, and then track
the information on the Genographic Project Web site.
The kits will sell for U.S. $99.95 plus shipping and handling.
The net proceeds from sales of the kits will fund additional
research and the Legacy Project, which will aid indigenous
cultures.
Legacy and Controversy
"The three main pillars of the project are field research, public
participation and communication, and the Legacy Project," Wells
said. "We see this as a collaborative effort with the indigenous
populations."
The Legacy Project will provide indigenous groups participating
in the Genographic Project with direct help through development
projects, education, and public-awareness campaigns aimed at
preserving traditional cultures.
The idea of creating the world's largest DNA database and
collecting blood samples from indigenous groups could raise
objections.
Genographic was specifically designed to dispel many of these
concerns. The kits are designed so that there's no way to tie a
kit's identification number to a specific individual.
Wells emphasizes the public nature of the project.
"We want this to be a very open project. We want to tell the
public what it is we're doing, the goals, the methods, and we
want to explain the results," Wells said. "We're not doing
anything medically relevant, not patenting anything," he added.
"We see this as information that's part of the [common heritage]
of our species. It's going to be released into the public domain,
and people can go back and reanalyze it and query it and learn
about it. We're hoping to create a virtual museum of human
history."
__________________
The project itself is at
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
.

User: "Ms Liberty"

Title: Re: THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT 25 Feb 2006 08:27:21 PM
Here's the transcript that I saw on CNN about the project. They
did the trace of Anderson Cooper's genetic ancestry and showed a
color chart flow map of where each ancestral link lived. It was
amazing.:
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/22/acd.01.html
COOPER: So where are you from? We've all heard that question
before, most times on vacation. And often, we simply give an
answer, our hometown, our state or our country. But that's just
one identity.
Take it a step further, and you're looking at ancestry. What
country or continent or families are from -- many of you know
little about it, really. But go a step further toward the origins
of humanity and, well, it gets a little hairy.
That's where "National Geographic" comes in. Next month, the
society's magazine focuses on the greatest journey ever told, the
trail of our DNA. "National Geographic" and IBM are working
together exploring that trail through an ambitious five-year
experiment called the Genographic Project, and they want your
help.
Here's an inside look at how it all works.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Genographic Project.
COOPER (voice over): In it sheer scale, it's an historic project.
In fact, it's meant to unlock the very secrets of history. Who
were your ancestors, where did we come from?
A team of genetic anthropologists from the National Geographic
Society, led by explore-in-residence Spencer Wells, took on the
massive task of collecting DNA samples from hundreds of thousands
of people around the world. And what they're finding may surprise
you.
It turns out...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're all a part of one big family. COOPER:
One big family that started with one father in Africa, perhaps as
long as 120,000 years ago.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your Y chromosome and his Y chromosome and his
Y chromosome, they've been here for 40,000 years.
COOPER: Here's how it works. The Genographic Project team is
taking samples from indigenous people across the globe. But you,
too, can become part of the study and learn about your own
history by requesting a kit online at a cost of $100.
We know about DNA and its role in solving criminal cases, but it
also holds the key to who we are and can provide a roadmap that
shows how hundreds, even thousands of the generations that came
before us moved out of Africa and populated the globe. They study
so-called markers in DNA samples. Those are the tiny changes that
occur in DNA over time. And they say those markers form a path
from our earlier ancestors to where we find ourselves today.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This man is a direct descendent of a person
who lived in central Asia about 35,000 to 40,000 years ago. And
his ancestor is also the ancestor of most Europeans and Native
Americans.
COOPER: The ancestor who they believe started the human race.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: As we said, the great thing about this project is that
anyone can take part in it. In fact, it's encouraged. I, myself,
sent in my own DNA sample several weeks ago. It cost $100. And
earlier today I discussed the results with Spencer Wells, author
of the book "The Journey of Man," which is the origin for this
study.
What we found was pretty fascinating. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: It's ironic that we're talking about this project now.
We've just came out of a story about white supremacists in the
United States.
What your project really shows is how we all come from the same
place.
SPENCER WELLS, EXPLORER IN RESIDENCE, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
SOCIETY: That's right. We're all effectively members of an
extended family. And the story of how we're related is written in
our DNA.
COOPER: And 99.9 percent of the human genome everybody shares as
the exact same?
WELLS: We're 99.9 percent identical at the genetic level. So,
it's only one in every thousand nucleotide base pairs, these
building blocks in your genome that differ between two unrelated
people.
COOPER: And the Genographic Project, what exactly is it? WELLS:
It is a concerted scientific effort over the next five years to
answer that key scientific or even human question, where do we
all come from? And we use DNA as a tool to do that.
COOPER: And it's basically -- I did this several weeks ago. It's
these little swabs here. And you basically...
WELLS: This is the public side of the project. So anybody around
the world can send off for one of these kits, go on to our Web
site, learn about the project and get their own DNA tested, yes.
COOPER: So it's $100 for the kit.
WELLS: That's right. That's right.
COOPER: And you basically take the swab...
WELLS: Yes.
COOPER: ... put it in your mouth, rub it against your gums.
WELLS: And we can tell you something about how your ancestors got
from where we originated as a species to wherever you're found
today.
COOPER: As I said, I did this several weeks ago. We have the
results.
What did you learn? Where did I come from?
WELLS: Well, you are a member of what we call a Hapler (ph)
group...
COOPER: I knew it.
WELLS: ... which is like an ancestral clan called R1A.
COOPER: R1A? What does that mean?
WELLS: This is -- you share a set of genetic markers with other
people, and that places you within this clan. But they also tell
a story of the journey of your ancestors from our common origin
in Africa to wherever your most recent family...
COOPER: So this map that we're showing is literally where my
ancestors -- how many years ago?
WELLS: That's right. So everybody originated in Africa. That's
very clear from looking at the DNA. And so you and I and
everybody else in the world originated in this part of Africa,
probably Eastern Africa, around 60,000 years ago. So this is the
common male ancestor of everybody alive today.
COOPER: And for the -- for the white supremacists who are
watching carry over from that last story, they are African.
WELLS: That's right.
COOPER: Fascinating.
WELLS: So we go back to this common Y chromosome ancestor in East
Africa around 60,000 years ago, and at some point the people who
didn't stay on in Africa started to leave that continent.
In the case of your ancestors, that was around 45,000 years ago.
COOPER: Man, that's incredible.
WELLS: They move up into the Middle East. You pick up an
additional marker we call M89. And these were hunters living on
the Savannas of Africa and on the grasslands in the Middle East.
And when they got into the Middle East, they could have turned
west into Europe. But they would have encountered the mountains
and the forests of the Balkans. It made more sense to turn east
and head towards Central Asia.
COOPER: So they went through Iran, Afghanistan...
WELLS: Absolutely, picking up additional markers. So it's like
notches on a belt.
COOPER: Hunting all along the way?
WELLS: Exactly. So hunting the big game on the steps.
And when they got into Central Asia, they bumped into these
mountain rangings, the Pamir Knot, the Hindu Kush coming off to
the west and the Himalayas to the east and Tajikistan (ph) going
off to the northeast. And that split the populations.
You had some moving down into India, some moving over into East
Asia. Your ancestors turned to the north, into the (INAUDIBLE),
if you will. Picked up an additional marker.
COOPER: Wow.
WELLS: And you share that marker with most men living in Western
Europe, but also most of the men living in the Americas. If you
see that tiny little arrow up to the right there, those people
later went off into the Americas.
COOPER: Oh, you're kidding. Really?
WELLS: Yes. Yes.
So your ancestors didn't. They turned to the left, to the west,
and moved into Europe. Picked up a marker we called M173.
These were the first modern humans to move into Europe. These
were the Cromagnum (ph), the people who drew the amazing, you
know, depictions in Shobe (ph) and Lesco caves and so on.
And when they got into Europe they encountered the Neanderthals.
The Neanderthals went extinct very quickly, but your ancestors
lived on. I'm a member of the lineage that's defined by M173, but
your ancestors picked up an additional marker. And that's what
places you in R1A.
R1A originated probably in southern Russia or Ukraine around
10,000 to 15,000 years ago, during the last ice age. And at the
end of the ice age, the population started to expand.
COOPER: And what's so exciting about this is people anywhere can
trace their origin all of the way back.
WELLS: Absolutely. The entire story. The entire story.
COOPER: How specific, though, and how recent can you get?
Because, I mean, you're talking about 45,000 years ago. I know I
had ancestors who were in England in the 1700s and were Dutch,
you know, in the 1600s.
WELLS: Well, the great thing about the project is that as time
goes on, as we collect more samples, the hundreds of thousands
we're hoping to sample over the next five years, the story is
going to get better and better. So keep checking back o the Web
site. Your DNA results won't change, but the interpretation will
get better.
COOPER: So the more people who send in their DNA...
WELLS: The better the story is going to get.
COOPER: That's incredible.
WELLS: Yes.
COOPER: And why is this important? Why does it matter?
WELLS: Well, in part, I think it's -- you know, it's answering
that deep question, where do we all come from. But as you said
earlier, it shows how closely related we all are. It connects
people up in a very tangible way using this genetic code that
you're carrying around in your pocket.
COOPER: And it's so simple, too. I mean, this is -- this
technology now, it's incredible that it's gotten to the point
where, you know, there's this mail order kit, you can just send
it in.
WELLS: I know. You know, it's a spin-off of the Human Genome
Project, if you will. And it's amazing to be able to apply these
tools to study, you know, deep mysteries about...
COOPER: How specific would you be able to get in the ideal world?
WELLS: In theory, you know, in your case, we might be able to
narrow it down to an ancestral village in a part of Europe in the
future. We don't know.
COOPER: That's incredible. It all depends on how many people...
WELLS: How many people participate, absolutely. COOPER: Wow.
Well, maybe come back in a couple of years and we'll see.
WELLS: Yes, I'd love to.
COOPER: Excellent. Thank you so much, Spencer.
WELLS: Thanks for having me on.
COOPER: Thanks.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
.

User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT 26 Feb 2006 12:11:35 AM
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:13:19 -0600, Ms Liberty <Ms-Liberty@free.usa>
wrote:

I saw this on cable news and it's fascinating.

I watched the cable news segment as they traced the genetic line
of the news anchorman's lineage, with genetic marker stops in
various countries and regions, from the source in Africa 60,000
years ago, to today. It blows white supremacy away too. :-) We
all started in Africa!

We're all African-Americans. Sweet. Where are my reparations?

If you have the money to spare you should do it:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/04/0413_050413
_genographic.html

Global Gene Project to Trace Humanity's Migrations
Hillary Mayell for National Geographic News
April 13, 2005

New DNA studies suggest that all humans descended from a single
African ancestor who lived some 60,000 years ago. To uncover the
paths that lead from him to every living human, the National
Geographic Society today launched the Genographic Project at its
Washington, D.C., headquarters.

The project is a five-year endeavor undertaken as a partnership
between IBM and National Geographic. It will combine population
genetics and molecular biology to trace the migration of humans
from the time we first left Africa, 50,000 to 60,000 years ago,
to the places where we live today.

Email to a Friend
RELATED

* Photo Gallery: Journey of Man
* Early Risers Have Mutated Gene, Study Says
* Study Offers New Insight Into Why Learning Disorders Are
Genetic
* Our Species Mated With Other Human Species, Study Says

Ten research centers around the world will receive funding from
the Waitt Family Foundation to collect and analyze blood samples
from indigenous populations (such as aboriginal groups), many in
remote areas. The Genographic Project hopes to collect more than
a hundred thousand DNA samples to create the largest gene bank in
the world. Members of the public are also being invited to
participate.

"Our DNA tells a fascinating story of the human journey: how we
are all related and how our ancestors got to where we are
today," said American geneticist and anthropologist Spencer
Wells, the project leader. "This project will show us some of the
routes early humans followed to populate the globe and paint a
picture of the genetic tapestry that connects us all."

Wells, a National Geographic explorer-in-residence, feels a
certain sense of urgency. Wars, environmental disasters, and
increasing globalization are causing more people to move, and the
world is gradually becoming less culturally and genetically
diverse.

"We need to take a genetic snapshot of who we are as a species
before the geographic and cultural context are lost in the
melting pot," Wells said. He cites language as a measure of the
disappearance of cultures. "There are around 6,000 languages
spoken in the world today, and by the end of the century, between
half and 90 percent of those are going to be gone."

IBM, as the technology partner of the project, will participate
in collecting the data, storing it, and analyzing it.

"We have some indications, from prior studies about the migration
of people, how the diversity and similarity that we see in
peoples of the world might have happened in the last 50,000 to
10,000 years," said Ajay Royyuru, a senior manager of IBM's
Computational Biology Center. "But what is missing is the detail,
the ability for everyone on the planet to be able to see,
understand, exactly how they got to be where they are."

Tracking Genetic Markers

Each human parent contributes half of a child's DNA, which
combines with the other parent's DNA to form a new genetic
combination. This so-called recombination gives each of us a
unique set of attributes: hair, eye, and skin color; athleticism
or lack thereof; susceptibility to certain diseases; and so on.

However, the chunk of DNA known as the y chromosome, which only
males possess, is passed from father to son without recombining.
The y chromosome, therefore, remains basically unchanged through
generations, except for random mutations. Similarly, women pass
mitochondrial DNA, which also does not recombine, on to both
their sons and daughters.

Random mutations to DNA, which happen naturally and are usually
harmless, are called markers. Once a marker has been identified,
geneticists can go back in time and trace it to the point at
which it first occurred. This way, they are able to determine
when and where a new lineage began.

If they can be traced to a particular region, these lineages can
be used to track prehistoric migration patterns. However,
indigenous identities are being lost as more and more people move
from their ancestral villages.

"And when they do [leave], their kids [absorb] the dominant
culture in that [new] city and lose touch with the old ways,"
Wells said. "So what we lose is the context in which their
genetic diversity arose. The genes are still going to be there,
but without the geographical context, we can't infer anything
historical from the genetic data."

Battur Tumer, a descendant of Genghis Khan and one of the
participants at the project launch today in Washington, D.C.,
exemplifies the importance of finding indigenous populations in
their ancestral lands.

Wells's team collected y chromosome data in a region of Asia once
ruled by the 13th-century Mongolian warrior. Their analysis
identified a marker that originated about a thousand years ago
and was carried by about 8 percent of the men living in the
region. The marker was found in only one population outside of
Asia—the Hazaras tribe in Pakistan. The Hazaras have a long oral
tradition that says they're Khan's direct descendants.

Tying the marker to a geographic location and looking at the
region's history—Genghis Khan's armies often raped the women of
vanquished villages, and his descendants later expanded the
empire—suggests that today roughly 16 million men carry a genetic
mutation that probably originated with Khan's great-great-
grandfather.

The spread of that particular mutation was the result of a
cultural artifact—military success combined with a culture in
which men could have many wives and concubines—but it exemplifies
much of the impetus of the Genographic Project.

"The shared marker was identified because a focused effort was
made to sample specific populations, going after populations like
the Hazara, who have this oral history and want to test it to see
if it's true," Wells said.

"In addition, the people in the region had lived there for
centuries, and enough samples were collected to do an analysis.
The indigenous groups participated because the wanted their
stories told."

Public Participation

The Genographic Project is designed to tell everyone's story,
though, not just the stories of indigenous cultures. What is
unique about this project is the extent to which it relies on
public participation.

"Most research happens through the hands of researchers, and the
public at large gets to hear about it and learn about it on
occasion, but there isn't a way for them to participate. This
project is actually inviting individuals all over the world to be
sort of associate researchers," Royyuru said. "Success is
actually going to be determined by how many and how diverse the
people are that participate, which is a fascinating thing."

The DNA data being collected places a person in a "haplogroup"—a
lineage or branch on the human family tree that is defined by a
set of genetic markers. Haplogroup R, for instance, is identified
by a y chromosome mutation known as M173. Roughly 70 percent of
English men have this lineage, 95 percent of Spanish men, and 95
percent of Irish men.

"The reason a lot of western Europeans have it is because it
defines an expansion in the end of the last ice age as people
moved north out of Iberia [ancient Spain]," Wells said. "The cool
thing is that the penultimate marker—if you go back one step from
M173—is M45, which arose in Central Asia, so it tells you about
this journey your ancestors took through the steppes of Central
Asia hunting mammoths and so on. Before that they were down in
the Middle East."

The Middle Eastern marker, M89, represents a wave of migration
out of Africa that occurred around 45,000 years ago. The
Haplogroup R lineage ultimately traces all the way back to marker
M168.

"Every non-African has M168, which appeared in eastern Africa
around 60,000 years ago," Wells said.

"Some geographies have been better studied than others," Royyuru
said. "In Europe we have a much better understanding of the
genotypic diversity that exists and how that population happens
to be so diverse—who came from where at what point in time. That
is not the case with a large majority of Asia and Africa. There
is certainly some understanding of the possible waves of
migration and the routes that people might have traveled to
populate North and South America, but even those are not
definitive."

Should you want to get an idea of your own origins, National
Geographic is selling kits that allow an individual to take a
cheek swab, send it to a laboratory in Arizona, and then track
the information on the Genographic Project Web site.

The kits will sell for U.S. $99.95 plus shipping and handling.
The net proceeds from sales of the kits will fund additional
research and the Legacy Project, which will aid indigenous
cultures.

Legacy and Controversy

"The three main pillars of the project are field research, public
participation and communication, and the Legacy Project," Wells
said. "We see this as a collaborative effort with the indigenous
populations."

The Legacy Project will provide indigenous groups participating
in the Genographic Project with direct help through development
projects, education, and public-awareness campaigns aimed at
preserving traditional cultures.

The idea of creating the world's largest DNA database and
collecting blood samples from indigenous groups could raise
objections.

Genographic was specifically designed to dispel many of these
concerns. The kits are designed so that there's no way to tie a
kit's identification number to a specific individual.

Wells emphasizes the public nature of the project.

"We want this to be a very open project. We want to tell the
public what it is we're doing, the goals, the methods, and we
want to explain the results," Wells said. "We're not doing
anything medically relevant, not patenting anything," he added.

"We see this as information that's part of the [common heritage]
of our species. It's going to be released into the public domain,
and people can go back and reanalyze it and query it and learn
about it. We're hoping to create a virtual museum of human
history."
__________________

The project itself is at
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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User: "Ms Liberty"

Title: Re: THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT 26 Feb 2006 03:00:18 PM
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote :

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:13:19 -0600, Ms Liberty
<Ms-Liberty@free.usa> wrote:

I saw this on cable news and it's fascinating.

I watched the cable news segment as they traced the genetic
line of the news anchorman's lineage, with genetic marker
stops in various countries and regions, from the source in
Africa 60,000 years ago, to today. It blows white supremacy
away too. :-) We all started in Africa!

We're all African-Americans. Sweet. Where are my reparations?

There are no frelling reparations. :)
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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