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"Abeles" |
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24 Jan 2004 09:36:59 AM |
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The Israel disaster |
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and American. And
I don't see an end.
Instead of the UN's pandering to a bunch of Jewish fanatics, religious and
secular by creating an artificial state and disrupting the lives of hundreds
of thousands of people, the UN should have ensured that Jews along with
any other minority should be free of discrimination in the lands where they
were born or resided.
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure homelands.
Homelands like the US, the UK, Australia, Canada etc.
Homelands where Jews have done very well and lead safe and secure lives. Far
safer than life in Israel.
A large majority of Jews don't live in Israel and don't want to live there.
Many are supporters of Israel who make themselves feel warm and fuzzy by
expressing support by donation or word, BUT they don't live there.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
24 Jan 2004 01:57:52 PM |
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"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims
Correction: Jews and Palestinians. Palestinians are Christians, Catholics,
Druze, Orthodox, Protestant, as well as muslims!
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| User: "Jon Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
24 Jan 2004 03:59:54 PM |
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"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure
homelands.
Homelands like the US, the UK, Australia, Canada etc.
Homelands where Jews have done very well and lead safe and secure lives.
Far
safer than life in Israel.
And what institution is going to guarantee their safety in perpetuity? The
countries you mentioned are all democracies that welcome a religious/ethnic
plurality within their borders. Can you safely say that will be the case
100 years from now? 200 years?
The Jews have a history of being invited into a country which treated them
well and later decided to oppress them. Can you think of a way to ensure
that this will not happen again in the future without a Jewish state?
A large majority of Jews don't live in Israel and don't want to live
there.
But they are glad as hell that Israel exists in case they ever have a need
to go there.
Many are supporters of Israel who make themselves feel warm and fuzzy by
expressing support by donation or word, BUT they don't live there.
Yet.
-Jon A
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
25 Jan 2004 11:52:15 AM |
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"Jon Anderson" <andogigiSPAMMUSTDIE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uVBQb.23329$i4.20017@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure
homelands.
Homelands like the US, the UK, Australia, Canada etc.
Homelands where Jews have done very well and lead safe and secure lives.
Far
safer than life in Israel.
And what institution is going to guarantee their safety in perpetuity?
The
countries you mentioned are all democracies that welcome a
religious/ethnic
plurality within their borders. Can you safely say that will be the case
100 years from now? 200 years?
TRY 2 YEARS FROM NOW!
The Jews have a history of being invited into a country which treated them
well and later decided to oppress them. Can you think of a way to ensure
that this will not happen again in the future without a Jewish state?
A large majority of Jews don't live in Israel and don't want to live
there.
But they are glad as hell that Israel exists in case they ever have a need
to go there.
Many are supporters of Israel who make themselves feel warm and fuzzy by
expressing support by donation or word, BUT they don't live there.
Yet.
-Jon A
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
24 Jan 2004 04:08:22 PM |
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Subject: Re: The Israel disaster
From: "Jon Anderson"
Date: 1/24/2004 4:59 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <uVBQb.23329$i4.20017@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure
homelands.
Homelands like the US, the UK, Australia, Canada etc.
Homelands where Jews have done very well and lead safe and secure lives.
Far
safer than life in Israel.
And what institution is going to guarantee their safety in perpetuity? The
countries you mentioned are all democracies that welcome a religious/ethnic
plurality within their borders. Can you safely say that will be the case
100 years from now? 200 years?
Isreal claims to be a democracy. Are you now making the case that it really is
a religion with borders?
The Jews have a history of being invited into a country which treated them
well and later decided to oppress them.
Well that is the problem with any group that does not become part of the place
were they live.
Can you think of a way to ensure
that this will not happen again in the future without a Jewish state?
Israel is a democracy that is losing the population war. It cannot exist as
things are presently going.
A large majority of Jews don't live in Israel and don't want to live
there.
But they are glad as hell that Israel exists in case they ever have a need
to go there.
Many are supporters of Israel who make themselves feel warm and fuzzy by
expressing support by donation or word, BUT they don't live there.
Yet.
-Jon A
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Panu H?glund" |
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24 Jan 2004 03:43:11 PM |
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"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure homelands.
I am sorry, but back when Israel was created, it did not look that
way. It might look that way now, but it definitely did not look that
way back then. Remember that Israel was settled by the "seventh
million", who survived haShoah. We might despair at the paranoia of
some people writing abuse and calling everybody antisemite, but it is
a fact that at least their parents and grandparents had all the reason
in the world to be paranoid. Besides, I think Arab countries should
stop giving asylum to neo-Nazi bastards and reproducing anti-semitic
lies.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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25 Jan 2004 12:21:32 AM |
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"Panu H?glund" <phoglund@abo.fi> wrote in message
news:397828d4.0401241343.7c961a9a@posting.google.com...
Besides, I think Arab countries should
stop giving asylum to neo-Nazi bastards and reproducing anti-semitic
lies.
Egypt just did a multi-part miniseires on "The Protocols" - as if they were
true, of course.
And *they're* supposed to be at *peace* with Israel!!
"Mein Kampf" is the biggest seller in Palestinian territories.
Susan
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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25 Jan 2004 11:51:18 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:MfJQb.5274$qA4.1304@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
"Panu H?glund" <phoglund@abo.fi> wrote in message
news:397828d4.0401241343.7c961a9a@posting.google.com...
Besides, I think Arab countries should
stop giving asylum to neo-Nazi bastards and reproducing anti-semitic
lies.
Egypt just did a multi-part miniseires on "The Protocols" - as if they
were
true, of course.
And *they're* supposed to be at *peace* with Israel!!
"Mein Kampf" is the biggest seller in Palestinian territories.
Susan
Mein Kampf sells very well in United States, as well, and I understand that
Israel has its own Nazi party.
If Protocols were not real then Zionists would not be following its tenets
to the letter as they do now!
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| User: "Tilly" |
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26 Jan 2004 02:05:50 AM |
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amigocabal wrote:
Mein Kampf sells very well in United States, as well,
Source of your ridiclous remark. I bet the purchasers are either sells to
white supremacists or Muslims..
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and I
understand that Israel has its own Nazi party.
Russians who came to Israel after falsely declaring they were Jewish and in
fact never were. They are being deported.
If Protocols were not real then Zionists would not be following its
tenets to the letter as they do now!
What tenets are they following to the letter Alex?
Tilly
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Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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27 Jan 2004 02:28:03 PM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PT3Rb.24015$9k7.430191@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Mein Kampf sells very well in United States, as well,
Source of your ridiclous remark. I bet the purchasers are either sells to
white supremacists or Muslims..
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do. They have alliances with Supremacists!
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and I
understand that Israel has its own Nazi party.
Russians who came to Israel after falsely declaring they were Jewish and
in
fact never were. They are being deported.
Two million of them?
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| User: "Tilly" |
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27 Jan 2004 06:42:23 PM |
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amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white supremacists. The
two groups have a lot in common..
They have alliances with
Supremacists!
ROTFL.
How do you manage to dream all this crap up?
..right1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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27 Jan 2004 08:06:17 PM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white supremacists. The
two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy it to see
how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
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| User: "Ed" |
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27 Jan 2004 08:34:45 PM |
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"Paul Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tOERb.31320$Wa.7755@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white supremacists.
The
two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy it to
see
how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
But only the Arabs and the white supremacists fail to see it as absolute
rubbish.
Others might buy it, as you said, to "see how Hitler ticked."
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| User: "Tilly" |
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27 Jan 2004 09:36:30 PM |
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Paul Abeles wrote:
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white
supremacists. The two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy it
to see how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
I read on a news site here very recently (maybe the BBC) that the two books
are selling very well in Muslim countries and particularly the Arab
States.They lapped up the TV series about the 'Protocols' of course. It was
Prime Time viewing .
Tilly
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Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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27 Jan 2004 10:51:10 PM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7GRb.25950$9k7.467249@news.xtra.co.nz...
I read on a news site here very recently (maybe the BBC) that the two
books
are selling very well in Muslim countries and particularly the Arab
States.They lapped up the TV series about the 'Protocols' of course. It
was
Prime Time viewing .
Was it 42 episodes or 46?
Susan
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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28 Jan 2004 03:17:26 AM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7GRb.25950$9k7.467249@news.xtra.co.nz...
Paul Abeles wrote:
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white
supremacists. The two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy it
to see how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
I read on a news site here very recently (maybe the BBC) that the two
books
are selling very well in Muslim countries and particularly the Arab
States.They lapped up the TV series about the 'Protocols' of course. It
was
Prime Time viewing .
Tilly
people read and believe what they want to believe. You see it on here all
the time.
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| User: "Norma" |
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28 Jan 2004 03:27:04 AM |
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"Paul Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G6LRb.31868$Wa.9922@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7GRb.25950$9k7.467249@news.xtra.co.nz...
Paul Abeles wrote:
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white
supremacists. The two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy it
to see how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
I read on a news site here very recently (maybe the BBC) that the two
books
are selling very well in Muslim countries and particularly the Arab
States.They lapped up the TV series about the 'Protocols' of course. It
was
Prime Time viewing .
Tilly
people read and believe what they want to believe. You see it on here all
the time.
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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28 Jan 2004 08:57:40 PM |
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"Norma" <norma2339@charter.net> wrote in message
news:101f031sm04bj35@corp.supernews.com...
"Paul Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G6LRb.31868$Wa.9922@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
people read and believe what they want to believe. You see it on here
all
the time.
Paul banks on it.
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
Egypt showed the Protocols on public television.
Susan
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| User: "" |
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29 Jan 2004 05:58:26 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<EE_Rb.723$pk1.240@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>...
"Norma" <norma2339@charter.net> wrote in message
news:101f031sm04bj35@corp.supernews.com...
"Paul Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G6LRb.31868$Wa.9922@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
people read and believe what they want to believe. You see it on here
all
the time.
Paul banks on it.
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
Egypt showed the Protocols on public television.
Thank you. No wonder I hadn't heard of it.
Susan
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| User: "Paul Abeles" |
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28 Jan 2004 05:00:23 AM |
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"Norma" <norma2339@charter.net> wrote in message
news:101f031sm04bj35@corp.supernews.com...
"Paul Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G6LRb.31868$Wa.9922@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7GRb.25950$9k7.467249@news.xtra.co.nz...
Paul Abeles wrote:
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white
supremacists. The two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy
it
to see how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
I read on a news site here very recently (maybe the BBC) that the two
books
are selling very well in Muslim countries and particularly the Arab
States.They lapped up the TV series about the 'Protocols' of course.
It
was
Prime Time viewing .
Tilly
people read and believe what they want to believe. You see it on here
all
the time.
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
I have no idea
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| User: "Quant" |
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28 Jan 2004 12:33:23 PM |
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"Norma" <norma2339@charter.net> wrote in message news:<101f031sm04bj35@corp.supernews.com>...
"Paul Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G6LRb.31868$Wa.9922@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7GRb.25950$9k7.467249@news.xtra.co.nz...
Paul Abeles wrote:
"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dADRb.25815$9k7.465085@news.xtra.co.nz...
amigocabal wrote:
Muslims don't read garbage, Jews do.
Copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols dominate book sales in Arab
countries. The only other people who bbuy them are white
supremacists. The two groups have a lot in common..
The only people? I don't think so. I'm sure there are many who buy it
to see how Hitler ticked, including Jews.
I read a few pages on line once. I thought it was absolute rubbish.
I read on a news site here very recently (maybe the BBC) that the two
books
are selling very well in Muslim countries and particularly the Arab
States.They lapped up the TV series about the 'Protocols' of course. It
was
Prime Time viewing .
Tilly
people read and believe what they want to believe. You see it on here all
the time.
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
There isn't any private Egyptian TV.
They show in a state TV. The series is described as "documentary series".
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| User: "Tilly" |
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28 Jan 2004 09:34:32 PM |
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Norma wrote:
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
It was shown throughout the Arab world in Arabic. The entire Arab world sat
down to watch it. It was the highlight of their year .They are also
educated to believe the content. I understand it was possible to get it with
a satellite dish in Israel.
Tilly
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Bright1_3@hotmail.com
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| User: "" |
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29 Jan 2004 05:59:34 AM |
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"Tilly" <Bright1_3@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Cb%Rb.27056$9k7.488896@news.xtra.co.nz>...
Norma wrote:
Just curious--where is it shown. On Public TV or??? Norma
It was shown throughout the Arab world in Arabic. The entire Arab world sat
down to watch it. It was the highlight of their year .They are also
educated to believe the content. I understand it was possible to get it with
a satellite dish in Israel.
I'm sure it was quite a spectacle! Norma
Tilly
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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25 Jan 2004 08:41:27 AM |
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Subject: Re: The Israel disaster
From: "Susan Cohen"
Date: 1/25/2004 1:21 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <MfJQb.5274$qA4.1304@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"Panu H?glund" <phoglund@abo.fi> wrote in message
news:397828d4.0401241343.7c961a9a@posting.google.com...
Besides, I think Arab countries should
stop giving asylum to neo-Nazi bastards and reproducing anti-semitic
lies.
Egypt just did a multi-part miniseires on "The Protocols" - as if they were
true, of course.
And *they're* supposed to be at *peace* with Israel!!
"Mein Kampf" is the biggest seller in Palestinian territories.
Susan:
Have you watched anything on the treatment of others by the Israel's in the
west bank? You like to take the high road but you are support a government now
lead by a known criminal (sharon) and possible a war criminal.
Susua, when ethics gets to be number one book in Israel then you can complain
about the reading habits of others.
Susan
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Panu H?glund" |
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28 Jan 2004 06:20:22 AM |
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(InsuranceBroker) wrote in message news:<20040125094127.18962.00000880@mb-m28.aol.com>...
Susan:
Have you watched anything on the treatment of others by the Israel's in the
west bank?
Israel's actions in the West Bank may be reprehensible, but that does
not justify the fact that anti-Semitic libel tracts sell well in the
Muslim world. Now, there are good reasons why they sell so well out
there. Besides, to believe in such crap as the Protocols you must be
positively desperate, and people usually become desperate for a
reason. But the fact that its popularity is an *understandable* fact
does not *justify* it. Above all, such crap is *not good for Muslims
themselves*, if they are ever supposed to build genuine democracy in
their countries.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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24 Jan 2004 04:05:47 PM |
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Subject: Re: The Israel disaster
From: (Panu H?glund)
Date: 1/24/2004 4:43 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <397828d4.0401241343.7c961a9a@posting.google.com>
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure
homelands.
I am sorry, but back when Israel was created, it did not look that
way. It might look that way now, but it definitely did not look that
way back then. Remember that Israel was settled by the "seventh
million", who survived haShoah.
Nay Isreal was a political agreement between the british government and the
rothchilds. It was called the great beytrail becuase the british had gotten
the arabs to fight the turks during WW! with a promise of a homeland that they
had not intention of allowing.
We might despair at the paranoia of
some people writing abuse and calling everybody antisemite, but it is
a fact that at least their parents and grandparents had all the reason
in the world to be paranoid. Besides, I think Arab countries should
stop giving asylum to neo-Nazi bastards and reproducing anti-semitic
lies.
Well that kind of opinion is one of the reasons why the middle east is such a
mess. THe arabs feel that the british should stop giving areas that they do
not own to people who lived in other places.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "alexz" |
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24 Jan 2004 06:00:57 PM |
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"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and American. And
I don't see an end.
Lets rest your I.Q. If we know there is wars between Jews and Muslims
and Muslims and Catholics as well as Muslims and protestnats and Muslims
and Hindu's and muslims and mulslims, there fore the world has a problem
with______________ fill in the blank you Nazi *****.
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| User: "Abeles" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
24 Jan 2004 06:16:07 PM |
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"alexz" <alexz33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43d72b53.0401241600.504c0b9@posting.google.com...
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims
leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and American.
And
I don't see an end.
Lets rest your I.Q. If we know there is wars between Jews and Muslims
and Muslims and Catholics as well as Muslims and protestnats and Muslims
and Hindu's and muslims and mulslims, there fore the world has a problem
with____Judaism__________ you Nazi *****.
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| User: "Ed" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
24 Jan 2004 10:13:49 PM |
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"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bVDQb.26442$Wa.493@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"alexz" <alexz33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43d72b53.0401241600.504c0b9@posting.google.com...
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims
leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and
American.
And
I don't see an end.
Lets rest your I.Q. If we know there is wars between Jews and Muslims
and Muslims and Catholics as well as Muslims and protestnats and Muslims
and Hindu's and muslims and mulslims, there fore the world has a problem
with____Muslims__________ you Nazi *****.
Glad to be of service.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
25 Jan 2004 11:56:04 AM |
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"alexz" <alexz33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43d72b53.0401241600.504c0b9@posting.google.com...
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims
leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and American.
And
I don't see an end.
Lets rest your I.Q. If we know there is wars between Jews and Muslims
and Muslims and Catholics as well as Muslims and protestnats and Muslims
and Hindu's and muslims and mulslims, there fore the world has a problem
with______________ fill in the blank you Nazi *****.
I WOULD SAY YOU ARE FULL OF *****! ALL OF THE WARS THUS FAR HAVE BEEN STARTED
BY NON MUSLIMS! Muslims have saved your arse during the Inquisition
otherwise you would not be here smelling up the place!
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| User: "alexz" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
25 Jan 2004 08:28:14 PM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message news:<UqTQb.24278$i4.16969@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"alexz" <alexz33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43d72b53.0401241600.504c0b9@posting.google.com...
"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims
leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and American.
And
I don't see an end.
Lets rest your I.Q. If we know there is wars between Jews and Muslims
and Muslims and Catholics as well as Muslims and protestnats and Muslims
and Hindu's and muslims and mulslims, there fore the world has a problem
with______________ fill in the blank you Nazi *****.
I WOULD SAY YOU ARE FULL OF *****! ALL OF THE WARS THUS FAR HAVE BEEN STARTED
BY NON MUSLIMS! Muslims have saved your arse during the Inquisition
otherwise you would not be here smelling up the place!
Just because you tatoo welcome on your ars and good a job in your bosnian
mosque as a floor mat doesn't mean you can rewrite historry, Alex.
The moores were invading spain and were miles from Madris, The arabs in
48 were miles from Haifa and Ashdod, no one started a war with this peace
loving people. Islam is an expensionist religion thay want to expand by
force and it even allawed in the Koran to make war in order to convert
others to this violent evil believe by force.
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| User: "JGB" |
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| Title: Re: The Israel disaster |
24 Jan 2004 12:00:28 PM |
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"Abeles" <nospampaabeles@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<viwQb.26167$Wa.825@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
The creation of the state of Israel has been a total disaster.<
Why? There are 5 million JEws living in Israel, more than even in
America,
despite the hardships involved. The fact that the JEwish state has
been
able to defend itself in the face of such overwhelming odds is a
considerable
achievement.
For over 50 years there has been conflict between Jews and Muslims leading
to the death and misery for thousands of people, Jew, Arab and American. And
I don't see an end.<
So, there were wars between Iran and IRaq, Egypt and Yemen, the US and
MExico,
etc. To say that a Jewish state shouldn't exist because it incites
others
to make war upon it is a very biased statement. The Mexicans could
just as
easily say that had there been no United States they would still be in
possession of Texas, California, and most of the US southwest.
Instead of the UN's pandering to a bunch of Jewish fanatics, religious and
secular by creating an artificial state and disrupting the lives of hundreds
of thousands of people, the UN should have ensured that Jews along with
any other minority should be free of discrimination in the lands where they
were born or resided.>
The was no need for a homeland for Jews they have safe and secure homelands.
Homelands like the US, the UK, Australia, Canada etc.<
Those are not Jewish homelands. Those are the homelands of the
American indians,
the Britons, the Abos and INuits. Jews may be allowed to be citizens
of some
of those countries, but that is very different from their being
homelands.
The homeland of the JEws is Judea.
Homelands where Jews have done very well and lead safe and secure lives. Far
safer than life in Israel.<
"Doing well" is besides the point. How poorly or prosperously Jews may
have
fared in other lands has nothing to do with anything. A homeland is a
place
that is yours by ancestral right, not by the sufferance of the
majority inhabitants.
A large majority of Jews don't live in Israel and don't want to live there.
Many are supporters of Israel who make themselves feel warm and fuzzy by
expressing support by donation or word, BUT they don't live there.
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