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"Harry Hope" |
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24 Jan 2005 01:28:45 PM |
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The lies Kindasleazy Rice always tells |
All the excitement of Bush's coronation has overshadowed one of the
more important events of last week; the Congressional hearings to
determine whether Condoleezza Rice is fit for the job of Secretary of
State.
Rice got an earful of criticism from several Democrats, John Kerry
included, but the most pointed comments came from Sen. Barbara Boxer
who quoted Rice's own contradictory statements
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20795-2005Jan19.html
and suggested that, "Your loyalty to the mission you were given, to
sell this war, overwhelmed your respect for the truth."
Ouch!
Rice - applying the new Bushian principle which holds that since he
was re-elected, no administration official will ever be held
accountable for anything ever again - got snippy.
"Senator, I have to say that I have never, ever lost respect for the
truth in the service of anything... I really hope that you will
refrain from impugning my integrity."
Right - because it wasn't Condi Rice who said "We do know that [Saddam
Hussein] is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon."
Or, "The intelligence assessment was that he was reconstituting his
nuclear program; that, left unchecked, he would have a nuclear weapon
by the end of the year."
Or in fact, any of the lies told during Condi's appearance before the
9/11 Committee from this giant list compiled by the Center for
American Progress.
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=44887
So, please, Dr. Rice, don't take us Democrats to task for trying to
impugn your integrity.
Bear in mind that it's not easy to impugn someone's integrity when
they don't have any integrity.
From The Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Harry
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| Title: Re: The lies Kindasleazy Rice always tells |
27 Jan 2005 06:37:43 PM |
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Rice lied about the aluminum tubes, along with others like Bush
and Powell, for instance. Here's an excerpt from an interview:
BLITZER (10/3/04): Let's get to one final thing. It's in The New York
Times today. On this program, almost exactly two years ago [on 9/8/02],
we were talking about those aluminum tubes that the Iraqis were
getting, and you said this on Late Edition. Listen to this:
RICE (videotape): We do know that there have been shipments going into
Iran, for instance-into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that
really are only suited to-high-quality aluminum tubes that are only
really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.
BLITZER: Now, in the New York Times today, they say that, at that time,
for a year you already knew the Department of Energy and others in the
U.S. government were suggesting they probably were being used for small
artillery rockets or other purposes, that it was a debate that was
ongoing.
RICE : Well, at that time, when I came on your show, I knew there was
some debate out there. But I tell you, I did not know the nature of the
debate. We learned later, as we were going through the NIE, the
Department of Energy's objections.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_1010.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/07/we_489_01.html
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh100404.shtml
"Many of the intelligence analysts who had participated in the
aluminum-tubes debate were appalled. One described the feeling to TNR:
"You had senior American officials like Condoleezza Rice saying the
only use of this aluminum really is uranium centrifuges. She said that
on television. And that's just a lie."
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh062403.shtml
With the aluminum tubes, Rice was clearly lying. Here's another quote.
With this one she's either lying or totally incompetant. Take your
pick:
Partial transcript from "NOW", with Bill Moyers, on November 19,2004:
.. . .
"MOYERS: Recall that in the days and weeks after 9/11, a shocked and
grieving people began to ask what government officials had known and
when they had known it. In May 2002, at a White House press conference,
the President's National Security Adviser tried to quiet the criticism.
RICE: I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people
would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take
another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use
an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile.
MOYERS: But Condoleezza Rice was wrong.
Had she looked, she could have found in the files of the intelligence
community that the attack she deemed unimaginable had, in fact, been
imagined repeatedly. Twelve times in the seven years before 9/11, the
CIA reported that hijackers might use airplanes as weapons.
(Rice never did bother to correct her statement)
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| User: "Swiss Observer" |
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| Title: Re: The lies Kindasleazy Rice always tells |
28 Jan 2005 11:21:37 AM |
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In the European press, the denials about the suitability of the
aluminum tubes that were made by Energy Department scientists was on
the front page the very day after the Bushies began making this claim.
They did appear in the NYT and Washington Post but way back on A27.
That's one of the reasons that it was so shocking for us here to see
the administration keep banging on about the same thing, when we all
assumed that everyone already knew that it had been debunked.
On 27 Jan 2005 16:37:43 -0800, wrote:
Rice lied about the aluminum tubes, along with others like Bush
and Powell, for instance. Here's an excerpt from an interview:
BLITZER (10/3/04): Let's get to one final thing. It's in The New York
Times today. On this program, almost exactly two years ago [on 9/8/02],
we were talking about those aluminum tubes that the Iraqis were
getting, and you said this on Late Edition. Listen to this:
RICE (videotape): We do know that there have been shipments going into
Iran, for instance-into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that
really are only suited to-high-quality aluminum tubes that are only
really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.
BLITZER: Now, in the New York Times today, they say that, at that time,
for a year you already knew the Department of Energy and others in the
U.S. government were suggesting they probably were being used for small
artillery rockets or other purposes, that it was a debate that was
ongoing.
RICE : Well, at that time, when I came on your show, I knew there was
some debate out there. But I tell you, I did not know the nature of the
debate. We learned later, as we were going through the NIE, the
Department of Energy's objections.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_1010.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/07/we_489_01.html
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh100404.shtml
"Many of the intelligence analysts who had participated in the
aluminum-tubes debate were appalled. One described the feeling to TNR:
"You had senior American officials like Condoleezza Rice saying the
only use of this aluminum really is uranium centrifuges. She said that
on television. And that's just a lie."
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh062403.shtml
With the aluminum tubes, Rice was clearly lying. Here's another quote.
With this one she's either lying or totally incompetant. Take your
pick:
Partial transcript from "NOW", with Bill Moyers, on November 19,2004:
. . .
"MOYERS: Recall that in the days and weeks after 9/11, a shocked and
grieving people began to ask what government officials had known and
when they had known it. In May 2002, at a White House press conference,
the President's National Security Adviser tried to quiet the criticism.
RICE: I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people
would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take
another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use
an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile.
MOYERS: But Condoleezza Rice was wrong.
Had she looked, she could have found in the files of the intelligence
community that the attack she deemed unimaginable had, in fact, been
imagined repeatedly. Twelve times in the seven years before 9/11, the
CIA reported that hijackers might use airplanes as weapons.
(Rice never did bother to correct her statement)
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| User: "Defendario" |
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| Title: Re: The lies Kindasleazy Rice always tells |
28 Jan 2005 04:04:12 PM |
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Swiss Observer wrote:
In the European press, the denials about the suitability of the
aluminum tubes that were made by Energy Department scientists was on
the front page the very day after the Bushies began making this claim.
They did appear in the NYT and Washington Post but way back on A27.
That's one of the reasons that it was so shocking for us here to see
the administration keep banging on about the same thing, when we all
assumed that everyone already knew that it had been debunked.
And yet you will hear the constant carping of some about the "Librul Media"
;D
On 27 Jan 2005 16:37:43 -0800, wrote:
Rice lied about the aluminum tubes, along with others like Bush
and Powell, for instance. Here's an excerpt from an interview:
BLITZER (10/3/04): Let's get to one final thing. It's in The New York
Times today. On this program, almost exactly two years ago [on 9/8/02],
we were talking about those aluminum tubes that the Iraqis were
getting, and you said this on Late Edition. Listen to this:
RICE (videotape): We do know that there have been shipments going into
Iran, for instance-into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that
really are only suited to-high-quality aluminum tubes that are only
really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.
BLITZER: Now, in the New York Times today, they say that, at that time,
for a year you already knew the Department of Energy and others in the
U.S. government were suggesting they probably were being used for small
artillery rockets or other purposes, that it was a debate that was
ongoing.
RICE : Well, at that time, when I came on your show, I knew there was
some debate out there. But I tell you, I did not know the nature of the
debate. We learned later, as we were going through the NIE, the
Department of Energy's objections.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_1010.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news/update/2003/07/we_489_01.html
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh100404.shtml
"Many of the intelligence analysts who had participated in the
aluminum-tubes debate were appalled. One described the feeling to TNR:
"You had senior American officials like Condoleezza Rice saying the
only use of this aluminum really is uranium centrifuges. She said that
on television. And that's just a lie."
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh062403.shtml
With the aluminum tubes, Rice was clearly lying. Here's another quote.
With this one she's either lying or totally incompetant. Take your
pick:
Partial transcript from "NOW", with Bill Moyers, on November 19,2004:
. . .
"MOYERS: Recall that in the days and weeks after 9/11, a shocked and
grieving people began to ask what government officials had known and
when they had known it. In May 2002, at a White House press conference,
the President's National Security Adviser tried to quiet the criticism.
RICE: I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people
would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take
another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use
an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile.
MOYERS: But Condoleezza Rice was wrong.
Had she looked, she could have found in the files of the intelligence
community that the attack she deemed unimaginable had, in fact, been
imagined repeatedly. Twelve times in the seven years before 9/11, the
CIA reported that hijackers might use airplanes as weapons.
(Rice never did bother to correct her statement)
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