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24 Sep 2003 08:49:45 AM |
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The public sees through White House spin on Iraq |
From The Philadelphia Inquirer, 9/21/03:
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/special_packages/sunday_review/6819922.htm
The public sees through White House spin on Iraq
By Trudy Rubin
Inquirer Columnist
It's all the media's fault.
That old refrain of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" is
resurfacing with the Iraq war.
Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld has chastised the media for not
telling the good news - "the story of success and accomplishment in
Iraq" carried on by the occupation.
I get similar complaints from readers who demand that I watch Fox News
to learn "the truth": that only 10 percent of Iraq is having problems.
Never mind that this percentage is pulled out of thin air.
The assumption seems to be that if the "bad news" would cease,
Islamists and Iraqi guerrillas would throw in the towel.
Would that this were true.
But Islamists aren't inspired to kill by stories in the New York Times
or The Inquirer, nor would a good-news blitz stop them.
As for implying that news negativity undercuts home support for Bush's
Iraq policy, Rumsfeld has it wrong.
Public support is being eroded not by the media but by prevarications
of the Bush team.
The President's poll numbers are declining because he didn't level
with the public about the aftermath of an Iraq war.
The public is startled by his request for $87 billion (in addition to
more than $50 billion so far) because it was never forewarned of such
numbers.
A year ago, White House budget director Mitch Daniels excoriated
Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's economic adviser, for suggesting war with
Iraq might eventually cost $100 billion to $200 billion, and Lindsay
was soon fired.
Daniels said the costs would be between $50 billion and $60 billion.
Bush economic adviser Glen Hubbard said the cost would be "very
small."
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Iraq could pay for its
own reconstruction.
And on and on.
Some pesky journalists who talked to oil experts wrote that Iraq's oil
fields couldn't pay for reconstruction in the near term - even before
sabotage pushed the period back further.
But Bush officials insisted oil would quickly pay the whole tab for
rebuilding Iraq.
The White House wanted to promote only the good news - that the war
would be cheap and the aftermath easy.
No wonder support is dropping as the truth becomes known.
As for today's "good news," the administration is still trying to spin
the story.
Yes, many occupation troops are doing good works, are painting schools
and refurbishing hospitals.
But all these praiseworthy efforts won't determine the success of the
mission.
The future of Iraq depends on bigger issues, such as whether the
occupation authority can figure out how to provide Iraqis with
security and jobs.
Even as the White House plays down these issues, senior Defense
Department officials are leaking reports that the biggest danger in
coming months may be the growing resentments of ordinary Iraqis.
These resentments could feed the guerrilla war.
Needless to say, this doesn't match the rosy picture presented by
Rumsfeld after his recent whirlwind tour of Iraq.
The real good news is that the White House doesn't believe its own
spin.
On the ground, occupation czar Paul Bremer has been pressing for
billions to train Iraqi security forces much faster and to create new
jobs for Iraqis.
White House officials have finally woken up; they know the media
reflect Iraqi reality more accurately than their own flacks.
But the public won't support billions for Iraq if it feels it's being
lied to.
Nor will the money go where it's needed most if the administration
deludes itself with happy talk.
The President may be getting the message that it's time to talk
straight.
On Wednesday, he finally acknowledged there's "no evidence" Saddam
Hussein was connected with 9/11.
Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe in that link because of
constant administration hints, the latest by Vice President Cheney
last Sunday.
No wonder the White House suffers from a mammoth credibility gap.
Iraq will not recover, nor U.S. policy succeed, if the administration
continues to dissemble.
So, if hardworking reporters are willing to risk their lives in Iraq,
and if they goad the administration into telling the truth, more power
to them.
I say: Bring 'em on.
_____________________________________________________
American folks are now purty much awake. Daylight's casting an
unwelcome light on the ugly Bushies. Time for them to go.
Harry
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| User: "Steve Hiner" |
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| Title: Re: The public sees through White House spin on Iraq |
24 Sep 2003 04:04:54 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:e783nvkl9hm5itfus5ogiujvkss9tqttru@4ax.com...
From The Philadelphia Inquirer, 9/21/03:
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/special_packages/sunday_review/6819922.htm
The public sees through White House spin on Iraq
By Trudy Rubin
Inquirer Columnist
It's all the media's fault.
That old refrain of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" is
resurfacing with the Iraq war.
Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld has chastised the media for not
telling the good news - "the story of success and accomplishment in
Iraq" carried on by the occupation.
I get similar complaints from readers who demand that I watch Fox News
to learn "the truth": that only 10 percent of Iraq is having problems.
Never mind that this percentage is pulled out of thin air.
The assumption seems to be that if the "bad news" would cease,
Islamists and Iraqi guerrillas would throw in the towel.
Would that this were true.
But Islamists aren't inspired to kill by stories in the New York Times
or The Inquirer, nor would a good-news blitz stop them.
As for implying that news negativity undercuts home support for Bush's
Iraq policy, Rumsfeld has it wrong.
Public support is being eroded not by the media but by prevarications
of the Bush team.
The President's poll numbers are declining because he didn't level
with the public about the aftermath of an Iraq war.
The public is startled by his request for $87 billion (in addition to
more than $50 billion so far) because it was never forewarned of such
numbers.
A year ago, White House budget director Mitch Daniels excoriated
Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's economic adviser, for suggesting war with
Iraq might eventually cost $100 billion to $200 billion, and Lindsay
was soon fired.
Daniels said the costs would be between $50 billion and $60 billion.
Bush economic adviser Glen Hubbard said the cost would be "very
small."
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Iraq could pay for its
own reconstruction.
And on and on.
Some pesky journalists who talked to oil experts wrote that Iraq's oil
fields couldn't pay for reconstruction in the near term - even before
sabotage pushed the period back further.
But Bush officials insisted oil would quickly pay the whole tab for
rebuilding Iraq.
The White House wanted to promote only the good news - that the war
would be cheap and the aftermath easy.
No wonder support is dropping as the truth becomes known.
As for today's "good news," the administration is still trying to spin
the story.
Yes, many occupation troops are doing good works, are painting schools
and refurbishing hospitals.
But all these praiseworthy efforts won't determine the success of the
mission.
The future of Iraq depends on bigger issues, such as whether the
occupation authority can figure out how to provide Iraqis with
security and jobs.
Even as the White House plays down these issues, senior Defense
Department officials are leaking reports that the biggest danger in
coming months may be the growing resentments of ordinary Iraqis.
These resentments could feed the guerrilla war.
Needless to say, this doesn't match the rosy picture presented by
Rumsfeld after his recent whirlwind tour of Iraq.
The real good news is that the White House doesn't believe its own
spin.
On the ground, occupation czar Paul Bremer has been pressing for
billions to train Iraqi security forces much faster and to create new
jobs for Iraqis.
White House officials have finally woken up; they know the media
reflect Iraqi reality more accurately than their own flacks.
But the public won't support billions for Iraq if it feels it's being
lied to.
Nor will the money go where it's needed most if the administration
deludes itself with happy talk.
The President may be getting the message that it's time to talk
straight.
On Wednesday, he finally acknowledged there's "no evidence" Saddam
Hussein was connected with 9/11.
Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe in that link because of
constant administration hints, the latest by Vice President Cheney
last Sunday.
No wonder the White House suffers from a mammoth credibility gap.
Iraq will not recover, nor U.S. policy succeed, if the administration
continues to dissemble.
So, if hardworking reporters are willing to risk their lives in Iraq,
and if they goad the administration into telling the truth, more power
to them.
I say: Bring 'em on.
_____________________________________________________
American folks are now purty much awake. Daylight's casting an
unwelcome light on the ugly Bushies. Time for them to go.
Harry
There's your sweety lapdog again, Harry! ;-)
I wonder if it's related to 'Taz'? It makes about as much sense.
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| Title: Re: The public sees through White House spin on Iraq |
24 Sep 2003 09:58:47 AM |
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Well, I've watched Don Rumsfeld's news conferences.
He always, without fail, shows up the lazy, ignorant news hacks for what
they are.
They have no idea of the basics of stories they are attempting to report on,
and ask questions a 12 year old would be too smart to have to ask.
We have "seen through" you old hippies and leftist spoiled brats.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:e783nvkl9hm5itfus5ogiujvkss9tqttru@4ax.com...
From The Philadelphia Inquirer, 9/21/03:
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/special_packages/sunday_review/68199
22.htm
The public sees through White House spin on Iraq
By Trudy Rubin
Inquirer Columnist
It's all the media's fault.
That old refrain of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" is
resurfacing with the Iraq war.
Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld has chastised the media for not
telling the good news - "the story of success and accomplishment in
Iraq" carried on by the occupation.
I get similar complaints from readers who demand that I watch Fox News
to learn "the truth": that only 10 percent of Iraq is having problems.
Never mind that this percentage is pulled out of thin air.
The assumption seems to be that if the "bad news" would cease,
Islamists and Iraqi guerrillas would throw in the towel.
Would that this were true.
But Islamists aren't inspired to kill by stories in the New York Times
or The Inquirer, nor would a good-news blitz stop them.
As for implying that news negativity undercuts home support for Bush's
Iraq policy, Rumsfeld has it wrong.
Public support is being eroded not by the media but by prevarications
of the Bush team.
The President's poll numbers are declining because he didn't level
with the public about the aftermath of an Iraq war.
The public is startled by his request for $87 billion (in addition to
more than $50 billion so far) because it was never forewarned of such
numbers.
A year ago, White House budget director Mitch Daniels excoriated
Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's economic adviser, for suggesting war with
Iraq might eventually cost $100 billion to $200 billion, and Lindsay
was soon fired.
Daniels said the costs would be between $50 billion and $60 billion.
Bush economic adviser Glen Hubbard said the cost would be "very
small."
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Iraq could pay for its
own reconstruction.
And on and on.
Some pesky journalists who talked to oil experts wrote that Iraq's oil
fields couldn't pay for reconstruction in the near term - even before
sabotage pushed the period back further.
But Bush officials insisted oil would quickly pay the whole tab for
rebuilding Iraq.
The White House wanted to promote only the good news - that the war
would be cheap and the aftermath easy.
No wonder support is dropping as the truth becomes known.
As for today's "good news," the administration is still trying to spin
the story.
Yes, many occupation troops are doing good works, are painting schools
and refurbishing hospitals.
But all these praiseworthy efforts won't determine the success of the
mission.
The future of Iraq depends on bigger issues, such as whether the
occupation authority can figure out how to provide Iraqis with
security and jobs.
Even as the White House plays down these issues, senior Defense
Department officials are leaking reports that the biggest danger in
coming months may be the growing resentments of ordinary Iraqis.
These resentments could feed the guerrilla war.
Needless to say, this doesn't match the rosy picture presented by
Rumsfeld after his recent whirlwind tour of Iraq.
The real good news is that the White House doesn't believe its own
spin.
On the ground, occupation czar Paul Bremer has been pressing for
billions to train Iraqi security forces much faster and to create new
jobs for Iraqis.
White House officials have finally woken up; they know the media
reflect Iraqi reality more accurately than their own flacks.
But the public won't support billions for Iraq if it feels it's being
lied to.
Nor will the money go where it's needed most if the administration
deludes itself with happy talk.
The President may be getting the message that it's time to talk
straight.
On Wednesday, he finally acknowledged there's "no evidence" Saddam
Hussein was connected with 9/11.
Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe in that link because of
constant administration hints, the latest by Vice President Cheney
last Sunday.
No wonder the White House suffers from a mammoth credibility gap.
Iraq will not recover, nor U.S. policy succeed, if the administration
continues to dissemble.
So, if hardworking reporters are willing to risk their lives in Iraq,
and if they goad the administration into telling the truth, more power
to them.
I say: Bring 'em on.
_____________________________________________________
American folks are now purty much awake. Daylight's casting an
unwelcome light on the ugly Bushies. Time for them to go.
Harry
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| User: "Easy Rider" |
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24 Sep 2003 10:44:01 AM |
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:Hiicb.13941$cK5.9666@fe1.columbus.rr.com:
Well, I've watched Don Rumsfeld's news conferences.
He always, without fail, shows up the lazy, ignorant news hacks for
what they are.
I thought this line about "lazy, ignorant news hacks" sounded familiar
so I did a google search.
http://tinyurl.com/oicv
4 times you've used this phrase in the last 3 months. This is the 5th
time. Do you think that if you repeat a nonsensical phrase over and over
it makes it more valid? Haven't you learned anything from watching
senseless Bush mouth the same catch-phrases over and over and thus
depriving them of any meaning? Be honest. Did you hear Rish Limbaugh use
this phrase and adopt it as your own?
Here's my fave:
http://tinyurl.com/oidj
--
Contrary to the opinion of the ignorant news hacks, and the ignorant
liberals, the so called "UN" is not some ultra legal or governmental
body, to which any nation has surrendered it's sovereignty for any
reason whatsoever. It has no power to order any nation to do anything.
It is a debating society, which can pass it's irresolute "resolutions"
and ASK for compliance. Many nations, including the USA, has absolute
veto power over any of its "resolutions" or security council actions.
WHY? Because we are a sovereign nation.
--
Looks like Bush is as convinced about the irrelevance of the UN as you
are.
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on -
shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again."
-George WMD Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"Don't be fooled again"
-Me, August 1, 2003.
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| User: "Al_Lien proud_liberal2003ATyahoo.com" |
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24 Sep 2003 10:26:49 AM |
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:Hiicb.13941$cK5.9666@fe1.columbus.rr.com:
Well, I've watched Don Rumsfeld's news conferences.
He always, without fail, shows up the lazy, ignorant news hacks for
what they are.
They have no idea of the basics of stories they are attempting to
report on, and ask questions a 12 year old would be too smart to have
to ask.
We have "seen through" you old hippies and leftist spoiled brats.
"We"? You and the voices in your head?
--
Visit my political website:
http://www.geocities.com/proud_liberal2003/
Taking Back Our Country: www.deanforamerica.com/
Care Packages for Our Troops in Iraq: www.goodygiftbox.com/military.html
Bush Scorecard: http://www.wage-slave.org/scorecard.html
http://www.conservativesagainstbush.com/
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