Politics > Politics-USA > The scandal of an American city still in ruins a year after a major disaster.
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The scandal of an American city still in ruins a year after a major disaster. |
From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
By Jeff Franks
NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) -
In New Orleans, 2007 begins much the same way 2006 did, with large
swaths of the city still wrecked and abandoned after Hurricane
Katrina, and local officials promising that better days lie just
ahead.
The news is not all bad -- streets once lined with mountains of debris
are mostly clean now and life in the least affected parts has returned
almost to normal, but the overall pace of recovery is so slow that
many wonder if the Big Easy will ever fully rebound from the deadly
August 29, 2005, storm.
Sixteen months after Katrina flooded 80 percent of the city and killed
more than 1,300 people, less than half of the pre-storm population of
nearly half a million has returned.
About 80,000 homes in Orleans Parish were damaged, and most remain
that way, creating a panorama of blight in the hardest-hit areas,
which were largely poor and working-class neighborhoods.
Many businesses remain closed or struggle to survive.
The landmark French Quarter restaurant Antoine's, run by the same
family since 1840, said last week its business was down 60 percent
from pre-Katrina and its future in doubt.
"My only salvation, my only hope, is that New Orleans recovers," said
chief executive Rick Blount, as quoted in the New Orleans
Times-Picayune.
Tourism, the lifeblood of the economy, is down -- only an estimated
197,000 people attended conventions at the city convention center this
year, compared to 532,700 in 2004 -- and the nature of it has changed.
Visitors used to breeze into New Orleans for a few days of drunken fun
in the French Quarter, but now most include a sobering tour of the
storm-stricken areas in their stay.
Their reaction is almost always the same: Why hasn't more been done?
How can this happen in America?
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Ask George Bush. But wait until he's finished clearing brush.
Harry
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| User: "Jim E" |
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01 Jan 2007 06:11:51 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Jim E
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| User: "Jim E" |
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02 Jan 2007 03:47:43 PM |
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"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <YD656359@SEA.edu> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Jim E
Jimbo, why not post the names and the amounts? You know actually prove
something. I know this will go against your "breeding" but try. Facts
count, try using some.
So you think that somehow the N.O. dim administration has seen the light,
and that their methods of operation have changed?
It is the most corrupt local government in the nation.
Good ol boys run amok.
Jim E
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: The scandal of an American city still in ruins a year after a major disaster. |
02 Jan 2007 07:32:04 AM |
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Jim E a =E9crit :
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Don't you ever get tired of humiliating yourself publicly, Jim E?
You're doing a "heck of job" showing that republicans like you are a
bunch of morons...
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| User: "Jim E" |
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02 Jan 2007 03:44:39 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Jim E a écrit :
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:m7eip2tqg525elb7d5a0fclfbdjqnjig32@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Don't you ever get tired of humiliating yourself publicly, Jim E?
You're doing a "heck of job" showing that republicans like you are a
bunch of morons...
You mean that you cannot defend the local dim administration's handling of
all that money?
How liberal of you.
Jim E
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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02 Jan 2007 04:26:37 PM |
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Jim E schrieb:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Jim E a =E9crit :
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery=
_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Don't you ever get tired of humiliating yourself publicly, Jim E?
You're doing a "heck of job" showing that republicans like you are a
bunch of morons...
You mean that you cannot defend the local dim administration's handling of
all that money?
How liberal of you.
You mean that your accusation is only based on emotion, partisanship
and not at all on actual facts? How rightard of you. It reminds me if
the wmd in Iraq...
=20
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Jim E
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| User: "Jim E" |
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02 Jan 2007 05:27:37 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Jim E schrieb:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Jim E a écrit :
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Don't you ever get tired of humiliating yourself publicly, Jim E?
You're doing a "heck of job" showing that republicans like you are a
bunch of morons...
You mean that you cannot defend the local dim administration's handling of
all that money?
How liberal of you.
You mean that your accusation is only based on emotion, partisanship
and not at all on actual facts? How rightard of you. It reminds me if
the wmd in Iraq...
The corruption of the New Orleans local government is legend.
Do you deny that?
Jim E
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| User: "stork" |
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02 Jan 2007 09:58:55 AM |
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Stork replied to:
Of course, the local dims running the place have skimmed all the money.
Don't you ever get tired of humiliating yourself publicly, Jim E?
You're doing a "heck of job" showing that republicans like you are a
bunch of morons...
Jim E is actually right. Skimming Katrina and other federal money is
part of the corruption of the place.. However, not rebuilding the city
because people are corrupt is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
If anything, have federal agents follow that reconstruction money and
use that not only to rebuild, but also as ABSCAM type sting operations
to root out construction at the same time.
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| User: "stork" |
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02 Jan 2007 12:40:54 PM |
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Stork replied to:
Jimbo, why not post the names and the amounts? You know actually prove
something. I know this will go against your "breeding" but try. Facts
count, try using some.
I don't think he needs to, as corruption is so legend in the Big Easy
that it is probably safer to assume it exists than not. With that
said, a more imaginitive federal executive would understand that
national security concerrns, the ability to demonstrate to the world
that the USA takes care of its own as a show of economic, civic, and
political strength, would trump most concerns about petty things like a
bit of corruption. If anything, one could use the influx of federal
money into the region to help root out corruption. But, saying we
shouldn't build the big easy becuase there are some corrupt people
there is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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| Title: Re: The scandal of an American city still in ruins a year after a major disaster. |
02 Jan 2007 01:53:19 PM |
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In article <1167763253.799576.179350@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
tbandrow@storkyak.com says...
Stork replied to:
Jimbo, why not post the names and the amounts? You know actually prove
something. I know this will go against your "breeding" but try. Facts
count, try using some.
I don't think he needs to, as corruption is so legend in the Big Easy
that it is probably safer to assume it exists than not. With that
said, a more imaginitive federal executive would understand that
national security concerrns, the ability to demonstrate to the world
that the USA takes care of its own as a show of economic, civic, and
political strength, would trump most concerns about petty things like a
bit of corruption. If anything, one could use the influx of federal
money into the region to help root out corruption. But, saying we
shouldn't build the big easy becuase there are some corrupt people
there is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Guess what? I agree with you. Corruption we have always with us to a
greater or lesser extent and in Louisiana, as in New Jersey, it's just a
way of life. That does not chnage the fact that a great American city
still lies in ruins not because of local corruption but because of Federal
incompetence -- and worse. Nobody in New Orleans that I know of is getting
way with billions of dollars. Would we could say the same about Iraq.
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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01 Jan 2007 12:20:26 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:m7eip2tqg525elb7d5a0fclfbdjqnjig32@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 12/31/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061231/ts_nm/neworleans_katrina_recovery_dc
New Orleans begins 2007 still in Katrina recovery
By Jeff Franks
NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) -
In New Orleans, 2007 begins much the same way 2006 did, with large
swaths of the city still wrecked and abandoned after Hurricane
Katrina, and local officials promising that better days lie just
ahead.
The news is not all bad -- streets once lined with mountains of debris
are mostly clean now and life in the least affected parts has returned
almost to normal, but the overall pace of recovery is so slow that
many wonder if the Big Easy will ever fully rebound from the deadly
August 29, 2005, storm.
Sixteen months after Katrina flooded 80 percent of the city and killed
more than 1,300 people, less than half of the pre-storm population of
nearly half a million has returned.
About 80,000 homes in Orleans Parish were damaged, and most remain
that way, creating a panorama of blight in the hardest-hit areas,
which were largely poor and working-class neighborhoods.
Many businesses remain closed or struggle to survive.
The landmark French Quarter restaurant Antoine's, run by the same
family since 1840, said last week its business was down 60 percent
from pre-Katrina and its future in doubt.
"My only salvation, my only hope, is that New Orleans recovers," said
chief executive Rick Blount, as quoted in the New Orleans
Times-Picayune.
Tourism, the lifeblood of the economy, is down -- only an estimated
197,000 people attended conventions at the city convention center this
year, compared to 532,700 in 2004 -- and the nature of it has changed.
Visitors used to breeze into New Orleans for a few days of drunken fun
in the French Quarter, but now most include a sobering tour of the
storm-stricken areas in their stay.
Their reaction is almost always the same: Why hasn't more been done?
How can this happen in America?
If you build a still in your basement and there's a flood, you can't get
insurance for it.
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| User: "stork" |
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| Title: Maybe Bush can clear some brush in New Orleans. |
01 Jan 2007 11:28:18 AM |
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Harry, I disagree with you and your liberal crap on a lot of stuff.
But, as far as New Orleans goes, your side is DEAD ON.
What is going down in New Orleans is a NATIONAL DISCRACE.
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01 Jan 2007 12:03:22 PM |
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stork wrote:
Harry, I disagree with you and your liberal crap on a lot of stuff.
But, as far as New Orleans goes, your side is DEAD ON.
What is going down in New Orleans is a NATIONAL DISCRACE.
Yup.......That's what you get when Democrats Run
Things.........Fucked-Up Government and Fucked-Up
Cities..........Heehee.........And Chocolate Assholes...........
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| User: "stork" |
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02 Jan 2007 07:03:27 AM |
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Stork replied to:
Yup.......That's what you get when Democrats Run
Things.........Fucked-Up Government and Fucked-Up
Cities..........Heehee.........And Chocolate Assholes...........
I don't disagree that the local government of NO is useless. However,
a disaster of the magnitude of Katrina is a national security issue,
because, other nations judge our strength and resolve by how fast we
can rebuild our city. Leaving a city fester because of an ideology of
individual responsibility seems like a copout for a federal inability
to reconstruct and makes the nation seem as weak as it did when
Klintoon retreated from Somalia.
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