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"Harry Hope" |
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29 Aug 2004 11:33:45 PM |
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The Swift Boaters can't handle the truth |
With a bit of luck we won't be writing much more about these idiots.
The past week has seen most of the organization's claims debunked and
many of the members have thoroughly contradicted themselves.
Not that you'd know it if you've been watching cable news.
So let's do a quick recap of some of the week's more important
stories:
-----Alfred French, who signed an affidavit accusing John Kerry of
exaggerating his war record, is in trouble after it was revealed that
he didn't serve with Kerry and did not actually witness his behavior
in Vietnam.
Lying in affidavits is obviously not a good idea when you're a county
prosecutor.
Oh yes, he also got caught lying about an extra-marital affair.
-----After Ken Cordier's departure from Team Bush it was the turn of
Benjamin Ginsberg to quit last week when it was revealed that not only
was he a lawyer for George W. Bush's campaign, he was a lawyer for -
surprise - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
We hear the door did not hit him in the ***** on the way out.
-----Jim Russell (who, unlike the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth," was
actually there the day that Kerry pulled Jim Rassmann out of the
river) composed a stirring letter contradicting their story.
"The picture I have in my mind of Kerry bending over from his boat
picking some hapless guy out of the river while all hell was breaking
loose around us, is a picture based on fact and it cannot be disputed
or changed," he wrote.
-----Larry Thurlow signed an affidavit accusing Kerry of lying about
being under fire when he rescued Rassmann, saying "no return fire
occurred.... I never heard a shot."
This directly contradicts his own Bronze Star citation.
But a third Bronze Star was awarded that day, to another Swift Boat
skipper, Robert Lambert.
Lambert's recently-released citation says that "all units came under
small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks," and that
Lambert "directed accurate suppressing fire at the enemy."
The citation praises his "coolness, professionalism and courage under
fire."
Thurlow claims that Kerry faked the citations by falsely describing
events to superior officers.
But Kerry is not the eyewitness on Thurlow's citation - Lambert is.
Can it be any more obvious that Thurlow is lying?
-----John O'Neill has been making a big stink lately over whether John
Kerry was in Cambodia or not during the Vietnam War.
It appears that nobody - including Kerry - is really sure.
But O'Neill - as usual - made himself look like a complete ***** by
claiming to CNN that he (O'Neill) had never been in Cambodia and in
fact it was impossible to cross the border by river.
Whoops!
It turns out that O'Neill appears on an audio tape recorded in the
Oval Office telling the complete opposite to Richard Nixon.
O'NEILL: "I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the
water."
NIXON: "In a swift boat?"
O'NEILL: "Yes, sir."
Ah, credibility.
We hardly knew ye.
-----Even George W. Bush admits John Kerry is a war hero, saying last
week, "I think him [Kerry] going to Vietnam was more heroic than my
flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."
So now it's clear that either George W. Bush or the Swift Boat Idiots
are lying.
One or the other.
Who can it be?
From The Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Harry
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| User: "Tabernacle" |
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| Title: Re: The Swift Boaters can't handle the truth |
30 Aug 2004 11:05:52 AM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<0hb5j0turumea75i5ntjmgvud3biprgadg@4ax.com>...
With a bit of luck we won't be writing much more about these idiots.
The past week has seen most of the organization's claims debunked and
many of the members have thoroughly contradicted themselves.
Not that you'd know it if you've been watching cable news.
So let's do a quick recap of some of the week's more important
stories:
-----Alfred French, who signed an affidavit accusing John Kerry of
exaggerating his war record, is in trouble after it was revealed that
he didn't serve with Kerry and did not actually witness his behavior
in Vietnam.
Lying in affidavits is obviously not a good idea when you're a county
prosecutor.
Oh yes, he also got caught lying about an extra-marital affair.
-----After Ken Cordier's departure from Team Bush it was the turn of
Benjamin Ginsberg to quit last week when it was revealed that not only
was he a lawyer for George W. Bush's campaign, he was a lawyer for -
surprise - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
We hear the door did not hit him in the ***** on the way out.
-----Jim Russell (who, unlike the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth," was
actually there the day that Kerry pulled Jim Rassmann out of the
river) composed a stirring letter contradicting their story.
"The picture I have in my mind of Kerry bending over from his boat
picking some hapless guy out of the river while all hell was breaking
loose around us, is a picture based on fact and it cannot be disputed
or changed," he wrote.
-----Larry Thurlow signed an affidavit accusing Kerry of lying about
being under fire when he rescued Rassmann, saying "no return fire
occurred.... I never heard a shot."
This directly contradicts his own Bronze Star citation.
But a third Bronze Star was awarded that day, to another Swift Boat
skipper, Robert Lambert.
Lambert's recently-released citation says that "all units came under
small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks," and that
Lambert "directed accurate suppressing fire at the enemy."
The citation praises his "coolness, professionalism and courage under
fire."
Thurlow claims that Kerry faked the citations by falsely describing
events to superior officers.
But Kerry is not the eyewitness on Thurlow's citation - Lambert is.
Can it be any more obvious that Thurlow is lying?
-----John O'Neill has been making a big stink lately over whether John
Kerry was in Cambodia or not during the Vietnam War.
It appears that nobody - including Kerry - is really sure.
But O'Neill - as usual - made himself look like a complete ***** by
claiming to CNN that he (O'Neill) had never been in Cambodia and in
fact it was impossible to cross the border by river.
Whoops!
It turns out that O'Neill appears on an audio tape recorded in the
Oval Office telling the complete opposite to Richard Nixon.
O'NEILL: "I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the
water."
NIXON: "In a swift boat?"
O'NEILL: "Yes, sir."
Ah, credibility.
We hardly knew ye.
-----Even George W. Bush admits John Kerry is a war hero, saying last
week, "I think him [Kerry] going to Vietnam was more heroic than my
flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."
So now it's clear that either George W. Bush or the Swift Boat Idiots
are lying.
One or the other.
Who can it be?
From The Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Harry
Frankly Harry I am thinking that this is what elections are going to
look like from now on! Especially as Democrats are now going to see
that the only way to win is to do just like the Bushies are now doing
with these Smearboaters and start running ***** ads of their own!
So do not be surprised to see one day soon say (for example) an ad
with 250 people called Yalee's for Truth, who tell us they went to
Yale with AWOL Georgie (Most of whom went to YALE either before
Georgie showed up or after he graduated, just like many of these Swift
Smearers who are saying ***** about Kerry did) and start telling all
this ***** like how Georgie Smoked Pot or Snorted Coke or they heard
about how he raped a 16 year old girl or while drunk ran over this old
woman or how he got others to do his class work for him or bribed a
teacher to get a better grade and so on and so on and so on!
Most of which (with Georgie you never know)will be false, but once it
gets out in the public it can (like the proverbial genie) never be put
back into the bottle!
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| User: "Gary Forbis" |
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| Title: Re: The Swift Boaters can't handle the truth |
30 Aug 2004 07:39:11 AM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<0hb5j0turumea75i5ntjmgvud3biprgadg@4ax.com>...
With a bit of luck we won't be writing much more about these idiots.
Harry, the damage is done. It doesn't matter if we don't hear
from these liars any more.
I have a friend at work who still believe Hillary had Vince Foster killed
and his body moved. She believes state troopers procured women for Bill.
She believes we had to get to the bottom of Whitewater. She believes
anyone who would question Bush's actions concerning the Ben Ladens after
9/11 are traitors. She believes anyone questioning Bush's or Cheny's
motives during time of war hate America. (And this is where Winter Soldier
comes in.)
Winning a rational argument doesn't do the job any more, if it ever did.
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| User: "mclark" |
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| Title: Re: The Swift Boaters can't handle the truth |
30 Aug 2004 11:43:14 AM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
With a bit of luck we won't be writing much more about these idiots.
The past week has seen most of the organization's claims debunked and
many of the members have thoroughly contradicted themselves.
Not that you'd know it if you've been watching cable news.
So let's do a quick recap of some of the week's more important
stories:
-----Alfred French, who signed an affidavit accusing John Kerry of
exaggerating his war record, is in trouble after it was revealed that
he didn't serve with Kerry and did not actually witness his behavior
in Vietnam.
Lying in affidavits is obviously not a good idea when you're a county
prosecutor.
Oh yes, he also got caught lying about an extra-marital affair.
Again, if Kerry can pass along to Congress reports of incidents that he
had never witnessed, then why can't Al French do the same thing?
-----After Ken Cordier's departure from Team Bush it was the turn of
Benjamin Ginsberg to quit last week when it was revealed that not only
was he a lawyer for George W. Bush's campaign, he was a lawyer for -
surprise - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
We hear the door did not hit him in the ***** on the way out.
About Ginsberg's quitting try:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130222,00.html
It seems that Ginsberg simply found himself in a conflict of interest
situation and resigned.
-----Jim Russell (who, unlike the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth," was
actually there the day that Kerry pulled Jim Rassmann out of the
river) composed a stirring letter contradicting their story.
"The picture I have in my mind of Kerry bending over from his boat
picking some hapless guy out of the river while all hell was breaking
loose around us, is a picture based on fact and it cannot be disputed
or changed," he wrote.
-----Larry Thurlow signed an affidavit accusing Kerry of lying about
being under fire when he rescued Rassmann, saying "no return fire
occurred.... I never heard a shot."
This directly contradicts his own Bronze Star citation.
Has it occurred to you to consider that not only are citations written
by "higher-ups" who were not present at the incident but that they based
their citations on John Kerry's reports, John Kerry being known for his
colorful writing style?
But a third Bronze Star was awarded that day, to another Swift Boat
skipper, Robert Lambert.
Lambert's recently-released citation says that "all units came under
small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks," and that
Lambert "directed accurate suppressing fire at the enemy."
The citation praises his "coolness, professionalism and courage under
fire."
Thurlow claims that Kerry faked the citations by falsely describing
events to superior officers.
But Kerry is not the eyewitness on Thurlow's citation - Lambert is.
Can it be any more obvious that Thurlow is lying?
-----John O'Neill has been making a big stink lately over whether John
Kerry was in Cambodia or not during the Vietnam War.
It appears that nobody - including Kerry - is really sure.
But O'Neill - as usual - made himself look like a complete ***** by
claiming to CNN that he (O'Neill) had never been in Cambodia and in
fact it was impossible to cross the border by river.
Whoops!
It turns out that O'Neill appears on an audio tape recorded in the
Oval Office telling the complete opposite to Richard Nixon.
O'NEILL: "I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the
water."
NIXON: "In a swift boat?"
O'NEILL: "Yes, sir."
Ah, credibility.
We hardly knew ye.
-----Even George W. Bush admits John Kerry is a war hero, saying last
week, "I think him [Kerry] going to Vietnam was more heroic than my
flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."
War heroes lie like everybody else does.
M. Clark
So now it's clear that either George W. Bush or the Swift Boat Idiots
are lying.
One or the other.
Who can it be?
From The Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Harry
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| User: "demilib" |
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30 Aug 2004 11:34:04 PM |
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woahhh dreaaam oooonn....
http://media1.stream2you.com/rnc/RNC082304.wmv
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:0hb5j0turumea75i5ntjmgvud3biprgadg@4ax.com...
With a bit of luck we won't be writing much more about these idiots.
The past week has seen most of the organization's claims debunked and
many of the members have thoroughly contradicted themselves.
Not that you'd know it if you've been watching cable news.
So let's do a quick recap of some of the week's more important
stories:
-----Alfred French, who signed an affidavit accusing John Kerry of
exaggerating his war record, is in trouble after it was revealed that
he didn't serve with Kerry and did not actually witness his behavior
in Vietnam.
Lying in affidavits is obviously not a good idea when you're a county
prosecutor.
Oh yes, he also got caught lying about an extra-marital affair.
-----After Ken Cordier's departure from Team Bush it was the turn of
Benjamin Ginsberg to quit last week when it was revealed that not only
was he a lawyer for George W. Bush's campaign, he was a lawyer for -
surprise - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
We hear the door did not hit him in the ***** on the way out.
-----Jim Russell (who, unlike the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth," was
actually there the day that Kerry pulled Jim Rassmann out of the
river) composed a stirring letter contradicting their story.
"The picture I have in my mind of Kerry bending over from his boat
picking some hapless guy out of the river while all hell was breaking
loose around us, is a picture based on fact and it cannot be disputed
or changed," he wrote.
-----Larry Thurlow signed an affidavit accusing Kerry of lying about
being under fire when he rescued Rassmann, saying "no return fire
occurred.... I never heard a shot."
This directly contradicts his own Bronze Star citation.
But a third Bronze Star was awarded that day, to another Swift Boat
skipper, Robert Lambert.
Lambert's recently-released citation says that "all units came under
small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks," and that
Lambert "directed accurate suppressing fire at the enemy."
The citation praises his "coolness, professionalism and courage under
fire."
Thurlow claims that Kerry faked the citations by falsely describing
events to superior officers.
But Kerry is not the eyewitness on Thurlow's citation - Lambert is.
Can it be any more obvious that Thurlow is lying?
-----John O'Neill has been making a big stink lately over whether John
Kerry was in Cambodia or not during the Vietnam War.
It appears that nobody - including Kerry - is really sure.
But O'Neill - as usual - made himself look like a complete ***** by
claiming to CNN that he (O'Neill) had never been in Cambodia and in
fact it was impossible to cross the border by river.
Whoops!
It turns out that O'Neill appears on an audio tape recorded in the
Oval Office telling the complete opposite to Richard Nixon.
O'NEILL: "I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the
water."
NIXON: "In a swift boat?"
O'NEILL: "Yes, sir."
Ah, credibility.
We hardly knew ye.
-----Even George W. Bush admits John Kerry is a war hero, saying last
week, "I think him [Kerry] going to Vietnam was more heroic than my
flying fighter jets. He was in harm's way and I wasn't."
So now it's clear that either George W. Bush or the Swift Boat Idiots
are lying.
One or the other.
Who can it be?
From The Democratic Underground
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
Harry
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