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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "LeMod Pol"
Date: 24 Jan 2005 11:27:49 AM
Object: The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives
The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives
By David Horowitz January 24, 2005
The President sounded a clarion call for freedom in his
second inaugural address. Its sentiments were based on
an assessment of the world we live in that should be
obvious. Modern technologies of destruction are
accessible to all governments and exclusively to
governments (because they are so expensive and require
sophisticated capabilities to produce). Modern
terrorism requires a base for ambitious operations that
only nation-states can provide. Hence, an impoverished
wasteland like Afghanistan can wreak incalculable
devastation on the United States. Hence, "the best hope
for peace in our world, is the expansion of freedom in
all the world," which is the line from the President's
speech the White House is highlighting above all others.
Consider if Al Gore had been President on 9/11 and not
George Bush. Suppose Gore had adopted the response of
the Clinton administration to terrorists attacks, had
not declared war, and had not invaded Afghanistan in a
pre-emptive strike? Suppose Osama bin Laden had been
able to mount a second and third major terrorist attack
in the months following 9/11. Instead of the $600
billion that was taken out of the American economy, the
figure might have been many times that. Confidence
might have been so shattered that a full scale economic
collapse would have followed, taking down the global
economy along with it. It is not too fanciful to
imagine civil wars and coup d'etats following in the
wake of such an economic disaster. It is not
far-fetched to think that a nuclear power like Pakistan
might fall into radical Islamist hands. Two paths
define our future: chaos, tyranny and terror, or
expanding freedom and prosperity based on free markets
and free men.
It will probably not be one or the other. There is no
steady path to progress, and there will never be a
world without tyranny and conflict. But our course must
be to strengthen the one and combat the other. Thus
encouraging the Muslim world, and particularly the Arab
Muslim world, which is the heart of the global
terrorist threat -- to adopt democratic ways and to
shine the light of liberty into its culture of medieval
darkness is a pragmatic necessity for the future
security of the civilized world. That is the reality
behind the President's address. Only people in serious
denial can be blind to this fact. Only liberals.
The president sounded a clarion call for freedom and
liberals carped. That was virtually their
universal response to an inaugural that ranks among the
most inspirational speeches ever delivered by an
American president. ...
frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16727
--
LP
"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942
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User: "Topaz"

Title: Re: The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives 25 Jan 2005 10:46:00 PM
The goal of America is to destroy the White race. The
multi-culture and pluralism they push is only at the expense of
Whites. No one is trying to push multi-culture in China or Japan or
anyplace but on the Whites. And they promote racial intermarriage.
If things continue as the are the White race is doomed.
And who is doing all of this? It is the USA government and the
media, in other words the Jews.
Many Whites are traitors. They support the USA government and their
own destruction. We should look for allies. And anyone who wants to
remove the Jews from power is our ally. In the past the Japanese were
our allies. Today it is the Muslims.
Osama bin Laden
September 24th statement published in Pakistan
"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We
are
against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United
States,
or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This
system
is totally in control of the American Jews, whose first priority is
Israel,
not the United States. It is simply that the American people are
themselves
the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the
principles
and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In
fact, it
is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the
U.S. is
not uttering a single word."
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info http://www.RealNews247.com
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User: "Puddy"

Title: Re: The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives 24 Jan 2005 09:05:37 PM
"LeMod Pol" <modpol@igs.net> wrote in message
news:41F52DDC.F33D859D@igs.net...



The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives
By David Horowitz January 24, 2005


The President sounded a clarion call for freedom in his
second inaugural address. Its sentiments were based on
an assessment of the world we live in that should be
obvious. Modern technologies of destruction are
accessible to all governments and exclusively to
governments (because they are so expensive and require
sophisticated capabilities to produce). Modern
terrorism requires a base for ambitious operations that
only nation-states can provide. Hence, an impoverished
wasteland like Afghanistan can wreak incalculable
devastation on the United States. Hence, "the best hope
for peace in our world, is the expansion of freedom in
all the world," which is the line from the President's
speech the White House is highlighting above all >others.

Of course that doesnt' apply to Bush's friends like Saudi Arabia, and
Egypt. And it also doesn't mention that war is just about the worst way
to try and spread democracy to a region that isn't ready for it.

Consider if Al Gore had been President on 9/11 and not
George Bush. Suppose Gore had adopted the response of
the Clinton administration to terrorists attacks, had
not declared war, and had not invaded Afghanistan in a
pre-emptive strike?

Of course that all ignores that fact that the 9-11 attack dwarfed any
other attack ever carried out by any terrorist group. Gore would have
done the exact same thing. Hell, Ralph Nader would have attacked
Afghanistan.

Suppose Osama bin Laden had been
able to mount a second and third major terrorist attack
in the months following 9/11. Instead of the $600
billion that was taken out of the American economy, the
figure might have been many times that. Confidence
might have been so shattered that a full scale economic
collapse would have followed, taking down the global
economy along with it. It is not too fanciful to
imagine civil wars and coup d'etats following in the
wake of such an economic disaster. It is not
far-fetched to think that a nuclear power like Pakistan
might fall into radical Islamist hands. Two paths
define our future: chaos, tyranny and terror, or
expanding freedom and prosperity based on free markets
and free men.

LOL! This is about the biggest load of crap I've read in a while.
Yeah, if Al Gore were President he would have slapped Al Queda on the wrist,
while just about every democratic lawmaker was advocating attacking
Afghanistan. The scenario he lays out above is literally nothing but
fantasy.

It will probably not be one or the other. There is no
steady path to progress, and there will never be a
world without tyranny and conflict. But our course must
be to strengthen the one and combat the other. Thus
encouraging the Muslim world, and particularly the Arab
Muslim world, which is the heart of the global
terrorist threat -- to adopt democratic ways and to
shine the light of liberty into its culture of medieval
darkness is a pragmatic necessity for the future
security of the civilized world.

The only problem is that you don't "shine the light of liberty" on them
by killing them.

That is the reality
behind the President's address. Only people in serious
denial can be blind to this fact. Only liberals.

The president sounded a clarion call for freedom and
liberals carped. That was virtually their
universal response to an inaugural that ranks among the
most inspirational speeches ever delivered by an
American president. ...

LOL! Perhaps his speech would have been inspirational if it wasn't
so transparently hypocritical. Calling for freedom while continuing to
support some of the worst human rights abusers in the world.
Not a single democrat has ever advocated not promoting freedom and
democracy. Everyone agrees we need to do that. But you don't do that
by going to war. You can't impose democracy on people that aren't ready
for it, and you can't do it at the point of a gun. We are seeing what
the enaction of this policy looks like in Iraq. It doesn't work.
Jeremy Olson
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User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives 24 Jan 2005 02:04:00 PM
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:27:49 -0500, LeMod Pol <modpol@igs.net> wrote
or quoted :

The President sounded a clarion call for freedom in his
second inaugural address

gag me with a spoon. The hypocrisy was thick as treacle.
Bush has kiddie porn anal rape videos made at Abu Ghraib.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040717-082858-3675r.htm
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives 24 Jan 2005 06:40:12 PM
Your continued anti-Bush comments tell me all I
need to know about a foreigner like you. Like most
psuedo-American, Bush-bashers in this country, you
must attack the man and not his ideas or his
policies. The Democrats in America are to days
equivalent of the Tories of the Eighteenth Century
who fled north to Canada because they couldn't
bear to give up the tit of George III's hereditary
monarchy. The upside is that it purged the
pubescent United States of the testosterone-
deficient members of its gene pool. It appears
that after 229 years some have slipped back across
the south border and polluted our gene pool. The
proof? Why check out the US Senate.
.
User: "Puddy"

Title: Re: The Torch of Freedom Has Passed To Conservatives 24 Jan 2005 09:08:00 PM
<josesoplar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106613612.215098.254860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Your continued anti-Bush comments tell me all I
need to know about a foreigner like you. Like most
psuedo-American, Bush-bashers in this country, you
must attack the man and not his ideas or his
policies.

Yet all you can do is personally insult and attack democrats.
Typical republican hypocrisy. Bush's policies have quite obviously
failed. Iraq is a mess, and public opinion is turning against the
President. Hope you enjoy the next for years, as Bush's ratings are going
nowhere but down.
Jeremy Olson
.




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