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This is the Republican version of a healthy economy. |
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week high of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily" due to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at 320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment checks rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
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16 Jul 2005 12:21:49 AM |
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Black Elk wrote:
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week high of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily" due to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at 320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment checks rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
I really like(don't) the recent jurrymandered inflation figures
published by the Administration.
It is shocking to learn the math they taught us in school is no longer
accurate. Even though fuel has more than doubled in price it has only
inflated the cost of driving a little. Hamburger that went for around
1.90 a lb three years ago is now approaching 4.00 a pound but that is
only a little inflation.
I could spend all night finding examples of a "little" inflation.
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| Title: Re: This is the Republican version of a healthy economy. |
16 Jul 2005 12:25:53 AM |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:21:49 -0500, jaberwokie <@global.net> wrote:
Black Elk wrote:
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week high of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily" due to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at 320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment checks rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
I really like(don't) the recent jurrymandered inflation figures
published by the Administration.
It is shocking to learn the math they taught us in school is no longer
accurate. Even though fuel has more than doubled in price it has only
inflated the cost of driving a little. Hamburger that went for around
1.90 a lb three years ago is now approaching 4.00 a pound but that is
only a little inflation.
I could spend all night finding examples of a "little" inflation.
its like we live in someplace like Cuba
you can't trust anything these people tell you
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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| Title: Re: This is the Republican version of a healthy economy. |
16 Jul 2005 08:17:41 AM |
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<Limbaugh Fart Detector> wrote in message
news:42d89a40.249424562@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:21:49 -0500, jaberwokie <@global.net> wrote:
Black Elk wrote:
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week high
of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily" due
to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at
320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment checks
rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
I really like(don't) the recent jurrymandered inflation figures
published by the Administration.
It is shocking to learn the math they taught us in school is no longer
accurate. Even though fuel has more than doubled in price it has only
inflated the cost of driving a little. Hamburger that went for around
1.90 a lb three years ago is now approaching 4.00 a pound but that is
only a little inflation.
I could spend all night finding examples of a "little" inflation.
its like we live in someplace like Cuba
you can't trust anything these people tell you
Cuba has some of the best doctors in the world, they have one of the highest
doctor to citizen ratios and their healthcare is free. They've been
exporting healthcare to Third World Countries like the U.S. has been
exporting WMD to it's ME allies. Venezuela has began trading oil to Cuba in
return for their doctors and teachers.
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country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag
the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm
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16 Jul 2005 09:08:14 AM |
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Black Elk wrote:
<Limbaugh Fart Detector> wrote in message
news:42d89a40.249424562@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:21:49 -0500, jaberwokie <@global.net> wrote:
Black Elk wrote:
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week high
of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily" due
to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at
320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment checks
rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
I really like(don't) the recent jurrymandered inflation figures
published by the Administration.
It is shocking to learn the math they taught us in school is no longer
accurate. Even though fuel has more than doubled in price it has only
inflated the cost of driving a little. Hamburger that went for around
1.90 a lb three years ago is now approaching 4.00 a pound but that is
only a little inflation.
I could spend all night finding examples of a "little" inflation.
its like we live in someplace like Cuba
you can't trust anything these people tell you
Cuba has some of the best doctors in the world, they have one of the highest
doctor to citizen ratios and their healthcare is free.
Being thar Cuba ia a Carribean Island, dead center
in the the world's worst Hurricane track;
if Fidel, Jane Fonda, Che, Mao, Stalin, and morons et al
didn't have the highest doctor to citizen ratio
in the world, the moron island wouldn't even be
populated by anything other than
the Eqyptian Mafia, and NASA morons.
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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16 Jul 2005 09:31:41 AM |
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<zzbunker@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1121522894.114755.116340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Black Elk wrote:
<Limbaugh Fart Detector> wrote in message
news:42d89a40.249424562@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:21:49 -0500, jaberwokie <@global.net> wrote:
Black Elk wrote:
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week
high
of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily"
due
to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a
Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at
320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment
checks
rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
I really like(don't) the recent jurrymandered inflation figures
published by the Administration.
It is shocking to learn the math they taught us in school is no longer
accurate. Even though fuel has more than doubled in price it has only
inflated the cost of driving a little. Hamburger that went for around
1.90 a lb three years ago is now approaching 4.00 a pound but that is
only a little inflation.
I could spend all night finding examples of a "little" inflation.
its like we live in someplace like Cuba
you can't trust anything these people tell you
Cuba has some of the best doctors in the world, they have one of the
highest
doctor to citizen ratios and their healthcare is free.
Being thar Cuba ia a Carribean Island, dead center
in the the world's worst Hurricane track;
if Fidel, Jane Fonda, Che, Mao, Stalin, and morons et al
didn't have the highest doctor to citizen ratio
in the world, the moron island wouldn't even be
populated by anything other than
the Eqyptian Mafia, and NASA morons.
Easy enough to put this lie to rest. Haiti, the Dominican Republic, etc lie
in the path of the same hurricanes and yet they don't have the healthcare
system that Cuba has but they sure have U.S. installed dictatorships.
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would not be the ones to trust to keep government pure and our rights
secure. Indeed, it has always been those seeking wealth who were the source
of corruption in government. No other depositories of power have ever yet
been found, which did not end in converting to their own profit the earnings
of those committed to their charge."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0618-03.htm
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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16 Jul 2005 12:49:38 PM |
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Black Elk wrote:
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Cuba has some of the best doctors in the world, they have one of the highest
doctor to citizen ratios and their healthcare is free. They've been
exporting healthcare to Third World Countries like the U.S. has been
exporting WMD to it's ME allies. Venezuela has began trading oil to Cuba in
return for their doctors and teachers.
Check out these links and show me how much the Cuban doctors are
mentioned. What I see after a half centrury of socialist promises of
workers' paradise is a third world country that only improves when it
relaxes state control and lets in some market reforms. It seems Cubans
had a lot of doctors before Castro.
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In part because of Cuba's close economic integration with the
United States before 1959, Cuba's economic and social indicators
ranked among the highest in the world. 7 By 1957, Cuba
had an advanced health sector providing the lowest infant
mortality rate in Latin America (13th lowest in the world), and
the third highest number of physicians and dentists per capita,
comparable to the Netherlands and higher than in the United
Kingdom and Finland. Cuba also ranked among the highest in Latin
America at that time in terms of literacy rate, food consumption
(daily calories consumed), and access to mass media. 8
Cuba's economy unraveled during 1958, as political unrest and
economic damage caused by revolutionary forces disrupted
economic production and precipitated capital flight. 9
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http://www.cubafacts.com/Economy/econmain.htm
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba
http://www.vandine.com/ceconomics.htm
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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16 Jul 2005 03:15:08 PM |
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"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
news:42D948BE.7030209@mac.com...
Black Elk wrote:
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Cuba has some of the best doctors in the world, they have one of the
highest doctor to citizen ratios and their healthcare is free. They've
been exporting healthcare to Third World Countries like the U.S. has been
exporting WMD to it's ME allies. Venezuela has began trading oil to Cuba
in return for their doctors and teachers.
Check out these links and show me how much the Cuban doctors are
mentioned. What I see after a half centrury of socialist promises of
workers' paradise is a third world country that only improves when it
relaxes state control and lets in some market reforms. It seems Cubans had
a lot of doctors before Castro.
Batista's brutal dictatorship was for the wealthy. He was a U.S. ally of the
wealthy and corporations whose main interest was profit, not healthcare or
the wellbeing of Cuba's citizens.
The reality of the Cuban healthcare system is emphasized by the simple fact
they have a lower infant mortality rate than the U.S. does, after they
provide healthcare for EVERYONE!
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In order to clarify the importance of the health care system and at the same
time explain the pride and will of its citizens who partake in it, I will
describe the history of its development.
The Cuban health care system was not always designed as such, so
comprehensively and equally. The emergence of their health care system is
just one of the aspects that came from the birth of its socialist
government, in the Revolution of 1959. Prior to the revolution, the majority
of the Cuban population was under the oppression of the Batista military
dictatorship. There was no free government-funded health program, and the
health services were essentially conformed according to social class. The
population of Cuba consisted of a proportionately small wealthy class who
owned and controlled the bulk of Cuban wealth, the largest class of those
who lived in or near poverty standards, and a small middle class. The very
rich, top social class went to privately owned hospitals run by independent
physicians, the middle class (about 10% of the population), went to
Mutualistas, and the remaining large class of peasants and other poor
citizens went to the remaining facilities: 46 overcrowded and understaffed
government hospitals, some first aid stations in the main cities, and eight
maternal and child health stations, built for the total population at the
time of 8.5 million people. (Roemer,1976). The distribution of doctors was
extremely uneven: high proportions were in the main cities with few, if any
at all, in the rural areas.
http://apha.confex.com/apha/131am/techprogram/paper_69073.htm
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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16 Jul 2005 05:17:37 PM |
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Black Elk wrote:
....the population), went to
Mutualistas, and the remaining large class of peasants and other poor
citizens went to the remaining facilities: 46 overcrowded and understaffed
government hospitals, some first aid stations in the main cities, and eight
maternal and child health stations, built for the total population at the
time of 8.5 million people. (Roemer,1976). The distribution of doctors was
extremely uneven: high proportions were in the main cities with few, if any
at all, in the rural areas.
I love it when socialiats point to poor people and in-equality with the
rich. In Cuba, as in all those other workers' paradises of the recent
past, everybody is equally poor - except for Castro and his court.
Castro owns everything. Workers own nothing. How is this better?
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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16 Jul 2005 05:35:16 PM |
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"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
news:42D9878E.4050005@mac.com...
Black Elk wrote:
....the population), went to Mutualistas, and the remaining large class of
peasants and other poor citizens went to the remaining facilities: 46
overcrowded and understaffed government hospitals, some first aid stations
in the main cities, and eight maternal and child health stations, built
for the total population at the time of 8.5 million people. (Roemer,1976).
The distribution of doctors was extremely uneven: high proportions were in
the main cities with few, if any at all, in the rural areas.
I love it when socialiats point to poor people and in-equality with the
rich. In Cuba, as in all those other workers' paradises of the recent
past, everybody is equally poor - except for Castro and his court. Castro
owns everything. Workers own nothing. How is this better?
To say that Castro owns everything is a wild exaggeration. He is dictator,
of that there is no doubt, but compare Cuba to Haiti, the Dominican Republic
or just about any country in that region and Cuba comes out on top, way on
top when you consider almost everything they have done has been in spite of
the U.S. not because of it.
Now if you want to point to brutality and deprivation take a look at
Batista's rightwing dictatorship where the rich exploited the poor and
denied them healthcare, education and the basic necessities of life. This is
pretty much the scenario in Haiti in the present after Bush's overthrow of
Aristide.
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The number of Americans living in poverty increased by 1.3 million
last year (2003), while the ranks of the uninsured swelled by 1.4 million,
the Census Bureau reported Thursday (August 27, 2004).
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/26/census.poverty.ap/
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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17 Jul 2005 08:41:23 AM |
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Black Elk wrote:
"Werner Hetzner" <whetzner@mac.com> wrote in message
news:42D9878E.4050005@mac.com...
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To say that Castro owns everything is a wild exaggeration. He is dictator,
of that there is no doubt, but compare Cuba to Haiti, the Dominican Republic
or just about any country in that region and Cuba comes out on top, way on
top when you consider almost everything they have done has been in spite of
the U.S. not because of it.
Now if you want to point to brutality and deprivation take a look at
Batista's rightwing dictatorship where the rich exploited the poor and
denied them healthcare, education and the basic necessities of life. This is
pretty much the scenario in Haiti in the present after Bush's overthrow of
Aristide.
So you tell me that all dictators are not alike. Brilliant! Do someting
about it. Go to Haiti and help somebody. Or stay here and help somebody.
But stop telling other people they have to help when you do nothing.
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| User: "Thaddeus Stevens" |
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16 Jul 2005 07:26:51 AM |
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Black Elk wrote:
US jobless claims rise 16,000 to 336,000
Thu Jul 14,10:45 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US jobless claims rose by 16,000 to a six-week high of
336,000 in the week ended July 9, the Labor Department said.
The increase in seasonally adjusted initial claims was "primarily" due to
temporary seasonal layoffs in the auto manufacturing industry, a Labor
Department spokesman said.
The four-week moving average of new claims was nearly unchanged at 320,750.
Meanwhile, the number of former workers collecting unemployment checks rose
by 45,000 in the week ended July 2 to 2.62 million, a four-week high.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/pl_afp/useconomyunemployment_050714144528
What the numbers fail to show:
Unemployment, once it strikes, is leaving folks stranded for longer periods of
time today than in the recent past.
Our economic 'recovery', such as it is, goes on without really giving more work
that is meaningful-the job creation is in the nail salons, flower delivery and
lawn care type of careers.
Numbers can't show the changed nature of people's lives who must downgrade
expectations from a modest income to something hanging on the edge of desperation.
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