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03 Feb 2008 11:14:00 PM |
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Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director Philip Zelikow |
Watch 9/11 Press for the Truth, relatives of the victims called on him to resign.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
Ties Between White House, Sept 11 Chief
By HOPE YEN – 4 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Sept. 11 commission's executive director had closer ties with the White
House than publicly disclosed and tried to influence the final report in ways that the staff
often perceived as limiting the Bush administration's responsibility, a new book says.
Philip Zelikow, a friend of then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, spoke with her
several times during the 20-month investigation that closely examined her role in assessing the
al-Qaida threat. He also exchanged frequent calls with the White House, including at least four
from Bush's chief political adviser at the time, Karl Rove.
Zelikow once tried to push through wording in a draft report that suggested a greater tie
between al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and Iraq, in line with White House claims but not with
the commission staff's viewpoint, according to Philip Shenon's "The Commission: The Uncensored
History of the 9/11 Investigation."
Shenon, a New York Times reporter, says Zelikow sought to intimidate staff to avoid damaging
findings for President Bush, who at the time was running for re-election, and Rice. Zelikow and
Rice had written a book together in 1995 and he would later work for her after the commission
finished its job and she became secretary of state in 2005.
The Associated Press obtained an audio version of Shenon's book, which is to go on sale Tuesday.
Reached by the AP, Zelikow provided a 131-page statement with information he said was provided
for the book. In it, Zelikow acknowledges talking to Rove and Rice during the course of the
commission's work despite a general pledge he made not to. But he said the conversations never
dealt with politics.
The White House had no immediate comment Sunday.
According to the book, when Democratic commissioner Bob Kerrey learned the extent of Zelikow's
ties to the administration, he confronted Republican chairman Tom Kean and demanded to know why
someone with such apparent conflicts of interest had been hired.
"Look Tom," Kerrey is quoted as saying, "either he goes or I go." Kean eventually persuaded
Kerrey to stay.
Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, the panel's Democratic vice chairman, praised Zelikow as a "person of
integrity" who was upfront in disclosing his background and White House contacts. It made sense
for commission staff to contact the White House regularly to get information, Hamilton said,
and the book also notes that Zelikow was such a dogged negotiator that even then-White House
Counsel Alberto Gonzales found him irritating and subsequently refused to meet with him.
"Did he try to sway the report to protect the administration? I think the answer was no,"
Hamilton told the AP.
The book says phone logs maintained by the commission's executive assistant showed at least two
calls from Rove to Zelikow's office number in June 2003, and two more calls in September.
During that time, the commission was in the midst of its fact-finding.
Zelikow ordered the assistant to stop keeping phone records of his contacts with the White
House, the book said, but the panel's general counsel instructed her to ignore the order.
The phone logs do not record Zelikow's calls out, nor do they show calls on his cell phone,
which he relied on for most outgoing calls. Records from the Government Accountability Office,
which maintained some of the commission's phone records, showed frequent calls from Zelikow to
telephone numbers in area code 202, with the telephone prefix 4-5-6 — the prefix exclusive to
the White House, the book says.
Zelikow, in his written statement, said Rove had called with questions about the Bush library
and other business related to Zelikow's work at the University of Virginia. Zelikow also said
he enlisted Rice's logistical aid on behalf of the commission at one point to get Saudi
cooperation so the panel could interview their citizens.
"Rove and I didn't really know each other," he said in the statement. "I don't recall ever
having an extended conversation with him, and certainly not about politics or the commission."
The book seeks to raise new questions about the independence of the bipartisan commission,
which was created in 2002 to investigate government missteps that led to the Sept. 11 attacks.
Initially opposed by the White House, the panel issued a unanimous 567-page final report in
July 2004 during the height of the presidential campaign that did not blame Bush or former
President Clinton for the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people but did say they each failed
to make anti-terrorism a priority.
The book says that in early 2004, Zelikow allegedly sought to add to an initial staff report
wording that linked al-Qaida to Iraq. The wording would have said the terrorist network
repeatedly tried to communicate with the government of Saddam Hussein, a claim of cooperation
the administration had cited to justify the war in Iraq. After a staff protest, Zelikow backed
down; the final report said there was no "collaborative relationship" between Saddam and
al-Qaida. Zelikow has said that he simply wanted the panel to keep an open mind on the issue.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hWQCjbQNbAq13eIw2NMreAthexSgD8UJ4S400
9/11 press for the truth in theaters
http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/
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| User: "spammer" |
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03 Feb 2008 11:24:36 PM |
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Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
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| User: "VTR" |
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04 Feb 2008 12:03:03 AM |
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I don't see any crap in this you Zionist fascist liar.
spammer wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
Watch 9/11 Press for the Truth, relatives of the victims called on him to resign.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
Ties Between White House, Sept 11 Chief
By HOPE YEN – 4 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Sept. 11 commission's executive director had closer ties with the White
House than publicly disclosed and tried to influence the final report in ways that the staff
often perceived as limiting the Bush administration's responsibility, a new book says.
Philip Zelikow, a friend of then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, spoke with her
several times during the 20-month investigation that closely examined her role in assessing the
al-Qaida threat. He also exchanged frequent calls with the White House, including at least four
from Bush's chief political adviser at the time, Karl Rove.
Zelikow once tried to push through wording in a draft report that suggested a greater tie
between al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and Iraq, in line with White House claims but not with
the commission staff's viewpoint, according to Philip Shenon's "The Commission: The Uncensored
History of the 9/11 Investigation."
Shenon, a New York Times reporter, says Zelikow sought to intimidate staff to avoid damaging
findings for President Bush, who at the time was running for re-election, and Rice. Zelikow and
Rice had written a book together in 1995 and he would later work for her after the commission
finished its job and she became secretary of state in 2005.
The Associated Press obtained an audio version of Shenon's book, which is to go on sale Tuesday.
Reached by the AP, Zelikow provided a 131-page statement with information he said was provided
for the book. In it, Zelikow acknowledges talking to Rove and Rice during the course of the
commission's work despite a general pledge he made not to. But he said the conversations never
dealt with politics.
The White House had no immediate comment Sunday.
According to the book, when Democratic commissioner Bob Kerrey learned the extent of Zelikow's
ties to the administration, he confronted Republican chairman Tom Kean and demanded to know why
someone with such apparent conflicts of interest had been hired.
"Look Tom," Kerrey is quoted as saying, "either he goes or I go." Kean eventually persuaded
Kerrey to stay.
Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, the panel's Democratic vice chairman, praised Zelikow as a "person of
integrity" who was upfront in disclosing his background and White House contacts. It made sense
for commission staff to contact the White House regularly to get information, Hamilton said,
and the book also notes that Zelikow was such a dogged negotiator that even then-White House
Counsel Alberto Gonzales found him irritating and subsequently refused to meet with him.
"Did he try to sway the report to protect the administration? I think the answer was no,"
Hamilton told the AP.
The book says phone logs maintained by the commission's executive assistant showed at least two
calls from Rove to Zelikow's office number in June 2003, and two more calls in September.
During that time, the commission was in the midst of its fact-finding.
Zelikow ordered the assistant to stop keeping phone records of his contacts with the White
House, the book said, but the panel's general counsel instructed her to ignore the order.
The phone logs do not record Zelikow's calls out, nor do they show calls on his cell phone,
which he relied on for most outgoing calls. Records from the Government Accountability Office,
which maintained some of the commission's phone records, showed frequent calls from Zelikow to
telephone numbers in area code 202, with the telephone prefix 4-5-6 — the prefix exclusive to
the White House, the book says.
Zelikow, in his written statement, said Rove had called with questions about the Bush library
and other business related to Zelikow's work at the University of Virginia. Zelikow also said
he enlisted Rice's logistical aid on behalf of the commission at one point to get Saudi
cooperation so the panel could interview their citizens.
"Rove and I didn't really know each other," he said in the statement. "I don't recall ever
having an extended conversation with him, and certainly not about politics or the commission."
The book seeks to raise new questions about the independence of the bipartisan commission,
which was created in 2002 to investigate government missteps that led to the Sept. 11 attacks.
Initially opposed by the White House, the panel issued a unanimous 567-page final report in
July 2004 during the height of the presidential campaign that did not blame Bush or former
President Clinton for the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people but did say they each failed
to make anti-terrorism a priority.
The book says that in early 2004, Zelikow allegedly sought to add to an initial staff report
wording that linked al-Qaida to Iraq. The wording would have said the terrorist network
repeatedly tried to communicate with the government of Saddam Hussein, a claim of cooperation
the administration had cited to justify the war in Iraq. After a staff protest, Zelikow backed
down; the final report said there was no "collaborative relationship" between Saddam and
al-Qaida. Zelikow has said that he simply wanted the panel to keep an open mind on the issue.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hWQCjbQNbAq13eIw2NMreAthexSgD8UJ4S400
9/11 press for the truth in theaters
http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/
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| User: "cmdr buzz corey" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow ( INTERNET CRAP ALERT ) |
04 Feb 2008 12:21:50 AM |
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On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
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| User: "Jack" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow ( INTERNET CRAP ALERT ) |
04 Feb 2008 12:27:49 AM |
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cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
Their are those type of people who don't want the truth about 9/11 be known.
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| User: "VTR" |
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04 Feb 2008 12:32:55 AM |
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cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow ( INTERNET CRAP ALERT ) |
04 Feb 2008 05:11:00 AM |
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In article <sq6dnbRcTMwXLDvanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
VTR <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
That has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
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| User: "VTR" |
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04 Feb 2008 01:05:46 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
In article <sq6dnbRcTMwXLDvanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
VTR <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
That has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
You are delusional as usual, 9/11 press for the truth is making the people aware that the
relatives of the victims are questioning the official story.
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow |
04 Feb 2008 01:37:01 PM |
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In article <Sa-dnfHYGZJn_DranZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
VTR <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article <sq6dnbRcTMwXLDvanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
VTR <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
That has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
You are delusional as usual, 9/11 press for the truth is making the people aware that the
relatives of the victims are questioning the official story.
Which has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
There is a reason that nobody in the "Truth Movement" will speak in
public with anyone in the entire world that knows anything about
aviation, aviation crash analysis, civil engineering, metallurgy, or
demolition. That is because nobody on the "truth movement" is
speaking within their area of expertise and things they say make no
sense to people with relevant expertise.
The "Truth Movement" doesn't dispute the public record for the events
of 9/11. Worthy of Orwell's memory hole, they try to deny that a
public record exists to be fact-checked and to use to fact-check the
made-up ***** people like you parrot.
Starting on 9/11 and daily, for months, the local daily newspapers and
TV news in Washington D.C., Western PA, and NYC reported on events
that were local to them and this archive is a huge public record for
what the first responders and eyewitnesses said they saw and did on
9/11. It reports what is now called the "standard story". There were
10s of thousands of first repsonders and millions of eyewitnesses that
saw those reports, daily. Anyone that wants to can get to those
archives via the Internet, now.
For the "Truth Movement" to convince people 6 years later of something
other than the "standard story", they have to explain how all that
reporting done by thouands of reporters in 100s of independent news
outfits got into the local daily news in a way that the local
eyewitnesses agreed with day by day but that the "Truth Movement" now
says never happened.
We have essentially all this evidence for all three cities, all 4
airplanes and 19 hijackers; tens of thousands of first responder
eyewitnesses accounts, possibly a couple million eyewitnesses in
total, passenger DNA, hijacker DNA, airplane parts with serial
numbers, black boxes with data that agrees with everything else,
identified luggage and jewelry and dental fragments, radar tapes, FAA
records and phone calls, and video of fire raging in WTC1, 2, and 7
right up to the moment of collapse and showing debris falling much
faster than the tower when it collapsed, all consistent with the
engineering analysis of the collapse of three WTC towers and the
aviation crash scene analysis at the Pentagon and Shanksville that
show that 4 jets caused all the destruction on 9/11.
There are an estimated 7,000 video segments for the events at WTC and
millions of photographs and the statements of the estimated 50,000
occupants of WTC that were evacuated after the impacts.
Then there is the roughly 500 passangers and aircraft crew that never
came home after 9/11. Not to mention the 4 planes that would have to
be destroyed. Every large part of every pl ane has serial numbers and
the the aviation industry tracks all serial numbers. It's a federal
crime to tamoer with these serial numbers.
An estimated 70,000 people were first responders or after-the-fact
forensics people. Any one of these people could look at the part he
was an eyewitness to and what was being reported on the local daily
news and say that the news report was wrong.
After 6 years, none of then have. Some have died, since, and could
have made death-bed statements. None of them have.
None of them have become part of the "Truth Movement".
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
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| User: "VTR" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow |
04 Feb 2008 08:49:50 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
In article <Sa-dnfHYGZJn_DranZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
VTR <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article <sq6dnbRcTMwXLDvanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
VTR <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
That has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
You are delusional as usual, 9/11 press for the truth is making the people aware that the
relatives of the victims are questioning the official story.
Which has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
There is a reason that nobody in the "Truth Movement" will speak in
public with anyone in the entire world that knows anything about
aviation, aviation crash analysis, civil engineering, metallurgy, or
demolition. That is because nobody on the "truth movement" is
speaking within their area of expertise and things they say make no
sense to people with relevant expertise.
The "Truth Movement" doesn't dispute the public record for the events
of 9/11. Worthy of Orwell's memory hole, they try to deny that a
public record exists to be fact-checked and to use to fact-check the
made-up ***** people like you parrot.
Public records have been destroyed by members of the Bush administration, evidence have been
made classified by members of the Bush Administration.
FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape
Recording Contained Accounts of Communications With Hijacked Planes
By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 6, 2004; 6:16 PM
Six air traffic controllers provided accounts of their communications with hijacked planes on
Sept. 11, 2001, on a tape recording that was later destroyed by Federal Aviation Administration
managers, according to a government investigative report issued today.
It is unclear what information was on the tape because no one ever listened to, transcribed or
duplicated it, the report by the Department of Transportation inspector general said.
Source http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6632-2004May6
Starting on 9/11 and daily, for months, the local daily newspapers and
TV news in Washington D.C., Western PA, and NYC reported on events
that were local to them and this archive is a huge public record for
what the first responders and eyewitnesses said they saw and did on
9/11. It reports what is now called the "standard story". There were
10s of thousands of first repsonders and millions of eyewitnesses that
saw those reports, daily. Anyone that wants to can get to those
archives via the Internet, now.
For the "Truth Movement" to convince people 6 years later of something
other than the "standard story", they have to explain how all that
reporting done by thouands of reporters in 100s of independent news
outfits got into the local daily news in a way that the local
eyewitnesses agreed with day by day but that the "Truth Movement" now
says never happened.
We have essentially all this evidence for all three cities, all 4
airplanes and 19 hijackers; tens of thousands of first responder
eyewitnesses accounts, possibly a couple million eyewitnesses in
total, passenger DNA, hijacker DNA, airplane parts with serial
numbers, black boxes with data that agrees with everything else,
identified luggage and jewelry and dental fragments, radar tapes, FAA
records and phone calls, and video of fire raging in WTC1, 2, and 7
right up to the moment of collapse and showing debris falling much
faster than the tower when it collapsed, all consistent with the
engineering analysis of the collapse of three WTC towers and the
aviation crash scene analysis at the Pentagon and Shanksville that
show that 4 jets caused all the destruction on 9/11.
There are an estimated 7,000 video segments for the events at WTC and
millions of photographs and the statements of the estimated 50,000
occupants of WTC that were evacuated after the impacts.
Then there is the roughly 500 passangers and aircraft crew that never
came home after 9/11. Not to mention the 4 planes that would have to
be destroyed. Every large part of every pl ane has serial numbers and
the the aviation industry tracks all serial numbers. It's a federal
crime to tamoer with these serial numbers.
An estimated 70,000 people were first responders or after-the-fact
forensics people. Any one of these people could look at the part he
was an eyewitness to and what was being reported on the local daily
news and say that the news report was wrong.
After 6 years, none of then have. Some have died, since, and could
have made death-bed statements. None of them have.
None of them have become part of the "Truth Movement".
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| User: "cmdr buzz corey" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow |
05 Feb 2008 03:21:37 PM |
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On Feb 4, 7:49 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article <Sa-dnfHYGZJn_DranZ2dnUVZ_j2dn...@comcast.com>,
VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article <sq6dnbRcTMwXLDvanZ2dnUVZ_uKpn...@comcast.com>,
VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
That has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
You are delusional as usual, 9/11 press for the truth is making the people aware that the
relatives of the victims are questioning the official story.
Which has nothing to do with the engineering analysis of the collapse
of three WTC towers and the aviation crash scene analysis at the
Pentagon and Shanksville that all show that 4 jets caused all the
destruction on 9/11 and there was nothing like man-made explosives or
molten metal at WTC.
There is a reason that nobody in the "Truth Movement" will speak in
public with anyone in the entire world that knows anything about
aviation, aviation crash analysis, civil engineering, metallurgy, or
demolition. That is because nobody on the "truth movement" is
speaking within their area of expertise and things they say make no
sense to people with relevant expertise.
The "Truth Movement" doesn't dispute the public record for the events
of 9/11. Worthy of Orwell's memory hole, they try to deny that a
public record exists to be fact-checked and to use to fact-check the
made-up ***** people like you parrot.
Public records have been destroyed by members of the Bush administration, evidence have been
made classified by members of the Bush Administration.
And your verifiable proof of that is?
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| User: "cmdr buzz corey" |
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04 Feb 2008 10:07:50 AM |
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On Feb 3, 11:32 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdrbuzzcoreywrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
Just watch out for those black helicopters, be sure and wear you
tinfoil hat at all times and you will be safe.
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| User: "VTR" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow |
04 Feb 2008 01:08:50 PM |
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cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 3, 11:32 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdrbuzzcoreywrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
Just watch out for those black helicopters, be sure and wear you
tinfoil hat at all times and you will be safe.
Brainwashing the people has been an art of yours.
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| User: "cmdr buzz corey" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow |
04 Feb 2008 05:13:33 PM |
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On Feb 4, 12:08 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdrbuzzcoreywrote:
On Feb 3, 11:32 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdrbuzzcoreywrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
Just watch out for those black helicopters, be sure and wear you
tinfoil hat at all times and you will be safe.
Brainwashing the people has been an art of yours.
I would try it on you but having a brain, which you don't have, is a
requirement.
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| User: "VTR" |
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| Title: Re: Ties Between White House and 9/11 commission director PhilipZelikow |
04 Feb 2008 07:52:18 PM |
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cmdr buzz corey wrote:
On Feb 4, 12:08 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdrbuzzcoreywrote:
On Feb 3, 11:32 pm, VTR <V...@Noyahoo.com> wrote:
cmdrbuzzcoreywrote:
On Feb 3, 10:24 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just more 9/11 internet conspiracy crap.
It is the kind of stuff that people who have very low SAT scores like
to read.
You must be one of those with a very low SAT score. I bet you never took the exam and that is
why you aren't capable of seeing that the official story is a bunch of lies.
The Jersey girls figured out that they have been lied to.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q
Just watch out for those black helicopters, be sure and wear you
tinfoil hat at all times and you will be safe.
Brainwashing the people has been an art of yours.
I would try it on you but having a brain, which you don't have, is a
requirement.
Not only you brainwash people, you rob them from their brain so they can be brainless just like
what you have done to the masses.
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