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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "BW"
Date: 27 Oct 2003 08:31:46 AM
Object: To Be A Liberal
This pretty nicely summarizes the current "thinking" of today's Liberals and
Democrats:
TO BE LIBERAL . . .
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.
.

User: "PagCal"

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 04:15:45 PM


TO BE Conservative . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.

To be a conservative, you've got to believe that aids is a virus. It's a
syndrome, you moron.


*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

To be a conservative, you've got to believe in being guilty until proven
inocent. Why else would you
allow people to be incarcerated without access to a judge, attorney, or
even being charged.


*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.


To be a conservative is to go through menarce thinking you've just
started bleeding from
cancer or something.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.


To be a conservative means you want, nay, even like being treated by an
incompetant doctor - one
that could have been removed by the tort system otherwise.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

To be a conservative means you should be allowed to hunt deer with
assault weapons.


*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.


To be a conservative is to deny the fundamental principles of science,
and substitute religious
dogma for it. Furthermore, you think that everyone should be forced to
believe as you do.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.


Christ was gay, or at least, always surrounded by men. You be the judge.
You got something
against our Lord Jesus Christ?

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.


To be a conservative means you like working in sweat shops with no
minimum wage, no unemployment
insurance, no medical care, and no hope.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.


You've lost me here. Self-esteem comes from within. How can you earn it?

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.


To be a conservative means you don't believe in art.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.


Are you saying here, Bush is a corrupt politician? Sounds like it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.


To be a conservative is not to care a hoot about the NRA, other than to
use them as a tool
to get elected. Consider Arnold out in California. The Republicans are
thinking of dumping
the religious right wing of the party so they can get elected next time.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.



To be a conservative, means you believe in the Houston Education Miracle
Bush has carried forward
to the nation.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 06:08:58 PM
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:45 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:

To be a conservative means you like working in sweat shops with no
minimum wage, no unemployment
insurance, no medical care, and no hope.

Thanks to Bill Clinton's NAFTA.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 06:08:07 PM
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:45 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:

To be a conservative means you should be allowed to hunt deer with
assault weapons.

To be a Liberal means you believe that overpopulated deer populations
deserve the dignity of death of starvation compared to the evil
jack-booted Nazi American hunter.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 06:06:54 PM
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:45 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:

To be a conservative means you want, nay, even like being treated by an
incompetant doctor - one
that could have been removed by the tort system otherwise.

To be a Liberal means you must demand nationalized health care because
your frivilous lawsuits made quality healthcare unaffordable to the
average Joe.
.
User: "Bryan"

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 10:34:15 PM
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:45 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:



To be a conservative means you want, nay, even like being treated by an
incompetant doctor - one
that could have been removed by the tort system otherwise.


When other world leaders face life and death, with the medical option
being their only hope..... ever notice they come to the US Capitalist
system with all them "incompetant doctors", instead of any of the other
various world class models of Socialistic Health services?
To be Lieral is to be ignorant!

To be a Liberal means you must demand nationalized health care because
your frivilous lawsuits made quality healthcare unaffordable to the
average Joe.


.
User: "PagCal"

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 28 Oct 2003 12:18:52 AM

When other world leaders face life and death, with the medical option
being their only hope..... ever notice they come to the US Capitalist
system with all them "incompetant doctors", instead of any of the
other various world class models of Socialistic Health services?

Not true any more.
Canada, for example, has the best outfits eye surgery to remove the need
for glasses.
England is now testing the Jarvec LVAD. They couldn't do it in the US.
.



User: ""

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 06:05:30 PM
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:45 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:

To be a conservative, you've got to believe in being guilty until proven
inocent. Why else would you
allow people to be incarcerated without access to a judge, attorney, or
even being charged.

To be a Liberal you must believe that illegal combattants of war are
entitled to the same rights as US citizens.
.
User: "Bryan"

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 10:29:31 PM
How about to be American, is to support our troops, and encarcerate
anyone that might have even the slightest information that could be used
to save the lives of our American troops.
How about being intelligent to appreciate that there was a war, and
among the people that were shooting at our troops there were other
potential combatants that were encarcerated in the midst of said
shooting war for further questioning.
How about applying a little common sense!?
mange@merde.com wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:15:45 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:



To be a conservative, you've got to believe in being guilty until proven
inocent. Why else would you
allow people to be incarcerated without access to a judge, attorney, or
even being charged.



To be a Liberal you must believe that illegal combattants of war are
entitled to the same rights as US citizens.


.



User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: To Be A Conservative 27 Oct 2003 08:47:09 AM
obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:m%9nb.28790$mZ5.136450@attbi_s54...

This pretty nicely summarizes the current "thinking" of today's Liberals

and

Democrats:




TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.


.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 08:56:16 AM
<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067266021.66394.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........

How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly characterize
today's Liberal??
.
User: "Ashland Henderson"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 02:06:52 PM
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<kmanb.28896$mZ5.136961@attbi_s54>...

<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067266021.66394.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........




How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly characterize
today's Liberal??

All of them. Truly breathtaking stupidity.
.

User: "Marie A."

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 01:22:03 PM
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<kmanb.28896$mZ5.136961@attbi_s54>...

<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067266021.66394.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........




How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly characterize
today's Liberal??

BW, give it up. Leftists are notorious for denying their own beliefs
and positions. I would, too, if I believed such moronic things.
Whereas conservatives accept without argument certain
characterizations of their politics, such as favoring low taxes,
opposition to affirmative action, opposition to illegal immigration,
dealing harshly with terrorists and so forth, liberals will routinely
deny even the most obvious of generalities concerning the way they
think and the positions they typically hold.
They will argue about the time of day and deny that they believe
anything. In this manner they can say it's the "other guy" who
believes this nonsense, not them. Yep, Martians are voting for all
these things which are bringing this country to its knees. Democrats
are all voting the same way as republicans and the liberal Martians
are getting the upper hand. Just ask them!
Cordially, Marie
.

User: ""

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 06:04:04 PM
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:56:16 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:

How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly characterize
today's Liberal??

You made a huge mistake. You should never ask a Liberal to explain
their position or define their causes because they can't. It is some
illusionary world full of butterflies and antelopes with chautreuse
colored skies and air rife with a tingling tangerine scent.
Not one Liberal will answer which statement you made applies to them
because it makes them realize how absurd their views are when aired
out in the real world.
.

User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 09:16:19 AM
your implication that this list represents an accurate reflection of liberal
thought and philosophy is breath-taking in its stupidity..........
back to politics 101 for you....
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:kmanb.28896$mZ5.136961@attbi_s54...


<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067266021.66394.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........




How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly characterize
today's Liberal??


.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 10:52:21 AM
How so? The items seem to be a very accurate description of today's
Liberal "thinking" actually. If you don't agree, can you tell of which of
the "breath-takingly stupid" items you feel incorrectly characterize today's
Liberal??
Here's the list of Liberal characteristics again. I think it's a very
accurate list, and describes today's Liberal quite accurately. You seem to
think otherwise, so please tell us which (if any) you feel to be an
incorrect characterization of today's Liberal, and why:
TO BE LIBERAL . . .
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.
<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067267771.67578.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

your implication that this list represents an accurate reflection of

liberal

thought and philosophy is breath-taking in its stupidity..........

back to politics 101 for you....

"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:kmanb.28896$mZ5.136961@attbi_s54...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067266021.66394.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........




How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly characterize
today's Liberal??

.
User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 10:55:34 AM
come back once you finish that politics 101 class.......it may prove
enlightening....
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:93cnb.32324$9E1.121863@attbi_s52...

How so? The items seem to be a very accurate description of today's
Liberal "thinking" actually. If you don't agree, can you tell of which

of

the "breath-takingly stupid" items you feel incorrectly characterize

today's

Liberal??

Here's the list of Liberal characteristics again. I think it's a very
accurate list, and describes today's Liberal quite accurately. You seem

to

think otherwise, so please tell us which (if any) you feel to be an
incorrect characterization of today's Liberal, and why:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.



<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067267771.67578.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

your implication that this list represents an accurate reflection of

liberal

thought and philosophy is breath-taking in its stupidity..........

back to politics 101 for you....

"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:kmanb.28896$mZ5.136961@attbi_s54...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067266021.66394.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

obviously to be a conservative is to mistake *simple* slogans for
wisdom..........




How so? Which of the simple items do you feel incorrectly

characterize

today's Liberal??



.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:08:32 AM
You're obviously unable to tell us which (if any) items on the list are
"inaccurate" in terms of the thinking of today's Liberal. I think the list
is quite accurate, in fact. And you can't present any evidence or argument
to the contrary, so perhaps it's you who need to take a Politics 101
class...
So here's the list again:
TO BE LIBERAL . . .
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.
<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067273725.71976.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

come back once you finish that politics 101 class.......it may prove
enlightening....

.
User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:20:45 AM
......those who make wild assertions are the ones who need to prove their
validity....if your assertions are correct, you should have no problem
citing evidence to support your claims.
Shall we start with this one.....
" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding."
much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where liberals
have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:kicnb.32874$ao4.63019@attbi_s51...

You're obviously unable to tell us which (if any) items on the list are
"inaccurate" in terms of the thinking of today's Liberal. I think the

list

is quite accurate, in fact. And you can't present any evidence or

argument

to the contrary, so perhaps it's you who need to take a Politics 101
class...

So here's the list again:

TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.





<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067273725.71976.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

come back once you finish that politics 101 class.......it may prove
enlightening....



.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:29:42 AM
<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where liberals
have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.

Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate taxpayer
funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer) funds
are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!
So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:
TO BE LIBERAL . . .
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.
.
User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:42:30 AM
an interesting answer but NOT to the question asked, I'm afraid. I shall put
it to you again -
you said..."liberals believe there was NO ART BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING."
Please provide a link which shows a *liberal* suggesting ART DID NOT EXIST
BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING. That is the asinine assertion being made.
You provided an answer to a question that was not asked.
Here's your quote again:
*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate taxpayer
funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer) funds
are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.


.
User: "D. Paul Luthi"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:49:23 AM
I see your point Blutak. but the only point i was trying to make is that
nowadays people can't survive without money. sometimes it takes years for
an artist to be discovered. so in a way, today's art (modern art) would not
exsist without government funding, because most artist would either starve,
or get a job as an assembly line worker before they could be discovered.
<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067276542.74076.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

an interesting answer but NOT to the question asked, I'm afraid. I shall

put

it to you again -

you said..."liberals believe there was NO ART BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING."

Please provide a link which shows a *liberal* suggesting ART DID NOT EXIST
BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING. That is the asinine assertion being made.

You provided an answer to a question that was not asked.

Here's your quote again:

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.






"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate

taxpayer

funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer)

funds

are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and

killing

the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand

up

for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because

they

stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.




.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 05:40:38 PM
Which raises an important point - Liberals seem to think would-be "artists"
are somehow ENTITLED to be subsidized by the taxpayer until they are
"discovered". Do Liberals similarly think would-be conservative talkshow
hosts should be subsidized by the taxpayer until they are discovered and
develop a supporting audience? No.
Thus we see, once again, the stupidity of the Liberal - he or she wants to
burden the taxpayer to support SOME people (would-be "artists", for example)
while at the same time denying taxpayer funding for would-be conservative
talk show hosts, just to name one example.
IOW, Liberals are full of crap.
"D. Paul Luthi" <big_queer@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vpqmli43fveo0a@corp.supernews.com...

I see your point Blutak. but the only point i was trying to make is that
nowadays people can't survive without money. sometimes it takes years for
an artist to be discovered. so in a way, today's art (modern art) would

not

exsist without government funding, because most artist would either

starve,

or get a job as an assembly line worker before they could be discovered.

<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067276542.74076.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

an interesting answer but NOT to the question asked, I'm afraid. I shall

put

it to you again -

you said..."liberals believe there was NO ART BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING."

Please provide a link which shows a *liberal* suggesting ART DID NOT

EXIST

BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING. That is the asinine assertion being made.

You provided an answer to a question that was not asked.

Here's your quote again:

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.






"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate

taxpayer

funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer)

funds

are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a

lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and

killing

the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are

less

affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun

and

more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are

artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create

oppression,

government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more

important

then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they

stand

up

for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because

they

stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are

racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.






.

User: "Blutak"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 12:00:29 PM
i can see your point and agree with it totally.
Our poor befuddled BW though is attempting to prove the point that liberals
believe "no art existed before federal funding". It's a totally stupid
statement along with the rest of his list. I think it's dawning on BW how
stupid the statement is............
"D. Paul Luthi" <big_queer@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vpqmli43fveo0a@corp.supernews.com...

I see your point Blutak. but the only point i was trying to make is that
nowadays people can't survive without money. sometimes it takes years for
an artist to be discovered. so in a way, today's art (modern art) would

not

exsist without government funding, because most artist would either

starve,

or get a job as an assembly line worker before they could be discovered.

<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067276542.74076.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

an interesting answer but NOT to the question asked, I'm afraid. I shall

put

it to you again -

you said..."liberals believe there was NO ART BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING."

Please provide a link which shows a *liberal* suggesting ART DID NOT

EXIST

BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING. That is the asinine assertion being made.

You provided an answer to a question that was not asked.

Here's your quote again:

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.






"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate

taxpayer

funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer)

funds

are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a

lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and

killing

the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are

less

affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun

and

more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are

artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create

oppression,

government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more

important

then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they

stand

up

for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because

they

stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are

racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.






.
User: "D. Paul Luthi"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 12:05:06 PM
Well, if he means the priceless works of art from centuries past that have
been preserved by liberals. i am in total agreement. if it was not for those
"liberals" those "conservatives" would have used them for toilet tissue
years ago.
but yes that list is a complete pile of bull excrement
<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067277620.74704.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

i can see your point and agree with it totally.

Our poor befuddled BW though is attempting to prove the point that

liberals

believe "no art existed before federal funding". It's a totally stupid
statement along with the rest of his list. I think it's dawning on BW how
stupid the statement is............


"D. Paul Luthi" <big_queer@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vpqmli43fveo0a@corp.supernews.com...

I see your point Blutak. but the only point i was trying to make is that
nowadays people can't survive without money. sometimes it takes years

for

an artist to be discovered. so in a way, today's art (modern art) would

not

exsist without government funding, because most artist would either

starve,

or get a job as an assembly line worker before they could be discovered.

<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067276542.74076.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

an interesting answer but NOT to the question asked, I'm afraid. I

shall

put

it to you again -

you said..."liberals believe there was NO ART BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING."

Please provide a link which shows a *liberal* suggesting ART DID NOT

EXIST

BEFORE FEDERAL FUNDING. That is the asinine assertion being made.

You provided an answer to a question that was not asked.

Here's your quote again:

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.






"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art

before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate

taxpayer

funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer)

funds

are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a

lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and

killing

the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher

who

cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach

your

fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are

selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are

less

affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun

and

more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are

artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create

oppression,

government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more

important

then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they

stand

up

for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because

they

stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are

racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.








.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 05:40:38 PM
"D. Paul Luthi" <big_queer@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vpqnj5io6pp77c@corp.supernews.com...

Well, if he means the priceless works of art from centuries past that have
been preserved by liberals. i am in total agreement. if it was not for

those

"liberals" those "conservatives" would have used them for toilet tissue
years ago.

Nonsense. Liberals haven't "preserved" one single piece of "art", nor have
conservatives used one single piece of art for toilet tissue.
No, Liberals merely think that unless taxpayers are forced to fund would-be
"artists", somehow art would not exist. Which of course is nonsense. But
this is merely one example of the nonsense that spews forth from Liberals.
There are many more, as the list I posted enumerates.
.





User: "D. Paul Luthi"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:33:26 AM
yes, but most museums are funded by the government. you can draw a stick man
and call it art, but if there is no media to display your art in, how will
anyone know it is art?
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate taxpayer
funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer) funds
are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

So, care to try another one? Here's the list again:


TO BE LIBERAL . . .

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack

of

funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless

heroes

and doctors are overpaid.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law

abiding

Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial,

that

being gay is natural.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt

politicians

start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist

but

racial set-asides aren't.


.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 11:41:24 AM
"D. Paul Luthi" <big_queer@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vpqlnrkt48gke8@corp.supernews.com...

yes, but most museums are funded by the government.

Yes, Liberals have tried to claim for years that art would not exist without
federal funding, which of course is nonsense.
you can draw a stick man

and call it art, but if there is no media to display your art in, how will
anyone know it is art?


"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aCcnb.41954$Tr4.86960@attbi_s03...


<Blutak> wrote in message

news:1067275238.73085.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...

Shall we start with this one.....


" *To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before

federal

funding."

much appreciated if you would kindly supply links to sites where

liberals

have suggested that art did not exist prior to federal funding.



Liberals whine and moan when the suggestion is made to eliminate

taxpayer

funding of "art", as if to say that unless federal (i.e., taxpayer)

funds

are spent to support "art", art would therefore not exist!

.




User: "Ray"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 12:54:41 PM
I'm a liberal. Of course, one of the nice things about being a liberal
is that I can have views different from those of other liberals rather
than being spoon fed by Rush Limbaugh and company...

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.

Aids is spread by unprotected sex.

*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.

I'm against capital punishment. To be honest, Rush made a great point
one time. He said, "We don't have capital punishment in this country."
He is right. We don't. We have some sorry hybrid where a few states
are kill crazy and other aren't. It makes no sense. So, I'm opposed
to capital punishment in its current form.
I'm personally opposed to abortion. However, the federal government
(or any government) should not tell a woman what to do with her body.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.

This is simply stupid. I guess you are trying to be funny. Try again...

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.

Both are compensated adquately for their skills. Trial lawyers make money
off the system--thus, they are about an example of conservative
principles as one can imagine.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.

Another stupid statement barely worth the effort of reading.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.

So, conservatives are in favor of the polar ice caps melting?
Get a dictionary and an encyclopdia out before you post next time
and try to make a little more sense. Global warming is affected
by events outside of the control of people on this earth and by
Yuppies driving SUVs. If the world is going to try to reduce global
warming, then we have to control what we can control--in other words,
we have to control the Yuppies driving SUVs.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.

Gender roles are not artificial. However, each person should be able
to puruse his/her life in a manner constrained by his/her abilities rather
than their gender/sexual orientation.
Is 'being gay' natural? Again, I don't understand how you are using
the term 'natural'.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.

I don't get your point. Business is the best way to generate wealth.
Government is one of the worst. Unfortunately, some parts of our social
fabric must be regulated by the government.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.

Huh? I think you had best rethink your grammar and lexography
and rephrase this. Are you suggesting that someone should not
have self-esteem until he/she earns it? If so, then a 4 year
old should not have any self-esteem because
he/she hasn't 'done anything' to earn it.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.

Hardly.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.

Iraq definitely proves that corrupt politicians start wars.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

The NRA stands up for a dubious interpretation of one clause of
the constitution. The ACLU has a broader scope. To be honest, I'm not
crazy about either organization.

*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.

Are standardized test racist? No. Are racial set-asides racist? No.
.
User: "BW"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 05:40:39 PM
"Ray" <NOSPAM@otaku.freeshell.org> wrote in message
news:bnjplg$11oga7$1@ID-182856.news.uni-berlin.de...


I'm a liberal. Of course, one of the nice things about being a liberal
is that I can have views different from those of other liberals rather
than being spoon fed by Rush Limbaugh and company...

Can you name for us ANY Liberals who are spoon fed by Rush Limbaugh? You
seem to imagine yourself to be somehow "special", but offer us no evidence
to support that imagined status.
Liberals aren't spoonfed by Rush Limbaugh. No, Liberals are spoon fed by
the New York Times, the LA Times, Newsweek, The Nation, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN,
etc. etc. etc., so you are hardly unique among Liberals, Ray.
.

User: "Bryan"

Title: Re: To Be A Liberal 27 Oct 2003 06:22:57 PM
To be Liberal is to be ignorant.
Ray wrote:

I'm a liberal. Of course, one of the nice things about being a liberal
is that I can have views different from those of other liberals rather
than being spoon fed by Rush Limbaugh and company...



*To be a liberal, you have to believe the aids virus is spread by a lack of
funding.



Aids is spread by unprotected sex.




*To be a liberal, you have to be against capital punishment, but for
abortion on demand, in short you support protecting the guilty and killing
the innocent.



I'm against capital punishment. To be honest, Rush made a great point
one time. He said, "We don't have capital punishment in this country."
He is right. We don't. We have some sorry hybrid where a few states
are kill crazy and other aren't. It makes no sense. So, I'm opposed
to capital punishment in its current form.

I'm personally opposed to abortion. However, the federal government
(or any government) should not tell a woman what to do with her body.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that the same school teacher who
cannot teach your fourth grader how to read is qualified to teach your
fourth grader about sex.



This is simply stupid. I guess you are trying to be funny. Try again...



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that trial lawyers are selfless heroes
and doctors are overpaid.



Both are compensated adquately for their skills. Trial lawyers make money
off the system--thus, they are about an example of conservative
principles as one can imagine.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that guns in the hands of law abiding
Americans are more of a threat then nuclear weapons in the hands of
terrorists.



Another stupid statement barely worth the effort of reading.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical documented changes in the brilliance of the sun and
more affected by Yuppies driving SUV's.



So, conservatives are in favor of the polar ice caps melting?

Get a dictionary and an encyclopdia out before you post next time
and try to make a little more sense. Global warming is affected
by events outside of the control of people on this earth and by
Yuppies driving SUVs. If the world is going to try to reduce global
warming, then we have to control what we can control--in other words,
we have to control the Yuppies driving SUVs.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that gender roles are artificial, that
being gay is natural.



Gender roles are not artificial. However, each person should be able
to puruse his/her life in a manner constrained by his/her abilities rather
than their gender/sexual orientation.

Is 'being gay' natural? Again, I don't understand how you are using
the term 'natural'.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that business's create oppression,
government creates prosperity.



I don't get your point. Business is the best way to generate wealth.
Government is one of the worst. Unfortunately, some parts of our social
fabric must be regulated by the government.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that self-esteem is more important
then actually doing something to earn it.



Huh? I think you had best rethink your grammar and lexography
and rephrase this. Are you suggesting that someone should not
have self-esteem until he/she earns it? If so, then a 4 year
old should not have any self-esteem because
he/she hasn't 'done anything' to earn it.




*To be a liberal, you have to believe that there was no art before federal
funding.



Hardly.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians
start wars.



Iraq definitely proves that corrupt politicians start wars.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe the NRA is bad because they stand up
for certain parts of the Constitution while the ACLU is good because they
stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.



The NRA stands up for a dubious interpretation of one clause of
the constitution. The ACLU has a broader scope. To be honest, I'm not
crazy about either organization.



*To be a liberal, you have to believe that standardized tests are racist but
racial set-asides aren't.



Are standardized test racist? No. Are racial set-asides racist? No.


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