| Topic: |
Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"Captain Compassion" |
| Date: |
20 May 2007 07:44:49 PM |
| Object: |
trading emissions credits |
Alberta cool to joining B.C. in trading emissions credits
By JIM MACDONALD
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/18/4191365-cp.html
EDMONTON (CP) - Alberta and British Columbia may have locked arms on
trade and labour mobility agreements, but Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach
is rejecting B.C.'s invitation to join a regional market for trading
carbon credits.
Stelmach says he wants Alberta money to stay in Alberta rather than
flowing between provinces and western U.S. states looking to offset
their greenhouse gas emissions.
"We've taken a very firm position with premiers right across Canada
that our dollars are going to go into infrastructure technology in
Alberta," Stelmach said Friday outside a joint cabinet meeting.
"There's opportunity to trade credits here in Alberta between
industry."
But B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell remains hopeful about selling Alberta
on the benefits of a regional trading system, which would also involve
Arizona, Washington, Oregon, New Mexico and California.
"I think it actually works for all of us and I think the larger the
market, the better off we are," Campbell said as he entered the
meeting.
"Right now we're talking about the potential marketplace of over 200
million people and we think there'll be other states that will join,
and potentially other provinces."
Stelmach says he's more inclined to consider allowing industries
within Alberta to trade credits, but he's willing to listen to B.C.'s
proposal.
The Alberta premier hinted there's a possibility the province may be
willing to participate in some kind of co-operation on industrial
emissions.
Campbell said B.C.'s goal is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 33
per cent by 2020.
"I'd love to keep B.C.'s money in B.C. too, but I think that the real
issue for us is how do we accomplish our goals?" he said.
"We think that there are some real potential offsets and real
potential economic benefits that we can offer to that marketplace and
that's what we're going to try and accomplish."
Campbell says B.C. is also counting on Alberta to help promote the
2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver by sharing insight into the success
of the 1988 Winter Olympics in Calgary.
"I think there are real opportunities for Alberta, as there are for
the rest of the country, but Alberta understands the potential of the
Olympics."
Combining tourism packages that would include the Olympics with travel
to Alberta would be one opportunity, said Campbell.
Friday's meeting was the fifth joint cabinet session between the two
provinces. Last year, Alberta and B.C. signed a trade and labour
mobility agreement, which will be phased in over the next two years.
The deal streamlines regulations for companies doing business in both
provinces and allows workers to migrate more easily between Alberta
and B.C.
Although strongly opposed by some labour groups and the NDP
governments in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, the agreement is the first
deal of its kind in Canada.
Ontario and the Atlantic provinces have also expressed interest.
Four agreements were to be signed at Friday's meeting. One was a deal
to share workers and equipment during emergencies, such as forest
fires. Another was to allow cancer patients to travel between
provinces to receive radiation treatments.
Two other memorandums of understanding involve sharing expertise on
public-private building partnerships and pooling resources when
purchasing drugs and other medical supplies.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
.
|
|
| User: "PagCal" |
|
| Title: Re: trading emissions credits |
21 May 2007 01:48:16 AM |
|
|
Captain Compassion wrote:
Alberta cool to joining B.C. in trading emissions credits
By JIM MACDONALD
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/18/4191365-cp.html
EDMONTON (CP) - Alberta and British Columbia may have locked arms on
trade and labour mobility agreements, but Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach
is rejecting B.C.'s invitation to join a regional market for trading
carbon credits.
Lets get rid of pollution credits.
Pollution is pollution.
CO2 is CO2. Period. And the amount we dump in the atmosphere needs to
come down, so lets bring it down instead of *****-footing around
allowing polluters to continue their errant ways.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Phlip" |
|
| Title: Re: trading emissions credits |
21 May 2007 06:46:37 AM |
|
|
Lets get rid of pollution credits.
Pollution is pollution.
CO2 is CO2. Period. And the amount we dump in the atmosphere needs to
come down, so lets bring it down instead of *****-footing around
allowing polluters to continue their errant ways.
A right-wing mouthpeice on the radio recently scoffed about CO2 credits, by
citing a factory (in Italy?) that discovered selling their credits was more
valuable than making ceramic pottery, so they essentially shut down. Haha
they are scamming the system by using the credits to become welfare moms!
Haha!
This slant appeals to losers who resent laziness. Nobody should be allowed
to not work and get paid! (Except evil corporate executives.)
In any system, instant change causes disruption and waste. Don't instantly
raise the cost of the credits so high that nobody can pollute. Do that over
time.
The credit system intends to force a reckoning of the value of a polluting
product against the cost of its pollutants. An electricity plant might make
the cut, but a pottery shop does not! The system identifies pollutors who
cannot justify their ecological footprint.
--
Phlip
http://flea.sourceforge.net/PiglegToo_1.html
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Captain Compassion" |
|
| Title: Re: trading emissions credits |
21 May 2007 09:54:41 AM |
|
|
On Mon, 21 May 2007 02:48:16 -0400, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
Alberta cool to joining B.C. in trading emissions credits
By JIM MACDONALD
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/18/4191365-cp.html
EDMONTON (CP) - Alberta and British Columbia may have locked arms on
trade and labour mobility agreements, but Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach
is rejecting B.C.'s invitation to join a regional market for trading
carbon credits.
Lets get rid of pollution credits.
Pollution is pollution.
CO2 is CO2. Period. And the amount we dump in the atmosphere needs to
come down, so lets bring it down instead of *****-footing around
allowing polluters to continue their errant ways.
If you accept CAGW than trading carbon credits is insanity.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
Celibacy in healthy human beings is a form of
insanity. -- Captain Compassion
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
