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" Smell Of Bush? DEATH" |
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03 Jun 2006 11:37:44 AM |
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Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Summary: On MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson said problems with
"Iraq policy" are not Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's "fault"
because Rumsfeld was "executing policy that was dreamed up by other people."
The functions of the Secretary of Defense, according to the Department of
Defense's Organization and Functions Guidebook:
The Secretary of Defense is the principal defense policy advisor to the
President and is responsible for the formulation of general defense policy
and policy related to all matters of direct and primary concern to the DoD,
and for the execution of approved policy. Under the direction of the
President, the Secretary exercises authority, direction, and control over
the Department of Defense.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.defenselink.mil/odam/omp/pubs/GuideBook/ToC.htm
SCARBOROUGH: Tucker Carlson, should Donald Rumsfeld be fired?
CARLSON: I think a lot of the hostility here is misplaced. You know,
people are angry about our Iraq policy; I'm one of them; I'm angry about our
Iraq policy. But that's not Rumsfeld's fault, in the end.
He didn't dream up the invasion of Iraq. He doesn't have the power to
execute it. That's something the president did. That's also something
members of Congress endorsed by their vote in the run-up to war. Those are
the people you ought to be angry at.
I do think General [Barry] McCaffrey is absolutely right: He showed
bad judgment, really, from day one, when he made these sort of light-hearted
statements about the looting in Baghdad, the disorder that broke out, that
we've never really gotten under control since then. He clearly has some
judgment problems, but, from a macro point of view, this is not his fault.
He was executing policy that was dreamed up by other people.
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
03 Jun 2006 12:35:50 PM |
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Smell Of Bush? DEATH wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Even if that were true, why would that absolve him of guilt in this
matter? Tucker Carlson obviously doesn't know what the Secretary of
Defense's job is.
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| User: " Smell Of Bush? DEATH" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
03 Jun 2006 01:28:07 PM |
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"Josh Miles" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
news:_OudnVyYOdvsVRzZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
Smell Of Bush? DEATH wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just
"executing policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Even if that were true, why would that absolve him of guilt in this
matter? Tucker Carlson obviously doesn't know what the Secretary of
Defense's job is.
Yes, but Tuck thinks HIS job is to make excuses and apologies for Bush's
incompetent, lying crooks.
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| User: "Igor" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
03 Jun 2006 01:55:01 PM |
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Smell Of Bush? DEATH wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Summary: On MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson said problems with
"Iraq policy" are not Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's "fault"
because Rumsfeld was "executing policy that was dreamed up by other people."
The functions of the Secretary of Defense, according to the Department of
Defense's Organization and Functions Guidebook:
The Secretary of Defense is the principal defense policy advisor to the
President and is responsible for the formulation of general defense policy
and policy related to all matters of direct and primary concern to the DoD,
and for the execution of approved policy. Under the direction of the
President, the Secretary exercises authority, direction, and control over
the Department of Defense.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.defenselink.mil/odam/omp/pubs/GuideBook/ToC.htm
SCARBOROUGH: Tucker Carlson, should Donald Rumsfeld be fired?
CARLSON: I think a lot of the hostility here is misplaced. You know,
people are angry about our Iraq policy; I'm one of them; I'm angry about our
Iraq policy. But that's not Rumsfeld's fault, in the end.
He didn't dream up the invasion of Iraq. He doesn't have the power to
execute it. That's something the president did. That's also something
members of Congress endorsed by their vote in the run-up to war. Those are
the people you ought to be angry at.
I do think General [Barry] McCaffrey is absolutely right: He showed
bad judgment, really, from day one, when he made these sort of light-hearted
statements about the looting in Baghdad, the disorder that broke out, that
we've never really gotten under control since then. He clearly has some
judgment problems, but, from a macro point of view, this is not his fault.
He was executing policy that was dreamed up by other people.
That might very well be true. I'm not sure who in this administration
showed more desire to invade Iraq. About the only one that showed even
the least bit of reluctance was Colin Powell, but you saw what
eventually happened to him. All I know is that practically everyone in
this administration was just begging to invade from day one. 9/11 was
the best thing that happened to Bush and his administration and he'll
keep reminding us for the rest of his term. Unfortunately, he's
screwed up the war on terror so badly, I'm not sure anyone else could
even come close to fixing it now. The best we can hope for is that his
administration will soon come to a screeching halt. I'm not sure the
US could take another three years of these guys.
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| User: " Smell Of Death? BUSH" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
04 Jun 2006 01:06:57 PM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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Tucker should go back to waiting tables on Martha's Vineyard.
Under the tables?
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| User: "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
04 Jun 2006 09:37:32 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:44 GMT, " Smell Of Bush? DEATH"
<spit@bush.net> wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Summary: On MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson said problems with
"Iraq policy" are not Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's "fault"
because Rumsfeld was "executing policy that was dreamed up by other people."
The functions of the Secretary of Defense, according to the Department of
Defense's Organization and Functions Guidebook:
The Secretary of Defense is the principal defense policy advisor to the
President and is responsible for the formulation of general defense policy
and policy related to all matters of direct and primary concern to the DoD,
and for the execution of approved policy. Under the direction of the
President, the Secretary exercises authority, direction, and control over
the Department of Defense.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.defenselink.mil/odam/omp/pubs/GuideBook/ToC.htm
SCARBOROUGH: Tucker Carlson, should Donald Rumsfeld be fired?
CARLSON: I think a lot of the hostility here is misplaced. You know,
people are angry about our Iraq policy; I'm one of them; I'm angry about our
Iraq policy. But that's not Rumsfeld's fault, in the end.
He didn't dream up the invasion of Iraq. He doesn't have the power to
execute it. That's something the president did. That's also something
members of Congress endorsed by their vote in the run-up to war. Those are
the people you ought to be angry at.
I do think General [Barry] McCaffrey is absolutely right: He showed
bad judgment, really, from day one, when he made these sort of light-hearted
statements about the looting in Baghdad, the disorder that broke out, that
we've never really gotten under control since then. He clearly has some
judgment problems, but, from a macro point of view, this is not his fault.
He was executing policy that was dreamed up by other people.
Hey tucker - if you support the war then enlist or STFU.
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| User: "can_o_worms" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
04 Jun 2006 10:18:02 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:37:44 GMT, " Smell Of Bush? DEATH"
<spit@bush.net> wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Summary: On MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson said problems with
"Iraq policy" are not Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's "fault"
because Rumsfeld was "executing policy that was dreamed up by other people."
The functions of the Secretary of Defense, according to the Department of
Defense's Organization and Functions Guidebook:
The Secretary of Defense is the principal defense policy advisor to the
President and is responsible for the formulation of general defense policy
and policy related to all matters of direct and primary concern to the DoD,
and for the execution of approved policy. Under the direction of the
President, the Secretary exercises authority, direction, and control over
the Department of Defense.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.defenselink.mil/odam/omp/pubs/GuideBook/ToC.htm
SCARBOROUGH: Tucker Carlson, should Donald Rumsfeld be fired?
CARLSON: I think a lot of the hostility here is misplaced. You know,
people are angry about our Iraq policy; I'm one of them; I'm angry about our
Iraq policy. But that's not Rumsfeld's fault, in the end.
He didn't dream up the invasion of Iraq. He doesn't have the power to
execute it. That's something the president did. That's also something
members of Congress endorsed by their vote in the run-up to war. Those are
the people you ought to be angry at.
I do think General [Barry] McCaffrey is absolutely right: He showed
bad judgment, really, from day one, when he made these sort of light-hearted
statements about the looting in Baghdad, the disorder that broke out, that
we've never really gotten under control since then. He clearly has some
judgment problems, but, from a macro point of view, this is not his fault.
He was executing policy that was dreamed up by other people.
Rummy is one of the people who dreamed and set it up.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
Carlson is just kissing Israel Joe Scarborough's butt for the
moment. His show is much better that Israel Joe's is which
says a lot for what politic and tabloid fare that you have to
choose from anywhere on the boob tube.
Just to note:
Carlson doesn't support the Iraq war.
He has actually debunked a WMD justification story on his
show and refers to Iraq as a "disaster". You get tidbits of info
there occasionally like Rupert Murdoch's recent hosting of a
political fundraiser for Hillary Clinton........war chest stuffing.
--
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy
John J. Mearsheimer
University of Chicago - Department of Political Science
Stephen M. Walt
Harvard University - John F. Kennedy School of Government
http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011
( has polemical response from Alan Dershowitz at site )
Edited HTML version :
http://www.lrb.co.uk./v28/n06/mear01_.html
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| User: "the_blogologist" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
03 Jun 2006 06:53:15 PM |
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This is total *****. Rumsfeld is doing an outstanding job indicated
by the extremely light losses in Iraq. Rumsfeld figured out how to
pasify the enemy in Afghanistan with only 5% of the troops the Army
asked for. Rumsfeld also joined Nixon's team from the start, and we know
how US losses dropped off sharply soon after Nixon took over the Vietnam
War:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6545/vietnamwarstats8zn.jpg
Smell Of Bush? DEATH <spit@bush.net> wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Summary: On MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson said problems with
"Iraq policy" are not Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's "fault"
because Rumsfeld was "executing policy that was dreamed up by other people."
The functions of the Secretary of Defense, according to the Department of
Defense's Organization and Functions Guidebook:
The Secretary of Defense is the principal defense policy advisor to the
President and is responsible for the formulation of general defense policy
and policy related to all matters of direct and primary concern to the DoD,
and for the execution of approved policy. Under the direction of the
President, the Secretary exercises authority, direction, and control over
the Department of Defense.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.defenselink.mil/odam/omp/pubs/Guid
eBook/ToC.htm
SCARBOROUGH: Tucker Carlson, should Donald Rumsfeld be fired?
CARLSON: I think a lot of the hostility here is misplaced. You know,
people are angry about our Iraq policy; I'm one of them; I'm angry about our
Iraq policy. But that's not Rumsfeld's fault, in the end.
He didn't dream up the invasion of Iraq. He doesn't have the power to
execute it. That's something the president did. That's also something
members of Congress endorsed by their vote in the run-up to war. Those are
the people you ought to be angry at.
I do think General [Barry] McCaffrey is absolutely right: He showed
bad judgment, really, from day one, when he made these sort of light-hearted
statements about the looting in Baghdad, the disorder that broke out, that
we've never really gotten under control since then. He clearly has some
judgment problems, but, from a macro point of view, this is not his fault.
He was executing policy that was dreamed up by other people.
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| User: "2474 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: Tucker Carlson: "Iraq not Rumsfeld's fault" |
03 Jun 2006 08:22:50 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 16:53:15 -0700,
(the_blogologist) wrote:
This is total *****. Rumsfeld is doing an outstanding job indicated
by the extremely light losses in Iraq. Rumsfeld figured out how to
pasify the enemy in Afghanistan with only 5% of the troops the Army
asked for. Rumsfeld also joined Nixon's team from the start, and we know
how US losses dropped off sharply soon after Nixon took over the Vietnam
War:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6545/vietnamwarstats8zn.jpg
I would be fascinated to know who Tucker the Fucker had in mind when
he said "other people".
Jon Stewart, perhaps?
Smell Of Bush? DEATH <spit@bush.net> wrote:
Carlson: "Iraq policy" not "Rumsfeld's fault" because he was just "executing
policy that was dreamed up by other people"
Summary: On MSNBC's Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson said problems with
"Iraq policy" are not Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's "fault"
because Rumsfeld was "executing policy that was dreamed up by other people."
The functions of the Secretary of Defense, according to the Department of
Defense's Organization and Functions Guidebook:
The Secretary of Defense is the principal defense policy advisor to the
President and is responsible for the formulation of general defense policy
and policy related to all matters of direct and primary concern to the DoD,
and for the execution of approved policy. Under the direction of the
President, the Secretary exercises authority, direction, and control over
the Department of Defense.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.defenselink.mil/odam/omp/pubs/Guid
eBook/ToC.htm
SCARBOROUGH: Tucker Carlson, should Donald Rumsfeld be fired?
CARLSON: I think a lot of the hostility here is misplaced. You know,
people are angry about our Iraq policy; I'm one of them; I'm angry about our
Iraq policy. But that's not Rumsfeld's fault, in the end.
He didn't dream up the invasion of Iraq. He doesn't have the power to
execute it. That's something the president did. That's also something
members of Congress endorsed by their vote in the run-up to war. Those are
the people you ought to be angry at.
I do think General [Barry] McCaffrey is absolutely right: He showed
bad judgment, really, from day one, when he made these sort of light-hearted
statements about the looting in Baghdad, the disorder that broke out, that
we've never really gotten under control since then. He clearly has some
judgment problems, but, from a macro point of view, this is not his fault.
He was executing policy that was dreamed up by other people.
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