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Uh-oh: With U.S. military stetched thin abroad, world's most dangerous street gang uniting nationwide inside U.S. |
I'm certainly not "into" firearms at all (in fact, I haven't touched a
gun since my short Armed Forces career many years ago) but this looks like
a d*mn good time to think about stocking-up on self/family-defense tools
for what's coming.
An aside that seems apropos right now: One day while browsing the shelves
of a local library shortly after moving to California (this was right
before the Internet really took-off) I chanced upon a book about the 1965
riots in Los Angeles. I clearly recall thinking to myself how unimaginable,
unlikely and far-fetched another such situation of full-scale homicidal
rioting, looting and violent mayhem in the streets of the nation's
second-biggest city seemed to be.
The devastating "Rodney King riots" exploded in Los Angeles about two
years later. I couldn't go to work and police in my L.A. suburb "rode
shotgun" as the riots actually creeped (and many probably are unaware of
this) well into L.A.'s suburbs.
And GUESS who was actually doing MOST of the rioting? I know, I know, the
electronic media kept replaying the horrific video clip of white trucker
Reginald Denny's near-fatal attack by blacks. However, the FACT is that
MOST of the rioting and looting was in fact being done by illegal aliens.
And guess what else? As per the LAPD as reported in a lengthy Los Angeles
Times series a few years ago, it was during the 1992 "Rodney King riots"
that the illegal alien street gang discussed below really came into its
own.
Even as I write this, one state senator who researched the matter has
found that at least 25 Americans are *already* being killed by illegal
aliens every single day in the USA. When the SHTF -- and do you know anyone
who's been paying attention who DOESN'T think it's eventually going to? --
that figure may very well wind up being a drop in the bucket compared to
what's coming.
If you think this post makes sense please consider forwarding it to other
Americans you care about.
-- GWA
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MS-13 gang seeks to unite nationwide
By Sara A. Carter
July 25, 2007
The international street gang MS-13 is unifying its violent members
across the U.S., including the D.C. area, attempting to strengthen its
criminal operation by creating a single organization.
"Traditionally, the gang consisted of loosely affiliated groups known as
cliques; however, law enforcement officials have reported increased
coordination of criminal activity among Mara Salvatrucha cliques in the
Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., and New York metropolitan
areas," states a confidential letter sent out earlier this month from the
U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of Illinois.
"MS-13 is attempting to become a unified criminal enterprise operating
under one leadership."
The Washington Times has obtained a copy of the letter and an Army
intelligence presentation on the growth of MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha.
Federal law-enforcement agents say the gang is adopting tactics used by
major Mexican and Colombian drug-trafficking groups and has become a
gun-for-hire for many major Central and South American drug-trafficking
cartels.
"Indications that previously independent cliques are forming alliances
with other MS-13 cliques, as well as with other gangs to facilitate
criminal activity, further heighten the threat," the letter continued. "It
would be dangerous to look at MS-13 as just another street gang."
Agents for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) say that the gangs'
tactics are terroristic but question whether the small groups can unify
under one leader.
"These gang members are some of the most brutal people we have ever
encountered," said a DEA intelligence officer on the condition of
anonymity. "Whether they are unifying, well that's more difficult to tell.
In some cases yes and in other cases no.
"But a unified criminal enterprise between all groups ¡X it could happen.
We'll have to wait and see. What we know is that they're getting stronger."
According to the DEA, the gangs' major source of income is narcotics and
arms trafficking. Human trafficking and extortion also are becoming
lucrative enterprises for them, the DEA agent said.
MS-13, which began as a Los Angeles street gang, is responsible for
thousands of killings and mutilations in the United States, Mexico and
Central America. MS-13 rival gang Mara 18, based in El Salvador, is just as
violent and recruited more members internationally, said detective Patrick
Word of Gaithersburg, president of the Mid-Atlantic Regional Gang
Investigators Network.
"While showing some regional alignment between cliques," Mr. Word said.
"MS-13 is still showing no signs that it is unifying nationally or
transnationally ... There is just no one leader or even a group of
leaders."
But others on the federal level disagree. The letter and presentation
suggest that MS-13 has an estimated 96,000 members internationally.
"Mara Salvatrucha members typically are Salvadoran nationals or
first-generation Salvadoran-Americans; however, many cliques in the United
States now accept members from Belize, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras,
Nicaragua and Mexico," the letter stated.
There are an estimated 20,000 members associated with 125 cliques in the
U.S. alone. As of 2003, DEA and FBI officials have located groups in 30
states, plus the District.
Although the group began as a small street gang in Los Angeles, it spread
quickly to El Salvador as many illegal alien members were deported from the
U.S. for criminal activity. Many of those deported began to recruit new
members throughout Central America.
The viciousness of the gang killings is displayed in a U.S. Army
intelligence presentation which included graphic photos. One photograph
shows the Roman numerals for 18 carved into, and then slashed over, the
severed head of a Salvadoran woman suspected of Mara 18 ties. A second
photo shows a dismembered baby lying in brush.
"They can function as networks, with extensive transnational linkages,"
the Army presentation stated. "Their internal functions include recruiting,
logistics, attacks, intelligence [collecting and propaganda], and
activities including murders, drugs, extortion and others."
The Salvadoran Policia National Civil recognize MS-13 as "organized
crime" and they leave death in their wake with hundreds, if not thousands,
of killings from El Salvador to the U.S. annually.
On Monday, Oscar Ramos Velasquez of Baltimore, an MS-13 gang member, was
sentenced to 37 years in prison, followed by five years of supervised
release for conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering, conspiracy
to participate in a racketeering enterprise, and conspiracy to commit
assaults with a deadly weapon.
"This sentence should serve as a warning to young people who are tempted
to join gangs like MS-13, that you may pay for that decision for the rest
of your life," said U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein. "Federal, state and
local authorities will continue to work together to combat violent gangs in
Maryland."
Velasquez is one of 14 MS-13 members who have been convicted in this
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act conspiracy case.
MS-13 is also the largest gang in Northern Virginia and groups associated
with the gang are growing in Montgomery County, Md., as well, said Virginia
state Sen. Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, Fairfax County Republican.
"At my level of government, what frustrates me the most is that so many
people stand in the way of tough policies against illegal immigration," Mr.
Cuccinelli said. "They either ignore it or don't understand the connection
to public safety, security and the community's well-being."
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070725/NATION/107250083/1001
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PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
"The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald
www.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
www.PredatoryAliens.com
www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org
www.DayLaborers.org
www.Alipac.us
www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com
www.AmericanPatrol.com
www.SaveOurState.org
www.EscapingJustice.com
www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org
See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:
www.ImmigrationCounters.com
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"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
-- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
(Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
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¡§How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico¡¨
By John Dillin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
Excerpt:
¡§General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
highlighting one paragraph that said: ¡¥The rise in illegal border-crossing
by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation
in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters
of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal
Government ..."
¡§Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the
president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took
office.
¡§America ¡¥was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large
scale,¡¦ Mr. Brownell said. ¡¥When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of
thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.¡¦"
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Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals:
www.DeputyDavidMarch.com
www.KrisEggle.org
"Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in
criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security
numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent
some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on
a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In
addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also
prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison
population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of
felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal
aliens."
-- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House
Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of
warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd
most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens]
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
men."
-- Samuel Adams
"¡§All great truths begin as heresies.¡¨
-- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of
Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration
and public services for illegal aliens
WHAT WOULD THE FOUNDING FATHERS DO? ...
If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is
then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of
self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government ... The
citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert,
without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair ...
The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is greater than in
a small, and of course more competent to a struggle with the
attempts of the government to establish a tyranny ... the people, without
exaggeration, may be said to be entirely the masters of their
own fate.
-- Alexander Hamilton
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
-- Thomas Jefferson
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any
government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
-- Thomas Jefferson
We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government
by the majority who participate.
-- Thomas Jefferson
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to
remain silent.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people
alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.
-- Thomas Jefferson
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of
principle, stand like a rock.
-- Thomas Jefferson
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
-- Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government.
-- Thomas Jefferson
As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now let us show
them we can fight like men also.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks
and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will
delineate and define you.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not
constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their
gains.
-- Thomas Jefferson
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial
by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
-- Thomas Jefferson
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties
than standing armies.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own
kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the
rich on the poor.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government
those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations,
perverted it into tyranny.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| Title: Re: Uh-oh: With U.S. military stetched thin abroad, world's most dangerous street gang uniting nationwide inside U.S. |
30 Jul 2007 08:35:15 PM |
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"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in message
news:w8ut9h47waxm.12774d8ic9wrm.dlg@40tude.net...
I'm certainly not "into" firearms at all (in fact, I haven't touched a
gun since my short Armed Forces career many years ago) but this looks like
a d*mn good time to think about stocking-up on self/family-defense tools
for what's coming.
An aside that seems apropos right now: One day while browsing the shelves
of a local library shortly after moving to California (this was right
before the Internet really took-off) I chanced upon a book about the 1965
riots in Los Angeles. I clearly recall thinking to myself how
unimaginable,
unlikely and far-fetched another such situation of full-scale homicidal
rioting, looting and violent mayhem in the streets of the nation's
second-biggest city seemed to be.
The devastating "Rodney King riots" exploded in Los Angeles about two
years later. I couldn't go to work and police in my L.A. suburb "rode
shotgun" as the riots actually creeped (and many probably are unaware of
this) well into L.A.'s suburbs.
And GUESS who was actually doing MOST of the rioting? I know, I know, the
electronic media kept replaying the horrific video clip of white trucker
Reginald Denny's near-fatal attack by blacks. However, the FACT is that
MOST of the rioting and looting was in fact being done by illegal aliens.
And guess what else? As per the LAPD as reported in a lengthy Los Angeles
Times series a few years ago, it was during the 1992 "Rodney King riots"
that the illegal alien street gang discussed below really came into its
own.
Even as I write this, one state senator who researched the matter has
found that at least 25 Americans are *already* being killed by illegal
aliens every single day in the USA. When the SHTF -- and do you know
anyone
who's been paying attention who DOESN'T think it's eventually going to? --
that figure may very well wind up being a drop in the bucket compared to
what's coming.
If you think this post makes sense please consider forwarding it to other
Americans you care about.
-- GWA
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MS-13 gang seeks to unite nationwide
By Sara A. Carter
July 25, 2007
The international street gang MS-13 is unifying its violent members
across the U.S., including the D.C. area, attempting to strengthen its
criminal operation by creating a single organization.
"Traditionally, the gang consisted of loosely affiliated groups known as
cliques; however, law enforcement officials have reported increased
coordination of criminal activity among Mara Salvatrucha cliques in the
Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., and New York metropolitan
areas," states a confidential letter sent out earlier this month from the
U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of Illinois.
"MS-13 is attempting to become a unified criminal enterprise operating
under one leadership."
The Washington Times has obtained a copy of the letter and an Army
intelligence presentation on the growth of MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha.
Federal law-enforcement agents say the gang is adopting tactics used by
major Mexican and Colombian drug-trafficking groups and has become a
gun-for-hire for many major Central and South American drug-trafficking
cartels.
"Indications that previously independent cliques are forming alliances
with other MS-13 cliques, as well as with other gangs to facilitate
criminal activity, further heighten the threat," the letter continued. "It
would be dangerous to look at MS-13 as just another street gang."
Agents for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) say that the gangs'
tactics are terroristic but question whether the small groups can unify
under one leader.
"These gang members are some of the most brutal people we have ever
encountered," said a DEA intelligence officer on the condition of
anonymity. "Whether they are unifying, well that's more difficult to tell.
In some cases yes and in other cases no.
"But a unified criminal enterprise between all groups ¡X it could happen.
We'll have to wait and see. What we know is that they're getting
stronger."
According to the DEA, the gangs' major source of income is narcotics and
arms trafficking. Human trafficking and extortion also are becoming
lucrative enterprises for them, the DEA agent said.
MS-13, which began as a Los Angeles street gang, is responsible for
thousands of killings and mutilations in the United States, Mexico and
Central America. MS-13 rival gang Mara 18, based in El Salvador, is just
as
violent and recruited more members internationally, said detective Patrick
Word of Gaithersburg, president of the Mid-Atlantic Regional Gang
Investigators Network.
"While showing some regional alignment between cliques," Mr. Word said.
"MS-13 is still showing no signs that it is unifying nationally or
transnationally ... There is just no one leader or even a group of
leaders."
But others on the federal level disagree. The letter and presentation
suggest that MS-13 has an estimated 96,000 members internationally.
"Mara Salvatrucha members typically are Salvadoran nationals or
first-generation Salvadoran-Americans; however, many cliques in the United
States now accept members from Belize, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras,
Nicaragua and Mexico," the letter stated.
There are an estimated 20,000 members associated with 125 cliques in the
U.S. alone. As of 2003, DEA and FBI officials have located groups in 30
states, plus the District.
Although the group began as a small street gang in Los Angeles, it spread
quickly to El Salvador as many illegal alien members were deported from
the
U.S. for criminal activity. Many of those deported began to recruit new
members throughout Central America.
The viciousness of the gang killings is displayed in a U.S. Army
intelligence presentation which included graphic photos. One photograph
shows the Roman numerals for 18 carved into, and then slashed over, the
severed head of a Salvadoran woman suspected of Mara 18 ties. A second
photo shows a dismembered baby lying in brush.
"They can function as networks, with extensive transnational linkages,"
the Army presentation stated. "Their internal functions include
recruiting,
logistics, attacks, intelligence [collecting and propaganda], and
activities including murders, drugs, extortion and others."
The Salvadoran Policia National Civil recognize MS-13 as "organized
crime" and they leave death in their wake with hundreds, if not thousands,
of killings from El Salvador to the U.S. annually.
On Monday, Oscar Ramos Velasquez of Baltimore, an MS-13 gang member, was
sentenced to 37 years in prison, followed by five years of supervised
release for conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering, conspiracy
to participate in a racketeering enterprise, and conspiracy to commit
assaults with a deadly weapon.
"This sentence should serve as a warning to young people who are tempted
to join gangs like MS-13, that you may pay for that decision for the rest
of your life," said U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein. "Federal, state and
local authorities will continue to work together to combat violent gangs
in
Maryland."
Velasquez is one of 14 MS-13 members who have been convicted in this
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act conspiracy case.
MS-13 is also the largest gang in Northern Virginia and groups associated
with the gang are growing in Montgomery County, Md., as well, said
Virginia
state Sen. Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, Fairfax County Republican.
"At my level of government, what frustrates me the most is that so many
people stand in the way of tough policies against illegal immigration,"
Mr.
Cuccinelli said. "They either ignore it or don't understand the connection
to public safety, security and the community's well-being."
I can't speak for the current status of gang activity (I'd imagine many
more hispanic gang members in L.A. now than during the Rodney King riot
days), but it was clearly blacks that did most of the damage and looting
during those riots.
The spark came in April 1992, when all four officers in the Rodney King case
were cleared of assault. Within hours, violence erupted across the city's
black neighbourhoods.
Fifty-five people were killed in several days of rioting, looting and
retaliatory attacks against whites and Asians. About 2,000 people were
injured, and another 12,000 arrested.
More than $1bn worth of property was damaged and the National Guard was
deployed to help police restore order.
Independent
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| User: "Timothy Crowley" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-oh: With U.S. military stetched thin abroad, world's most dangerous street gang uniting nationwide inside U.S. |
31 Jul 2007 10:49:27 AM |
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On Jul 29, 11:37 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer <guybanniste...@aol.com>
wrote:
If you think this post makes sense please consider forwarding it to other
Americans you care about.
NOTHING you racist scum post makes sense. You just lie and lie and
lie. Why do you lie? Never mind, we know exactly why your kkkult
makes you lie.
newsgroups trimmed, since you ARE a spamming coward.
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| User: "Rudy Canoza" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-oh: With U.S. military stetched thin abroad, world's mostdangerous street gang uniting nationwide inside U.S. |
31 Jul 2007 11:29:48 AM |
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Timothy Crowley wrote:
On Jul 29, 11:37 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer <guybanniste...@aol.com>
wrote:
If you think this post makes sense please consider forwarding it to other
Americans you care about.
NOTHING you racist scum post makes sense. You just lie and lie and
lie. Why do you lie?
timmmmmmmie, you lying racist bigot - MS13 is a serious
menace. Why do you support street gangs, timmmmmmmie,
you criminal-coddling scum?
Leave the headers alone, ***** - the original
poster selected them for a reason.
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