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25 Jul 2006 11:28:51 AM |
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US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains |
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
By Carolyn Koo
NEW YORK (Reuters) -
Gasoline prices at near-record highs are fueling a big increase in the
number of riders on buses and trains, prompting cities around the
country to improve their public transport systems, transportation
agencies said on Tuesday.
The Energy Information Administration, the U.S. government's top
energy forecasting agency, on Monday said the average U.S. retail
gasoline price increased 71 cents over a year ago to $3 a gallon, the
second highest pump price ever.
The highest price, $3.057 a gallon, came in the wake of Hurricane
Katrina last summer.
If that experience is any indication, it showed Americans can indeed
be forced from their cars at the right price.
"Around the time Katrina hit and the gas prices started approaching
$3, we began to hear from our members that they were seeing large
spikes in ridership," William Millar, president of the American Public
Transport Association, said.
"There were literally dozens of cities that were seeing double-digit
increases."
It's estimated that U.S. riders of public transport save 855 million
gallons of gasoline a year, or $2.56 billion at current average prices
for a gallon of regular gasoline, according to the APTA.
The APTA and transportation agencies around the country are optimistic
they'll continue enjoying increased ridership as gasoline prices go
up.
In the first quarter, as gas prices started to surge again, public
transportation ridership rose 4.25 percent nationwide, representing
almost 2.5 billion trips, the APTA said.
The increase "seems to relate very largely to gas prices," Millar
said.
"Hearing anecdotally from our members about their second quarter
numbers, it would appear that trend is continuing."
LOCAL TAXES TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS
Websites are helping to make a difference, with several transit
systems around the nation, including Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Dallas,
enjoying increased hits on their sites.
"You might look at that as an indication of future business," said
Millar.
Traffic on the Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) website has "gone up
and actually spiked with the rises in gas prices," said DART spokesman
Morgan Lyons.
The boost in ridership has many of the country's transit systems
looking to make improvements, with ballot initiatives asking voters
for permission to raise local taxes for public transit or to continue
taxes that were scheduled to end.
For instance, Salt Lake City, where ridership is up 43 percent versus
a year ago, is asking the public this fall for $900 million to add 30
miles of tracks to the city's light rail system in a project that is
expected to cost $1.2 billion.
Polling indicates 93 percent of voters in the area want a chance to
vote on the initiative, with 65 percent of them saying they would
approve the plan, according to Utah Transit Authority spokesman Justin
Jones.
"You have to have the demand in order to justify doing that," said
Joan Hunter, a spokeswoman for the Fort Worth Transportation
Authority.
"I think now the interest for the first time in years is really high."
_________________________________________________________
Yes. Way to go.
Harry
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| User: "Dion" |
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25 Jul 2006 11:48:15 AM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:6rhcc2p60rp06rlg877i4jjod1itissv1r@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
You should see the Rick Santorum political ads. The guy's a U S senator who
is running political ads that insinuate ALL Middle Eastern people are
terrorists and they're responsible for the high oil prices.
--
Dion
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
"The President has broken the law,
and the censure resolution I introduced
is intended to hold him accountable.
Nobody says that we shouldn't be
monitoring suspected terrorists. Of
course we should, and we can under
current law. We have yet to hear a
reasonable argument from the president
or anyone else why it was necessary to
break the law." Russ Feingold
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| User: "Tazmanian Devil" |
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| Title: Re: US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains |
25 Jul 2006 01:57:29 PM |
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"Dion" <dion@noreturn.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:6rhcc2p60rp06rlg877i4jjod1itissv1r@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
You should see the Rick Santorum political ads. The guy's a U S senator
who
is running political ads that insinuate ALL Middle Eastern people are
terrorists and they're responsible for the high oil prices.
--
Dion
His campaign money would be more wisely (albiet unscrupulously, but we are
talking about Slick Rick) spent paying off the voting machine companies.
That's the only shot at winning that he has. It's too bad the likely winner,
Casey, is a rightwing DINO.
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
"The President has broken the law,
and the censure resolution I introduced
is intended to hold him accountable.
Nobody says that we shouldn't be
monitoring suspected terrorists. Of
course we should, and we can under
current law. We have yet to hear a
reasonable argument from the president
or anyone else why it was necessary to
break the law." Russ Feingold
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| User: "Grendel" |
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| Title: Re: US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains |
25 Jul 2006 02:12:09 PM |
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Dion wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:6rhcc2p60rp06rlg877i4jjod1itissv1r@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
You should see the Rick Santorum political ads. The guy's a U S senator who
is running political ads that insinuate ALL Middle Eastern people are
terrorists and they're responsible for the high oil prices.
--
Dion
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
"The President has broken the law,
and the censure resolution I introduced
is intended to hold him accountable.
Nobody says that we shouldn't be
monitoring suspected terrorists. Of
course we should, and we can under
current law. We have yet to hear a
reasonable argument from the president
or anyone else why it was necessary to
break the law." Russ Feingold
You can quote the censure measure all you want. When called on it to
vote, the Democrats ran like the pussies they are.
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| User: "Dion" |
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25 Jul 2006 02:38:35 PM |
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"Grendel" <wsthomas@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1153854729.020207.74360@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Dion wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:6rhcc2p60rp06rlg877i4jjod1itissv1r@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
You should see the Rick Santorum political ads. The guy's a U S senator
who
is running political ads that insinuate ALL Middle Eastern people are
terrorists and they're responsible for the high oil prices.
--
Dion
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
"The President has broken the law,
and the censure resolution I introduced
is intended to hold him accountable.
Nobody says that we shouldn't be
monitoring suspected terrorists. Of
course we should, and we can under
current law. We have yet to hear a
reasonable argument from the president
or anyone else why it was necessary to
break the law." Russ Feingold
You can quote the censure measure all you want. When called on it to
vote, the Democrats ran like the pussies they are.
Yes, thank you. I will post the censure measure. Feingold isn't the average
***** Democrat. He has morals, unlike most politicians of either party.
--
Dion
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
"The President has broken the law,
and the censure resolution I introduced
is intended to hold him accountable.
Nobody says that we shouldn't be
monitoring suspected terrorists. Of
course we should, and we can under
current law. We have yet to hear a
reasonable argument from the president
or anyone else why it was necessary to
break the law." Russ Feingold
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| User: "Tazmanian Devil" |
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| Title: Re: US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains |
25 Jul 2006 01:52:52 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:6rhcc2p60rp06rlg877i4jjod1itissv1r@4ax.com...
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
By Carolyn Koo
NEW YORK (Reuters) -
Gasoline prices at near-record highs are fueling a big increase in the
number of riders on buses and trains, prompting cities around the
country to improve their public transport systems, transportation
agencies said on Tuesday.
The Energy Information Administration, the U.S. government's top
energy forecasting agency, on Monday said the average U.S. retail
gasoline price increased 71 cents over a year ago to $3 a gallon, the
second highest pump price ever.
The highest price, $3.057 a gallon, came in the wake of Hurricane
Katrina last summer.
If that experience is any indication, it showed Americans can indeed
be forced from their cars at the right price.
"Around the time Katrina hit and the gas prices started approaching
$3, we began to hear from our members that they were seeing large
spikes in ridership," William Millar, president of the American Public
Transport Association, said.
"There were literally dozens of cities that were seeing double-digit
increases."
It's estimated that U.S. riders of public transport save 855 million
gallons of gasoline a year, or $2.56 billion at current average prices
for a gallon of regular gasoline, according to the APTA.
The APTA and transportation agencies around the country are optimistic
they'll continue enjoying increased ridership as gasoline prices go
up.
In the first quarter, as gas prices started to surge again, public
transportation ridership rose 4.25 percent nationwide, representing
almost 2.5 billion trips, the APTA said.
The increase "seems to relate very largely to gas prices," Millar
said.
"Hearing anecdotally from our members about their second quarter
numbers, it would appear that trend is continuing."
LOCAL TAXES TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS
Websites are helping to make a difference, with several transit
systems around the nation, including Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Dallas,
enjoying increased hits on their sites.
"You might look at that as an indication of future business," said
Millar.
Traffic on the Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) website has "gone up
and actually spiked with the rises in gas prices," said DART spokesman
Morgan Lyons.
The boost in ridership has many of the country's transit systems
looking to make improvements, with ballot initiatives asking voters
for permission to raise local taxes for public transit or to continue
taxes that were scheduled to end.
For instance, Salt Lake City, where ridership is up 43 percent versus
a year ago, is asking the public this fall for $900 million to add 30
miles of tracks to the city's light rail system in a project that is
expected to cost $1.2 billion.
Polling indicates 93 percent of voters in the area want a chance to
vote on the initiative, with 65 percent of them saying they would
approve the plan, according to Utah Transit Authority spokesman Justin
Jones.
"You have to have the demand in order to justify doing that," said
Joan Hunter, a spokeswoman for the Fort Worth Transportation
Authority.
"I think now the interest for the first time in years is really high."
_________________________________________________________
Yes. Way to go.
Harry
Mass transit is another area that the Right has ignored. Maybe if they see
ca$h to be made, they'll improve things. They wouldn't do it just because it
was the right thing to do.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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25 Jul 2006 09:09:33 PM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
It hasn't made a dent in the rightard SUV morons here in California.
---
"So, Mister Horse, how well do you think Custer
performed in this fine sporting event this evening?"
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| User: "jmcgill" |
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25 Jul 2006 12:01:00 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
Has anyone, anywhere, observed reduced *traffic* as a result?
I am wondering when the price of gas will start to have any effect
at reducing the amount of *drag racing* that goes on.
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| User: "Nicik Name" |
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26 Jul 2006 02:50:47 AM |
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"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
Has anyone, anywhere, observed reduced *traffic* as a result?
I am wondering when the price of gas will start to have any effect
at reducing the amount of *drag racing* that goes on.
I live downwind from a good size lake.
My unscientific observation is that trailer boat traffic going by the house
is down about 50% as compared to recent years past.
Small general aviation traffic activity on weekends is down also at the
local airport.
Gas stations like Shell, Mobil,Exxon,are dead as compared to the Citco
stations nearby which charge less p/g.
Fewer RV,s on the nearby interstate.
I detect a small increase in used SUV,s and pickup trucks for sale on front
lawns and curbside.
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| User: " Mika" |
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26 Jul 2006 05:39:29 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:50:47 GMT, "Nicik Name" <orbits@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
Fewer RV,s on the nearby interstate.
I detect a small increase in used SUV,s and pickup trucks for sale on front
lawns and curbside.
What you do for living? Three dollars isn´t expensive. In Europe we
pay twice as much (because gas is important source of tax revenue),
and I have never thought of riding city bus because gas is over
6USD/gallon. My next car will be diesel, though ;)
Mika
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A bad day on the water is better than a great day on land.
Lähetätkö e-mailia? Vaihda osoitteen eka (vai oliko se toka?)
kahdeksikko numeroksi viisi.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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25 Jul 2006 02:09:29 PM |
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"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
Has anyone, anywhere, observed reduced *traffic* as a result?
Only at 'optional driving' times, like Sunday afternoons.
I am wondering when the price of gas will start to have any effect
at reducing the amount of *drag racing* that goes on.
Drag racing? lol Probably at $30 a gallon.
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| User: "Big Al" |
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25 Jul 2006 09:37:00 PM |
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"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
Has anyone, anywhere, observed reduced *traffic* as a result?
I am wondering when the price of gas will start to have any effect
at reducing the amount of *drag racing* that goes on.
Not according to the EIA (they will release another weekly petroleum report
tomorrow).
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twip.asp
News Flash: High Gasoline Prices Do Restrain Demand
Recently, there has been a lot of discussion concerning the impact of higher
gasoline prices on demand. Data released earlier today, showing gasoline
demand over the last four weeks up 1.9 percent compared to a year ago, raise
the question of how can gasoline demand be growing at a rate within the 1.5
to 2 percent range experienced during periods of significantly lower
gasoline prices, even when the national average price for regular gasoline
is close to $3 per gallon? >
$3 gas and demand is STILL UP 1.9% over last year. Sounds like "constraining
demand" to me.
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| User: "Big Al" |
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26 Jul 2006 08:49:54 PM |
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"Big Al" <bigald1@sbcglobal.net.spamsucks> wrote in message
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"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
Has anyone, anywhere, observed reduced *traffic* as a result?
I am wondering when the price of gas will start to have any effect
at reducing the amount of *drag racing* that goes on.
Not according to the EIA (they will release another weekly petroleum
report tomorrow).
From today's report"
Over the last four weeks, motor gasoline
demand has averaged 9.6 million barrels per day, or 1.8 percent
above the same period last year. Distillate fuel demand has
averaged nearly 4.2 million barrels per day over the last four weeks,
or 6.2 percent above the same period last year. Jet fuel demand is up
0.3 percent over the last four weeks compared to the same
four-week period last year.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/weekly_petroleum_status_report/current/pdf/wpsrall.pdf
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/twip.asp
News Flash: High Gasoline Prices Do Restrain Demand
Recently, there has been a lot of discussion concerning the impact of
higher gasoline prices on demand. Data released earlier today, showing
gasoline demand over the last four weeks up 1.9 percent compared to a year
ago, raise the question of how can gasoline demand be growing at a rate
within the 1.5 to 2 percent range experienced during periods of
significantly lower gasoline prices, even when the national average price
for regular gasoline is close to $3 per gallon? >
$3 gas and demand is STILL UP 1.9% over last year. Sounds like
"constraining demand" to me.
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| User: "jmcgill" |
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26 Jul 2006 09:07:03 PM |
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Big Al wrote:
From today's report"
Over the last four weeks, motor gasoline
demand has averaged 9.6 million barrels per day, or 1.8 percent
So... the Fox style spin would be, "demand has fallen off as much as a
TENTH of a percent this week alone. Stay tuned as we bring you a Fox
News Special Report."
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25 Jul 2006 05:31:00 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From Reuters, 7/25/06:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060725/ts_nm/energy_us_publictransport_dc
US gasoline at $3 drives people onto buses, trains
"I think now the interest for the first time in years is really high."
_________________________________________________________
Yes. Way to go.
Harry
Well and good for those who are forced to live in urban hive
environments..
But an impossible alternative for people who live in normal
environments.
Buses and rail are not universally ubiquitous 24-7.
What is needed instead is to develop national policy to secure energy
sources that do not squeeze the economic life out of families and the
nation. (besides getting an administration that wouldn't tolerate oil
price manipulation)
One amazingly simple alternative would be to contracturally secure the
output of the Canadian Alberta Oil Sands - which could produce *all*
the oil that the US might need *for the next 200 years*. !!!
Repeata:
"which could produce *all* the oil that the US might need *for the next
200 years*. !!! "
No mess, no fuss, no stinking globalist middle-east messes.
Again:
"which could produce *all* the oil that the US might need *for the next
200 years*. !!! "
No conversion costs. No alternative technologies.
Now then.. What is not understood?
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