Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

John Ortega wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in
news:j9adnb65GfA4twXanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@speakeasy.net:

Waco mass murder remains unprosecuted

Sorry, but the guy who changed his name to "David Koresh" and claimed
to be "The Lamb of God who was slain for the sins of the World,"
killed himself and ordered all of his followers to burn themselves to
death to cover up their sexscapades and pedophilia and illegal
weapons trade. At least that's the story some of the survivors of the
doosday cultists have given in several public interviews I have seen
on the television.

"In mid March, 1993, I attended a senior-level executive staff meeting
at CIA headquarters; and it involved senior Agency management along
with liaison officers from the US military; in particular from Delta
Group. The briefing centered on Delta's operation in Waco Texas.

Originally I was told there was just gonna be one or two Delta
personnel
there as observers, but during the briefing it was mentioned that
there was over ten Delta operators at Waco Texas; and they were not
there merely as observers, but would be participating in any type of
operational or tactical effort against the Branch Davidians.

Approximately a year after the Waco incident, I was deployed overseas
in
Europe, and had a chance to meet some of the Delta operators that had
been on previous assignments. That had told me, on several different
occasions, during my meetings with them in Europe, that not only were
they forwardly deployed at Waco Texas, but they were actually involved
in a gunfight(sic) with the Branch Davidians." ~ Gene Cullen, Senior
Case Officer, Special Operations Group, CIA

"I did talk to some Combat Applications Group [Delta Force] guys, and
they did confirm that, yes, portions of B Squadron were there pulling
triggers." ~ SFC Steven M. Barry, US Army Special Forces, Ret.

"There's no doubt in my mind that the flashes on FLIR tape was fire
from a
semiautomatic or automatic weapons fire being returned(sic) into the
building. I mean, it's inconsistent to think otherwise.

There were people on the ground with automatic weapons, and flashes
such as
that only comes from one thing. It comes from rifle barrels that are
firing back(sic) into the building." ~ Gene Cullen, Senior Case
Officer, Special Operations Group, CIA

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showConnection.php?id1=6713&id2=6676

Vince Foster

Linda Tripp - Hillary Ordered Waco Slaughter & Clinton Abused Monica


www.newsmax.com/archive/print.shtml?a=2001/2/10/1048152-11-1

Hillary Clinton pressured the late Vince Foster to resolve the 1993
Waco
standoff in a move that led to the deaths of more than 80 men, women and
children, former White House aide Linda Tripp charged in an interview
Friday night.

Tripp also alleged that Monica Lewinsky was more of a victim of Bill
Clinton's sexual predations than the former White House intern has
publicly acknowledged.

Appearing on CNN's "Larry King Live," Tripp suggested that Foster, at
Mrs. Clinton's direction, transmitted the order to move on the Branch
Davidian's Waco compound, which culminated in a military-style tear gas
attack on the wooden structure.

The compound burst into flames hours later as federal troops used a
U.S.
Army tank to ram the building and insert flammable gas.

Tripp described Foster's demeanor as "dignified, decent, caring,
smart"
during his early days at the White House. But when Waco happened, she
said, "that's when I first knew that Vince was falling apart."

Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park three months later.

Tripp said she was with the former deputy White House counsel when
the
news of the Waco assault broke on television.

"A special bulletin came on showing the atrocity at Waco and the
children. And his face, his whole body slumped, and his face turned
white, and he was absolutely crushed knowing - knowing the part he had
played."

"And he had played the part at Mrs. Clinton's direction," charged
Tripp.

Tripp was stunned by the contrast between Foster's heartfelt emotion
at
the Waco tragedy and what she observed from Mrs. Clinton.

"Her reaction, on the other hand, was heartless," Tripp told King,
adding, "I can only tell you what I saw."

When asked how the decision to move on Waco was transmitted, Tripp
said, "Foster, Mrs. Clinton, [deputy Attorney General] Webb Hubbell,
[Attorney General] Janet Reno."

Tripp's new charge corroborates allegations first leveled in the 1999
documentary on the deadly confrontation, "Waco: A New Revelation."

In the film, director Michael McNulty included the account of former
House Waco investigator T. March Bell.

"One of the interesting things that happens in an investigation is
that
you get anonymous phone calls," Bell explains in the film.

"And we in fact received anonymous phone calls from Justice
Department
managers and attorneys who believe that pressure was placed on Janet Reno
by Webb Hubbell, pressure that came from the first lady of the United
States."

At the film's premiere, Bell told NewsMax.com that phone logs
obtained
by House investigators indicated that Mrs. Clinton, Foster and Hubbell
worked on Waco together.

"Those phone logs were Webb Hubbell's phone logs. There were calls
from
the first lady and Vince Foster to Webb Hubbell's office" during the Waco
crisis, he said.

Bell said Mrs. Clinton grew more and more impatient as the Waco
standoff
came to dominate the headlines during the early months of the Clinton
administration. It was she, Bell's source claims, who pressured a
reluctant Janet Reno to act.

Reno, on the other hand, was not enthusiastic about launching the
assault, said Bell. "Give me a reason not to do this," she is said to
have begged aides.

In another explosive revelation, Tripp charged that the president's
relationship with Monica Lewinsky included an element of abuse.

"This was abuse of a child," she told King. "Don't ever believe that
this was consensual sex. And [Clinton] went to extraordinary lengths to
cover that up. Criminal lengths."

The former White House insider said that the then-21-year-old
Lewinsky
was "a mixed-up, unstable, volatile child" who became emotionally
overwhelmed by her involvement with Clinton.

"Monica is 21 going on 14 on a good day," Tripp said.

In 1998, Tripp told investigators that Lewinsky's private
descriptions
of her encounters with Clinton included the infliction of pain.

"I don't mean abusive," Tripp said. "I mean very over the top, out of
control, physically powerful, where he would repeatedly say to Monica,
'I'm not hurting you, am I?' And essentially he was, but she didn't say
he was."

White House steward Bayani Nelvis is said to have feared the
president
was physically abusing Lewinsky as well, telling a co-worker that she
appeared "shaky and in shock" after one sex session. (See:
Monica's 'Juanita Broaddrick' Moment?)

In an interview last year, Tripp told King that she believed Clinton
was
involved with other women at the White House and that the behavior was
ongoing. King declined to follow up.

The CNN host did not revisit the topic during his conversation with
Tripp Friday.

In early January 1993, the ATF rented a house near the Davidians?
poorly-built sprawling ramshackle wooden home to use as an undercover
surveillance post. Eight ATF agents were stationed in the building as an
undercover surveillance post. The Davidians immediately became suspicious
when their new neighbors - who were in their 30s, carried briefcases, and
drove late-model cars - claimed to be college students.
The ATF could easily have arrested Koresh and, after he was in custody,
carried out a peaceful search of the Davidians? home. Koresh routinely
went into nearby Waco on shopping trips and regularly jogged outside of
the building. On February 19, nine days before the eventual raid, two
undercover ATF agents (recognized as such by Koresh and other Davidians)
knocked on the door of the Davidian residence and invited Koresh to go
shooting. Koresh, two other Davidians, and the two agents proceeded to
have a pleasant time shooting with two AR-15s (so-called assault rifles),
an ATF agent?s .38 Super pistol, and two Sig-Sauer semiautomatic pistols.
Koresh provided much of the ammo for the plinking. The undercover agents?
official report noted: ?Mr. Koresh stated that he believed that every
person had the right to own firearms and protect their homes.?
Yet, the ATF still insisted that Koresh could not be arrested without a
small army - and lots of accompanying television cameras. A congressional
investigation subsequently concluded: ?The ATF deliberately choose not to
arrest Koresh outside the Davidian residence and instead determined to use
a dynamic entry approach. The bias toward the use of force may in large
part be explained by a culture within ATF? Management initiatives,
promotional criteria, training, and a broad range of other cultural
factors point to ATF?s propensity to engage in aggressive law
enforcement.? The more force the ATF used in attacking the Davidians, the
easier it would be to subsequently vilify them in the national press and
in federal court.

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:

John Ortega wrote:

Hatto von Aquitanien <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in
news:j9adnb65GfA4twXanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@speakeasy.net:

Waco mass murder remains unprosecuted

Sorry, but the guy who changed his name to "David Koresh" and claimed
to be "The Lamb of God who was slain for the sins of the World,"
killed himself and ordered all of his followers to burn themselves to
death to cover up their sexscapades and pedophilia and illegal
weapons trade. At least that's the story some of the survivors of the
doosday cultists have given in several public interviews I have seen
on the television.

"In mid March, 1993, I attended a senior-level executive staff meeting
at CIA headquarters; and it involved senior Agency management along
with liaison officers from the US military; in particular from Delta
Group. The briefing centered on Delta's operation in Waco Texas.

Originally I was told there was just gonna be one or two Delta
personnel
there as observers, but during the briefing it was mentioned that
there was over ten Delta operators at Waco Texas; and they were not
there merely as observers, but would be participating in any type of
operational or tactical effort against the Branch Davidians.

Approximately a year after the Waco incident, I was deployed overseas
in
Europe, and had a chance to meet some of the Delta operators that had
been on previous assignments. That had told me, on several different
occasions, during my meetings with them in Europe, that not only were
they forwardly deployed at Waco Texas, but they were actually involved
in a gunfight(sic) with the Branch Davidians." ~ Gene Cullen, Senior
Case Officer, Special Operations Group, CIA

"I did talk to some Combat Applications Group [Delta Force] guys, and
they did confirm that, yes, portions of B Squadron were there pulling
triggers." ~ SFC Steven M. Barry, US Army Special Forces, Ret.

"There's no doubt in my mind that the flashes on FLIR tape was fire
from a
semiautomatic or automatic weapons fire being returned(sic) into the
building. I mean, it's inconsistent to think otherwise.

There were people on the ground with automatic weapons, and flashes
such as
that only comes from one thing. It comes from rifle barrels that are
firing back(sic) into the building." ~ Gene Cullen, Senior Case
Officer, Special Operations Group, CIA

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showConnection.php?id1=6713&id2=6676

Vince Foster

Linda Tripp - Hillary Ordered Waco Slaughter & Clinton Abused Monica


www.newsmax.com/archive/print.shtml?a=2001/2/10/1048152-11-1

Hillary Clinton pressured the late Vince Foster to resolve the 1993
Waco
standoff in a move that led to the deaths of more than 80 men, women and
children, former White House aide Linda Tripp charged in an interview
Friday night.

Tripp also alleged that Monica Lewinsky was more of a victim of Bill
Clinton's sexual predations than the former White House intern has
publicly acknowledged.

Appearing on CNN's "Larry King Live," Tripp suggested that Foster, at
Mrs. Clinton's direction, transmitted the order to move on the Branch
Davidian's Waco compound, which culminated in a military-style tear gas
attack on the wooden structure.

The compound burst into flames hours later as federal troops used a
U.S.
Army tank to ram the building and insert flammable gas.

Tripp described Foster's demeanor as "dignified, decent, caring,
smart"
during his early days at the White House. But when Waco happened, she
said, "that's when I first knew that Vince was falling apart."

Foster was found shot to death in a Virginia park three months later.

Tripp said she was with the former deputy White House counsel when
the
news of the Waco assault broke on television.

"A special bulletin came on showing the atrocity at Waco and the
children. And his face, his whole body slumped, and his face turned
white, and he was absolutely crushed knowing - knowing the part he had
played."

"And he had played the part at Mrs. Clinton's direction," charged
Tripp.

Tripp was stunned by the contrast between Foster's heartfelt emotion
at
the Waco tragedy and what she observed from Mrs. Clinton.

"Her reaction, on the other hand, was heartless," Tripp told King,
adding, "I can only tell you what I saw."

When asked how the decision to move on Waco was transmitted, Tripp
said, "Foster, Mrs. Clinton, [deputy Attorney General] Webb Hubbell,
[Attorney General] Janet Reno."

Tripp's new charge corroborates allegations first leveled in the 1999
documentary on the deadly confrontation, "Waco: A New Revelation."

In the film, director Michael McNulty included the account of former
House Waco investigator T. March Bell.

"One of the interesting things that happens in an investigation is
that
you get anonymous phone calls," Bell explains in the film.

"And we in fact received anonymous phone calls from Justice
Department
managers and attorneys who believe that pressure was placed on Janet Reno
by Webb Hubbell, pressure that came from the first lady of the United
States."

At the film's premiere, Bell told NewsMax.com that phone logs
obtained
by House investigators indicated that Mrs. Clinton, Foster and Hubbell
worked on Waco together.

"Those phone logs were Webb Hubbell's phone logs. There were calls
from
the first lady and Vince Foster to Webb Hubbell's office" during the Waco
crisis, he said.

Bell said Mrs. Clinton grew more and more impatient as the Waco
standoff
came to dominate the headlines during the early months of the Clinton
administration. It was she, Bell's source claims, who pressured a
reluctant Janet Reno to act.

Reno, on the other hand, was not enthusiastic about launching the
assault, said Bell. "Give me a reason not to do this," she is said to
have begged aides.

In another explosive revelation, Tripp charged that the president's
relationship with Monica Lewinsky included an element of abuse.

"This was abuse of a child," she told King. "Don't ever believe that
this was consensual sex. And [Clinton] went to extraordinary lengths to
cover that up. Criminal lengths."

The former White House insider said that the then-21-year-old
Lewinsky
was "a mixed-up, unstable, volatile child" who became emotionally
overwhelmed by her involvement with Clinton.

"Monica is 21 going on 14 on a good day," Tripp said.

In 1998, Tripp told investigators that Lewinsky's private
descriptions
of her encounters with Clinton included the infliction of pain.

"I don't mean abusive," Tripp said. "I mean very over the top, out of
control, physically powerful, where he would repeatedly say to Monica,
'I'm not hurting you, am I?' And essentially he was, but she didn't say
he was."

White House steward Bayani Nelvis is said to have feared the
president
was physically abusing Lewinsky as well, telling a co-worker that she
appeared "shaky and in shock" after one sex session. (See:
Monica's 'Juanita Broaddrick' Moment?)

In an interview last year, Tripp told King that she believed Clinton
was
involved with other women at the White House and that the behavior was
ongoing. King declined to follow up.

The CNN host did not revisit the topic during his conversation with
Tripp Friday.

In early January 1993, the ATF rented a house near the Davidians?
poorly-built sprawling ramshackle wooden home to use as an undercover
surveillance post. Eight ATF agents were stationed in the building as an
undercover surveillance post. The Davidians immediately became suspicious
when their new neighbors - who were in their 30s, carried briefcases, and
drove late-model cars - claimed to be college students.
The ATF could easily have arrested Koresh and, after he was in custody,
carried out a peaceful search of the Davidians? home. Koresh routinely
went into nearby Waco on shopping trips and regularly jogged outside of
the building. On February 19, nine days before the eventual raid, two
undercover ATF agents (recognized as such by Koresh and other Davidians)
knocked on the door of the Davidian residence and invited Koresh to go
shooting. Koresh, two other Davidians, and the two agents proceeded to
have a pleasant time shooting with two AR-15s (so-called assault rifles),
an ATF agent?s .38 Super pistol, and two Sig-Sauer semiautomatic pistols.
Koresh provided much of the ammo for the plinking. The undercover agents?
official report noted: ?Mr. Koresh stated that he believed that every
person had the right to own firearms and protect their homes.?
Yet, the ATF still insisted that Koresh could not be arrested without a
small army - and lots of accompanying television cameras. A congressional
investigation subsequently concluded: ?The ATF deliberately choose not to
arrest Koresh outside the Davidian residence and instead determined to use
a dynamic entry approach. The bias toward the use of force may in large
part be explained by a culture within ATF? Management initiatives,
promotional criteria, training, and a broad range of other cultural
factors point to ATF?s propensity to engage in aggressive law
enforcement.? The more force the ATF used in attacking the Davidians, the
easier it would be to subsequently vilify them in the national press and
in federal court.