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http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635178724,00.html
Ford to cut 30,000 jobs
Rollback called 'painful last resort' may hit Utah
By Micheline Maynard
New York Times News Service
and Greg Kratz
Deseret Morning News
DEARBORN, Mich. - The Ford Motor Co. said Monday it will close
as many as 14 factories and cut up to 30,000 jobs over the next six
years.
It was the latest move in a fundamental restructuring of
Detroit's traditional auto companies, hit hard by foreign competitors
who have taken more than 40 percent of the American market.
The moves by Ford, the second-largest automaker in the United
States, come two months after industry leader General Motors said it
would close all or part of a dozen factories and eliminate a similar
number of jobs.
Including cuts that took place at the Chrysler Corp., the Big
Three automakers have eliminated or announced plans to eliminate nearly
140,000 jobs since 2000. That is about one-third of their North
American payroll, a rollback to a work-force size not seen since the
end of World War II.
The effects of Ford's cuts may be felt as far away as Utah,
although at least one local car dealer said Monday that he was feeling
positive about Ford's planned changes.
Larry Cutler, general sales manager for LaPoint Ford at 5500 S.
State in Murray, said it is not good that people are going to lose
their jobs, but he is glad Ford is going to "get into the game and
fight it out."
"We're excited about it, because it's about time Ford retooled
itself," Cutler said. "We need to be competitive with the imports."
He said he does not expect sales to dip at the LaPoint dealership
as a result of the company's cutbacks, and he looks forward to the buzz
that will accompany Ford's plans to roll out new hybrids and body
styles.
"Ford is definitely ready to put the gloves on," Cutler said.
"It's good for us as dealers, because it adds a shot in the arm."
One of Ford's suppliers, air-bag manufacturer Autoliv ASP Inc. in
Ogden, also is not too concerned about the cuts, according to
spokeswoman Kathy Whitehead.
"Any time our business partners experience dramatic shifts in
their operations, there's certainly a possibility that we could see
some impact," Whitehead said. "Although in this case, we expect that it
will be minimal."
She said Autoliv, which employs about 4,200 people at several
northern Utah locations, has worked hard to develop a mix of customers.
"Certainly Ford is an important customer for us," Whitehead said.
"We have been working to build a customer mix in North America that not
only encompasses the Big Three automakers, but also the European and
Asian transplant markets."
Ford's chief executive, William Clay Ford Jr., called the cuts "a
painful last resort." But he said the company's plan contained "the
vision and strategic focus to rebuild the business. With it," Ford
said, "we will retake the American roadway."
The United Automobile Workers union, which represents workers in
the United States, said the announcement by Ford was "deeply
disappointing and devastating" for its members.
Ford's share price closed up 42 cents, at $8.32, on the New York
Stock Exchange. The cuts at Ford are taking place under a turnaround
plan it is calling the Way Forward, marking its second attempt to
restructure the company in the past four years.
Ford's goal is to become as nimble as Toyota and Honda, cutting
through layers of bureaucracy that have stymied the development of
innovative vehicles like hybrid electric cars. The plan also highlights
Ford's American roots and aims to create clearer identities for its
Ford, Lincoln and Mercury brands.
Rising gas and steel prices and strong competition from abroad
have intensified the challenge to Ford and GM, already burdened by
rising health-care costs, rich pension packages and other retirement
benefits. More important, both companies have failed to find the right
formulas to satisfy the American car buyer. The result has been a swift
slide in market share. Ford, which held about 25 percent of the car
market in 2000, held only 17.4 percent in 2005. Much of the drop is due
to the decline in popularity of big sport utilities.
Monday's cuts at Ford affect about a third of its hourly payroll
in North America, where it has 87,000 workers. The company also is
cutting another 4,000 salaried employees, or about 10 percent of its
white-collar force, and has pledged to reduce its executive ranks by 12
percent.
With a smaller market share, Ford has its plants in North America
operating at only three-quarters capacity, sparking the company's
decision Monday to close assembly plants in Wixom, Mich.; Hapeville,
Ga.; and Hazelwood, Mo.
Two more assembly plants will close, Ford said, although it did
not name them. The auto company also is shutting a transmission plant
in Batavia, Ohio, near Cincinnati, and analysts said they expected
other Ford parts plants also would shut as the company decides which
assembly plants will close. Ford also is cutting one shift of workers
at its plant in St. Thomas, Ontario, two hours west of Toronto.
The company held out hope for some workers, saying it planned to
create a new factory somewhere in North America to build small cars at
a low cost. Ford executives declined to say when the plant would be
built - or whether it planned to employ unionized workers in the
United States or Canada.
Foreign manufacturers, which now sell more than four of every 10
cars and trucks in the United States, have created tens of thousands of
jobs at new factories from Ontario to Ohio, across the American south
and in Mexico.
Because of their growth, there has been no net loss in American
automotive jobs over the last 10 years, according to James P. Womack,
an author and expert in manufacturing efficiency. Auto industry
employment has held steady at about 1.1 million workers, including
those at parts companies, he said.
In fact, those foreign companies, which collectively employed
about 60,000 workers at the North American plants last year, are
expanding their factories. Later this year, Toyota will open a new
truck plant in San Antonio, and it is building another factory in
Ontario.
Earlier this month, Nissan's chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, who
became a management model for leading his company's successful
turnaround during the last six years, said Nissan could expand its
2-year-old factory in Canton, Miss.
While foreign automakers have hired some former Detroit workers,
most of their workers have no automotive experience and were chosen
through rigorous screening processes that stress physical endurance and
a bent for working in teams.
The idea seemed an echo of GM's original intent with the Saturn
Corp., whose plant in Spring Hill, Tenn., was meant to prove that
American workers could build cars that could compete with Japanese
autos.
In fact, Saturn's vehicles lured buyers away from Toyota and
Honda in the early 1990s, when the cars were first on sale. But Saturn
cars subsequently declined in popularity after GM decided to focus more
attention on developing SUVs.
And although GM is trying to rejuvenate the Saturn lineup, it
announced last year that it would close an assembly line at Spring
Hill, placing the plant's long-term future in doubt.
Ford's announcement of the Way Forward plan on Monday ended weeks
of speculation that it would eliminate some product lines. But on
Monday, Ford declined to comment on specific vehicles. Shortly before
it outlined the program on Monday, Ford said it lost $1 billion before
taxes on its automotive operations in 2005, compared with a loss of
$850 million in 2004. It posted a full-year profit of $2 billion, down
from $3.5 billion in 2004, but its third consecutive annual profit. It
has managed to keep making money because of good results overseas and
the strength of its financial services division.
But in December, Standard & Poor's Ratings Services cut its
rating on Ford's debt two notches deeper into junk, the same as S&P did
at GM after it unveiled its restructuring plan.
S&P warned that Ford was particularly vulnerable to steps that GM
might take to improve its market share, like the steep employee
discounts it offered consumers last summer. But the ratings agency,
which warned that GM could be forced to restructure under Chapter 11
protection, said it was not concerned that Ford would have to do so.
One reason, analysts said, is that the Ford family, which
controls the company through a special class of stock, would do
everything to prevent such a move.
On Monday, Ford's cousins Edsel B. Ford II and Elena Ford looked
on as Ford invoked his great-grandfather, Henry Ford, in an effort to
encourage Ford employees to be more innovative.
Ford recalled that Henry Ford built his first car in a shed
behind his Detroit house, only to realize it was too big to get out the
door. Instead, Ford said, his great-grandfather knocked down a wall to
drive it out.
"We intend to remind people every day that if you want to build
something that's never been built before, you may have to knock down a
wall or two," Ford said.
But Wall Street, on the other hand, was looking to Ford for more
specifics than the company provided in an hour-long presentation. Ford
officials, in fact, said the automaker would no longer issue annual
earnings guidance to analysts - a sharp contrast from Ford's past
practice of stating its goals in advance.
Indeed, the company said Monday only that it expected to be
profitable on its automotive operations in 2008, meaning it would lose
money on them this year and next.
Mark Fields, recently named president of Ford's operations for
the Americas, who was the author of the Way Forward plan, also said
that Ford meant to stabilize its declining market share, and eventually
gain sales.
But he did not say when that would happen or what share of the
American market Ford eventually expected to hold.
Ford's refusal to give more details on its plant closing plans
and financial targets was a contrast to the clearly defined outline at
Nissan by Ghosn, the Renault executive who took charge of the company
in 1999.
Nissan either met or exceeded the goals in three programs
outlined by Ghosn, who vowed six years ago to resign if the company
could not achieve its targets.
On Monday, Fields said in an interview that he was approaching
his job "as if my job is on the line."
"Hopefully if we're successful," Fields added, "I'll share in the
rewards, and if not, I'll share in the ramifications
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| Title: Re: Wages and Benefits of 30,000 Ford Workers = Wages (and No Benefits, Including No Lunch Hour) of How Many Wal-Mart Workers - Maybe 200,000? |
24 Jan 2006 07:27:52 PM |
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In article <1138129167.042407.220530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"gerry" <gerrytwo@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635178724,00.html
Ford to cut 30,000 jobs
Rollback called 'painful last resort' may hit Utah
By Micheline Maynard
New York Times News Service
and Greg Kratz
I worked in a factory for ten years. Factory work sucks, and the best
thing you can do for any human being who works in a factory is make them
do something else.
The automobile was perfected about 1928. It's time man moved on.
Traffic, speeding tickets, parking tickets, insurance, plates, titles,
dui's, 42,000 dead every fucking year. 350,000 horribly maimed. Every
fucking year. Millions of miles of tar ribbons poured over all our
pastures. $billions in tax money every fucking year.
All to support 1928 technology.
Engineering is far more advanced than that. Let's move onto the next
thing, and let the world try to keep up with us.
--
NeoLibertarian
Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity.
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24 Jan 2006 08:20:17 PM |
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"Neolibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cognac756-526140.18582524012006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1138129167.042407.220530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"gerry" <gerrytwo@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635178724,00.html
Ford to cut 30,000 jobs
Rollback called 'painful last resort' may hit Utah
By Micheline Maynard
New York Times News Service
and Greg Kratz
I worked in a factory for ten years. Factory work sucks, and the best
thing you can do for any human being who works in a factory is make them
do something else.
The automobile was perfected about 1928. It's time man moved on.
Traffic, speeding tickets, parking tickets, insurance, plates, titles,
dui's, 42,000 dead every fucking year. 350,000 horribly maimed. Every
fucking year. Millions of miles of tar ribbons poured over all our
pastures. $billions in tax money every fucking year.
All to support 1928 technology.
Engineering is far more advanced than that. Let's move onto the next
thing, and let the world try to keep up with us.
Can't, too many republicans.
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| User: "Neolibertarian" |
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24 Jan 2006 11:43:24 PM |
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In article <BfBBf.512067$084.181985@attbi_s22>,
"c-bee1" <c-bee1@insightbb.com> wrote:
"Neolibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cognac756-526140.18582524012006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1138129167.042407.220530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"gerry" <gerrytwo@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635178724,00.html
Ford to cut 30,000 jobs
Rollback called 'painful last resort' may hit Utah
By Micheline Maynard
New York Times News Service
and Greg Kratz
I worked in a factory for ten years. Factory work sucks, and the best
thing you can do for any human being who works in a factory is make them
do something else.
The automobile was perfected about 1928. It's time man moved on.
Traffic, speeding tickets, parking tickets, insurance, plates, titles,
dui's, 42,000 dead every fucking year. 350,000 horribly maimed. Every
fucking year. Millions of miles of tar ribbons poured over all our
pastures. $billions in tax money every fucking year.
All to support 1928 technology.
Engineering is far more advanced than that. Let's move onto the next
thing, and let the world try to keep up with us.
Can't, too many republicans.
Politicos.
--
NeoLibertarian
Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity.
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25 Jan 2006 09:15:29 AM |
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Stork replied:
Can't, too many republicans
That's a lazy excuse. If you got a better idea, go ahead and build it.
There's nothing stopping you from making something better. If there
was something so much better than a car, which, has advanced quite a
bit since 1928, go ahead and make it. It shouldn't require a massive
governmental effort to bring about something that superior.
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| User: "fiend999" |
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25 Jan 2006 10:02:32 AM |
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In article
<cognac756-526140.18582524012006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
Neolibertarian <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <1138129167.042407.220530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"gerry" <gerrytwo@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635178724,00.html
Ford to cut 30,000 jobs
Rollback called 'painful last resort' may hit Utah
By Micheline Maynard
New York Times News Service
and Greg Kratz
I worked in a factory for ten years. Factory work sucks, and the best
thing you can do for any human being who works in a factory is make them
do something else.
The automobile was perfected about 1928. It's time man moved on.
Traffic, speeding tickets, parking tickets, insurance, plates, titles,
dui's, 42,000 dead every fucking year. 350,000 horribly maimed. Every
fucking year. Millions of miles of tar ribbons poured over all our
pastures. $billions in tax money every fucking year.
All to support 1928 technology.
Engineering is far more advanced than that. Let's move onto the next
thing, and let the world try to keep up with us.
Sounds great. It will happen as soon as the oil and auto industries no
longer control the republicans in federal government.
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25 Jan 2006 09:31:46 AM |
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Stork replied to:
I worked in a factory for ten years. Factory work sucks, and the best thing you can do for any human being who works in a factory is make >them do something else.
I worked in a factory for four. I was proud to do it, and to make
stuff. Besides, factories provide a leg up for those who are handy
with their hands and don't have formal education. A nation has to have
all of its people on board. We can't just be consumers and designers.
We have to make our own stuff as well.
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| User: "Mamamia" |
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25 Jan 2006 05:41:49 AM |
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In article <1138129167.042407.220530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"gerry" <gerrytwo@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635178724,00.html
Ford to cut 30,000 jobs
Rollback called 'painful last resort' may hit Utah
By Micheline Maynard
New York Times News Service
and Greg Kratz
Deseret Morning News
DEARBORN, Mich. - The Ford Motor Co. said Monday it will close
as many as 14 factories and cut up to 30,000 jobs over the next six
years.
It was the latest move in a fundamental restructuring of
Detroit's traditional auto companies, hit hard by foreign competitors
who have taken more than 40 percent of the American market.
In 10 years, I'll be surprised if there are any US carmakers surviving.
I believe I read that China is supposed to introduce its car in the US
by 2008. There is simply no way that US carmakers can compete reasonably
with cheap foreign labor at the current pay scales and benefits. People
working for them should face up to the facts now while they have the
time to change to another occupation.
We should face the music now: Americans are going to end up subsisting
on minimum incomes by purchasing low-cost foreign-made goods. Move to
China if you want to live in a up-and-coming economy. Ours has had it
and it's gone. We did it to ourselves when we sold out our government to
the corporations.
--
"It is easier to fight for your principles
than to live by them."
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25 Jan 2006 09:14:01 AM |
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Stork replied to:
We should face the music now
don't buy anything foreign while there's still time.
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| User: "gerry" |
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25 Jan 2006 10:31:22 AM |
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Stork replied to:
We should face the music now
don't buy anything foreign while there's still time.
Easier said than done, and time has run out. 25 years ago, a wholesale
hardware store owner told me that he was having a hard time keeping at
least one American product in products like milling machines. Even
then, there were no US manufacturers of basic hardware suppllies like
nails. He said that for advanced stuff like high end milling machines,
the best gear came from Australia and Belgium, as I recall, with no US
product to match. The same situation held true for other products he
sold, where the US companies had bailed out or went out of business in
the hardware manufactiring line. As far as not buying anything
foreign, that time has passed at least 20 years ago. Then, in 1986,
the booming stock market was going to drive the American economy (until
it crashed 10/19/87). Now, for the time being, it is the IT companies
and the booming real estate market, with the DOW still over 10,0000.
Meanwhile, in China, areas near seaports that were scrubland 10 years
ago are now piled high with filled cargo containers ready for export to
the US. The computer you are using to read this message may have been
assembled elsewhere, but most of its components were made in China.
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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24 Jan 2006 02:17:24 PM |
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That's how Republicons get unemployment down.
Bret Cahill
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| User: "stork" |
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24 Jan 2006 05:41:31 PM |
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Stork replied to:
That's how Republicons get unemployment down.
What kind of car do you drive?
In fact, I would bet most Democrats drive Japanese or German cars and
shop at Walmart, and thus, are slitting this nation's throat.
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| User: "fiend999" |
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25 Jan 2006 10:00:04 AM |
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In article <1138146091.305960.81750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
stork <tbandrow@mightyware.com> wrote:
Stork replied to:
That's how Republicons get unemployment down.
What kind of car do you drive?
I drive one that works reliably and didn't cost more than comparable
products. How about you?
In fact, I would bet most Democrats drive Japanese or German cars and
shop at Walmart, and thus, are slitting this nation's throat.
I would be willing to bet you have not purchased a mass produced item
that is 100% made in the US in many years, except for maybe some
groceries or something like that.
What do you propose - that we all buy expensive and inferior products
just to be patriotic? I thought you right wingers were all about free
market economies.
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25 Jan 2006 06:57:40 AM |
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Republicons touted SUVs and opposed the fleet efficiency standards that
would keep U. S. auto makers competitive.
Bret Cahill
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25 Jan 2006 07:18:46 AM |
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On 25 Jan 2006 04:57:40 -0800, "Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com>
wrote:
Republicons touted SUVs and opposed the fleet efficiency standards that
would keep U. S. auto makers competitive.
Bret Cahill
SUV's sort of like the one John Kerry drives?
or a different kind?
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24 Jan 2006 01:56:43 PM |
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That's the GOP tax cut economy:
Get 'em all scrapping for dead end low paying jobs at Walmart.
Bret Cahill
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24 Jan 2006 02:12:03 PM |
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That's the GOP tax cut economy:
What kind of car do you drive?
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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25 Jan 2006 07:02:35 AM |
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<>That's the GOP tax cut economy:
< What kind of car do you drive?
A 1994 Specialized Crossroads hybrid.
But this dodges the issue:
The GOP tax cut economy reduces everyone to misery while the high tax
Clinton economic boom is quite popular.
Bret Cahill
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25 Jan 2006 02:38:02 AM |
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<tbandrow@storkyak.com> wrote in message
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That's the GOP tax cut economy:
What kind of car do you drive?
As if that has ANYTHING to do with it. You are probably one of those people
who think trucks drive in one door full of iron ore and a car comes out the
other end. Do you have ANY idea how many different companies make parts for
the auto industry, and in how many different countries? I used to live in a
small town in Wisconsin that had a plastics molding plant, they made ONE
part for the windshield wiper system of a Ford, and it was the biggest
employer in the village. My last two cars were made in America, they were
Toyota Camrys.
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25 Jan 2006 09:12:46 AM |
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Stork replied to:
As if that has ANYTHING to do with it.
Boy that's a clever dose of non-reality.
Do you have ANY idea how many different companies make parts for the auto industry, and in how many different countries
Read as, "It's all too complicated, so its not my fault,
. My last two cars were made in America, they were Toyota Camrys.
TOYOTA IS NON-UNION, WAY TO SUPPORT THE UAW, YOU STUPID DEMOCRAT.
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25 Jan 2006 11:53:48 AM |
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wrote:
Stork replied to:
As if that has ANYTHING to do with it.
Boy that's a clever dose of non-reality.
Do you have ANY idea how many different companies make parts for the auto industry, and in how many different countries
Read as, "It's all too complicated, so its not my fault,
. My last two cars were made in America, they were Toyota Camrys.
TOYOTA IS NON-UNION, WAY TO SUPPORT THE UAW, YOU STUPID DEMOCRAT.
They don't need one, Toyota pays comparable wages.
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Cost of Iraq invasion today is $106,694,000,000 and growing.
President Bush creating more than 300,000 new jobs every month!
Deficit up $53,400,000,000 over same time last year.
looks like only about 20,000 marchers, tops
| Press Reports on U.S. Casualties: About 17,000 Short, UPI Says
Kurds demand ouster of 200,000 Arabs! tvnl
Georgie Bush thinks over 1,000 American dead in Iraq is all a big joke
John Hopkins study: Bush's war has killed 100,000 Iraqis
Another 367,000 American join jobless lines. Jobless claims continue to rise.
Arkansas Republican Party to pay record FEC $360,000 fine
Ford planning 35,000 U.S. job cuts
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