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User: "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE"
Date: 16 Apr 2005 12:12:01 PM
Object: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union
Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.
The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.
The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.
(snip)
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User: "Another Jerry Springer Democrat On Crack Crack"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 06:16:00 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union
=========================

Great . Those Canucks did not want to work there anyway selling all that
cheap China ***** and causing job losses by Canadian manufacturers.
;-0
.

User: "Jtm"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 12:56:08 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!
.
User: "Mitchell Holman"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 05:56:48 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!

Ever work for minumum wage? Did
you feel overpaid at the time?
.

User: "Shut The Fuck Up"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 09:01:43 PM
In article <Tkc8e.1309$K24.725@read1.cgocable.net>,
"Jtm" <jmeyers63@cogeco.ca> wrote:

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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!

Unions gave you your weekend idiot.
.
User: "Harvey"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 19 Apr 2005 06:10:53 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a
few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in
the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow
liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based
on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the
company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying
founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!


Unions gave you your weekend idiot.

Some of the weekday idiots, too.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 02:07:23 PM
Shut The ***** Up wrote:

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"Jtm" <jmeyers63@cogeco.ca> wrote:

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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a

few

other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in

the

shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow

liquidation

tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are

based on

low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store

openings,

announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted

to

make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the

company.

Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying

founder

Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!


Unions gave you your weekend idiot.

Now that we have weekends, Union exploitation has outlived its
usefulness and they should consider buggering off.
--S
.
User: "George Grapman"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 02:15:29 PM
wrote:

Shut The ***** Up wrote:


Now that we have weekends, Union exploitation has outlived its
usefulness and they should consider buggering off.

--S

And absent unions ever company will always do the right thing.
--
To reply via e-mail please delete 1 c from paccbell
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User: ""

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 02:24:06 PM
George Grapman wrote:

sneechres@yahoo.com wrote:

Shut The ***** Up wrote:


Now that we have weekends, Union exploitation has outlived its
usefulness and they should consider buggering off.

--S


And absent unions ever company will always do the right thing.

If you don't like what your company does, quit and work somewhere else.
Whereas, you think the unions do the right thing by exploiting other
people's employers for them, and not for free either. As if no one had
a voice until Jimmy Hoffa came along and gave them one.
--S
--S
.
User: "Jorge W. Arbusto"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 06:23:45 PM
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George Grapman wrote:

sneechres@yahoo.com wrote:

Shut The ***** Up wrote:


Now that we have weekends, Union exploitation has outlived its
usefulness and they should consider buggering off.

--S


And absent unions ever company will always do the right thing.


If you don't like what your company does, quit and work somewhere else.

When all corporations behave the same way, finding another employer is
merely a Hobson's choice.

Whereas, you think the unions do the right thing by exploiting other
people's employers for them, and not for free either. As if no one had
a voice until Jimmy Hoffa came along and gave them one.

It's no big secret that companies hired their own thugs to play hardball
with Hoffa's Teamsters. If you're implying the Teamsters were corrupt, the
companies were no less corrupt.
.





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Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 19 Apr 2005 06:29:56 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a

few

other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in

the

shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow

liquidation

tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based

on

low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the

company.

Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying

founder

Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!

That's Right! Thank god someone is willing to stand up to workers who
organize themselves! We can't have any freedom of association around
here, especially if it interferes with profits. Unions, as every
Republican knows, are conspiracies in restraint of free trade.
I mean, you look at the history of organized labor and the first thing
you realize, right off the bat, is that we're never going to be able to
reduce the wages of working people to the levels of Honduras with labor
unions around.
BTW, moron, who do you think was arranging to buy all that stuff from
$1/day Chinese laborers, and what do you think that did to YOUR job?
And your Mainstreet. And your childrens' future. Not that you'd care,
bein' a dittohead an' all.
.
User: "Brian Henderson"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 20 Apr 2005 11:48:06 PM
On 19 Apr 2005 16:29:56 -0700,
wrote:

That's Right! Thank god someone is willing to stand up to workers who
organize themselves! We can't have any freedom of association around
here, especially if it interferes with profits. Unions, as every
Republican knows, are conspiracies in restraint of free trade.

There's a difference between workers organizing themselves and a
professional, often criminal organized union coming along, lying to
the workers and getting them to sign on.
.


User: "SgtMinor"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 03:26:34 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!


Brilliant! Lay the blame for America's inability to compete at the feet
of the American worker! In my experience it was stupid managers,
focusing on short-term goals, who ran the ship aground.
If you'd take the time to read a little American history, you'd have
seen that Unions fought against the excesses of the Businesses Class,
and provided workers with wages they and their families could live on.
They also brought us safety standards and decent working hours. You
should be thankful for how Unions have raised standards that made us the
envy of the world.
But if you yearn for a job like the ones available in the late 1800s,
you know, 6-7 day weeks, 14-hour days, with nickel-and-dime wages, no
vacation, no pensions, no insurance, just hang in there. The Corporate
goons and their right-wing know-nothing lackeys will have such jobs for
you and your kids real soon. Right here in America.
If they get their way, that is.
.
User: "Jtm"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 03:48:19 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!



Brilliant! Lay the blame for America's inability to compete at the feet of
the American worker! In my experience it was stupid managers, focusing on
short-term goals, who ran the ship aground.

If you'd take the time to read a little American history, you'd have seen that
Unions fought against the excesses of the Businesses Class, and provided
workers with wages they and their families could live on. They also brought us
safety standards and decent working hours. You should be thankful for how
Unions have raised standards that made us the envy of the world.

But if you yearn for a job like the ones available in the late 1800s, you
know, 6-7 day weeks, 14-hour days, with nickel-and-dime wages, no vacation, no
pensions, no insurance, just hang in there. The Corporate goons and their
right-wing know-nothing lackeys will have such jobs for you and your kids real
soon. Right here in America.

If they get their way, that is.

Who's fault is that? Do you go to the store and buy the cheapest piece of
garbage there is that says made in China or Brazil or Mexico on it? The
American people are the ones that are selling the US out! I can see that
you would like to work 4 days a week and get 14 paid holidays 3 weeks
vacation and 21 personal days paid for and wonder why we can not
compete it the world market! One of two things have to happen if we are
to remain competitive either we will have to buy things that are made in
America or we will have to pay the same wages as the Chinese pay!
Do you agree? It is not our government that is at fault it is our own
population!
.
User: "Time For Change"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 08:28:24 PM
Actually Americans take some of the fewest number of vacation days per year
compared to other developed nations.
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!



Brilliant! Lay the blame for America's inability to compete at the feet
of the American worker! In my experience it was stupid managers,
focusing on short-term goals, who ran the ship aground.

If you'd take the time to read a little American history, you'd have seen
that Unions fought against the excesses of the Businesses Class, and
provided workers with wages they and their families could live on. They
also brought us safety standards and decent working hours. You should be
thankful for how Unions have raised standards that made us the envy of
the world.

But if you yearn for a job like the ones available in the late 1800s, you
know, 6-7 day weeks, 14-hour days, with nickel-and-dime wages, no
vacation, no pensions, no insurance, just hang in there. The Corporate
goons and their right-wing know-nothing lackeys will have such jobs for
you and your kids real soon. Right here in America.

If they get their way, that is.


Who's fault is that? Do you go to the store and buy the cheapest piece of
garbage there is that says made in China or Brazil or Mexico on it? The
American people are the ones that are selling the US out! I can see that
you would like to work 4 days a week and get 14 paid holidays 3 weeks
vacation and 21 personal days paid for and wonder why we can not
compete it the world market! One of two things have to happen if we are
to remain competitive either we will have to buy things that are made in
America or we will have to pay the same wages as the Chinese pay!
Do you agree? It is not our government that is at fault it is our own
population!


.

User: "SgtMinor"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 06:03:23 PM
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Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!



Brilliant! Lay the blame for America's inability to compete at the feet of
the American worker! In my experience it was stupid managers, focusing on
short-term goals, who ran the ship aground.

If you'd take the time to read a little American history, you'd have seen that
Unions fought against the excesses of the Businesses Class, and provided
workers with wages they and their families could live on. They also brought us
safety standards and decent working hours. You should be thankful for how
Unions have raised standards that made us the envy of the world.

But if you yearn for a job like the ones available in the late 1800s, you
know, 6-7 day weeks, 14-hour days, with nickel-and-dime wages, no vacation, no
pensions, no insurance, just hang in there. The Corporate goons and their
right-wing know-nothing lackeys will have such jobs for you and your kids real
soon. Right here in America.

If they get their way, that is.


Who's fault is that? Do you go to the store and buy the cheapest piece of
garbage there is that says made in China or Brazil or Mexico on it? The
American people are the ones that are selling the US out! I can see that
you would like to work 4 days a week and get 14 paid holidays 3 weeks
vacation and 21 personal days paid for and wonder why we can not
compete it the world market! One of two things have to happen if we are
to remain competitive either we will have to buy things that are made in
America or we will have to pay the same wages as the Chinese pay!
Do you agree? It is not our government that is at fault it is our own
population!

I don't blame people when they buy the cheapest thing although,
personally, I would like them to look beyond price. But people who buy
cheap crap may not have the money the buy the higher priced, better
quality stuff. I see 'big barn' houses being built and all sorts of
shiny SUVs on the road, but I also know that a lot of people are barely
making ends meet. And the flaccid economy and the increased rate of
concentration of wealth makes me think that a lot more folks will soon
slide down the economic ladder.
Americans have seen their standards of living decline as the barriers
that existed all over the world have come tumbling down. You can get to
this country in less than a day from almost anywhere on earth; emailing
documents, files, programs, and other data is near instantaneous; and
ships bigger than some small towns bring Oriental-made Nikes and Saudi
crude to our shores in the millions of sneakers or barrels.
Now American companies are just like American shoppers: they look for
the lowest price. If some other worker will do the job cheaper, we'll
ship the job to that worker. I can't blame them for that.
But what I do blame managers for is their short-term orientation, where
First Quarter performance is more important than five-year progress.
Most managers like the military model of organization which does not
include the idea of talking to the enlisted men for ideas. Add to this
a wonderful accounting concept, that views workers as expenses rather
than assets, and it's not hard to see that there is little or no
collaboration between workers and managers. American workers are not
more stupid than those in other countries, they can do as high a quality
of work as workers in other countries. But it's our culture of
management that's choking us and not tapping in to the value of our
workforce. It states that to accept workers' ideas would be to
acknowledge management's failure. It tells managers to look for
accounting wizardry rather than product improvement. And when they do
claim an improvement it's cosmetic. American workers truly need Unions
to protect themselves from these people.
The longer this 'us versus them' game goes on, where the rich get
richer, and the rest of us get to pick up the tab (Leona Helmsley: "Only
the little people pay taxes.") things look bad for us.
So yes, I blame managers and government. "Rugged individualism" will
lose out to the team every time. Our ruling classes have lacked in
ideas, spirit, generosity and creativity. Their lust for riches and
power has blinded them. The American people are being sold short.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 01:15:20 AM
SgtMinor wrote:

Jtm wrote:

"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in

message

news:rmh261pkj4icldr2dg16s4mgt6c0mdscq8@4ax.com...



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a

few

other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in

the

shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow

liquidation

tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based

on

low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store

openings,

announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the

company.

Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying

founder

Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!



Brilliant! Lay the blame for America's inability to compete at the

feet

of the American worker! In my experience it was stupid managers,
focusing on short-term goals, who ran the ship aground.

If you'd take the time to read a little American history, you'd have
seen that Unions fought against the excesses of the Businesses Class,
and provided workers with wages they and their families could live

on.

They also brought us safety standards and decent working hours. You
should be thankful for how Unions have raised standards that made us

the

envy of the world.

Here is our thanks, pink slips 369,000 for our union brethren enjoy
unemployment you earned it.

But if you yearn for a job like the ones available in the late 1800s,
you know, 6-7 day weeks, 14-hour days, with nickel-and-dime wages, no
vacation, no pensions, no insurance, just hang in there. The

Corporate

goons and their right-wing know-nothing lackeys will have such jobs

for

you and your kids real soon. Right here in America.

As the privite sector continues to eliminate union workers their last
bastion seems to be the public sector that being the city ,county and
state employees unions.
Is it not ironic that we the taxpayers must subsidize the unions.
Talk about the taxpayers subsidy of Wall-Mart, it is a joke compared
to
the billions spent nationaly on public unions.

If they get their way, that is.

.


User: "Brian Henderson"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 11:30:25 PM
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:56:08 -0400, "Jtm" <jmeyers63@cogeco.ca> wrote:

It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!

Uh... Quebec is in Canada last I checked.
.
User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 22 Apr 2005 01:21:56 PM
Brian Henderson wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:56:08 -0400, "Jtm" <jmeyers63@cogeco.ca> wrote:


It is Wal-Marts right to close any store they want thank god!
It is about time the Unions get what's coming to them for
destroying Americas ability to compete with the rest of the world!



Uh... Quebec is in Canada last I checked.

Canada is in (North) America last time you checked as well.
.



User: "Harvey"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 12:49:29 PM
"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rmh261pkj4icldr2dg16s4mgt6c0mdscq8@4ax.com...



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.

*DUH*
Can't slip anything by them, by golly.
.

User: "Starshine Moonbeam"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 08:31:17 PM
In article <rmh261pkj4icldr2dg16s4mgt6c0mdscq8@4ax.com>, laura bush -
VEHICULAR HOMICIDE (xeton2001@yahoo.com) dropped a +5 bundle of words...



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.


(snip)


I'm just so shocked, especially since Sam seemed all for worker's rights
and everything.
--
Starshine Moonbeam
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
.

User: "Time For Change"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 01:59:51 PM
Most likely that Wal-mart displaced other stores providing some of those
same services when they moved in, so it stands to reason that that void will
need to be filled again.
Sounds like new jobs to me.
And perhaps less junk from China filling up the landfills.
"Our behavior matters more than the beliefs that we profess".
Deutsch Earle - Biology Professor, Cornell University
"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rmh261pkj4icldr2dg16s4mgt6c0mdscq8@4ax.com...



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

Updated: 12:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2005JONQUIERE, Quebec - The baby
buggies are all gone. In electronics, only "Le Gros Albert" and a few
other leftover DVDs remain. A few pairs of pink boots are left in the
shoe department. Over in household goods, red and yellow liquidation
tags dangle beside thin skillets as Wal-Mart prepares to close.


The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on
low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings,
announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to
make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

The closure will leave 190 bitter employees out of work, the town
uneasy over the future of unions, and the mayor angry at the company.
Supporters of organized labor also say it serves as a warning for
workers at other Wal-Mart stores who might contemplate defying founder
Sam Walton's sharp distaste for unions.


(snip)

.
User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 02:10:12 PM
Time For Change wrote:

Most likely that Wal-mart displaced other stores providing some of

those

same services when they moved in, so it stands to reason that that

void will

need to be filled again.

No. Not a positive of Wal-Mart leaving.
A positive of Wal-Mart having been in the Quebec town. What is one of
the benefits? There must be some. PagCal talked about a "net" effect.
My guess is that he won't be able to (as you were not) specify one.
Ryd
.
User: "Jorge W. Arbusto"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 06:19:55 PM
"Ryd" <ryda56p@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1113765012.963730.31510@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...


Time For Change wrote:

Most likely that Wal-mart displaced other stores providing some of

those

same services when they moved in, so it stands to reason that that

void will

need to be filled again.




No. Not a positive of Wal-Mart leaving.

A positive of Wal-Mart having been in the Quebec town. What is one of
the benefits? There must be some. PagCal talked about a "net" effect.

My guess is that he won't be able to (as you were not) specify one.

Ryd

Wal-Mart's leaving the town is the positive, in that they come in and run
all local competitors out of business.
.
User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 06:30:13 PM
You dumb *****!
I keep asking for one of you nitwits to state what WAS a good thing
about Wal-Mart operating at the subject town in Quebec for 3 years
before the union issue changed things?
Can't you mutherfuckers READ?
Why can't you even state one motherfucking thing that was good about
it?
Huh?
LOL, LOL.
Ryd
.
User: "George Grapman"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 17 Apr 2005 06:37:03 PM
Ryd wrote:

You dumb *****!

I keep asking for one of you nitwits to state what WAS a good thing
about Wal-Mart operating at the subject town in Quebec for 3 years
before the union issue changed things?

Can't you mutherfuckers READ?

Why can't you even state one motherfucking thing that was good about
it?

Huh?

LOL, LOL.

Ryd

Any truth to the rumor you once one made three posts in a a row
without cursing?
--
To reply via e-mail please delete 1 c from paccbell
.





User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 10:24:15 PM
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:12:01 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote or quoted :

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

What would happen if store after store went the same way. It costs
Wal-Mart more to shut down that to unionise, at least for one shore.
Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon.
Complicit Bush-friendly media keeps mum.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/mckinney_grills_rumsfeld.htm
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes
.
User: "Ryd"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 10:57:58 PM
Roedy Green wrote:

It costs
Wal-Mart more to shut down that to unionise, at least for one shore.

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User: "jimpgh2002"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 01:37:36 PM
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:12:01 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

This is old "news". Nevertheless, good on ya, Wal-Mart.
.
User: "parsifal"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 03:42:20 PM
"jimpgh2002" <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ppm261p04pl9384tk7f5ccfdepor58bkb8@4ax.com...

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:12:01 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

This is old "news". Nevertheless, good on ya, Wal-Mart.

Moron
.
User: "jimpgh2002"

Title: Re: Wal-Mart closes store after workers vote for union 16 Apr 2005 11:38:36 PM
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:42:20 GMT, "parsifal" <parsifal@wagner.de>
wrote:


"jimpgh2002" <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ppm261p04pl9384tk7f5ccfdepor58bkb8@4ax.com...

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:12:01 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7495079/

Wal-Mart leaves bitter chill in Quebec
Retailer shutting store after workers vote for union

This is old "news". Nevertheless, good on ya, Wal-Mart.


Moron

Nice post. Very succint. Very meaningful. Almost brilliant.
Keep up the good work.
.




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