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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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01 Aug 2007 01:52:45 PM |
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Wal-Mart in Mexico - 19,000 UNPAID TEEN EMPLOYEES |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart’s Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn’t breaking any laws—but that doesn’t mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico’s largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico—and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn’t try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be “volunteering”
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country’s labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. “These kids should receive a salary,” says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. “If you ask me, I don’t think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity.”
(snip)
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01 Aug 2007 02:16:17 PM |
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On Aug 1, 11:52 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico's largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico-and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn't try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be "volunteering"
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country's labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
Also rooted in the NAFTA treaty... which despite promises by the
pushers of NAFTA that situations like this (corvee labor) would not be
allowed... have appeared in spades.
Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
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| User: "GonzoTrader" |
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01 Aug 2007 02:22:20 PM |
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Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
That "neo-con" would be Bill Clinton who pushed for NAFTA.
http://www.multied.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html
The boundless ignorance of liberals never ceases to amaze and
entertain.
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| User: "Eat Crack" |
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01 Aug 2007 02:36:23 PM |
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"GonzoTrader" <GonzoTrader@101click.com> wrote in message
news:1185996140.609371.206390@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
That "neo-con" would be Bill Clinton who pushed for NAFTA.
http://www.multied.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html
The boundless ignorance of liberals never ceases to amaze and
entertain.
The lies of the rightards is amazing. Oldbush pushed for Nafta and Congress
passed it.
Clinton was stuck with it.
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| User: "Concerned Citizen" |
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01 Aug 2007 03:08:38 PM |
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On Aug 1, 3:36 pm, "Eat Crack" <Crackhe...@Crawford.net> wrote:
"GonzoTrader" <GonzoTra...@101click.com> wrote in message
news:1185996140.609371.206390@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
That "neo-con" would be Bill Clinton who pushed for NAFTA.
http://www.multied.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html
The boundless ignorance of liberals never ceases to amaze and
entertain.
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The lies of the rightards is amazing. Oldbush pushed for Nafta and Congress
passed it.
Clinton was stuck with it.
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Stuck with it?! He LOBBIED for additional house votes for it to
pass! Do you dumb-asses make ***** up as you go along?
Here's Bill Clinto himself explaining how he pushed for the additional
votes and celebrating the bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnmj_G62aqQ
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01 Aug 2007 07:13:19 PM |
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Concerned Citizen wrote:
On Aug 1, 3:36 pm, "Eat Crack" <Crackhe...@Crawford.net> wrote:
"GonzoTrader" <GonzoTra...@101click.com> wrote in message
news:1185996140.609371.206390@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
That "neo-con" would be Bill Clinton who pushed for NAFTA.
http://www.multied.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html
The boundless ignorance of liberals never ceases to amaze and
entertain.
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The lies of the rightards is amazing. Oldbush pushed for Nafta and Congress
passed it.
Clinton was stuck with it.
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Stuck with it?! He LOBBIED for additional house votes for it to
pass! Do you dumb-asses make ***** up as you go along?
Here's Bill Clinto himself explaining how he pushed for the additional
votes and celebrating the bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnmj_G62aqQ
Bill Clinton stabbed the working man in the back when he signed NAFTA
into law, but don't ever forget, it was Bush that signed the treaty with
Mexico and Canada before he left office. He just didn't have the
opportunity to sign it into law.
--
Tom Tancredo for President in 2008
For a Secure America
http://www.teamtancredo.org/
http://tancredo.house.gov/
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| User: "Truth-monger" |
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02 Aug 2007 09:55:12 PM |
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On Aug 1, 3:36 pm, "Eat Crack" <Crackhe...@Crawford.net> wrote:
"GonzoTrader" <GonzoTra...@101click.com> wrote in message
news:1185996140.609371.206390@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
That "neo-con" would be Bill Clinton who pushed for NAFTA.
http://www.multied.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html
The boundless ignorance of liberals never ceases to amaze and
entertain.
The lies of the rightards is amazing. Oldbush pushed for Nafta and Congress
passed it.
Clinton was stuck with it.
It was an election issue when Bush ran against both Perot and
Clinton. You are clueless!
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| User: "Truth-monger" |
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01 Aug 2007 02:33:25 PM |
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On Aug 1, 3:22 pm, GonzoTrader <GonzoTra...@101click.com> wrote:
Unfortunately the neocon stooges pushing NAFTA.. lied again.
Neocons are trans-national parasites.
That "neo-con" would be Bill Clinton who pushed for NAFTA.http://www.multied.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html
The boundless ignorance of liberals never ceases to amaze and
entertain.
He is correct, it was Clinton. Look it up you dopey liberal whiners!
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| User: "Grendel" |
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01 Aug 2007 03:39:39 PM |
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On Aug 1, 1:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico's largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico-and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn't try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be "volunteering"
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country's labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
It's funny that only Wal-Mart is mentioned. There are many similar
situations in many different stores. It is a fact of life in Mexico.
Kids work for tips. If you'll remember, they are not working as
cashiers, who usually do the baggin in Wal-Mart(remember, Wal-Mart
does not have 'baggers'). They are taking over that job from the
cashiers (who still earn the same wage for just scanning products) and
the kids take the groceries to the car in hopes of a tip.
That is the only reason they volunteer, and Wal-Mart is not the only
store they volunteer at. You should be happy that Wal-Mart lets these
kids volunteer and earn money.
If you don't like it, lobby Wal-Mart to forbid the practice in its
stores in Mexico. The only result is the 19,000 youngsters will have
to go elsewhere to earn tips. Congratulations, you've just cost them
their livelyhood.
In Mexico, I've had young kids do the following for tips: Bag
groceries, carry groceries, 'guard' my car(although it didn't need
it), 'find' a restaurant for me (although I already knew where it was)
etc. And when they can find nothing to earn a tip for, they beg.
It's a fact of life in Mexico.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Life as we know it" doesn't exist.-Solomon Short.
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01 Aug 2007 07:16:21 PM |
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Grendel wrote:
On Aug 1, 1:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico's largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico-and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn't try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be "volunteering"
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country's labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
It's funny that only Wal-Mart is mentioned. There are many similar
situations in many different stores. It is a fact of life in Mexico.
Kids work for tips. If you'll remember, they are not working as
cashiers, who usually do the baggin in Wal-Mart(remember, Wal-Mart
does not have 'baggers'). They are taking over that job from the
cashiers (who still earn the same wage for just scanning products) and
the kids take the groceries to the car in hopes of a tip.
That is the only reason they volunteer, and Wal-Mart is not the only
store they volunteer at. You should be happy that Wal-Mart lets these
kids volunteer and earn money.
If you don't like it, lobby Wal-Mart to forbid the practice in its
stores in Mexico. The only result is the 19,000 youngsters will have
to go elsewhere to earn tips. Congratulations, you've just cost them
their livelyhood.
And thanks to people like you, they will continue to be beggars, with no
hope of improving their lives.
In Mexico, I've had young kids do the following for tips: Bag
groceries, carry groceries, 'guard' my car(although it didn't need
it), 'find' a restaurant for me (although I already knew where it was)
etc. And when they can find nothing to earn a tip for, they beg.
It's a fact of life in Mexico.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Life as we know it" doesn't exist.-Solomon Short.
--
Tom Tancredo for President in 2008
For a Secure America
http://www.teamtancredo.org/
http://tancredo.house.gov/
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02 Aug 2007 11:31:20 AM |
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On Aug 1, 7:16 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
Grendelwrote:
On Aug 1, 1:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico's largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico-and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn't try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be "volunteering"
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country's labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
It's funny that only Wal-Mart is mentioned. There are many similar
situations in many different stores. It is a fact of life in Mexico.
Kids work for tips. If you'll remember, they are not working as
cashiers, who usually do the baggin in Wal-Mart(remember, Wal-Mart
does not have 'baggers'). They are taking over that job from the
cashiers (who still earn the same wage for just scanning products) and
the kids take the groceries to the car in hopes of a tip.
That is the only reason they volunteer, and Wal-Mart is not the only
store they volunteer at. You should be happy that Wal-Mart lets these
kids volunteer and earn money.
If you don't like it, lobby Wal-Mart to forbid the practice in its
stores in Mexico. The only result is the 19,000 youngsters will have
to go elsewhere to earn tips. Congratulations, you've just cost them
their livelyhood.
And thanks to people like you, they will continue to be beggars, with no
hope of improving their lives.
And why is it my problem that the entire culture of a country that I
don't live isn't up to the standards of the country I do live in?
I'm just stating the fact that Wal-Mart was not doing anything but
following the culture of the country it is in. Would you rather they
be barred from doing what they do anyway? It's Mexico! It a society
of beggers and children are taught at a young age to do odd jobs for
money. Beg, 'protect' cars, carry bags...it's what they do. They act
as baggers and bag carriers for any store that is operating. They are
not employees of Wal-Marts...and forbiding the practice would not
force Wal-Mart to hire them, they arlready have cashier that they pay
to do that. It would only cost the volunteers a place to volunteer.
Face it, you just hate Wal-Mart because you try and destroy anything
that is successful.
Wal-Mart is not exploiting these youngsters, if anything, these
youngsters are exploiting Wal-Mart.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Have all the opinions you want. They're free. Just don't confuse
them with reality."-Solomon Short.
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02 Aug 2007 09:59:32 PM |
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On Aug 2, 12:31 pm, wrote:
On Aug 1, 7:16 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
Grendelwrote:
On Aug 1, 1:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico's largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico-and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn't try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be "volunteering"
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country's labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
It's funny that only Wal-Mart is mentioned. There are many similar
situations in many different stores. It is a fact of life in Mexico.
Kids work for tips. If you'll remember, they are not working as
cashiers, who usually do the baggin in Wal-Mart(remember, Wal-Mart
does not have 'baggers'). They are taking over that job from the
cashiers (who still earn the same wage for just scanning products) and
the kids take the groceries to the car in hopes of a tip.
That is the only reason they volunteer, and Wal-Mart is not the only
store they volunteer at. You should be happy that Wal-Mart lets these
kids volunteer and earn money.
If you don't like it, lobby Wal-Mart to forbid the practice in its
stores in Mexico. The only result is the 19,000 youngsters will have
to go elsewhere to earn tips. Congratulations, you've just cost them
their livelyhood.
And thanks to people like you, they will continue to be beggars, with no
hope of improving their lives.
And why is it my problem that the entire culture of a country that I
don't live isn't up to the standards of the country I do live in?
I'm just stating the fact that Wal-Mart was not doing anything but
following the culture of the country it is in. Would you rather they
be barred from doing what they do anyway? It's Mexico! It a society
of beggers and children are taught at a young age to do odd jobs for
money. Beg, 'protect' cars, carry bags...it's what they do. They act
as baggers and bag carriers for any store that is operating. They are
not employees of Wal-Marts...and forbiding the practice would not
force Wal-Mart to hire them, they arlready have cashier that they pay
to do that. It would only cost the volunteers a place to volunteer.
Face it, you just hate Wal-Mart because you try and destroy anything
that is successful.
Wal-Mart is not exploiting these youngsters, if anything, these
youngsters are exploiting Wal-Mart.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Have all the opinions you want. They're free. Just don't confuse
them with reality."-Solomon Short.
Agreed. The weak-minded street people in Mexico want want want, and
refuse to learn civilized skills to gain gain gain.
It's very simple to be civilized and self-reliant, and why fight it?
Cave-dwelling isn't something that anyone pushes, but intelligence is
what is being pushed.
You decide.
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03 Aug 2007 08:35:07 AM |
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On Aug 2, 9:59 pm, Truth-monger <truthmong...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 2, 12:31 pm, wrote:
On Aug 1, 7:16 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
Grendelwrote:
On Aug 1, 1:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico's largest private-sector employer in the nation
today, with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional
19,000 youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in
hundreds of Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout
Mexico-and none of them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn't try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers:
OUR VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE
THEM. SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried
youths is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be "volunteering"
their services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the
requirements and regulations that would otherwise apply under the
country's labor laws. But some officials south of the U.S. border
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
It's funny that only Wal-Mart is mentioned. There are many similar
situations in many different stores. It is a fact of life in Mexico.
Kids work for tips. If you'll remember, they are not working as
cashiers, who usually do the baggin in Wal-Mart(remember, Wal-Mart
does not have 'baggers'). They are taking over that job from the
cashiers (who still earn the same wage for just scanning products) and
the kids take the groceries to the car in hopes of a tip.
That is the only reason they volunteer, and Wal-Mart is not the only
store they volunteer at. You should be happy that Wal-Mart lets these
kids volunteer and earn money.
If you don't like it, lobby Wal-Mart to forbid the practice in its
stores in Mexico. The only result is the 19,000 youngsters will have
to go elsewhere to earn tips. Congratulations, you've just cost them
their livelyhood.
And thanks to people like you, they will continue to be beggars, with no
hope of improving their lives.
And why is it my problem that the entire culture of a country that I
don't live isn't up to the standards of the country I do live in?
I'm just stating the fact that Wal-Mart was not doing anything but
following the culture of the country it is in. Would you rather they
be barred from doing what they do anyway? It's Mexico! It a society
of beggers and children are taught at a young age to do odd jobs for
money. Beg, 'protect' cars, carry bags...it's what they do. They act
as baggers and bag carriers for any store that is operating. They are
not employees of Wal-Marts...and forbiding the practice would not
force Wal-Mart to hire them, they arlready have cashier that they pay
to do that. It would only cost the volunteers a place to volunteer.
Face it, you just hate Wal-Mart because you try and destroy anything
that is successful.
Wal-Mart is not exploiting these youngsters, if anything, these
youngsters are exploiting Wal-Mart.
YolBolsun,
Grendel.
"Have all the opinions you want. They're free. Just don't confuse
them with reality."-Solomon Short.
Agreed. The weak-minded street people in Mexico want want want, and
refuse to learn civilized skills to gain gain gain.
I wouldn't call them 'weak-minded', just a product of their culture.
As a whole, they are very industrious. Bagging and carrying groceries
is not the same as begging, and for a young teen in Mexico, it can be
lucrative.
Nor are they 'street people'..Most of these children have homes, with
parents that expect them to bring home money. Even the majority of
what you see a street beggers, after a day of begging, goes home to a
fairly nice house.
It's just the culture.
It's very simple to be civilized and self-reliant, and why fight it?
Are you calling these youngsters uncivilized? I wasn't.
Cave-dwelling isn't something that anyone pushes, but intelligence is
what is being pushed.
You decide.
Wal-Mart is not exploiting these teens. Wal-Mart is, on the other
hand, allowing to continue a practice that is prevelent in Mexico.
Just like the local Wal-Marts in American allow high school
cheerleaders to hold car-washes in their parking lots to raise money.
Would you say that Wal-Mart is exploiting the cheerleaders? (or for
that matter, exploiting the Salvation Army by letting them ring the
bell during the holidays? Target refused to allow that, and got all
kinds of bad publicity.)
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Have all the opinions you want. They're free. Just don't confuse
them with reality."-Solomon Short.
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01 Aug 2007 02:53:28 PM |
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On Aug 1, 2:52 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart's Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn't breaking any laws-but that doesn't mean
the government is happy with the practice.
nonetheless view the practice as regrettable, if not downright
exploitative. "These kids should receive a salary," says Labor
Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. "If you ask me, I don't think
these kids should be working, but there are cultural and social
circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity."
(snip)
well what you expect? they were the ones that didn't turn enough
tricks and make quota for the month.. Walmart is they pimp daddy now..
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart in Mexico - 19,000 UNPAID TEEN EMPLOYEES |
01 Aug 2007 11:07:09 AM |
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Why would ANYONE work for ANYONE, if they feel that they cannot earn any
money?
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:13b1lk2d4msnlb1@corp.supernews.com...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/
Teens at Work
Thousands of adolescents work as unpaid baggers in Wal-Mart’s Mexican
stores. The retail giant isn’t breaking any laws—but that doesn’t mean the
government is happy with the practice.
Updated: 1:33 p.m. MT July 31, 2007
July 31, 2007 -
Wal-Mart is Mexico’s largest private-sector employer in the nation today,
with nearly 150,000 local residents on its payroll. An additional 19,000
youngsters between the ages of 14 and 16 work after school in hundreds of
Wal-Mart stores, mostly as grocery baggers, throughout Mexico—and none of
them receives a red cent in wages or fringe benefits.
The company doesn’t try to conceal this practice: its 62 Superama
supermarkets display blue signs with white letters that tell shoppers: OUR
VOLUNTEER PACKERS COLLECT NO SALARY, ONLY THE GRATUITY THAT YOU GIVE THEM.
SUPERAMA THANKS YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING. The use of unsalaried youths
is legal in Mexico because the kids are said to be “volunteering” their
services to Wal-Mart and are therefore not subject to the requirements and
regulations that would otherwise apply under the country’s labor laws. But
some officials south of the U.S. border nonetheless view the practice as
regrettable, if not downright exploitative. “These kids should receive a
salary,” says Labor Undersecretary Patricia Espinosa Torres. “If you ask
me, I don’t think these kids should be working, but there are cultural and
social circumstances [in Mexico] rooted in poverty and scarcity.”
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| User: "Bob Eld" |
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01 Aug 2007 03:05:40 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46b0d9f3$0$8078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Why would ANYONE work for ANYONE, if they feel that they cannot earn any
money?
Because in Mexico they are dirt poor and are hoping for a few crumbs thrown
at them as tips. In Mexico thousands of people dig in the garbage dumps to
find anything edible or useful. It's kind of the same thing. They'll do
anything to get a few cents or a bite to eat. Its pathetic that a rich
American company takes advantage of them and gets free labor.
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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01 Aug 2007 01:09:09 PM |
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"Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oI5si.54592$5j1.47441@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46b0d9f3$0$8078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Why would ANYONE work for ANYONE, if they feel that they cannot earn any
money?
Because in Mexico they are dirt poor and are hoping for a few crumbs
thrown
at them as tips. In Mexico thousands of people dig in the garbage dumps to
find anything edible or useful. It's kind of the same thing. They'll do
anything to get a few cents or a bite to eat. Its pathetic that a rich
American company takes advantage of them and gets free labor.
What has that got to do with the question I asked?
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| User: "Al Montestruc" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart in Mexico - 19,000 UNPAID TEEN EMPLOYEES |
10 Aug 2007 01:06:34 AM |
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On Aug 1, 3:05 pm, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46b0d9f3$0$8078$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Why would ANYONE work for ANYONE, if they feel that they cannot earn any
money?
Because in Mexico they are dirt poor and are hoping for a few crumbs thrown
at them as tips. In Mexico thousands of people dig in the garbage dumps to
find anything edible or useful. It's kind of the same thing. They'll do
anything to get a few cents or a bite to eat. Its pathetic that a rich
American company takes advantage of them and gets free labor.
And what is it you are attacking Wally World for?
All BS aside letting those kids work for what tips customers choose to
give them gives them more income than if wally world refused to allow
them to do this.
I do not see you giving those kids jack.
Oh and by the way, they are paying for insurance for the kids and if
they had something better to do as in make more money some other way,
you can be sure they would.
The whole thing about a "minimum wage" is a joke. All that means is a
way for union people to squeeze poor people out of a job.
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