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Cronkite: It's Time to Get Out of Iraq Now
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_3406175


Iraqis should have been told that "our hearts are with you"
and that the United States would do all it could to rebuild
their country, he said. "I think we could have been able to
retire with honor," he said. "In fact, I think we can retire
with honor anyway."

You cannot retire with honor from a war that was started by lies and greed.
Iraq is an indelible black mark on America.

In article <11snek2a71dad1c@corp.supernews.com>,
Tuttle's Almanac <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Cronkite: It's Time to Get Out of Iraq Now
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_3406175

Former CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, whose 1968 conclusion that
the Vietnam War was unwinnable keenly influenced public opinion then,
said Sunday he'd say the same thing today about Iraq.

"It's my belief that we should get out now," Cronkite said
in a meeting with reporters in Pasadena.

Now 89, the television journalist once known as
"the most trusted man in America" has been off the
"CBS Evening News" for nearly a quarter-century.
He's still a CBS News employee, although he does little for them.

Cronkite said one of his proudest moments came at the end of a
1968 documentary he made after a visit to Vietnam during the
Tet offensive. Urged by his boss to briefly set aside his
objectivity to give his view of the situation, Cronkite said
the war was unwinnable and that the U.S. should exit.

Then-President Lyndon Johnson reportedly told a White House aide
after that, "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America."

The best time to have made a similar statement about Iraq
came after Hurricane Katrina, he said. "We had an opportunity
to say to the world and Iraqis after the hurricane disaster that
Mother Nature has not treated us well and we find ourselves missing
the amount of money it takes to help these poor people out of their
homeless situation and rebuild some of our most important cities in
the United States," he said. "Therefore, we are going to have to
bring our troops home."

Iraqis should have been told that "our hearts are with you"
and that the United States would do all it could to rebuild
their country, he said. "I think we could have been able to
retire with honor," he said. "In fact, I think we can retire
with honor anyway."
____________________________________________________

Gawd, the Drudge Report featured this article.
It must be time to leave. It's Un-winnable folks.

Support The DrudgeReport

MURTHA: VAST MAJORITY OF U.S. TROOPS WILL BE OUT OF IRAQ BY END OF YEAR
Fri Jan 13 2006 17:14:15 ET

Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) believes the vast majority of U.S. troops in
Iraq
will be out by the end of the year and maybe even sooner. In his boldest
words yet on the subject, the outspoken critic of the war predicts the
withdrawal and tells Mike Wallace why he thinks the Bush administration
will
do it. The interview, a portion of which will appear on tonight's (13)
CBS
EVENING NEWS, will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday Jan. 15 (7:00-8:00
PM,
ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

"I think the vast majority will be out by the end of the year and I'm
hopeful it will be sooner than that," Murtha tells Wallace, in the 60
MINUTES interview.

"You're going to see a plan for withdrawal," says Murtha, which he
believes
Congress will pass because of mounting pressure from constituents tired
of
the war that could affect the upcoming midterm elections. The political
situation will force President Bush to accede to Congress, he says. "I
think
the political people who give [the president] advice will say to him,
'You
don=CDt want a democratic Congress. You want to keep a republican majorit=

and the only way you're going to keep it is by reducing substantially the
troops in Iraq,'" Murtha says.

The president has said publicly that any decision regarding Iraq would be
based on the situation there and not on Washington politics.

Murtha rejects the president's argument that the war on terror is being
fought in Iraq. "The insurgents are Iraqis - 93 percent of the insurgents
are Iraqis. A very small percentage are foreign fighters.... Once we're
out
of there, [Iraqis] will eliminate [foreign fighters]," says Murtha.
"[President Bush] is trying to fight this war with rhetoric. Iraq is not
where the center of terrorism is," he says. "We're inciting terrorism
there.... We're destabilizing the area by being over there because we're
the
targets," Murtha tells Wallace.

When Wallace challenges him by saying, "General Peter Pace, Chairman of
the
Joint Chiefs, says your comments are damaging recruiting and hurting the
troops," Murtha responds by saying it's the military's own fault.
"[Troops]
are rotated [into Iraq] four and five times. They have no clear mission,"
says Murtha. "One of the problems they have with recruitment is [that]
they
continually say how well things are going and the troops on the ground
know
better."

President Bush has said there are only two choices in Iraq: victory and
defeat. And he has implied that Murtha is a "defeatist." Murtha, of
course,
disputes that.

There have been 13 servicemen from his Congressional district killed in
Iraq. Could the families of those dead be offended? Wallace asks. "Well,
I
hope [those families] understand," says the Vietnam combat veteran.
"It's my
job, my responsibility to speak out when I disagree with the policy of
the
president of the United States," says Murtha. "All of us want this
president
to succeed... I feel a mission here, with my experience, that I have to
help
the president find a way out of this thing."

Developing...http://www.drudgereport.com/

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And visit.. alt.impeach.bush

In article <11snek2a71dad1c@corp.supernews.com>,
Tuttle's Almanac <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Cronkite: It's Time to Get Out of Iraq Now
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_3406175

Former CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, whose 1968 conclusion that
the Vietnam War was unwinnable keenly influenced public opinion then,
said Sunday he'd say the same thing today about Iraq.

"It's my belief that we should get out now," Cronkite said
in a meeting with reporters in Pasadena.

Now 89, the television journalist once known as
"the most trusted man in America" has been off the
"CBS Evening News" for nearly a quarter-century.
He's still a CBS News employee, although he does little for them.

Cronkite said one of his proudest moments came at the end of a
1968 documentary he made after a visit to Vietnam during the
Tet offensive. Urged by his boss to briefly set aside his
objectivity to give his view of the situation, Cronkite said
the war was unwinnable and that the U.S. should exit.

Then-President Lyndon Johnson reportedly told a White House aide
after that, "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America."

The best time to have made a similar statement about Iraq
came after Hurricane Katrina, he said. "We had an opportunity
to say to the world and Iraqis after the hurricane disaster that
Mother Nature has not treated us well and we find ourselves missing
the amount of money it takes to help these poor people out of their
homeless situation and rebuild some of our most important cities in
the United States," he said. "Therefore, we are going to have to
bring our troops home."

Iraqis should have been told that "our hearts are with you"
and that the United States would do all it could to rebuild
their country, he said. "I think we could have been able to
retire with honor," he said. "In fact, I think we can retire
with honor anyway."
____________________________________________________

can they swift-boat Cronkite?

Yeah, I always go by what senile former news anchormen say.

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Cronkite: It's Time to Get Out of Iraq Now
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_3406175

Former CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, whose 1968 conclusion that
the Vietnam War was unwinnable keenly influenced public opinion then,
said Sunday he'd say the same thing today about Iraq.

"It's my belief that we should get out now," Cronkite said
in a meeting with reporters in Pasadena.

Now 89, the television journalist once known as
"the most trusted man in America" has been off the
"CBS Evening News" for nearly a quarter-century.
He's still a CBS News employee, although he does little for them.

Cronkite said one of his proudest moments came at the end of a
1968 documentary he made after a visit to Vietnam during the
Tet offensive. Urged by his boss to briefly set aside his
objectivity to give his view of the situation, Cronkite said
the war was unwinnable and that the U.S. should exit.

Then-President Lyndon Johnson reportedly told a White House aide
after that, "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost Middle America."

The best time to have made a similar statement about Iraq
came after Hurricane Katrina, he said. "We had an opportunity
to say to the world and Iraqis after the hurricane disaster that
Mother Nature has not treated us well and we find ourselves missing
the amount of money it takes to help these poor people out of their
homeless situation and rebuild some of our most important cities in
the United States," he said. "Therefore, we are going to have to
bring our troops home."

Iraqis should have been told that "our hearts are with you"
and that the United States would do all it could to rebuild
their country, he said. "I think we could have been able to
retire with honor," he said. "In fact, I think we can retire
with honor anyway."

Why does Walter keep saying these Vietnam things about War,
even after the invention of Cable TV, MTV, Sprint, PCs, GPS,
and E-Mail, which are the primary reasons that we are
even in Iraq and Afgahistan.