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Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
Counting ALL the votes is what it's about.
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Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots
Dec. 23, 2004
By REBECCA COOK, Associated Press Writer
SEATTLE - Election officials from Seattle's King County convened Thursday to
begin counting more than 700 mistakenly discarded ballots that were expected
to widen Democrat Christine Gregoire's lead in Washington's incredibly tight
race for governor.
On Wednesday, Gregoire moved ahead of Republican Dino Rossi for the first
time in the roller-coaster race, seizing a mere 10-vote lead out of 2.9
million ballots cast statewide, after the results of the latest statewide
recount were reported.
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| User: "Dave Simpson" |
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23 Dec 2004 07:06:09 PM |
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"Counting ALL the votes is what it's about."
(Right, if you're a Democrat, all the felon, illegal alien, pet,
corpse, child, and multiple votes.)
Well, if you're honest, then you should immediately be planning legal
action against the King County official results, because they didn't
count ALL the votes. We await your lawsuit -- if you're honest and not
being a typical Dim parrot and sucker, that is.
....
Of the 735 previously uncounted ballots 566 were added to the total
today, Thursday, Dec. 23, 2004.
http://www.metrokc.gov/elections/2004recount/results2.htm
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23 Dec 2004 11:30:48 PM |
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Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots
Dec. 23, 2004
By REBECCA COOK, Associated Press Writer
SEATTLE - Election officials from Seattle's King County convened
Thursday to begin counting more than 700 mistakenly discarded ballots
that were expected to widen Democrat Christine Gregoire's lead in
Washington's incredibly tight race for governor. [ ... ]
The question I have not heard asked: "Who was responsible
for `mistakenly' discarding the ballots later accepted by Court Order?"
Why do we not hear of their names vilified within the mass media?
Was this expensive recount process caused by -Repug- finaglers?
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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24 Dec 2004 10:59:35 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:30:48 GMT, (-) wrote:
Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots
Dec. 23, 2004
By REBECCA COOK, Associated Press Writer
SEATTLE - Election officials from Seattle's King County convened
Thursday to begin counting more than 700 mistakenly discarded ballots
that were expected to widen Democrat Christine Gregoire's lead in
Washington's incredibly tight race for governor. [ ... ]
The question I have not heard asked: "Who was responsible
for `mistakenly' discarding the ballots later accepted by Court Order?"
Why do we not hear of their names vilified within the mass media?
Was this expensive recount process caused by -Repug- finaglers?
I'm no longer a resident of WA state but heard it was a computerized
system which compared the signature on the envelope with one on file.
Those which the computer couldn't determine a match were excluded.
Automation isn't perfect - I used to run high speed check
reading/sorting equipment for a large bank and the machines didn't
always read a machine generated MICR code correctly. Those rejected
items always had to be manually reconciled. Election processes are no
different (unless you're James Baker).
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| User: "Bob Tiernan" |
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23 Dec 2004 07:43:35 PM |
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Sogobia wrote:
Counting ALL the votes is what it's about.
That's not what the Dems wanted. If that were true, they
would have marked those provisional ballots for Rossi
after the voter contacted in each case (by Dem officials
after a court allowed them to get the names and phone numbers
and addresses) said he voted for Rossi. They did this for
those voters who acknowledged that they voted for Gregoire
when asked to clarify which oval they really meant to mark.
When a voter said "Rossi", the Dem caller said thanks and
hung up. Result -- no vote counted for guv.
Get back to us when the Dems really are interested in
counting all the votes.
Bob t
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| User: "Puddy" |
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23 Dec 2004 08:56:54 PM |
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"Bob Tiernan" <zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote in message
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Sogobia wrote:
Counting ALL the votes is what it's about.
That's not what the Dems wanted. If that were true, they
would have marked those provisional ballots for Rossi
after the voter contacted in each case (by Dem officials
after a court allowed them to get the names and phone numbers
and addresses) said he voted for Rossi. They did this for
those voters who acknowledged that they voted for Gregoire
when asked to clarify which oval they really meant to mark.
When a voter said "Rossi", the Dem caller said thanks and
hung up. Result -- no vote counted for guv.
Get back to us when the Dems really are interested in
counting all the votes.
Get back to us when you have more proof than your own assertions. I
live in Washington State and their has been no mention of this happening
anywhere.
Jeremy Olson
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| User: "Dave Simpson" |
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23 Dec 2004 08:36:20 PM |
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Bob T. wrote:
Get back to us when the Dems really are interested in counting all
the votes.
Their selectivity, and more importantly, persistence, have appeared to
pay off in Washington. The state house stays Blue.
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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23 Dec 2004 09:07:51 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:43:35 -0800, Bob Tiernan
<zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote:
Sogobia wrote:
Counting ALL the votes is what it's about.
That's not what the Dems wanted. If that were true, they
would have marked those provisional ballots for Rossi
after the voter contacted in each case (by Dem officials
after a court allowed them to get the names and phone numbers
and addresses) said he voted for Rossi. They did this for
those voters who acknowledged that they voted for Gregoire
when asked to clarify which oval they really meant to mark.
When a voter said "Rossi", the Dem caller said thanks and
hung up. Result -- no vote counted for guv.
Get back to us when the Dems really are interested in
counting all the votes.
Bob t
As a former Pierce County (Tacoma) juror who sat on an absentee
registration fraud case in the late 80s, I'd say your conclusion is
baseless. Both sides want the vote for their candidate maximized.
During the case cited above, the GOP cheated but got caught.
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| User: "Bob Tiernan" |
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24 Dec 2004 01:06:19 AM |
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Cisco Kid wrote:
Bob Tiernan wrote:
That's not what the Dems wanted. If that were true, they
would have marked those provisional ballots for Rossi
after the voter contacted in each case (by Dem officials
after a court allowed them to get the names and phone numbers
and addresses) said he voted for Rossi. They did this for
those voters who acknowledged that they voted for Gregoire
when asked to clarify which oval they really meant to mark.
When a voter said "Rossi", the Dem caller said thanks and
hung up. Result -- no vote counted for guv.
As a former Pierce County (Tacoma) juror who sat on an absentee
registration fraud case in the late 80s, I'd say your conclusion is
baseless. Both sides want the vote for their candidate maximized.
During the case cited above, the GOP cheated but got caught.
"Got caught" ? What the hell does that means when it was the
Dems counting Dem votes but ignoring Repub voters. Again,
these ballots were not clear regarding the Guv candidate
chosen (both ovals may have been filled, or some mark appeared
in each oval etc), and the purpose of the calls to the voters
who sent those ballots in was to find out which candidate they
had actually chosen. If the voter said "Gregoire", the ballot
was marked for Gregoire and she got another vote. If the
vote said "Rossi", the caller (Dem official) said "Thanks" and
hung up without mentioning anything else, and that voter's
choice for guv went uncounted. That's how Gregoire pulled
closer in the first recount.
Anyway, I'd take you guys seriously if you didn't think
that Ohio needed a recount (a 120,000 vote lead is
quite a bit more than a hundred or so -- and no, don't
tell me about the fantasyland story of imaginary votes).
Bob t
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| User: "Puddy" |
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03 Jan 2005 10:39:49 PM |
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"Bob Tiernan" <zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote in message
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Cisco Kid wrote:
Bob Tiernan wrote:
That's not what the Dems wanted. If that were true, they
would have marked those provisional ballots for Rossi
after the voter contacted in each case (by Dem officials
after a court allowed them to get the names and phone numbers
and addresses) said he voted for Rossi. They did this for
those voters who acknowledged that they voted for Gregoire
when asked to clarify which oval they really meant to mark.
When a voter said "Rossi", the Dem caller said thanks and
hung up. Result -- no vote counted for guv.
As a former Pierce County (Tacoma) juror who sat on an absentee
registration fraud case in the late 80s, I'd say your conclusion is
baseless. Both sides want the vote for their candidate maximized.
During the case cited above, the GOP cheated but got caught.
"Got caught" ? What the hell does that means when it was the
Dems counting Dem votes but ignoring Repub voters.
Which wasn't happening. The Republican and Democratic
representatives have to agree on voter intent I believe.
Again,
these ballots were not clear regarding the Guv candidate
chosen (both ovals may have been filled, or some mark appeared
in each oval etc), and the purpose of the calls to the voters
who sent those ballots in was to find out which candidate they
had actually chosen. If the voter said "Gregoire", the ballot
was marked for Gregoire and she got another vote. If the
vote said "Rossi", the caller (Dem official) said "Thanks" and
hung up without mentioning anything else, and that voter's
choice for guv went uncounted. That's how Gregoire pulled
closer in the first recount.
That is complete BS and you know it. If you'd like to cite evidence
go ahead. But that isn't how it happens. If it was the Republicans
would have done it immediately.
Anyway, I'd take you guys seriously if you didn't think
that Ohio needed a recount (a 120,000 vote lead is
quite a bit more than a hundred or so -- and no, don't
tell me about the fantasyland story of imaginary votes).
The loser is always the one that is going to ask for the recount.
Sometimes they reverse elections. Sometimes they dont'. Deal with
it.
Jeremy Olson
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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24 Dec 2004 10:55:14 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:06:19 -0800, Bob Tiernan
<zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote:
Cisco Kid wrote:
Bob Tiernan wrote:
That's not what the Dems wanted. If that were true, they
would have marked those provisional ballots for Rossi
after the voter contacted in each case (by Dem officials
after a court allowed them to get the names and phone numbers
and addresses) said he voted for Rossi. They did this for
those voters who acknowledged that they voted for Gregoire
when asked to clarify which oval they really meant to mark.
When a voter said "Rossi", the Dem caller said thanks and
hung up. Result -- no vote counted for guv.
As a former Pierce County (Tacoma) juror who sat on an absentee
registration fraud case in the late 80s, I'd say your conclusion is
baseless. Both sides want the vote for their candidate maximized.
During the case cited above, the GOP cheated but got caught.
"Got caught" ? What the hell does that means when it was the
Dems counting Dem votes but ignoring Repub voters.
I was referring to the Pierce County trial 15 years ago. The GOP
cheated by abusing absentee registration laws and got caught.
As a head election official for my precinct, when questionable votes
are counted, representatives of both major parties must agree on the
voter's intent. You don't have instances of one party counting only
their votes and ignoring opposition votes.
Again, these ballots were not clear regarding the Guv candidate
chosen (both ovals may have been filled, or some mark appeared
in each oval etc), and the purpose of the calls to the voters
who sent those ballots in was to find out which candidate they
had actually chosen. If the voter said "Gregoire", the ballot
was marked for Gregoire and she got another vote. If the
vote said "Rossi", the caller (Dem official) said "Thanks" and
hung up without mentioning anything else, and that voter's
choice for guv went uncounted. That's how Gregoire pulled
closer in the first recount.
No. The first mandated recount was another automated tabulation.
When she pulled to within 47 votes after the 1st recount the dems
raised funding for a full manual recount. It was after the full manual
recount where she finally pulled ahead.
Anyway, I'd take you guys seriously if you didn't think
that Ohio needed a recount (a 120,000 vote lead is
quite a bit more than a hundred or so -- and no, don't
tell me about the fantasyland story of imaginary votes).
Why were Ohio and Florida the only two states where the final results
differed substantially from the exit polling results? Isn't it
curious these two states also used the touch screen systems (with no
audit trail) manufactured by GOP supporters?
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| User: "Dave Simpson" |
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23 Dec 2004 09:12:21 PM |
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The GOP still cheats sometimes, but it's nothing compared to what the
Democrats have done.
Also, beginning with the attempt by the Dems to steal the White House
in 2000 after losing it, they have descended to an all-new low.
Democratic-run cities cannot be and are not trusted by Americans these
days.
The election results are tainted. Most will go on to see how
all-but-assured Governor Gregoire does in office. But it stinks.
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| User: "FredThe Fish" |
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24 Dec 2004 06:55:38 AM |
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Also, beginning with the attempt by the Dems to steal the White House
in 2000 after losing it, they have descended to an all-new low.
Good lord you are pathetic.
YOu guys really don;t understand the concept of democracy and voting. TO
you, it's a game to be won, and once you win, it's "too late", or as kids
say "no backsies".
Recounts are PART of the process, folks. It seems that the democrat would
habe won without these new votes, so let's not whine too loudly, ok?
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"Dave Simpson" <david_l_simpson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The GOP still cheats sometimes, but it's nothing compared to what the
Democrats have done.
Also, beginning with the attempt by the Dems to steal the White House
in 2000 after losing it, they have descended to an all-new low.
Democratic-run cities cannot be and are not trusted by Americans these
days.
The election results are tainted. Most will go on to see how
all-but-assured Governor Gregoire does in office. But it stinks.
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| User: "Bob Tiernan" |
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24 Dec 2004 02:32:10 PM |
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Fred The Fish wrote:
Recounts are PART of the process, folks.
Recounts are supposed to count only those ballots that
were part of the previous tally.
It seems that the democrat would habe won without
these new votes
There you "habe" it. Don't count 'em if it doesn't
matter! Winning is more important.
Bob T
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| User: "Puddy" |
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03 Jan 2005 10:44:26 PM |
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"Bob Tiernan" <zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote in message
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Fred The Fish wrote:
Recounts are PART of the process, folks.
Recounts are supposed to count only those ballots that
were part of the previous tally.
Not according to Washington State law. Washington State law allows
for the recanvassing of votes which were improperly rejected.
It seems that the democrat would habe won without
these new votes
There you "habe" it. Don't count 'em if it doesn't
matter! Winning is more important.
Good lord you're song and dance routine is getting ridiculous.
Amazing how Dino Rossi was claiming victory, and calling for Gregoire to
concede when he was winning. Now that he is losing, he wants "all the
votes counted".
Jeremy Olson
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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24 Dec 2004 10:44:13 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:55:38 GMT, "FredThe Fish" <xxx@nono.com> wrote:
Also, beginning with the attempt by the Dems to steal the White House
in 2000 after losing it, they have descended to an all-new low.
Good lord you are pathetic.
YOu guys really don;t understand the concept of democracy and voting. TO
you, it's a game to be won, and once you win, it's "too late", or as kids
say "no backsies".
Recounts are PART of the process, folks. It seems that the democrat would
habe won without these new votes, so let's not whine too loudly, ok?
Indeed. Gregoire won the manual recount by 10 votes. Only after the
additional King County votes were allowed to be tabulated did her
margin increase to 130.
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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24 Dec 2004 10:40:01 AM |
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On 23 Dec 2004 19:12:21 -0800, "Dave Simpson"
<david_l_simpson@yahoo.com> wrote:
The GOP still cheats sometimes, but it's nothing compared to what the
Democrats have done.
Also, beginning with the attempt by the Dems to steal the White House
in 2000 after losing it, they have descended to an all-new low.
Steal the White House? The only ones who stole the White House were
the 4 conservative Justices on the SCOTUS. Ask yourself why they
warned never to use their ruling as a future precendent.
Democratic-run cities cannot be and are not trusted by Americans these
days.
And that is why Seattle is consistently ranked as one of the best
places to live? The democrats must be doing something right...
The election results are tainted.
How so?
Most will go on to see how all-but-assured Governor Gregoire does in office. But it stinks.
Why? She got more votes than her opponent. It's as simple as that.
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| User: "Bob" |
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24 Dec 2004 12:07:21 PM |
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"Cisco Kid" <ckid@attnet.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Dec 2004 19:12:21 -0800, "Dave Simpson"
<david_l_simpson@yahoo.com> wrote:
The GOP still cheats sometimes, but it's nothing compared to what the
Democrats have done.
Also, beginning with the attempt by the Dems to steal the White House
in 2000 after losing it, they have descended to an all-new low.
Steal the White House? The only ones who stole the White House were
the 4 conservative Justices on the SCOTUS. Ask yourself why they
warned never to use their ruling as a future precendent.
Democratic-run cities cannot be and are not trusted by Americans these
days.
And that is why Seattle is consistently ranked as one of the best
places to live? The democrats must be doing something right...
Seattle is also in the top 20 unsafest
cities.
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| User: "abelincoln" |
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23 Dec 2004 03:21:28 PM |
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gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
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| User: "Bob" |
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23 Dec 2004 03:23:40 PM |
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"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
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gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
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| User: "Puddy" |
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23 Dec 2004 08:54:54 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
news:ovCdndm3P4tEq1bcRVn-sw@rcn.net...
gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
Of course the Washington Supreme court, and the Republican elections
comissioner all said that the votes were legally cast.
Jeremy Olson
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| User: "Sogobia" |
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23 Dec 2004 03:30:32 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
news:ovCdndm3P4tEq1bcRVn-sw@rcn.net...
gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Seems to be a conflict of intelligence here, Boob. How can Republicans want
all legal votes counted and not care about intimidating voters? Voters don't
like to be intimidated. And how do you know which voters to intimidate?
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
Typical rightwing propaganda.
--
Florida 2000 Statute
101.5614 (5) Canvass of returns.--
No vote shall be declared invalid or void if there is a clear indication of
the intent of the voter as determined by the canvassing board.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
23 Dec 2004 03:34:50 PM |
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"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1103837428.96a02eb8e94b551ce1d0048c70c57aa4@teranews...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:nEGyd.2713$5y3.2490@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
news:ovCdndm3P4tEq1bcRVn-sw@rcn.net...
gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Seems to be a conflict of intelligence here, Boob. How can Republicans want
all legal votes counted and not care about intimidating voters?
It's really simple. Republicans want only
legal votes to count.
Voters don't like to be intimidated.
Agreed.
And how do you know which voters to intimidate?
You don't pick and choose who you intimidate. You
simply verify legality.
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
Typical rightwing propaganda.
You really need to remove your blinders.
Would you agree with a law that only
allowed people to vote who could show
a picture ID, and be on the voter
registration roll in that precinct? If not,
why not? If so, you should be a Republican.
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| User: "Sogobia" |
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23 Dec 2004 03:53:38 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1103837428.96a02eb8e94b551ce1d0048c70c57aa4@teranews...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:nEGyd.2713$5y3.2490@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
news:ovCdndm3P4tEq1bcRVn-sw@rcn.net...
gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Seems to be a conflict of intelligence here, Boob. How can Republicans
want all legal votes counted and not care about intimidating voters?
It's really simple. Republicans want only
legal votes to count.
As do Democrats.
Voters don't like to be intimidated.
Agreed.
And how do you know which voters to intimidate?
You don't pick and choose who you intimidate. You
simply verify legality.
Verification isn't intimidation.
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
Typical rightwing propaganda.
You really need to remove your blinders.
No blinders, just stating the obvious.
Would you agree with a law that only
allowed people to vote who could show
a picture ID, and be on the voter
registration roll in that precinct? If not,
why not? If so, you should be a Republican.
I think that is only reasonable. On the other hand:
Meanwhile, Republicans plan to place an unprecedented number of vote
“challengers” in polling places and have filed more than 35,000 pre-election
challenges to voter eligibility in Ohio alone. Already thousands of the
challenges have been withdrawn or thrown out as frivolous, but civil rights
activists say such maneuvers as challenging people at polling places could
delay the voting process and discourage eligible voters from waiting in line
at the polls. Many question whether these efforts at mass disenfranchisement
violate the federal Voting Rights Act.
http://www.aflcio.org/issuespolitics/ns10262004.cfm
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
23 Dec 2004 09:03:02 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:34:50 -0600, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
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gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Seems to be a conflict of intelligence here, Boob. How can Republicans want
all legal votes counted and not care about intimidating voters?
It's really simple. Republicans want only
legal votes to count.
Not really. Simply look at the FL 2000 election. There were tens of
thousands of legally cast votes which were not counted and the
Republicans went to court to ensure they remained uncounted. But...
among the several hundred overseas absentee ballots which did not meet
state guidelines (but were felt to trend toward Bush) the GOP went to
court to beg to get them included in the totals.
Voters don't like to be intimidated.
Agreed.
And how do you know which voters to intimidate?
You don't pick and choose who you intimidate. You
simply verify legality.
That is exactly what King County in Washington did. They manually
compared signatures with those on file instead of relying on someone's
software code to do the job.
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
Typical rightwing propaganda.
You really need to remove your blinders.
Would you agree with a law that only
allowed people to vote who could show
a picture ID, and be on the voter
registration roll in that precinct? If not,
why not? If so, you should be a Republican.
The Republicans DIDN'T do that in FL in 2000.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
23 Dec 2004 09:28:51 PM |
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"Cisco Kid" <ckid@attnet.net> wrote in message
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Would you agree with a law that only
allowed people to vote who could show
a picture ID, and be on the voter
registration roll in that precinct? If not,
why not? If so, you should be a Republican.
The Republicans DIDN'T do that in FL in 2000.
Answer the question.
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| User: "Bob Tiernan" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
24 Dec 2004 01:00:16 AM |
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Cisco Kid wrote:
But....among the several hundred overseas absentee ballots
which did not meet state guidelines (but were felt to trend
toward Bush) the GOP went to court to beg to get them included
in the totals.
Which means the Dems were opposed to it -- so much for
"count all the votes". Again.
Bob T
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| User: "Cisco Kid" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
24 Dec 2004 10:34:37 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:00:16 -0800, Bob Tiernan
<zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote:
Cisco Kid wrote:
But....among the several hundred overseas absentee ballots
which did not meet state guidelines (but were felt to trend
toward Bush) the GOP went to court to beg to get them included
in the totals.
Which means the Dems were opposed to it -- so much for
"count all the votes". Again.
You can't count "all the votes" when some of these have voted more
than once, voted in precincts where they weren't registered or failed
to have their ballots properly witnessed. The FL GOP legislature
passed anti fraud legislation after 1997 yet "conveniently" looked the
other way when it was their own votes which were being scrutinized.
Look at Washington's gubernatorial race now... The State Supreme
Court ruled unanimously that ballots previously omitted (by error) did
have to get counted, much to the Republican's whinings and overturning
a lower court's ruling.
Now that the democratic candidate Gregiore surged into the lead, the
WA state GOP are the ones who are suddenly scouring the state looking
for "every vote" to get counted.
Washington, unlike Florida, is a state which got it right.
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| User: "FredThe Fish" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
23 Dec 2004 06:02:17 PM |
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Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
Yeah, that's it.
Turd.
--
George W. Bush: Fighting religious extremism abroad while embracing it at
home.
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message
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gee, counting all the votes is un-American, just ask a mother fucking
repugnant.
Republicans want all legal votes counted,
and care not if determining legality may
intimidate some voters.
Democrats want all votes counted, and
care not if they are legally cast.
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| User: "abelincoln" |
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| Title: Re: Wash. Officials Count Discarded Ballots |
23 Dec 2004 07:58:31 PM |
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boy are you fucking naive.
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