Politics > Politics-USA > Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad
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10 Oct 2007 10:26:54 PM |
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Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad |
October 10, 2007, 6:41 PM (GMT+02:00)
Has Korea helped Syria develop a radiological missile warhead?
The New York Times reveals that Turkish officials presented Damascus
on Oct. 6, with an "Israeli dossier" on a Syrian nuclear program
[which Israeli relayed to Washington before its Sept. 6 air strike].
However Assad "vigorously denied the intelligence and said that what
the Israelis had hit was a "storage depot for strategic missiles."
DEBKAfile's sources add: Turkish foreign minister Ali Babacan, who
presented the Israeli dossier to president Bashar Assad, also
delivered his reply to Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert in a one-on-
one conversation in Jerusalem Oct. 7. Washington is now demanding
Israel's response to Assad's claim. The purpose of relaying the
"Israeli dossier" to Ankara in the first place was to demonstrate that
Syrian nuclear activity aided by North Korea potentially menaced
neighboring Turkey as well as US regional interests and Israel.
According to the NYT, the debate in the Bush administration is over
whether the Israeli evidence points to a Syrian nuclear program that
does indeed pose a significant threat to the Middle East and should
therefore lead to critical changes in Bush administration policies for
the Middle East and North Korea.
Vice President ***** Cheney and other officials argue Israeli
intelligence is credible and should cause the United States to
reconsider diplomatic overtures to Syria and North Korea, whereas
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice does not believe the intelligence
presented so far merits any change in American diplomatic approach.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates was cautious about fully endorsing
Israel's warnings that Syria was on the way to a nuclear weapon.
Cheney's faction is uneasy about the decision to proceed with the
supply to North Korea of economic aid in return for disabling its
nuclear reactor. They argue that Israeli intelligence shows that North
Korea cannot be trusted.
It has long been known that North Korean scientists have aided
Damascus in developing sophisticated ballistic missile technology.
There is little debate that North Koreans frequently visited the site
in the Syrian desert that Israel jets attacked Sept. 6.
A CIA veteran Bruce Riedel told the NYT: "Israel would not have
launched the strike in Syria if it believed Damascus was merely
developing more sophisticated ballistic missiles or chemical weapons...
Those red lines were crossed 20 years ago."
Another former intelligence official said Syria is trying to develop
an airburst capability for its ballistic missiles which would allow
warheads to detonate in the air to disperse its contents more widely.
DEBKAfile's military sources report this type of warhead is capable of
damaging much broader areas than the conventional warhead. In
particular, any radioactive materials it contained would scatter and
contaminate wide, densely populated urban areas. Of late, US sources
have voiced strong suspicions that Syria and Iran have acquired "dirty
bombs."
The question is whether North Korea has been helping Syria build
missiles packed with radioactive materials and fitted with an airburst
capability to boot.
http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=4660
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| User: "Reargunner" |
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| Title: Re: Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad |
11 Oct 2007 11:12:07 AM |
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In article <1192073214.181246.95250@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
AirRaid1500@gmail.com says...
A CIA veteran Bruce Riedel told the NYT: "Israel would not have
launched the strike in Syria if it believed Damascus was merely
developing more sophisticated ballistic missiles or chemical weapons...
Those red lines were crossed 20 years ago."
I like the word merely here.
Another former intelligence official said Syria is trying to develop
an airburst capability for its ballistic missiles which would allow
warheads to detonate in the air to disperse its contents more widely.
DEBKAfile's military sources report this type of warhead is capable of
damaging much broader areas than the conventional warhead. In
particular, any radioactive materials it contained would scatter and
contaminate wide, densely populated urban areas. Of late, US sources
have voiced strong suspicions that Syria and Iran have acquired "dirty
bombs."
The question is whether North Korea has been helping Syria build
missiles packed with radioactive materials and fitted with an airburst
capability to boot.
I doubt that this sort of dirty weapon is worth the effort to make.
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| User: "jgarbuz" |
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| Title: Re: Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad |
11 Oct 2007 12:49:19 PM |
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On Oct 11, 12:12 pm, Reargunner <Idontwants...@SPAM.com> wrote:
In article <1192073214.181246.95...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
AirRaid1...@gmail.com says...
A CIA veteran Bruce Riedel told the NYT: "Israel would not have
launched the strike in Syria if it believed Damascus was merely
developing more sophisticated ballistic missiles or chemical weapons...
Those red lines were crossed 20 years ago."
I like the word merely here.
Another former intelligence official said Syria is trying to develop
an airburst capability for its ballistic missiles which would allow
warheads to detonate in the air to disperse its contents more widely.
DEBKAfile's military sources report this type of warhead is capable of
damaging much broader areas than the conventional warhead. In
particular, any radioactive materials it contained would scatter and
contaminate wide, densely populated urban areas. Of late, US sources
have voiced strong suspicions that Syria and Iran have acquired "dirty
bombs."
The question is whether North Korea has been helping Syria build
missiles packed with radioactive materials and fitted with an airburst
capability to boot.
I doubt that this sort of dirty weapon is worth the effort to make.<
Why not? If it can kill a lot of Jews, it certainly has to be "worth
it" to them!
A dirty bomb exploded over Haifa or Tel Aviv could kill a hundred
thousand Jews over time. It's cheap and dirty, so why wouldn't Syria
try to have it?
Nuclear materials in particular is definitely Israel's 'red line" that
Israel must not and will never allow any adversary cross if it can do
anything to stop it.
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| User: "Reargunner" |
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| Title: Re: Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad |
13 Oct 2007 07:18:22 AM |
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A dirty bomb exploded over Haifa or Tel Aviv could kill a hundred
thousand Jews over time. It's cheap and dirty, so why wouldn't Syria
try to have it?
Chernobyl would be a dirty nuclear bomb. It killed about 31.
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| User: "Vance P. Frickey" |
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| Title: Re: Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad |
19 Oct 2007 09:33:18 PM |
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"Reargunner" <Idontwantspam@SPAM.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.217b6284451b53d698a1ce@west.Usenet-News.net...
A dirty bomb exploded over Haifa or Tel Aviv could kill
a hundred
thousand Jews over time. It's cheap and dirty, so why
wouldn't Syria
try to have it?
Chernobyl would be a dirty nuclear bomb. It killed about
31.
Chernobyl was NOT a "dirty nuclear bomb." It was an
industrial accident. The effluent was limited to those
fission products light enough to be carried away in the
smoke from the molten-down reactor core. In any case, the
fission products emitted from the Chernobyl site were not
chosen for their radiotoxicity.
A true "dirty bomb" would only disseminate those
radionuclides which, like polonium-210, combine these
critical attributes of a potent radiotoxin:
1) affinity for critical organ systems in the human body (as
with strontium-90, which is a "bone-seeker," taking the
place of calcium in bone tissue and other critical organs;
2) ability to disperse freely in the ecosystem -
polonium-210 does this by emitting beta rays rapidly enough
to heat its surroundings and migrate relatively freely;
3) rapid enough radioactive decay to impart a significant
degree of destructive energy to the victim's body before the
radiotoxin is eliminated from the body by the metabolism.
Anyone interested in other useful components of a dirty bomb
need only consult the Chart of the Nuclides. Looking online
versions of that up is left as an exercise for the reader.
--
Vance P. Frickey
vfrickey@ricochet.com
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| User: "Theodore Herzl" |
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| Title: Re: Washington is asking Jerusalem to clarify the Israeli dossier on North Korean-aided Syrian nuclear and missile activity presented by Turkish foreign minister to Assad |
11 Oct 2007 02:50:32 PM |
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On Oct 10, 8:26 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid1...@gmail.com> wrote:
October 10, 2007, 6:41 PM (GMT+02:00)
Has Korea helped Syria develop a radiological missile warhead?
The New York Times reveals that Turkish officials presented Damascus
on Oct. 6, with an "Israeli dossier" on a Syrian nuclear program
[which Israeli relayed to Washington before its Sept. 6 air strike].
However Assad "vigorously denied the intelligence and said that what
the Israelis had hit was a "storage depot for strategic missiles."
DEBKAfile's sources add: Turkish foreign minister Ali Babacan, who
presented the Israeli dossier to president Bashar Assad, also
delivered his reply to Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert in a one-on-
one conversation in Jerusalem Oct. 7. Washington is now demanding
Israel's response to Assad's claim. The purpose of relaying the
"Israeli dossier" to Ankara in the first place was to demonstrate that
Syrian nuclear activity aided by North Korea potentially menaced
neighboring Turkey as well as US regional interests and Israel.
According to the NYT, the debate in the Bush administration is over
whether the Israeli evidence points to a Syrian nuclear program that
does indeed pose a significant threat to the Middle East and should
therefore lead to critical changes in Bush administration policies for
the Middle East and North Korea.
Vice President ***** Cheney and other officials argue Israeli
intelligence is credible and should cause the United States to
reconsider diplomatic overtures to Syria and North Korea, whereas
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice does not believe the intelligence
presented so far merits any change in American diplomatic approach.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates was cautious about fully endorsing
Israel's warnings that Syria was on the way to a nuclear weapon.
Cheney's faction is uneasy about the decision to proceed with the
supply to North Korea of economic aid in return for disabling its
nuclear reactor. They argue that Israeli intelligence shows that North
Korea cannot be trusted.
It has long been known that North Korean scientists have aided
Damascus in developing sophisticated ballistic missile technology.
There is little debate that North Koreans frequently visited the site
in the Syrian desert that Israel jets attacked Sept. 6.
A CIA veteran Bruce Riedel told the NYT: "Israel would not have
launched the strike in Syria if it believed Damascus was merely
developing more sophisticated ballistic missiles or chemical weapons...
Those red lines were crossed 20 years ago."
Another former intelligence official said Syria is trying to develop
an airburst capability for its ballistic missiles which would allow
warheads to detonate in the air to disperse its contents more widely.
DEBKAfile's military sources report this type of warhead is capable of
damaging much broader areas than the conventional warhead. In
particular, any radioactive materials it contained would scatter and
contaminate wide, densely populated urban areas. Of late, US sources
have voiced strong suspicions that Syria and Iran have acquired "dirty
bombs."
The question is whether North Korea has been helping Syria build
missiles packed with radioactive materials and fitted with an airburst
capability to boot.
What Washington wants is for Israeli Intelligence (an oxymoron all by
itself) to update its previous lie. And with other proven liars in
the Bush administration such as ***** Chaney saying that Israeli
intelligence is credible, it proves that it absolutely is not.
Israel attacked Syria to provoke a war to destroy the peace process,
but unlike the warmongering imperialists running Israel and the US,
Assad has no regional aspirations other than to help others defend
against Israeli and US aggression in the region.
The US, due to its support of Israel has lost nearly all of its
credibility in the region and the world and must distance ourselves
from the ZioNazi Reich immediately if we are to save any shed of
respect..
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