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"Harry Hope" |
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07 Jul 2007 03:37:51 PM |
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Watch MSNBC Hardball host play paddle ball with head of Libby defender |
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Hardball_David_Shusters_Libby_smackdown_extravaganza_0707.html
Saturday July 7, 2007
Hardball: David Shuster smacks down Scooter Libby defender
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
On MSNBC's Hardball on Friday, guest host David Shuster reported on a
fresh controversy surrounding the Scooter Libby pardon.
In a Wall Street Journal column on June 8, conservative Fouad Ajami
wrote "Scooter Libby was a soldier in your -- our -- war in Iraq. He
can't be left behind as a casualty of a war our country had once
proudly claimed as its own."
That remark has sparked widespread outrage.
Ajami appeared with Shuster to defend himself, saying testily, "I
don't really need to be lectured on the soldiers killed in Iraq. ... I
have a nephew serving with the US military as a lieutenant in Iraq.
.... You have to be able to handle a metaphor."
Ajami then began laying out a set of standard talking-points, begining
with the familiar argument that Libby was not really the person who
leaked Valerie Plame's identity.
"I know where you're going with this," interrupted Shuster.
"You said, 'Oh, we know that Richard Armitage wasn't the leaker,' as
if there was just one leaker. ... Richard Armitage would have only had
this information about Valerie Wilson only because Scooter Libby asked
the State Department for the information. ... Seven different people
talked with Scooter Libby about Valerie Wilson. ... Vice President
Cheney told Scooter Libby about Valerie Wilson."
When Ajami attempted to continue with the assertion that "there had
been no underlying crime," Shuster broke in again, pointing out that
"the whole issue was that because Scooter Libby lied and obstructed
the investigation, Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald was not able to make
a call."
"This should never have been criminalized to begin with," insisted
Ajami.
"This was part of the debate on the Iraq War."
"Why do you believe that Scooter Libby lied to the FBI, lied to the
grand jury if this was simply a matter of politics?" Shuster replied.
Shuster then invited Iraq veteran Paul Rieckhoff, founder of Iraq and
Afghanistan Veterans of America, to respond to Ajami's comments.
Rieckhoff said, "I think it's absurd David. I think it's a new low and
an act of desperation here to defend a man, comparing him to fallen
soldiers. ... Part of the soldier's creed is to say that you will
uphold the Army values and live the Army values. Those values include
honor, integrity, personal courage. They don't include lying and
breaking the law."
Rieckhoff continued, "If you are going to use us as props for a
political argument to defend Scooter Libby, you have to understand
that we're going to push back. Scooter Libby does not embody the Army
values. He is not an honorable soldier by breaking the law and lying."
At the end of the segment, Fouad Ajami returned with an attempt to
connect the 9/11 attacks to the war in Iraq.
Shuster quickly cut him off, saying, "Mr. Ajami, I'm not going to let
you end this with the idea that Iraq was part of 9/11, when everybody
knows that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11."
The following video clip is from MSNBC's Hardball, broadcast on July
6. Watch the Video at
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Hardball_David_Shusters_Libby_smackdown_extravaganza_0707.html
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Harry
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| Title: Re: Watch MSNBC Hardball host play paddle ball with head of Libby defender |
07 Jul 2007 04:39:40 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:37:51 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Hardball_David_Shusters_Libby_smackdown_extravaganza_0707.html
Saturday July 7, 2007
Hardball: David Shuster smacks down Scooter Libby defender
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
On MSNBC's Hardball on Friday, guest host David Shuster reported on a
fresh controversy surrounding the Scooter Libby pardon.
In a Wall Street Journal column on June 8, conservative Fouad Ajami
wrote "Scooter Libby was a soldier in your -- our -- war in Iraq. He
can't be left behind as a casualty of a war our country had once
proudly claimed as its own."
That remark has sparked widespread outrage.
On the other channel, I saw Bernard Goldberg on the O'Reilly faction
the other day. He claims that the Libby pardon outrage is merely a
liberal media creation because the average American is too ignorant to
know who Scooter Libby is. He said that Americans who live outside of
D.C. or Malibu can't find Kansas on the map, can't name the current
Vice-president or Secretary of State. So objections to pardoning
Libby cannot possibly be the opinion of Middle America because they
are too stupid to form such an opinion. Michelle Malkin, who was
guest hosting for Bill O., just sat there nodding her head. There you
go, Mr. and Mrs. Middle America, that was what Fox News thinks of
your reasoning skills. I hope someone puts that clip on YouTube soon.
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| User: "Flash Bazbo" |
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| Title: Re: Watch MSNBC Hardball host play paddle ball with head of Libby defender |
07 Jul 2007 06:52:40 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:39:40 GMT, Flash Bazbo
<djflsdkjf@dlsfdslkf.cmk> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:37:51 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Hardball_David_Shusters_Libby_smackdown_extravaganza_0707.html
Saturday July 7, 2007
Hardball: David Shuster smacks down Scooter Libby defender
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
On MSNBC's Hardball on Friday, guest host David Shuster reported on a
fresh controversy surrounding the Scooter Libby pardon.
In a Wall Street Journal column on June 8, conservative Fouad Ajami
wrote "Scooter Libby was a soldier in your -- our -- war in Iraq. He
can't be left behind as a casualty of a war our country had once
proudly claimed as its own."
That remark has sparked widespread outrage.
On the other channel, I saw Bernard Goldberg on the O'Reilly faction
the other day. He claims that the Libby pardon outrage is merely a
liberal media creation because the average American is too ignorant to
know who Scooter Libby is. He said that Americans who live outside of
D.C. or Malibu can't find Kansas on the map, can't name the current
Vice-president or Secretary of State. So objections to pardoning
Libby cannot possibly be the opinion of Middle America because they
are too stupid to form such an opinion. Michelle Malkin, who was
guest hosting for Bill O., just sat there nodding her head. There you
go, Mr. and Mrs. Middle America, that was what Fox News thinks of
your reasoning skills. I hope someone puts that clip on YouTube soon.
Here's the quote from the show:
"Accept for partisans, you can't find three people who live between
Manhattan and Malibu who even know who Lewis Libby is. This is an
example of a story that's big in the liberal bubble in Washington.
It's not a big story amongst regular folks in the rest of America."
"We go to the American people and we ask them if they can pick out
Kansas on a map and they can't. We ask them if they can pick out
England on a map and they can't. We ask them who the Vice-president
is, they don't have any idea. Who's the Secretary of State? "I don't
know." Then we go to them and ask them what they think of the Lewis
Libby commutation? I don't care what the American people have to say
about these things."
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/07/05/bernard_goldberg_thinks_the_american_people_yes_you_are_too_stupid_for_words.php
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