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"J. Hyderman" |
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08 Jan 2006 01:04:32 PM |
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Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity, New Yorker And College Drop-Out, Has
Decided He Knows Better Than You What's Best For Your State And Is Ready To
Meddle With Your Legal System
Sean Hannity, who never finished college and is not a Vermont resident, has
come to the conclusion that a Vermont judge should be impeached over a
criminal sentence Hannity didn't like. He has vowed to do what he can to
make that happen.
Friday night (1/6/06), Hannity & Colmes did a follow-up discussion about a
60-day sentence by a Vermont judge for a repeated child rapist.
Hannity opened the discussion by playing a clip of the judge in question,
Judge Edward Cashman explaining his controversial decision by saying that
retribution for the crime would not follow legislative directives, that it's
a waste of state money and doesn't solve the problem. That was it for the
"balance" from "fair and balanced" FOX News.
The sole guest was Vermont State Senator George Coppenrath, co-sponsor of a
bill that would make a minimum sentence of 25 years mandatory for
"aggravated sexual assault of a child younger than 12."
Hannity started out by demanding to know whether the judge's sentence was
within the guidelines. Unfortunately for Hannity's impeachment plans,
Coppenrath said it was. "60 Days for Rapist!" appeared on the screen as he
spoke.
But Hannity was not about to sacrifice his agenda for a little thing like a
judge following the law. "Is there anything that can be done to the judge,
considering his level of egregious incompetence in this case? Can he be
impeached?"
Coppenrath said he was not calling for it (though others have) and thought
that the judge's total body of work should be looked at.
Full of Hanctimoniousness, Hannity was not deterred. "Is it possible,
though? I would like to start it... Is there a procedure available to get
this guy out of office?"
Coppenrath said he thought it was "more important for the people of Vermont"
to pass the legislation than it was to impeach the judge.
Hannity, the new expert on Vermont law, decided he knew best. He declared
that he was "all for (the legislation). I'm glad you're there. You're taking
some really important action and I want everybody in Vermont to support you
but I don't want this guy to get away with this. For this judge to do this
is such an outrage and such an offense to this little girl and her family
and to the rest of society, that he is incapable of being in a position of
power like that. I'd like to know - maybe we can bring you back next week -
what procedures can we implement to get that man out of office?"
Coppenrath said he'd look into it.
When it was Alan Colmes' turn, he touched on some of the mitigating factors
of the judge's decision that Hannity ignored, such as the fact that the
rapist did not qualify for treatment if he went to jail and that he had been
deemed a low risk to re-offend. Unfortunately, Coppenrath didn't seem to
have enough information at hand to address those issues and time ran out.
Had FOX News bothered to follow its own "we report, you decide" dictum, they
might have had a reporter from Vermont or an impartial legal analyst fill in
for the viewers the facts that Hannity didn't find necessary to consider.
For example, according to The Burlington Free Press , the prosecutor had
sought a sentence of eight years, the Corrections Department had only
recommended a sentence of three years, so how long was the guy really going
to go to jail anyway given the realities of parole? Nor was there any
explanation about the circumstances of Vermont law that Colmes hinted at and
the paper briefly mentioned when it reported, (Judge) "Cashman said the (60
day) sentence would allow (the rapist), who did not qualify for sex-offender
treatment in prison, to receive treatment in the community while on
probation. If he fails to follow instructions, he could face up to life in
prison."
And while Hannity was salivating at the prospect of putting people away for
25 years, the viewers never got this important piece of information (also in
the Burlington Free Press) about why mandatory sentences may not be such a
great way to protect victims.
Sen. Vincent Illuzzi, R-Essex/Orleans, who is also Essex County state's
attorney, said the prospect of mandatory sentences prompts more suspects to
take their cases to trial, which presents greater risk that the offender
will serve no time. Particularly with sex crimes, he said, there are often
no witnesses. "It's sometimes a roll of the dice as to who they're going to
believe. Does a prosecutor want to take a chance?"
Near the end of the segment, "60 Days For Rapist!" reappeared underneath a
prompt on the screen to contact Vermont state representatives. It was pretty
obvious what FOX News decided the viewers should report.
http://www.newshounds.us/2006/01/08/watch_out_vermont_sean_hannity_new_yorker_and_college_dropout_has_decided_he_knows_better_than_you_whats_best_for_your_state_and_is_ready_to_meddle_with_your_legal_system.php
Moving on, i found a comment which I've copied and pasted below:
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Shut up, pussies. Stop complaining about your dead grandmother in New
Orleans. Before leaving for his holiday vacation, George Bush told the press
that 2005 was "a great year for the American people". Why was it a good
year? Because a lot of poor, welfare-mooching, black people drowned, a lot
of U.S. soldiers got killed and blown up, a man who admits he hates the U.N.
is now the U.N. ambassador, a man who admits that he's "not qualified" now
runs the CIA, creepy-***** Harriet (Palpatine) Miers gave George a hard-on,
oil prices sky-rocketed over the summer, global warming created like 157
hurricanes, General Motors laid off over 30,000 jobs, Sean Hannity is still
alive, the U.S. Government is spying on its own citizens, and George W. Bush
got away with another year of lies, deceit and illegality. Seriously, he got
away totally scott free. So, f*** you, Ohio. And f*** you, Florida. And
while I'm at it, a whopping mother-f*** to you, Utah...
Posted by: Sonny
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| User: "911" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
08 Jan 2006 04:42:29 PM |
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"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
news:4ndwf.45520$dO2.21503@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity, New Yorker And College Drop-Out, Has
Decided He Knows Better Than You What's Best For Your State And Is Ready
To Meddle With Your Legal System
Sean Hannity, who never finished college and is not a Vermont resident,
has come to the conclusion that a Vermont judge should be impeached over a
criminal sentence Hannity didn't like. He has vowed to do what he can to
make that happen.
Wow. J. Hyderman, siding with child rapists. Hmmm.... sumthin tells me J.
Hyderman is planning to move to that Judge's district real soon so'ins he
can practice his hobby in this newly discovered sanctuary for child
rapists..
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| User: "J. Hyderman" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
08 Jan 2006 10:20:11 PM |
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"911" <911@911.911> wrote in message
news:pzgwf.6891$M%4.1534@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
news:4ndwf.45520$dO2.21503@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity, New Yorker And College Drop-Out, Has
Decided He Knows Better Than You What's Best For Your State And Is Ready
To Meddle With Your Legal System
Sean Hannity, who never finished college and is not a Vermont resident,
has come to the conclusion that a Vermont judge should be impeached over
a criminal sentence Hannity didn't like. He has vowed to do what he can
to make that happen.
Wow. J. Hyderman, siding with child rapists. Hmmm.... sumthin tells me J.
Hyderman is planning to move to that Judge's district real soon so'ins he
can practice his hobby in this newly discovered sanctuary for child
rapists..
WOW! "911" siding with a know fascist, brown-shirted goose-stepper. Whi
would've guessed. The Shiavo case should give you dummies a clue. Keep
your right-winged, kooky opines to yourselves and justice will prevail.
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| User: "whofan" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
08 Jan 2006 03:03:42 PM |
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J. Hyderman wrote:
Friday night (1/6/06), Hannity & Colmes did a follow-up discussion about a
60-day sentence by a Vermont judge for a repeated child rapist.
Hmmmm....so you agree with a 60 day jail sentence for a confessed
paedophile rapist that repeatedly raped a 7 year old girl for 3 years????
The nutcase of a judge does indeed need to be removed from the
bench if he's handing down sentences like this for heinous crimes
such as rape of a child.
Do you *seriously* think that 60 days in jail is appropriate for
the crime committed?????
Sean Hannity as well as many others are going to be calling for
this judge to be removed - as well he should be!!!
Here's hoping 61 days from now, we hear about some good ol'
fashioned vigilantism when the scumbag is released from jail.
I wonder what type of sentence the judge would assign to the
murderer of this scumbag rapist???? 90 days perhaps??? Afterall,
the judge doesn't believe in punishment anymore. What a joke.
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| User: "J. Hyderman" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
08 Jan 2006 03:20:01 PM |
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"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
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J. Hyderman wrote:
Friday night (1/6/06), Hannity & Colmes did a follow-up discussion about
a 60-day sentence by a Vermont judge for a repeated child rapist.
Hmmmm....so you agree with a 60 day jail sentence for a confessed
paedophile rapist that repeatedly raped a 7 year old girl for 3 years????
The nutcase of a judge does indeed need to be removed from the
bench if he's handing down sentences like this for heinous crimes
such as rape of a child.
Do you *seriously* think that 60 days in jail is appropriate for
the crime committed?????
No, I believe the rapist should be castated and burned in an oil drum,
alive. Why?
Do you think Sean Insannity should be the vigilante of America?
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| User: "E.E.Bud Keith" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
08 Jan 2006 05:25:05 PM |
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"J. Hyderman" <uuu@ert.net> wrote in message
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"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e6CdnU92oJ6z41zeRVn-tw@rcn.net...
J. Hyderman wrote:
Friday night (1/6/06), Hannity & Colmes did a follow-up discussion about
a 60-day sentence by a Vermont judge for a repeated child rapist.
Hmmmm....so you agree with a 60 day jail sentence for a confessed
paedophile rapist that repeatedly raped a 7 year old girl for 3 years????
The nutcase of a judge does indeed need to be removed from the
bench if he's handing down sentences like this for heinous crimes
such as rape of a child.
Do you *seriously* think that 60 days in jail is appropriate for
the crime committed?????
No, I believe the rapist should be castated and burned in an oil drum,
alive. Why?
Do you think Sean Insannity should be the vigilante of America?
Lets look at the facts, good old hyderman thinks that the guy ahould be
castratedand burned in an oil drum.
Then why is he so upset with Hannity all Sean wabts to do is send him to
jail where he belongs. Further he would also like to see Judges who render
judgements like this impeached.
But hyderman thinks that is terrible,why? Well the facts seem to point out
that Hyderman is a left wing kook liberal who hates all conservatives. Since
Hannity
is a outspoken conservative our liberal pal attacks him with a total
disregard for the case itself.
So in truth Hyderman would just as soon see a child molester go free, rather
then admit that some conservative he hates is right.
It is that kind of fuzzy thinking that keeps liberals from wining elections.
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| User: "whofan" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Out Vermont! Sean Hannity knows What's Good for YOU! |
08 Jan 2006 03:58:44 PM |
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J. Hyderman wrote:
"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e6CdnU92oJ6z41zeRVn-tw@rcn.net...
J. Hyderman wrote:
Friday night (1/6/06), Hannity & Colmes did a follow-up discussion about
a 60-day sentence by a Vermont judge for a repeated child rapist.
Hmmmm....so you agree with a 60 day jail sentence for a confessed
paedophile rapist that repeatedly raped a 7 year old girl for 3 years????
The nutcase of a judge does indeed need to be removed from the
bench if he's handing down sentences like this for heinous crimes
such as rape of a child.
Do you *seriously* think that 60 days in jail is appropriate for
the crime committed?????
No, I believe the rapist should be castated and burned in an oil drum,
alive. Why?
Phew. Well at least we agree on what the fate of the rapist should be.
Do you think Sean Insannity should be the vigilante of America?
No, however - this story is being talked about on lots of forums and
various broadcasts. Hannity is one. Jay Severin was discussing it on
Friday. Several stations in Boston are discussing it. Hannity is not the
lone voice in going after this joke of a judge.
This judge *needs* to be removed if he truly no longer believes in
punishment for criminals (which is what he is quoted as saying).
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| User: "J. Hyderman" |
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08 Jan 2006 04:06:38 PM |
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"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
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J. Hyderman wrote:
"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e6CdnU92oJ6z41zeRVn-tw@rcn.net...
J. Hyderman wrote:
Friday night (1/6/06), Hannity & Colmes did a follow-up discussion about
a 60-day sentence by a Vermont judge for a repeated child rapist.
Hmmmm....so you agree with a 60 day jail sentence for a confessed
paedophile rapist that repeatedly raped a 7 year old girl for 3 years????
The nutcase of a judge does indeed need to be removed from the
bench if he's handing down sentences like this for heinous crimes
such as rape of a child.
Do you *seriously* think that 60 days in jail is appropriate for
the crime committed?????
No, I believe the rapist should be castated and burned in an oil drum,
alive. Why?
Phew. Well at least we agree on what the fate of the rapist should be.
Do you think Sean Insannity should be the vigilante of America?
No, however - this story is being talked about on lots of forums and
various broadcasts. Hannity is one. Jay Severin was discussing it on
Friday. Several stations in Boston are discussing it. Hannity is not the
lone voice in going after this joke of a judge.
This judge *needs* to be removed if he truly no longer believes in
punishment for criminals (which is what he is quoted as saying).
Trouble is the Judge was following the letter of the current law. That's
all the law apparently allowed, unfortunately.
It's one reason California went to the now abused 3 strikes law in the 90's,
sentences weren't harsh enough for repeat offenders.
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| User: "whofan" |
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08 Jan 2006 05:32:27 PM |
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J. Hyderman wrote:
This judge *needs* to be removed if he truly no longer believes in
punishment for criminals (which is what he is quoted as saying).
Trouble is the Judge was following the letter of the current law. That's
all the law apparently allowed, unfortunately.
It's one reason California went to the now abused 3 strikes law in the 90's,
sentences weren't harsh enough for repeat offenders.
Here's a link to the story (granted, it doesn't cover all of the
specifics of the case:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1552368/posts
The judge could have sentenced this scum to 8 years or more, however
the joke of a judge feels that this perve would be better off receiving
treatment....which isn't allowed while serving the sentence (which
seems wierd). Here's what the link above says:
Burlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2006
There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day
jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a
four-year span starting when she was seven.
The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned
about rehabilitation.
Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of
Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly
raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven.
But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes
that punishment works.
"The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve
anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman
speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were
related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was
in court to be sentenced.
The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was
ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in
prison, in part, as punishment.
"Punishment is a valid purpose," Chittenden Deputy Prosecutor Nicole
Andreson argued to Judge Edward Cashman.
"The state recognizes that the court may not agree or subscribe to that
method of sentencing but the state does. The state thinks that it is a
very important factor for the court to consider," Andreson added.
But Judge Cashman explained that he is more concerned that Hulett
receive sex offender treatment as rehabilitation. But under Department
of Corrections classification, Hulett is considered a low-risk for
re-offense so he does not qualify for in-prison treatment.So the judge
sentenced him to just 60 days in prison and then Hulett must complete
sex treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence.
Judge Cashman also also revealed that he once handed down stiff
sentences when he first got on the bench 25 years ago, but he no longer
believes in punishment.
"I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything
better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and
we feed on anger,"Cashman explained to the people in the court.
The sentence outraged the victim's family who asked not to be identified.
"I don't like it," the victim's mother,in tears, told Channel 3. "He
should pay for what he did to my baby and stop it here. She's not even
home with me and he can be home for all this time, and do what he did in
my house," she added.
Hulett -- who had been out on bail-- was taken away to start his
sentence immediately.
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| User: "" |
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08 Jan 2006 03:42:01 PM |
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sexual assault of anyone should be a mandatory death
sentance...anything less and another victim will suffer at the hands of
the uncurable sexual deviant. Judges and juries should also be held
responsible for their actions...when a convicted child molester,
murderer or other violent criminal is released from prison and commits
a crime against another person...that person and their family should be
able to hold the jury and the judge accountable and liable for monetary
damages....massive and unfair monetary damages.....
maybe if these judges and juries faced losing everything they own maybe
they would get tough on crime.
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