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"Harry Hope" |
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18 Apr 2006 08:03:49 AM |
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Watergate-style probe of Bush urged |
"There was understandable reluctance in the Congress to begin a
serious investigation of the Nixon presidency.
Then there came a time when it was unavoidable. That time in the Bush
presidency has arrived."
From Reuters, 4/18/06:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12361384/from/RSS/
Carl Bernstein calls for probe of Bush
Journalist urges Watergate-style investigation in Senate
LOS ANGELES -
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Carl Bernstein, who with Bob
Woodward helped expose President Nixon's role in the Watergate
scandal, Monday called for the U.S. Senate to open a full-scale probe
of President Bush's conduct in office.
Writing in the online edition of Vanity Fair magazine, Bernstein said
that during Watergate "there was understandable reluctance in the
Congress to begin a serious investigation of the Nixon presidency.
Then there came a time when it was unavoidable. That time in the Bush
presidency has arrived."
He said the investigation should concentrate on the run-up to war in
Iraq, the leak of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity to the
press and the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina.
Bernstein said that any Senate investigation must not be a fishing
expedition but try to determine whether "lying, disinformation,
misinformation and manipulation of information have been a basic
matter of policy" in the Bush administration.
"We have no trustworthy official record of what has occurred in almost
any aspect of this administration," he said, adding, "Nor will we
until the subpoena powers of the Congress are used (as in Watergate)
to find out the facts."
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An investigation of this criminal administration's destruction of our
nation is long overdue.
Harry
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| User: "Dan Kimmel" |
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| Title: Re: Watergate-style probe of Bush urged |
18 Apr 2006 08:25:18 AM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:tvo9425oaedec7v3d6ti643t4d54plqi2a@4ax.com...
"There was understandable reluctance in the Congress to begin a
serious investigation of the Nixon presidency.
Then there came a time when it was unavoidable. That time in the Bush
presidency has arrived."
From Reuters, 4/18/06:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12361384/from/RSS/
Carl Bernstein calls for probe of Bush
Journalist urges Watergate-style investigation in Senate
LOS ANGELES -
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Carl Bernstein, who with Bob
Woodward helped expose President Nixon's role in the Watergate
scandal, Monday called for the U.S. Senate to open a full-scale probe
of President Bush's conduct in office.
Writing in the online edition of Vanity Fair magazine, Bernstein said
that during Watergate "there was understandable reluctance in the
Congress to begin a serious investigation of the Nixon presidency.
Then there came a time when it was unavoidable. That time in the Bush
presidency has arrived."
He said the investigation should concentrate on the run-up to war in
Iraq, the leak of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity to the
press and the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina.
Bernstein said that any Senate investigation must not be a fishing
expedition but try to determine whether "lying, disinformation,
misinformation and manipulation of information have been a basic
matter of policy" in the Bush administration.
"We have no trustworthy official record of what has occurred in almost
any aspect of this administration," he said, adding, "Nor will we
until the subpoena powers of the Congress are used (as in Watergate)
to find out the facts."
_____________________________________________________________
An investigation of this criminal administration's destruction of our
nation is long overdue.
And I would include the illegal domestic spying as well.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Watergate-style probe of Bush urged |
19 Apr 2006 09:42:07 PM |
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I think there MUST be a investigation, if for no other reason than
distracting Bush so he cant do more harm to the country.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Watergate-style probe of Bush urged |
18 Apr 2006 08:06:08 AM |
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I am withholding my name for reasons that I will not explain, here, in
this post and I will use the pseudonym "David Andrew" in referring to
myself. I am an inventor and non-degreed engineer working in Los
Angeles and Santa Monica California. I am able to provide strong and
compelling evidence that elememts connected to the Department of
Defense are involved in domestic harassment and assault of American
citizens; this concerns issues that are sensitive that cannot be made
public at the present time. I am trying to establish 'safe-passage' to
speak with a FISA judge or to the Senate Intelligence Committee where I
can provide the above referred evidence.
David Andrew _______,
Los Angeles, California
041706
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| User: "Scott Nudds" |
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| Title: Re: Watergate-style probe of Bush urged |
18 Apr 2006 08:27:16 AM |
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wrote:
I am withholding my name for reasons that I will not explain, here, in
this post and I will use the pseudonym "David Andrew" in referring to
myself. I am an inventor and non-degreed engineer working in Los
Angeles and Santa Monica California. I am able to provide strong and
compelling evidence that elememts connected to the Department of
Defense are involved in domestic harassment and assault of American
citizens; this concerns issues that are sensitive that cannot be made
public at the present time. I am trying to establish 'safe-passage' to
speak with a FISA judge or to the Senate Intelligence Committee where I
can provide the above referred evidence.
David Andrew _______,
Los Angeles, California
041706
California? Aren't you in Pennsylvania? Maybe Adelphia Cable will be
subpoenaed after your post. You've be hacked, you jarring idle-headed
giglet. Try Linux next time.
CBS 60 Minutes would like a word with you.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Watergate-style probe of Bush urged |
19 Apr 2006 07:41:50 PM |
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To whom it may concern,
Beginning approximately 5 1/2 years ago, in October 2000, my life
underwent what I will characterize as "immense change" due to a set of
events that occurred; many of the details of which, in my judgement, I
do not feel are appropriate to talk about publically yet; so at the
present time I will remain silent on these issues. This puts me, in
writing this document and also, in general, in communicating about
these events, in a difficult
position; the difficult position of having to be circumspect in my
description of these events. So given this understanding, that I will
be circumspect in my description, I will, briefly and very generally
describe these events.
I am a non-degreed engineer and inventor. My work generally draws from
wide variety of fields and areas of study that include aspects of
electronics and applied physics. I work on projects that are most often
deemed to be novel by my understanding of the prior art involved and by
those of my peers that have an understanding of these projects. For
many years prior to 5 1/2 years ago I would often work on many projects
simultaneously, many of these being conceptual in nature; I often work
in an "abbreviated manner" in terms of recordation. Following, the
description of the above referred events will be very general and
brief; this is intentional. I am able to describe these events in
detail but, as mentioned above, I will not do so here in this document.
In October 2000, in what appears to be a response to my communication
with another company, I became aware that industrial espionage may be
occurring at my shop at 2310 28th Street in Santa Monica California; I
then further investigated this possibilty which yielded additional
indication that theft of tradesecrets may have in fact occurred and may
have been ongoing; this included the possible use of TEMPEST
technology. I subsequently informed local law enforcement who referred
me to federal authorities. I contacted federal authorities which
included the FBI and later the NSA. By about late
Feburary 2001 it became apparent to me that federal authorities and/or
operatives for federal authorities, hereafter referred to as "federal
authorities," had arrived. However I came to this conclusion by
observation and was never contacted in what I would consider a "direct
manner" with one exception; a person who I have known for many years
who had contacts at, and a relationship with, the Department of
Defense; I will refer to this person with the pseudonym "Bob."
Beginning in Jan/Feb 2001 I recieved threatening letters; I was
subjected to harassment that included a threating request for aspects
of my work by 'door to door' sales people; a sequence of events then
unfolded into what I would characterize as culminating in "a dispute"
with federal authorities (the details of which touch an issue that is
cleary 'sensitive'). My shop was then entered with clear indications
that documents (paper documents) had been examined. I was subjected to
what I would plainly characterize as "violent assualt" that included
the use of volitile chemicals; I will not
detail the exact nature of the assualt here in this document. The
harassment and assualt continued; it appeared to me at the time that a
possible objective was to bring an end to my life and certainly there
was no way to remain in my shop.
In the course of telephone conversations with Bob in
Feburary/March/April 2001, he suggested to me that I was in trouble for
"trying to do business with a known spy." Bob explained to me that
"there was nothing that he could do," "I should just try to stay alive"
and many other details including, at a later date, instructions that I
was to move all of my materials into storage with the qualification
"that I can take my books" but that "I should not take my laptop
computer"; that the laptop must remain in storage. The storage location
is located at Westwood Self Storage; I have not entered this unit since
depositing the remaining contents of my shop into this unit however I
have reason to believe that the unit may have been accessed and some of
its contents altered and/or
destroyed. I was also informed by Bob that "you will never get credit
for your work". After many weeks of "fighting it out," trying to remain
in my shop, I left to stay at my mothers house; actually this happened
in a manner where I came back to my shop and tried to resume work and
was repeatedly forced out. My shop remained abandoned for months with
me only returning for a few minutes at a time in order to feed my cats.
To my
knowledge, the address 2310 28th Street no longer exists; the units
2308 and 2310 were combined to form the address 2308.
Intermittent harassment and assault has continued up until recently,
some examples include being 'drugged'; verbally-delivered threats to my
own well being and well being of loved ones; disappearence of emails
from Bob and unauthorized access to one of my voice messaging systems.
An important question for me to state my awareness of, and that persons
reading this document would likely ask, is "why has the assault, that I
allege, been essentially non-lethal?" Although I believe that I know
the answer to the aforementioned question, it is not a requirement that
this question initially be answered in light of evidence that I am able
to provide (see last paragraph of this document).
I strongly believe that Bob tried to get the assualt to stop, and
subsequently clearly appeared to have been assualted in such a manner
so as to discredit him. As of the 030606 writing of this document Bob
was no longer talking with me directly about these events and in
conversations with Bob prior to 030606 he appeared to be frightened; it
appeared that he had been somehow threatened. I have been reduced to
survival; being
cautious about many aspects of my life. My outward manifest
productivity has dropped to near zero. These events have had a profound
impact on my life and career. I write this letter with the
understanding that there is likely significant risk to my personal
safety involved. I love my country; and what I have seen makes me
realize that because of my nature I have no choice but to continue to
try to report to the proper authority about these crimes including the
possibility that sensitive information related to our national security
has been compromised. Following is partial summary of a letter that I
have tried to disseminate to senators, public officials, the ACLU and
to the press. I have, thus far, not recieved any response.
My name is David Astin. I am a non-degreed engineer and inventor. I am
able to produce strong and compelling evidence that elements connected
to the Department of Defense are involved in domestic harassment,
assault and possible assasination of American citizens; this concerns
issues that are sensitive that cannot be made public at the present
time. I am trying to establish 'safe passage' to the Senate
Intelligence Committee where I can provide the afore mentioned
evidence.
David A. Astin
041806 Los Angeles, California
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| User: "" |
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19 Apr 2006 09:36:25 PM |
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To whom it may concern,
Beginning approximately 5 1/2 years ago, in October 2000, my life
underwent what I will characterize as "immense change" due to a set of
events that occurred; many of the details of which, in my judgment, I
do not feel are appropriate to talk about publicly yet; so at the
present time I will remain silent on these issues. This puts me, in
writing this document and also, in general, in communicating about
these events, in a difficult position; the difficult position of having
to be circumspect in my description of these events. So given this
understanding, that I will be circumspect in my description, I will,
briefly and very generally describe these events.
I am a non-degreed engineer and inventor. My work generally draws from
wide variety of fields and areas of study that include aspects of
electronics and applied physics. I work on projects that are most often
deemed to be novel by my understanding of the prior art involved and by
those of my peers that have an understanding of these projects. For
many years prior to 5 1/2 years ago I would often work on many projects
simultaneously, many of these being conceptual in nature; I often work
in an "abbreviated manner" in terms of recordation. Following, the
description of the above referred events will be very general and
brief; this is intentional. I am able to describe these events in
detail but, as mentioned above, I will not do so here in this document.
In October 2000, in what appears to be a response to my communication
with another company, I became aware that industrial espionage may be
occurring at my shop at 2310 28th Street in Santa Monica California; I
then further investigated this possibility which yielded additional
indication that theft of trade secrets may have in fact occurred and
may have been ongoing; this included the possible use of TEMPEST
technology. I subsequently informed local law enforcement who referred
me to federal authorities. I contacted federal authorities which
included the FBI and later the NSA. By about late February 2001 it
became apparent to me that federal authorities and/or operatives for
federal authorities, hereafter referred to as "federal authorities,"
had arrived. However I came to this conclusion by observation and was
never contacted in what I would consider a "direct manner" with one
exception; a person who I have known for many years who had contacts
at, and a relationship with, the Department of Defense; I will refer to
this person with the pseudonym "Bob."
Beginning in Jan/Feb 2001 I received threatening letters; I was
subjected to harassment that included a threatening request for aspects
of my work by 'door to door' sales people; a sequence of events then
unfolded into what I would characterize as culminating in "a dispute"
with federal authorities (the details of which touch an issue that is
clearly 'sensitive'). My shop was then entered with clear indications
that documents (paper documents) had been examined. I was subjected to
what I would plainly characterize as "violent assault" that included
the use of volatile chemicals; I will not detail the exact nature of
the assault here in this document. The harassment and assault
continued; it appeared to me at the time that a possible objective was
to bring an end to my life and certainly there was no way to remain in
my shop. In the course of telephone conversations with Bob in
February/March/April 2001, he suggested to me that I was in trouble for
"trying to do business with a known spy." Bob explained to me that
"there was nothing that he could do," "I should just try to stay alive"
and many other details including, at a later date, instructions that I
was to move all of my materials into storage with the qualification
"that I can take my books" but that "I should not take my laptop
computer"; that the laptop must remain in storage. The storage location
is located at Westwood Self Storage; I have not entered this unit since
depositing the remaining contents of my shop into this unit however I
have reason to believe that the unit may have been accessed and some of
its contents altered and/or destroyed. I was also informed by Bob that
"you will never get credit for your work". After many weeks of
"fighting it out," trying to remain in my shop, I left to stay at my
mother's house; actually this happened in a manner where I came back
to my shop and tried to resume work and was repeatedly forced out. My
shop remained abandoned for months with me only returning for a few
minutes at a time in order to feed my cats. To my knowledge, the
address 2310 28th Street no longer exists; the units 2308 and 2310 were
combined to form the address 2308.
Intermittent harassment and assault has continued up until recently,
some examples include being 'drugged'; verbally-delivered threats to my
own well being and well being of loved ones; disappearance of emails
from Bob and unauthorized access to one of my voice messaging systems.
An important
question for me to state my awareness of, and a question that persons
reading this document would likely ask, is "why has the assault that I
allege been essentially non-lethal?" I do not know the answer to the
aforementioned question however I firmly believe that I am able to
provide useful information in connection with answering this question
although it is not a requirement that this question initially be
answered in light of evidence that I am able to provide (see last
paragraph of this document).
It appeared that Bob tried to get the assault to stop, and subsequently
Bob clearly appeared to have been assaulted in such a manner so as to
discredit him. As of the 030606 writing of this document Bob was no
longer talking with me directly about these events and in conversations
with Bob prior to 030606 he appeared to be frightened; it appeared that
he had been somehow threatened. I have been reduced to survival; being
cautious about many aspects of my life. My outward manifest
productivity has dropped to near zero. These events have had a profound
impact on my life and career. I write this letter with the
understanding that there is likely significant risk to my personal
safety involved. I love my country; and what I have seen makes me
realize that because of my nature I have no choice but to continue to
try to report to the proper authority about these crimes including the
possibility that sensitive information related to our national security
has been compromised. Following is partial summary of a letter that I
have tried to disseminate to senators, public officials, the ACLU and
to the press. I have, thus far, not received any response.
My name is David Astin. I am a non-degreed engineer and inventor. I am
able to produce strong and compelling evidence that elements connected
to the Department of Defense are involved in domestic harassment,
assault and possible assassination of American citizens; this concerns
issues that are sensitive that cannot be made public at the present
time. I am trying to establish 'safe passage' to the Senate
Intelligence Committee where I can provide the aforementioned evidence.
David A. Astin
041806 Los Angeles, California
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