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User: ""
Date: 31 Oct 2007 11:07:26 PM
Object: "WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED" - Congress Moves Us One Step Closer to Despotism
Heard about the "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM ACT"
that passed in the House last week?
Like your freedom of speech?
If you answered "no" and "yes," respectively, to the above questions
you need to read this entire message. REALLY.
[Note: I have pasted at the end of this post, in its entirety, the
original "WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED!" post by author "Lookout" about the
UNBELIEVABLY UN-AMERICAN "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN
TERRORISM ACT" that the House of Whores passed a few days ago. EVERY
AMERICAN NEEDS TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS NEFARIOUS TOOL WHICH -- NO
EXAGGERATION -- COULD TRULY SQUELCH FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IN AMERICA
VERY SOON.]
On Oct 27, 5:15 am, John Husvar <jhus...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They'll _all_ jail people for thought crimes. Just not all; will call it
that. If "they" want one's *****, "they"'ll get it; legal or not, just or
not, right or rights notwithstanding. The only real defense is to adopt
the aphorism: "It's a good day to die" -- and mean it. Then maybe, just
maybe, one won't. People who aren't afraid to die generally aren't
afraid to live either.

The heroic longtime thorn-in-the-side of the USSR's Communist
tyrants, Aleksander Solzhenitsn, once wrote (I wish someone could find
the exact passage) that during his years in the Siberian gulag (he was
send there for thought crimes, remember) the prisoners often mulled
dejectedly over the reality that if everyone who received the dreaded
midnight "knock on the door" of their home had SHOT OR OTHERWISED
SMASHED one or two of the officials who came to take them away within
a very shor time THE STATE WOULD HAVE RUN OUT OF SUCH OFFICIALS.
Another "Alexander," this one an American -- Alexander Hamilton --
himself made the very same point centuries before:
If the representatives of the people betray their
constituents,
there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that
original right of self-defense which is paramount to all
positive forms of government ... The citizens must rush
tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system,
without resource; except in their courage and
despair ...
The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is
greater
than in a small, and of course more competent to a struggle
with the attempts of the government to establish a tyranny ...
the people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely
the masters of their own fate.
-- Alexander Hamilton
Believe it or not, folks, THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO BEQUEATHED THIS
GREAT REPUBLIC TO US HAD THE FORESIGHT TO ALSO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE
GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN PATRIOTS WHO WOULD FOLLOW THEM.
Remember: it was just last summer that radio host Hal Turner -- love
him or hate him -- posted the HOME ADDRESSES OF MOST PRO-AMNESTY U.S.
SENATORS. Doing this scared the Senators (not ONE of whom isn't a
multimillionaire, I believe) sh*tless.
The result? AMNESTY FAILED.
Basically, the traitors and would-be traitors must be brought to the
point where they must ponder what means more to them: their
prospective careers wielding power and making money in politics and
business by continuing to stab the American People in the back in de-
Americanized America OR what's REALLY most important to them.
I'm going to use an analogy, *not* to be taken literally (I don't
advocate illegality, only what the Founding Fathers such as George
Washington, Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson advised): Remember
the scene in The Godfather in which Michael Corleone recounts to his
fiancee that his father's friends convinced a stubborn bandleader
paying peanuts to do the right thing by offering the him the choice of
either having his signature or his brains on a profferred contract
that would release his father's protege from his then career-limiting
agreement?
Here are some other words of wisdom and guidance our Founding
Fathers left us. Hopefully they will begin to be read by more and more
Americans who'll really take them to heart.
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of
arms.
-- Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the
right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to
protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-- Thomas Jefferson
As our enemies have found we can reason like men,
so now let us show them we can fight like men also.
-- Thomas Jefferson
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on
certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
-- Thomas Jefferson
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of
any government, and to protect its free expression should
be our first object.
-- Thomas Jefferson
We in America do not have government by the majority.
We have government by the majority who participate.
-- Thomas Jefferson
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of
good conscience to remain silent.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Every government degenerates when trusted to the
rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are
its only safe depositories.
-- Thomas Jefferson
In matters of style, swim with the current; in
matters of principle, stand like a rock.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Don't talk about what you have done or what you are
going to do.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case
with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every
free state.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act!
Action will delineate and define you.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand
on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that
from which they draw their gains.
-- Thomas Jefferson
I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our
monied corporations which dare already to challenge
our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance
to the laws of our country.
-- Thomas Jefferson
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous
to our liberties than standing armies.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Experience demands that man is the only animal which
devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to
the general prey of the rich on the poor.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms
of government those entrusted with power have, in time,
and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
-- Thomas Jefferson
If ye love wealth better than freedom, the tranquility of
servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from
us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands that feed you.
May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity
forget that ye were our countrymen.
-- Samuel Adams
25 October 2007
WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED!
VERY QUIETLY AND WITHOUT ANY MEDIA ATTENTION, THE U.S.
CONGRESS INTRODUCED THE "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND
HOMEGROWN TERRORISM ACT" BACK IN APRIL
THE BILL WENT QUIETLY THROUGH COMMITTEE -
AND WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TODAY!
The Bill creates a Commission which will study how to prohibit ". . .
.. .the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief
system . .
.. . .to advance political, religious, or social change.. . . ."
Folks, they are trying to outlaw what people are able to BELIEVE.
Outlaw what opinions people are able to utter!
Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill opens the first skirmish in what will
become a direct legislative assault upon our most basic right to
freedom of THOUGHT and the ability to speak those thoughts!
Under this type of Legislative thinking, George Washington, Thomas
Jefferson Alexander Hamilton and the other Founding Fathers, would be
jailed!!!!
Congress has just fired the first shot against what we can THINK! The
implications of this effort by government are terrifying. Just open
your mouth and say the wrong "radical" thing and POW: you're a
"homegrown terrorist." A "radical." Or perhaps a word we've all come
to know quite well, "militant." We hear about "militants" all the
time
these days. . . . "U.S. troops killed x number of Iraqi militants
today. . . . . ."
By passing this Bill, the federal government of the United States has
officially embarked upon tyranny. Absolute despotism.
It is time for us to muster our resources and engage in the most
fierce poltical battle imaginable. If we don't get together to fight
this thing right now; we will be left with no choice but to take up
arms or submit to absolute despotism in as little as 18 months!
Go here for the details of the bill
http://www.halturnershow.com/ViolentRadicalizationAndHomegrownTerrori...
.

User: "Vandar"

Title: Re: "WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED" - Congress Moves Us One Step Closer toDespotism 01 Nov 2007 07:33:32 AM
wrote:

Heard about the "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM ACT"
that passed in the House last week?

Like your freedom of speech?

If you answered "no" and "yes," respectively, to the above questions
you need to read this entire message. REALLY.

[Note: I have pasted at the end of this post, in its entirety, the
original "WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED!" post by author "Lookout" about the
UNBELIEVABLY UN-AMERICAN "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN
TERRORISM ACT" that the House of Whores passed a few days ago. EVERY
AMERICAN NEEDS TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS NEFARIOUS TOOL WHICH -- NO
EXAGGERATION -- COULD TRULY SQUELCH FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IN AMERICA
VERY SOON.]

On Oct 27, 5:15 am, John Husvar <jhus...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


They'll _all_ jail people for thought crimes. Just not all; will call it
that. If "they" want one's *****, "they"'ll get it; legal or not, just or
not, right or rights notwithstanding. The only real defense is to adopt
the aphorism: "It's a good day to die" -- and mean it. Then maybe, just
maybe, one won't. People who aren't afraid to die generally aren't
afraid to live either.



The heroic longtime thorn-in-the-side of the USSR's Communist
tyrants, Aleksander Solzhenitsn, once wrote (I wish someone could find
the exact passage) that during his years in the Siberian gulag (he was
send there for thought crimes, remember) the prisoners often mulled
dejectedly over the reality that if everyone who received the dreaded
midnight "knock on the door" of their home had SHOT OR OTHERWISED
SMASHED one or two of the officials who came to take them away within
a very shor time THE STATE WOULD HAVE RUN OUT OF SUCH OFFICIALS.

Another "Alexander," this one an American -- Alexander Hamilton --
himself made the very same point centuries before:

If the representatives of the people betray their
constituents,
there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that
original right of self-defense which is paramount to all
positive forms of government ... The citizens must rush
tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system,
without resource; except in their courage and
despair ...

The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is
greater
than in a small, and of course more competent to a struggle
with the attempts of the government to establish a tyranny ...
the people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely
the masters of their own fate.

-- Alexander Hamilton

Believe it or not, folks, THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO BEQUEATHED THIS
GREAT REPUBLIC TO US HAD THE FORESIGHT TO ALSO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE
GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN PATRIOTS WHO WOULD FOLLOW THEM.

Remember: it was just last summer that radio host Hal Turner -- love
him or hate him -- posted the HOME ADDRESSES OF MOST PRO-AMNESTY U.S.
SENATORS. Doing this scared the Senators (not ONE of whom isn't a
multimillionaire, I believe) sh*tless.

The result? AMNESTY FAILED.

Turner had nothing to do with it. Pull your head out of his lying *****.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: "WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED" - Congress Moves Us One Step Closer to Despotism 01 Nov 2007 05:22:14 AM
On Nov 1, 12:07 am, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@adelphia.com"
<guybanniste...@aol.com> wrote:

Heard about the "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM ACT"
that passed in the House last week?

Like your freedom of speech?

Most of us do, that's why most qualified people
don't work any US Government wanks anymore,
not only not The Congress. Since the only people
who ever get elected are delegates to the
Rupert Murdoch Gestapo Convention anyway.


If you answered "no" and "yes," respectively, to the above questions
you need to read this entire message. REALLY.

[Note: I have pasted at the end of this post, in its entirety, the
original "WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED!" post by author "Lookout" about the
UNBELIEVABLY UN-AMERICAN "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN
TERRORISM ACT" that the House of Whores passed a few days ago. EVERY
AMERICAN NEEDS TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS NEFARIOUS TOOL WHICH -- NO
EXAGGERATION -- COULD TRULY SQUELCH FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IN AMERICA
VERY SOON.]

On Oct 27, 5:15 am, John Husvar <jhus...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

They'll _all_ jail people for thought crimes. Just not all; will call it
that. If "they" want one's *****, "they"'ll get it; legal or not, just or
not, right or rights notwithstanding. The only real defense is to adopt
the aphorism: "It's a good day to die" -- and mean it. Then maybe, just
maybe, one won't. People who aren't afraid to die generally aren't
afraid to live either.


The heroic longtime thorn-in-the-side of the USSR's Communist
tyrants, Aleksander Solzhenitsn, once wrote (I wish someone could find
the exact passage) that during his years in the Siberian gulag (he was
send there for thought crimes, remember) the prisoners often mulled
dejectedly over the reality that if everyone who received the dreaded
midnight "knock on the door" of their home had SHOT OR OTHERWISED
SMASHED one or two of the officials who came to take them away within
a very shor time THE STATE WOULD HAVE RUN OUT OF SUCH OFFICIALS.

Another "Alexander," this one an American -- Alexander Hamilton --
himself made the very same point centuries before:

If the representatives of the people betray their
constituents,
there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that
original right of self-defense which is paramount to all
positive forms of government ... The citizens must rush
tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system,
without resource; except in their courage and
despair ...

The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is
greater
than in a small, and of course more competent to a struggle
with the attempts of the government to establish a tyranny ...
the people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely
the masters of their own fate.

-- Alexander Hamilton

Believe it or not, folks, THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO BEQUEATHED THIS
GREAT REPUBLIC TO US HAD THE FORESIGHT TO ALSO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE
GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN PATRIOTS WHO WOULD FOLLOW THEM.

Remember: it was just last summer that radio host Hal Turner -- love
him or hate him -- posted the HOME ADDRESSES OF MOST PRO-AMNESTY U.S.
SENATORS. Doing this scared the Senators (not ONE of whom isn't a
multimillionaire, I believe) sh*tless.

The result? AMNESTY FAILED.

Basically, the traitors and would-be traitors must be brought to the
point where they must ponder what means more to them: their
prospective careers wielding power and making money in politics and
business by continuing to stab the American People in the back in de-
Americanized America OR what's REALLY most important to them.

I'm going to use an analogy, *not* to be taken literally (I don't
advocate illegality, only what the Founding Fathers such as George
Washington, Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson advised): Remember
the scene in The Godfather in which Michael Corleone recounts to his
fiancee that his father's friends convinced a stubborn bandleader
paying peanuts to do the right thing by offering the him the choice of
either having his signature or his brains on a profferred contract
that would release his father's protege from his then career-limiting
agreement?

Here are some other words of wisdom and guidance our Founding
Fathers left us. Hopefully they will begin to be read by more and more
Americans who'll really take them to heart.

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of
arms.

-- Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the
right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to
protect themselves against tyranny in government.

-- Thomas Jefferson

As our enemies have found we can reason like men,
so now let us show them we can fight like men also.

-- Thomas Jefferson

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on
certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.

-- Thomas Jefferson

The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of
any government, and to protect its free expression should
be our first object.

-- Thomas Jefferson

We in America do not have government by the majority.
We have government by the majority who participate.

-- Thomas Jefferson

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of
good conscience to remain silent.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Every government degenerates when trusted to the
rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are
its only safe depositories.

-- Thomas Jefferson

In matters of style, swim with the current; in
matters of principle, stand like a rock.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Don't talk about what you have done or what you are
going to do.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case
with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every
free state.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act!
Action will delineate and define you.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand
on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that
from which they draw their gains.

-- Thomas Jefferson

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our
monied corporations which dare already to challenge
our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance
to the laws of our country.

-- Thomas Jefferson

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous
to our liberties than standing armies.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Experience demands that man is the only animal which
devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to
the general prey of the rich on the poor.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms
of government those entrusted with power have, in time,
and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

-- Thomas Jefferson

If ye love wealth better than freedom, the tranquility of
servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from
us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands that feed you.
May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity
forget that ye were our countrymen.

-- Samuel Adams

25 October 2007

WE HAVE BEEN AMBUSHED!

VERY QUIETLY AND WITHOUT ANY MEDIA ATTENTION, THE U.S.
CONGRESS INTRODUCED THE "VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND
HOMEGROWN TERRORISM ACT" BACK IN APRIL

THE BILL WENT QUIETLY THROUGH COMMITTEE -
AND WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TODAY!

The Bill creates a Commission which will study how to prohibit ". . .
. .the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief
system . .
. . .to advance political, religious, or social change.. . . ."

Folks, they are trying to outlaw what people are able to BELIEVE.
Outlaw what opinions people are able to utter!

Ladies and Gentlemen, this Bill opens the first skirmish in what will
become a direct legislative assault upon our most basic right to
freedom of THOUGHT and the ability to speak those thoughts!

Under this type of Legislative thinking, George Washington, Thomas
Jefferson Alexander Hamilton and the other Founding Fathers, would be
jailed!!!!

Congress has just fired the first shot against what we can THINK! The
implications of this effort by government are terrifying. Just open
your mouth and say the wrong "radical" thing and POW: you're a
"homegrown terrorist." A "radical." Or perhaps a word we've all come
to know quite well, "militant." We hear about "militants" all the
time
these days. . . . "U.S. troops killed x number of Iraqi militants
today. . . . . ."

By passing this Bill, the federal government of the United States has
officially embarked upon tyranny. Absolute despotism.

It is time for us to muster our resources and engage in the most
fierce poltical battle imaginable. If we don't get together to fight
this thing right now; we will be left with no choice but to take up
arms or submit to absolute despotism in as little as 18 months!

Go here for the details of the billhttp://www.halturnershow.com/ViolentRadicalizationAndHomegrownTerrori...

.


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