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06 Jul 2004 08:03:38 PM |
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We hear strike on "safe house", the world hears massacre of a family. |
Who do you think they are going to believe after Bush/Cheney's lies got us
into Iraq?
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Fifteen Family Members Die in U.S. Bomb Raid
Tue 6 Jul 2004
Fifteen members of one Iraqi family died when US forces dropped two tons of
bombs on what they claimed was a militant safehouse in Fallujah.
The US military announced that three US marines assigned to the 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force were killed in western Iraq. Two died in action
yesterday in the Anbar province, while a third later died of his wounds
The Fallujah attack yesterday reduced the house to a 30-foot-deep pit of
sand and rubble.
It was the fifth air strike in the past two weeks in the area where the US
military says Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi's network has safehouses.
Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi issued an unprecedented statement saying
his government provided intelligence to the US military for the strike.
The interim government has been trying to work out how to deal with the
insurgents, and the air strike came just hours after it postponed an
announcement of new security laws to deal with them.
In Fallujah, 30 miles west of Baghdad, rescue workers picked up body parts
after the US air strike, witnesses said.
Dr Diaa Jumaili of Fallujah Hospital said 10 bodies had arrived there, most
of them dismembered.
The military said it had dropped four 500-pound bombs and two 1,000-pound
bombs. The attack used guided weapons and underscored the resolve of
coalition and Iraqi forces "to jointly destroy terrorist networks within
Iraq", the military said.
Al-Zarqawi, said to be connected to al-Qaida, is believed to be behind a
series of co-ordinated attacks on police and security forces that killed 100
people only days before US forces handed over power to an Iraqi interim
government.
The attacks have led to fears that religious fanatics and Saddam Hussein
loyalists may be joining forces to fight both the multi-national force and
the new Iraqi government.
Allawi has promised tough measures against the insurgents, who have been
creating chaos since the fall of Saddam's regime 14 months ago.
The announced cooperation with the air strike appeared to be a first step
toward that.
In a statement soon after the attack, Allawi said Iraqi forces provided the
intelligence for the location of the al-Zarqawi safehouse so the strike
could "terminate those terrorists, whose booby-trapped cars and explosive
belts have harvested the souls of innocent Iraqis without discrimination,
destroying Iraqi schools, hospitals and police stations".
Allawi appealed to all Iraqis to report the activities of insurgents.
An Iraqi militant group yesterday denied reports it had killed a US Marine
it was holding captive. In a statement sent to Al-Jazeera television, the
group calling itself "Islamic Response," said Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun, a
U.S. Marine of Lebanese heritage, was safe at a location it did not
identify.
On Saturday, a Web site posting claimed Hassoun had been beheaded. On
Sunday, a second Web posting on another Internet site disavowed that
message, leaving Hassoun's fate unclear.
Meanwhile, Iraq's vital oil exports were cut nearly in half as workers
struggled to repair a key pipeline shut down after looters broke into it.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3168593
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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 16, 1953
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07 Jul 2004 07:20:04 AM |
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"Benito Busholini" <benito@theovaloffice.rnc> wrote in
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Fifteen Family Members Die in U.S. Bomb Raid
You just love terrorists, apparently.
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| User: "Julian D." |
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06 Jul 2004 09:35:24 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:03:38 GMT, "Benito Busholini"
<benito@theovaloffice.rnc> wrote:
Who do you think they are going to believe after Bush/Cheney's lies got us
into Iraq?
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Fifteen Family Members Die in U.S. Bomb Raid
Tue 6 Jul 2004
Fifteen members of one Iraqi family died when US forces dropped two tons of
bombs on what they claimed was a militant safehouse in Fallujah.
The US military announced that three US marines assigned to the 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force were killed in western Iraq. Two died in action
yesterday in the Anbar province, while a third later died of his wounds
The Fallujah attack yesterday reduced the house to a 30-foot-deep pit of
sand and rubble.
It was the fifth air strike in the past two weeks in the area where the US
military says Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi's network has safehouses.
Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi issued an unprecedented statement saying
his government provided intelligence to the US military for the strike.
The interim government has been trying to work out how to deal with the
insurgents, and the air strike came just hours after it postponed an
announcement of new security laws to deal with them.
In Fallujah, 30 miles west of Baghdad, rescue workers picked up body parts
after the US air strike, witnesses said.
Dr Diaa Jumaili of Fallujah Hospital said 10 bodies had arrived there, most
of them dismembered.
The military said it had dropped four 500-pound bombs and two 1,000-pound
bombs. The attack used guided weapons and underscored the resolve of
coalition and Iraqi forces "to jointly destroy terrorist networks within
Iraq", the military said.
Al-Zarqawi, said to be connected to al-Qaida, is believed to be behind a
series of co-ordinated attacks on police and security forces that killed 100
people only days before US forces handed over power to an Iraqi interim
government.
The attacks have led to fears that religious fanatics and Saddam Hussein
loyalists may be joining forces to fight both the multi-national force and
the new Iraqi government.
Allawi has promised tough measures against the insurgents, who have been
creating chaos since the fall of Saddam's regime 14 months ago.
The announced cooperation with the air strike appeared to be a first step
toward that.
In a statement soon after the attack, Allawi said Iraqi forces provided the
intelligence for the location of the al-Zarqawi safehouse so the strike
could "terminate those terrorists, whose booby-trapped cars and explosive
belts have harvested the souls of innocent Iraqis without discrimination,
destroying Iraqi schools, hospitals and police stations".
Allawi appealed to all Iraqis to report the activities of insurgents.
An Iraqi militant group yesterday denied reports it had killed a US Marine
it was holding captive. In a statement sent to Al-Jazeera television, the
group calling itself "Islamic Response," said Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun, a
U.S. Marine of Lebanese heritage, was safe at a location it did not
identify.
On Saturday, a Web site posting claimed Hassoun had been beheaded. On
Sunday, a second Web posting on another Internet site disavowed that
message, leaving Hassoun's fate unclear.
Meanwhile, Iraq's vital oil exports were cut nearly in half as workers
struggled to repair a key pipeline shut down after looters broke into it.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3168593
We should fight this war as we did in WW2. Go all out and actually
win it with no consideration of how the press reports it. Completely
flatten Fallujah. Make a statement. Tell the rest of Iraq that this
is what will happen if they harbor 'insurgents' or terrorists.
JD
The closer we get to the election, the more sedition, treason,
and death threats against the president we'll see from
the Left. Especially as they realize Bush will more than likely
win.
-Me
"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have
helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COMMON GOOD."
-Senator Hillary Clinton, Soviet Admirer
http://tinyurl.com/2n6lr
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/06/28/politics2039EDT0165.DTL&type=printable
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
-Karl Marx
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.
"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological
and chemical material unaccounted for . . . it is incontestable that
on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks . . . "
-Bill Clinton
Larry King Live
July 22, 2003
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| User: "Robert" |
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06 Jul 2004 10:54:12 PM |
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"Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com> wrote in message
news:88ome0l9g1t8nhdiv7pd20jbmqm89i0cv2@4ax.com...
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:03:38 GMT, "Benito Busholini"
<benito@theovaloffice.rnc> wrote:
Who do you think they are going to believe after Bush/Cheney's lies got
us
into Iraq?
--------------------------------------------
Fifteen Family Members Die in U.S. Bomb Raid
Tue 6 Jul 2004
Fifteen members of one Iraqi family died when US forces dropped two tons
of
bombs on what they claimed was a militant safehouse in Fallujah.
The US military announced that three US marines assigned to the 1st
Marine
Expeditionary Force were killed in western Iraq. Two died in action
yesterday in the Anbar province, while a third later died of his wounds
The Fallujah attack yesterday reduced the house to a 30-foot-deep pit of
sand and rubble.
It was the fifth air strike in the past two weeks in the area where the
US
military says Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi's network has
safehouses.
Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi issued an unprecedented statement saying
his government provided intelligence to the US military for the strike.
The interim government has been trying to work out how to deal with the
insurgents, and the air strike came just hours after it postponed an
announcement of new security laws to deal with them.
In Fallujah, 30 miles west of Baghdad, rescue workers picked up body
parts
after the US air strike, witnesses said.
Dr Diaa Jumaili of Fallujah Hospital said 10 bodies had arrived there,
most
of them dismembered.
The military said it had dropped four 500-pound bombs and two 1,000-pound
bombs. The attack used guided weapons and underscored the resolve of
coalition and Iraqi forces "to jointly destroy terrorist networks within
Iraq", the military said.
Al-Zarqawi, said to be connected to al-Qaida, is believed to be behind a
series of co-ordinated attacks on police and security forces that killed
100
people only days before US forces handed over power to an Iraqi interim
government.
The attacks have led to fears that religious fanatics and Saddam Hussein
loyalists may be joining forces to fight both the multi-national force
and
the new Iraqi government.
Allawi has promised tough measures against the insurgents, who have been
creating chaos since the fall of Saddam's regime 14 months ago.
The announced cooperation with the air strike appeared to be a first step
toward that.
In a statement soon after the attack, Allawi said Iraqi forces provided
the
intelligence for the location of the al-Zarqawi safehouse so the strike
could "terminate those terrorists, whose booby-trapped cars and explosive
belts have harvested the souls of innocent Iraqis without discrimination,
destroying Iraqi schools, hospitals and police stations".
Allawi appealed to all Iraqis to report the activities of insurgents.
An Iraqi militant group yesterday denied reports it had killed a US
Marine
it was holding captive. In a statement sent to Al-Jazeera television, the
group calling itself "Islamic Response," said Corporal Wassef Ali
Hassoun, a
U.S. Marine of Lebanese heritage, was safe at a location it did not
identify.
On Saturday, a Web site posting claimed Hassoun had been beheaded. On
Sunday, a second Web posting on another Internet site disavowed that
message, leaving Hassoun's fate unclear.
Meanwhile, Iraq's vital oil exports were cut nearly in half as workers
struggled to repair a key pipeline shut down after looters broke into it.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3168593
We should fight this war as we did in WW2. Go all out and actually
win it with no consideration of how the press reports it. Completely
flatten Fallujah. Make a statement. Tell the rest of Iraq that this
is what will happen if they harbor 'insurgents' or terrorists.
JD
That should win the hearts and minds
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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07 Jul 2004 07:46:21 AM |
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Robert wrote:
"Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com> wrote in message
news:88ome0l9g1t8nhdiv7pd20jbmqm89i0cv2@4ax.com...
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We should fight this war as we did in WW2. Go all out and actually
win it with no consideration of how the press reports it. Completely
flatten Fallujah. Make a statement. Tell the rest of Iraq that this
is what will happen if they harbor 'insurgents' or terrorists.
JD
That should win the hearts and minds
I expect the Siites will not be worried aout that onece the Sunnis reach
a certain killing rate or visa versa. It will be ineresting to see how
the Common Good will be decided for Iraqis and by Iraqis. But I suspect
it wount be pretty.
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| User: "Sogobia" |
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06 Jul 2004 09:37:03 PM |
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"Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com> wrote in message
news:88ome0l9g1t8nhdiv7pd20jbmqm89i0cv2@4ax.com...
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:03:38 GMT, "Benito Busholini"
<benito@theovaloffice.rnc> wrote:
Who do you think they are going to believe after Bush/Cheney's lies got
us
into Iraq?
--------------------------------------------
Fifteen Family Members Die in U.S. Bomb Raid
Tue 6 Jul 2004
Fifteen members of one Iraqi family died when US forces dropped two tons
of
bombs on what they claimed was a militant safehouse in Fallujah.
The US military announced that three US marines assigned to the 1st
Marine
Expeditionary Force were killed in western Iraq. Two died in action
yesterday in the Anbar province, while a third later died of his wounds
The Fallujah attack yesterday reduced the house to a 30-foot-deep pit of
sand and rubble.
It was the fifth air strike in the past two weeks in the area where the
US
military says Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi's network has
safehouses.
Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi issued an unprecedented statement saying
his government provided intelligence to the US military for the strike.
The interim government has been trying to work out how to deal with the
insurgents, and the air strike came just hours after it postponed an
announcement of new security laws to deal with them.
In Fallujah, 30 miles west of Baghdad, rescue workers picked up body
parts
after the US air strike, witnesses said.
Dr Diaa Jumaili of Fallujah Hospital said 10 bodies had arrived there,
most
of them dismembered.
The military said it had dropped four 500-pound bombs and two 1,000-pound
bombs. The attack used guided weapons and underscored the resolve of
coalition and Iraqi forces "to jointly destroy terrorist networks within
Iraq", the military said.
Al-Zarqawi, said to be connected to al-Qaida, is believed to be behind a
series of co-ordinated attacks on police and security forces that killed
100
people only days before US forces handed over power to an Iraqi interim
government.
The attacks have led to fears that religious fanatics and Saddam Hussein
loyalists may be joining forces to fight both the multi-national force
and
the new Iraqi government.
Allawi has promised tough measures against the insurgents, who have been
creating chaos since the fall of Saddam's regime 14 months ago.
The announced cooperation with the air strike appeared to be a first step
toward that.
In a statement soon after the attack, Allawi said Iraqi forces provided
the
intelligence for the location of the al-Zarqawi safehouse so the strike
could "terminate those terrorists, whose booby-trapped cars and explosive
belts have harvested the souls of innocent Iraqis without discrimination,
destroying Iraqi schools, hospitals and police stations".
Allawi appealed to all Iraqis to report the activities of insurgents.
An Iraqi militant group yesterday denied reports it had killed a US
Marine
it was holding captive. In a statement sent to Al-Jazeera television, the
group calling itself "Islamic Response," said Corporal Wassef Ali
Hassoun, a
U.S. Marine of Lebanese heritage, was safe at a location it did not
identify.
On Saturday, a Web site posting claimed Hassoun had been beheaded. On
Sunday, a second Web posting on another Internet site disavowed that
message, leaving Hassoun's fate unclear.
Meanwhile, Iraq's vital oil exports were cut nearly in half as workers
struggled to repair a key pipeline shut down after looters broke into it.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3168593
We should fight this war as we did in WW2. Go all out and actually
win it with no consideration of how the press reports it. Completely
flatten Fallujah. Make a statement. Tell the rest of Iraq that this
is what will happen if they harbor 'insurgents' or terrorists.
Why should we even be in Iraq? Bush and Cheney lied to get us there and now
we should flatten it?
Apparently you've been surfing the NatVan website too much. I can just
imagine how much support we would get from our allies if we started
massacring Fallujah citizens for the sin of living there.
--
"That they deceived us about the weapons of mass destruction, that's true.
We were taken for a ride," Kwasniewski said Thursday (March 18, 2004).
Aleksander Kwasniewski, Poland's President
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Sibel Edmonds, a former translator for the FBI with top-secret security
clearance says she spent three hours giving testimony to the panel
investigating the attacks, and told Britain's Independent Friday information
was circulating within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 an attack
using aircraft was months away and the terrorists were in place.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040402-064359-3845r.htm
JD
The closer we get to the election, the more sedition, treason,
and death threats against the president we'll see from
the Left. Especially as they realize Bush will more than likely
win.
-Me
"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have
helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COMMON GOOD."
-Senator Hillary Clinton, Soviet Admirer
http://tinyurl.com/2n6lr
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/06/28/politics2039EDT0165.DTL&type=printable
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
-Karl Marx
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more
violence.
If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.
"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological
and chemical material unaccounted for . . . it is incontestable that
on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks . . . "
-Bill Clinton
Larry King Live
July 22, 2003
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06 Jul 2004 10:29:51 PM |
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"The Fallujah attack yesterday reduced the house to a 30-foot-deep pit of
sand and rubble..."
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An ideal site for a memorial pond for the little pond critters that never
get a break in Iraq
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| User: "Robert" |
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06 Jul 2004 10:53:31 PM |
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You know how this can happen.
Someone gives the US "trusted" intelligence.
Against their enemies.
Drug dealers in this country do it all the time.
"Benito Busholini" <benito@theovaloffice.rnc> wrote in message
news:1c4ce1d60d311361f728267e9a22eb3e@news.teranews.com...
Who do you think they are going to believe after Bush/Cheney's lies got us
into Iraq?
--------------------------------------------
Fifteen Family Members Die in U.S. Bomb Raid
Tue 6 Jul 2004
Fifteen members of one Iraqi family died when US forces dropped two tons
of
bombs on what they claimed was a militant safehouse in Fallujah.
The US military announced that three US marines assigned to the 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force were killed in western Iraq. Two died in action
yesterday in the Anbar province, while a third later died of his wounds
The Fallujah attack yesterday reduced the house to a 30-foot-deep pit of
sand and rubble.
It was the fifth air strike in the past two weeks in the area where the US
military says Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi's network has
safehouses.
Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi issued an unprecedented statement saying
his government provided intelligence to the US military for the strike.
The interim government has been trying to work out how to deal with the
insurgents, and the air strike came just hours after it postponed an
announcement of new security laws to deal with them.
In Fallujah, 30 miles west of Baghdad, rescue workers picked up body parts
after the US air strike, witnesses said.
Dr Diaa Jumaili of Fallujah Hospital said 10 bodies had arrived there,
most
of them dismembered.
The military said it had dropped four 500-pound bombs and two 1,000-pound
bombs. The attack used guided weapons and underscored the resolve of
coalition and Iraqi forces "to jointly destroy terrorist networks within
Iraq", the military said.
Al-Zarqawi, said to be connected to al-Qaida, is believed to be behind a
series of co-ordinated attacks on police and security forces that killed
100
people only days before US forces handed over power to an Iraqi interim
government.
The attacks have led to fears that religious fanatics and Saddam Hussein
loyalists may be joining forces to fight both the multi-national force and
the new Iraqi government.
Allawi has promised tough measures against the insurgents, who have been
creating chaos since the fall of Saddam's regime 14 months ago.
The announced cooperation with the air strike appeared to be a first step
toward that.
In a statement soon after the attack, Allawi said Iraqi forces provided
the
intelligence for the location of the al-Zarqawi safehouse so the strike
could "terminate those terrorists, whose booby-trapped cars and explosive
belts have harvested the souls of innocent Iraqis without discrimination,
destroying Iraqi schools, hospitals and police stations".
Allawi appealed to all Iraqis to report the activities of insurgents.
An Iraqi militant group yesterday denied reports it had killed a US Marine
it was holding captive. In a statement sent to Al-Jazeera television, the
group calling itself "Islamic Response," said Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun,
a
U.S. Marine of Lebanese heritage, was safe at a location it did not
identify.
On Saturday, a Web site posting claimed Hassoun had been beheaded. On
Sunday, a second Web posting on another Internet site disavowed that
message, leaving Hassoun's fate unclear.
Meanwhile, Iraq's vital oil exports were cut nearly in half as workers
struggled to repair a key pipeline shut down after looters broke into it.
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3168593
--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 16, 1953
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