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We knew it would be knives next |
Knives kill!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article344223.ece
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Clarke launches amnesty on knives to reduce stabbings
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
09 February 2006
A five-week nationwide knives amnesty is being launched in the
summer in an attempt to drive down numbers of stabbings.
More than 230 people were stabbed to death last year and concern
over levels of knife crime have been highlighted by the killing
of City lawyer Tom ap Rhys Pryce last month.
Under the amnesty, which will run between 24 May and 30 June in
England, Wales and Scotland, members of the public can leave
bladed weapons in drop-in bins which will be provided at police
stations throughout the country without fear of prosecution.
Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, said: "Tackling knife
culture, especially among young people, is paramount to the
safety of our communities, and I am determined to reduce the
devastation caused by knife crime."
He added: "Carrying knives on the streets will not be tolerated.
Every weapon handed in during the amnesty will be a weapon that
cannot be used in crime."
The amnesty coincides with measures in the Violent Crime Bill,
which is currently passing through Parliament, which raises the
minimum age for buying a knife from 16 to 18. It also gives
headteachers the power to search pupils for weapons.
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Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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| User: "Harry The Horse" |
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11 Feb 2006 04:42:36 AM |
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Ms Liberty wrote:
Knives kill!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article344223.ece
Home
Clarke launches amnesty on knives to reduce stabbings
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
09 February 2006
A five-week nationwide knives amnesty is being launched in the
summer in an attempt to drive down numbers of stabbings.
Since the possession of knives in the UK is not illegal one wonders why
there has to be an 'amnesty'.
More than 230 people were stabbed to death last year and concern
over levels of knife crime have been highlighted by the killing
of City lawyer Tom ap Rhys Pryce last month.
Under the amnesty, which will run between 24 May and 30 June in
England, Wales and Scotland, members of the public can leave
bladed weapons in drop-in bins which will be provided at police
stations throughout the country without fear of prosecution.
Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, said: "Tackling knife
culture, especially among young people, is paramount to the
safety of our communities, and I am determined to reduce the
devastation caused by knife crime."
He added: "Carrying knives on the streets will not be tolerated.
Every weapon handed in during the amnesty will be a weapon that
cannot be used in crime."
Or be used to carve a joint of beef in the kitchen. No doubt that will give
the extreme vegetarians in the Labour party something to cheer about.
The amnesty coincides with measures in the Violent Crime Bill,
which is currently passing through Parliament, which raises the
minimum age for buying a knife from 16 to 18. It also gives
headteachers the power to search pupils for weapons.
And the same government that urges the teacher to search his pupils will be
happy to enter his name on the SOR if one of his searchees says that he
touched 'inappropriately'. Who particularly is going to put their career in
the line in this respect?
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11 Feb 2006 09:45:53 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:42:36 -0000, "Harry The Horse"
<HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ms Liberty wrote:
Knives kill!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article344223.ece
Home
Clarke launches amnesty on knives to reduce stabbings
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
09 February 2006
A five-week nationwide knives amnesty is being launched in the
summer in an attempt to drive down numbers of stabbings.
Since the possession of knives in the UK is not illegal one wonders why
there has to be an 'amnesty'.
"Possession" (in public, at least) certainly is illegal:
"- The Criminal Justice Act (CJA) 1988 created an offence of having an
article with a blade or point in a public place without good reason or
lawful excuse. An exemption applies to folding pocket knives with a
blade of less than three inches. Maximum penalty: up to two years
imprisonment."
http://press.homeoffice.gov.uk/press-releases/govt-announces-knife-amnesty
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| User: "Harry The Horse" |
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11 Feb 2006 04:06:42 PM |
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DonS wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:42:36 -0000, "Harry The Horse"
<HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ms Liberty wrote:
Knives kill!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article344223.ece
Home
Clarke launches amnesty on knives to reduce stabbings
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
09 February 2006
A five-week nationwide knives amnesty is being launched in the
summer in an attempt to drive down numbers of stabbings.
Since the possession of knives in the UK is not illegal one wonders
why there has to be an 'amnesty'.
"Possession" (in public, at least) certainly is illegal:
"- The Criminal Justice Act (CJA) 1988 created an offence of having an
article with a blade or point in a public place without good reason or
lawful excuse. An exemption applies to folding pocket knives with a
blade of less than three inches. Maximum penalty: up to two years
imprisonment."
The possession of a ball pein hammer in a public place is an offence unless
good reason or lawful excuse can be shown for its possession, yet no one is
arguing that hammers be subject to an amnesty.
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| User: "Ms Liberty" |
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11 Feb 2006 09:24:30 PM |
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"Harry The Horse" <HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote :
DonS wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:42:36 -0000, "Harry The Horse"
<HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ms Liberty wrote:
Knives kill!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article344223.ece
Home
Clarke launches amnesty on knives to reduce stabbings
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
09 February 2006
A five-week nationwide knives amnesty is being launched in
the summer in an attempt to drive down numbers of
stabbings.
Since the possession of knives in the UK is not illegal one
wonders why there has to be an 'amnesty'.
"Possession" (in public, at least) certainly is illegal:
"- The Criminal Justice Act (CJA) 1988 created an offence of
having an article with a blade or point in a public place
without good reason or lawful excuse. An exemption applies to
folding pocket knives with a blade of less than three inches.
Maximum penalty: up to two years imprisonment."
The possession of a ball pein hammer in a public place is an
offence unless good reason or lawful excuse can be shown for
its possession, yet no one is arguing that hammers be subject
to an amnesty.
It sounded like that stupid law was concerning illegal knives to
begin with, for example switchblades?
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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| User: "Harry The Horse" |
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12 Feb 2006 02:13:43 PM |
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Ms Liberty wrote:
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
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| User: "BTMO" |
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12 Feb 2006 03:07:14 PM |
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"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of Victoria - unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
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| User: "William Black" |
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12 Feb 2006 04:58:24 PM |
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"BTMO" <btmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of Victoria - unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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12 Feb 2006 05:52:05 PM |
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"William Black" <> wrote
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of Victoria -
unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
They comply with the law, summarised here:
http://www.police.vic.gov.au/retrievemedia.asp?Media_ID=2799
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| User: "Mark Bedingfield" |
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12 Feb 2006 05:11:11 PM |
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William Black wrote:
"BTMO" <btmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_UOHf.144432$vH5.1191860@news.xtra.co.nz...
"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of Victoria - unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
They need to be reigistered and are required to store their deadly
weapons in lockers etc. Same as guns AFAIK. This only applies in
Victoria, not the rest of Australia. Tho, IIRC NSW was looking at doing
it too.
Mark
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| User: "William Black" |
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12 Feb 2006 05:49:46 PM |
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"Mark Bedingfield" <mark@nomorespamplease.computercom.com.au> wrote in
message news:jgPHf.6475$yK1.4892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
William Black wrote:
"BTMO" <btmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_UOHf.144432$vH5.1191860@news.xtra.co.nz...
"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of Victoria -
unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
They need to be reigistered and are required to store their deadly
weapons in lockers etc. Same as guns AFAIK. This only applies in
Victoria, not the rest of Australia. Tho, IIRC NSW was looking at doing
it too.
Right.
So we've established that they don't actually need to be 'bona fide
collectors'.
Obviously they need have a reasonable use for a sword.
I wonder how they define them...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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12 Feb 2006 07:02:51 PM |
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"William Black" <> wrote
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
They need to be reigistered and are required to store their deadly
weapons in lockers etc. Same as guns AFAIK. This only applies in
Victoria, not the rest of Australia. Tho, IIRC NSW was looking at doing
it too.
Right.
So we've established that they don't actually need to be 'bona fide
collectors'.
Well, actually, you might like to have a look at what it says at this
Victorian government website:
http://www.legalonline.vic.gov.au/CA2569020010C266/All/40F2CE099544B3EFCA2570FC007DADE8?OpenDocument&1=Crime~&2=Weapons~&3=Control+of+weapons~
Sorry for the long URL.
The important bit is:
"How do I get an exemption for a Prescribed Weapon?
If you have a genuine need for a Prescribed Weapon (such as, if you are bona
fide collector or a member of a knife-makers guild) you should contact the
Legal Services, Regulatory Services Branch, Victoria Police to obtain a
form."
Obviously they need have a reasonable use for a sword.
Why? What is wrong with "it hangs on my wall, has done so for the last 50
years, and is no more dangerous than the portrait of my mother in law
hanging next to it"?
I wonder how they define them...
You could do some research and find out....
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| User: "William Black" |
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13 Feb 2006 02:27:39 AM |
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"BTMO" <btmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FZQHf.144459$vH5.1193699@news.xtra.co.nz...
"William Black" <> wrote
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
They need to be reigistered and are required to store their deadly
weapons in lockers etc. Same as guns AFAIK. This only applies in
Victoria, not the rest of Australia. Tho, IIRC NSW was looking at doing
it too.
Right.
So we've established that they don't actually need to be 'bona fide
collectors'.
Well, actually, you might like to have a look at what it says at this
Victorian government website:
http://www.legalonline.vic.gov.au/CA2569020010C266/All/40F2CE099544B3EFCA2570FC007DADE8?OpenDocument&1=Crime~&2=Weapons~&3=Control+of+weapons~
Sorry for the long URL.
The important bit is:
"How do I get an exemption for a Prescribed Weapon?
If you have a genuine need for a Prescribed Weapon (such as, if you are
bona
fide collector or a member of a knife-makers guild) you should contact the
Legal Services, Regulatory Services Branch, Victoria Police to obtain a
form."
Obviously they need have a reasonable use for a sword.
Why? What is wrong with "it hangs on my wall, has done so for the last 50
years, and is no more dangerous than the portrait of my mother in law
hanging next to it"?
I wonder how they define them...
You could do some research and find out....
Why should I?
The original post is obviously rubbish.
I notice from the legislation that a sword is defined as 'a striking,
thrusting or stabbing weapon with a long blade'.
That's so vague as to be useless.
Does it include sports equipment for fencers?
Does it include wooden practice weapons?
A saw meets that definition, as do any number of domestic items.
It's just daft and obviously not enforceable.
Which is the reason the law in the UK wasn't changed in this way.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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13 Feb 2006 02:36:20 AM |
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"William Black" <> wrote
Well, actually, you might like to have a look at what it says at this
Victorian government website:
http://www.legalonline.vic.gov.au/CA2569020010C266/All/40F2CE099544B3EFCA2570FC007DADE8?OpenDocument&1=Crime~&2=Weapons~&3=Control+of+weapons~
Sorry for the long URL.
The important bit is:
"How do I get an exemption for a Prescribed Weapon?
If you have a genuine need for a Prescribed Weapon (such as, if you are
bona
fide collector or a member of a knife-makers guild) you should contact
the
Legal Services, Regulatory Services Branch, Victoria Police to obtain a
form."
Obviously they need have a reasonable use for a sword.
Why? What is wrong with "it hangs on my wall, has done so for the last 50
years, and is no more dangerous than the portrait of my mother in law
hanging next to it"?
I wonder how they define them...
You could do some research and find out....
Why should I?
The original post is obviously rubbish.
I notice from the legislation that a sword is defined as 'a striking,
thrusting or stabbing weapon with a long blade'.
That's so vague as to be useless.
No, it allows the police to decide what a sword is on the day.
Does it include sports equipment for fencers?
I believe so.
Does it include wooden practice weapons?
Probably.
A saw meets that definition, as do any number of domestic items.
Yep.
It's just daft and obviously not enforceable.
And yet, it **IS** enforceable. Its very vagueness allows that.
Which is the reason the law in the UK wasn't changed in this way.
You have finally written something I agree with. However, don't be so sure
that UK law won't change. All it needs is a proper sense of righteous
indignation and the sword banners are away...
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12 Feb 2006 07:27:42 PM |
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote :
"Mark Bedingfield" <mark@nomorespamplease.computercom.com.au>
wrote in message
news:jgPHf.6475$yK1.4892@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
William Black wrote:
"BTMO" <btmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_UOHf.144432$vH5.1191860@news.xtra.co.nz...
"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of
Victoria -
unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and
registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
So how do the groups below manage?
http://www.oeac.org.au/
http://www.geocities.com/indunna/hodegon.html
They need to be reigistered and are required to store their
deadly weapons in lockers etc. Same as guns AFAIK. This only
applies in Victoria, not the rest of Australia. Tho, IIRC NSW
was looking at doing it too.
Right.
So we've established that they don't actually need to be 'bona
fide collectors'.
Obviously they need have a reasonable use for a sword.
I wonder how they define them...
Arbitrarily, as with most stupid laws that violate human rights.
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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12 Feb 2006 05:04:13 PM |
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BTMO wrote:
"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of Victoria - unless
you are a bona fide collector, and have it licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
The irony of which is that I have several mates who own said wall
hangers. NONE of which new about the prohibition on their heirlooms,
until I told them. NONE of which intend to take them down, either. Not
because they are being openly defiant, but because they simply don't
give a *****. I am amazed at the amount of peoples houses that have a
Katana, Kukri or Bayonette on their walls, and even more amazed that no
one has cared to mention the ban on their inanimate objects (Police
etc). Also amusing since Australia has just managed 21 murders in 36 days.
Mark
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12 Feb 2006 05:43:10 PM |
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Mark Bedingfield <mark@nomorespamplease.computercom.com.au>
wrote :
BTMO wrote:
"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of
Victoria - unless you are a bona fide collector, and have it
licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
The irony of which is that I have several mates who own said
wall hangers. NONE of which new about the prohibition on their
heirlooms, until I told them. NONE of which intend to take
them down, either. Not because they are being openly defiant,
but because they simply don't give a *****. I am amazed at the
amount of peoples houses that have a Katana, Kukri or
Bayonette on their walls, and even more amazed that no one has
cared to mention the ban on their inanimate objects (Police
etc). Also amusing since Australia has just managed 21 murders
in 36 days.
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?", said Dr.
Ferris.
We WANT them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's
not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against.... We're after power
and we mean it .... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only
power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren't enough criminals one MAKES them. One
declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible
for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law
abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass
the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or
objectively interpreted--and you create a nation of law-
breakers-- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system
Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll
be much easier to deal with." --Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged"
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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12 Feb 2006 05:51:41 PM |
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Ms Liberty wrote:
Mark Bedingfield <mark@nomorespamplease.computercom.com.au>
wrote :
BTMO wrote:
"Harry The Horse" <> wrote
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
They aren't legal to even own in the Australian state of
Victoria - unless you are a bona fide collector, and have it
licenced and registered.
This includes "wall hangers"...
The irony of which is that I have several mates who own said
wall hangers. NONE of which new about the prohibition on their
heirlooms, until I told them. NONE of which intend to take
them down, either. Not because they are being openly defiant,
but because they simply don't give a *****. I am amazed at the
amount of peoples houses that have a Katana, Kukri or
Bayonette on their walls, and even more amazed that no one has
cared to mention the ban on their inanimate objects (Police
etc). Also amusing since Australia has just managed 21 murders
in 36 days.
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?", said Dr.
Ferris.
We WANT them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's
not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against.... We're after power
and we mean it .... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only
power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren't enough criminals one MAKES them. One
declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible
for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law
abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass
the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or
objectively interpreted--and you create a nation of law-
breakers-- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system
Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll
be much easier to deal with." --Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged"
Touche.
Mark
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12 Feb 2006 02:48:01 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:13:43 -0000, "Harry The Horse"
<HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ms Liberty wrote:
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
Perhaps to own, but not to possess in public. A sword would likely
count as an "article which has a blade", as described in section 139
of the Criminal Justice Act of 1988, if that law is still in force.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880033_en_12.htm#mdiv139
Of course, if you can prove that you're carrying it for religious
reasons, as part of a national costume, or for your work, or that you
have good reason or lawful authority for having the sword with you,
you're probably OK.
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12 Feb 2006 02:53:28 PM |
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"DonS" <don@starr.com> wrote in message
news:k77vu1163edqh790lmo75o0lf5c001ofj6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:13:43 -0000, "Harry The Horse"
<HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ms Liberty wrote:
And to think, swords used to be legal there. How sad.
Swords still are legal in the UK.
Perhaps to own, but not to possess in public. A sword would likely
count as an "article which has a blade", as described in section 139
of the Criminal Justice Act of 1988, if that law is still in force.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880033_en_12.htm#mdiv139
Of course, if you can prove that you're carrying it for religious
reasons, as part of a national costume, or for your work, or that you
have good reason or lawful authority for having the sword with you,
you're probably OK.
I've never had problems carrying a sword in public...
And yes, I've done it loads of times.
But I have a good reason...
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: We knew it would be knives next |
09 Feb 2006 10:13:27 PM |
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Ms Liberty wrote:
Knives kill!
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article344223.ece
Home
Clarke launches amnesty on knives to reduce stabbings
By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent
09 February 2006
Nerf bats are next.
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| User: "Ms Liberty" |
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| Title: Re: We knew it would be knives next |
09 Feb 2006 10:07:00 PM |
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Of course now, the Canadians will no doubt launch a trillion dollar
knife registration program. :)
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice with
them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't forget
and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and practice
regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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| User: "kt" |
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| Title: Re: We knew it would be knives next |
11 Feb 2006 03:44:32 PM |
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"Ms Liberty" <Ms-Liberty@freedom.xyz> wrote in message
news:_ZqdnfqexJT5jHHenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@forethought.net...
Of course now, the Canadians will no doubt launch a trillion dollar
knife registration program. :)
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. - Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice with
them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't forget
and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and practice
regularly. After all, you are the militia.
How true, and owners also have the moral obligation to store firearms safely
when they don't have control of the firearm.
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| User: "Ms Liberty" |
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| Title: Re: We knew it would be knives next |
11 Feb 2006 09:23:20 PM |
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"kt" <kt@nospam.com.au> wrote :
"Ms Liberty" <Ms-Liberty@freedom.xyz> wrote in message
news:_ZqdnfqexJT5jHHenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@forethought.net...
Of course now, the Canadians will no doubt launch a trillion
dollar knife registration program. :)
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. - Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will
bestow protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you
own one, you have a moral obligation to yourself to learn
safety, get training and learn how to use it, then stay in
practice so you don't forget and get rusty. Take as much
training as you can afford and practice regularly. After all,
you are the militia.
How true, and owners also have the moral obligation to store
firearms safely when they don't have control of the firearm.
Why? I'd think other people had the moral obligation not to touch
things that don't belong to them.
--
Ms Liberty - United States of America
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. – Thomas
Jefferson, part of proposed Virginia Constitution 1776.
50% of U.S. households own a gun but few people ever practice
with them. Your gun is not a lucky rabbit's foot that will bestow
protection on you, just by keeping it around. If you own one, you
have a moral obligation to yourself to learn safety, get training
and learn how to use it, then stay in practice so you don't
forget and get rusty. Take as much training as you can afford and
practice regularly. After all, you are the militia.
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