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Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
The Weather Channel’s (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global
warming program "The Climate Code," is advocating that the American
Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their "Seal of Approval" for any
television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is
creating a climate catastrophe.
"If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate
change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval.
Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on
cyclical weather patterns," Cullen wrote in her December 21 weblog on
the Weather Channel Website. [Note: It is also worth taking a look at
the comments section at the bottom of Cullen’s blog, very
entertaining.] See: http://climate.weather.com/blog/9_11396.html This
latest call to silence skeptics of manmade global warming has been the
subject of discussion at the annual American Meteorological Society’s
Annual conference in San Antonio Texas this week. See:
http://www.ametsoc.org/meet/annual
"It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that
hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather.
It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement,"
Cullen added. [Note to Cullen: As the resident ‘climate expert’ at
TWS, you should know that Hurricanes in the Southern Hemisphere do
rotate clockwise. Also, Cullen and the media have ignored the growing
climate skepticism by prominent scientists see:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD
Cullen’s call for decertification of TV weatherman who do not agree
with her global warming assessment follows a year (2006) in which the
media, Hollywood and environmentalists tried their hardest to demonize
scientific skeptics of manmade global warming. Scott Pelley, CBS News
60 Minutes correspondent, compared skeptics of global warming to
"Holocaust deniers" and former Vice President turned foreign lobbyist
Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as "global warming
deniers." See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=A4017645-DE27-43D7-8C37-8FF923FD73F8
&
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD
Cullen Featured Advocate of Nuremberg-Style Trials for Climate
Skeptics
In addition, Cullen’s December 17, 2006 episode of "The Climate Code"
TV show, featured a columnist who openly called for Nuremberg-style
Trials for climate skeptics. Cullen featured Grist Magazine’s Dave
Roberts as an eco-expert opining on energy issues, with no mention of
his public call to institute what amounts to the death penalty for
scientists who express skepticism about global warming. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568
Cullen’s call for suppressing scientific dissent comes at a time when
many skeptical scientists affiliated with Universities have
essentially been silenced over fears of loss of tenure and the
withdrawal of research grant money. The United Nations Inner
Governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) process has also steadily
pushed scientists away who hold inconvenient skeptical views and
reject the alarmist conclusions presented in the IPCC’s summary for
policymakers. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=21CC88EC-CCA6-4A61-8C2E-78FA8DE4850D
Cullen also participated in the New York premiere of the fictional
Hollywood global warming disaster film The Day After Tomorrow in 2004
and has routinely promoted celebrity environmental views. See:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=%5CSpecialReports%5Carchive%5C200504%5CSPE20050414a.html
& http://press.weather.com/index.php/press_releases/109.html The
Weather Channel, which has billed itself as itself as the "pre-eminent
provider of weather information," also served as a consultant to The
Day After Tomorrow and allowed the use of its name and logo in the
movie.
Broadcast meteorologists (TV weatherman) skeptical of climate alarmism
have -- up until now -- been unburdened to speak out on climate
issues. Cullen’s call for decertification by the AMS can only serve to
intimidate skeptics and further chill free speech in the scientific
community. Stripping the "Seal of Approval" from broadcast
meteorologists could affect their livelihoods, impact their salaries
and prestige. TV weathermen are truly the last of the independent
scientists and past surveys have shown many of them to be skeptical of
manmade global warming claims. Their independence is being threatened
now. For more info on the background of the AMS seal, see:
http://www.ametsoc.org/amscert
Intimidating scientists with calls for death trials, name calling and
calls for decertification appears to be the accepted tactics of the
climate alarmists. The real question is: Why do climate alarmists feel
the need to resort to such low brow tactics when they have a compliant
media willing to repeat their every assertion without question. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=3EE352B0-5D2E-4CC0-BD6B-304E3F6E0E2D
The alarmists also enjoy a huge financial advantage over the skeptics
with numerous foundations funding climate research, University
research money and the United Nations endless promotion of the cause.
Just how much money do the climate alarmists have at their disposal?
There was a $3 billion donation to the global warming cause from
Virgin Air’s Richard Branson alone. The well-heeled environmental
lobbying groups have massive operating budgets compared to groups that
express global warming skepticism. The Sierra Club Foundation 2004
budget was $91 million and the Natural Resources Defense Council had a
$57 million budget for the same year. Compare that to the often media
derided Competitive Enterprise Institute’s small $3.6 million annual
budget.
In addition, if a climate skeptic receives any money from industry,
the media immediately labels them and attempts to discredit their
work. The same media completely ignore the money flow from the
environmental lobby to climate alarmists like James Hansen and Michael
Oppenheimer. (ie. Hansen received $250,000 from the Heinz Foundation
and Oppenheimer is a paid partisan of Environmental Defense Fund)
The alarmists have all of these advantages, yet they still feel the
need to resort to desperation tactics to silence the skeptics. Could
it be that the alarmists realize that the American public is
increasingly rejecting their proposition that the family SUV is
destroying the earth and rejecting their shrill calls for "action" to
combat their computer model predictions of a "climate emergency?" See
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Speeches&ContentRecord_id=07F23E38-D271-4300-AC40-90C84A49134A
That may be the real Inconvenient Truth. After all, even the UN is
reportedly downgrading man’s impact on the climate by 25% and now
concedes that cow "emissions" are more damaging to the planet than C02
from cars. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=8EA35336-7E9C-9AF9-7025-4B6CD20B983A
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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17 Jan 2007 08:41:32 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
Does this sound like "calls for"?
"then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval"
I call your attention to the word "maybe."
"Nuremberg-style Trials"
"Intimidating scientists with calls for death trials"
Propagandize much?
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel's most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
The Weather Channel's (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global
warming program "The Climate Code," is advocating that the American
Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their "Seal of Approval" for any
television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is
creating a climate catastrophe.
"If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate
change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval.
Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on
cyclical weather patterns," Cullen wrote in her December 21 weblog on
the Weather Channel Website. [Note: It is also worth taking a look at
the comments section at the bottom of Cullen's blog, very
entertaining.] See: http://climate.weather.com/blog/9_11396.html This
latest call to silence skeptics of manmade global warming has been the
subject of discussion at the annual American Meteorological Society's
Annual conference in San Antonio Texas this week. See:
http://www.ametsoc.org/meet/annual
"It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that
hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather.
It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement,"
Cullen added. [Note to Cullen: As the resident 'climate expert' at
TWS, you should know that Hurricanes in the Southern Hemisphere do
rotate clockwise. Also, Cullen and the media have ignored the growing
climate skepticism by prominent scientists see:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD
Cullen's call for decertification of TV weatherman who do not agree
with her global warming assessment follows a year (2006) in which the
media, Hollywood and environmentalists tried their hardest to demonize
scientific skeptics of manmade global warming. Scott Pelley, CBS News
60 Minutes correspondent, compared skeptics of global warming to
"Holocaust deniers" and former Vice President turned foreign lobbyist
Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as "global warming
deniers." See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=A4017645-DE27-43D7-8C37-8FF923FD73F8
&
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD
Cullen Featured Advocate of Nuremberg-Style Trials for Climate
Skeptics
In addition, Cullen's December 17, 2006 episode of "The Climate Code"
TV show, featured a columnist who openly called for Nuremberg-style
Trials for climate skeptics. Cullen featured Grist Magazine's Dave
Roberts as an eco-expert opining on energy issues, with no mention of
his public call to institute what amounts to the death penalty for
scientists who express skepticism about global warming. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568
Cullen's call for suppressing scientific dissent comes at a time when
many skeptical scientists affiliated with Universities have
essentially been silenced over fears of loss of tenure and the
withdrawal of research grant money. The United Nations Inner
Governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) process has also steadily
pushed scientists away who hold inconvenient skeptical views and
reject the alarmist conclusions presented in the IPCC's summary for
policymakers. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=21CC88EC-CCA6-4A61-8C2E-78FA8DE4850D
Cullen also participated in the New York premiere of the fictional
Hollywood global warming disaster film The Day After Tomorrow in 2004
and has routinely promoted celebrity environmental views. See:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=%5CSpecialReports%5Carchive%5C200504%5CSPE20050414a.html
& http://press.weather.com/index.php/press_releases/109.html The
Weather Channel, which has billed itself as itself as the "pre-eminent
provider of weather information," also served as a consultant to The
Day After Tomorrow and allowed the use of its name and logo in the
movie.
Broadcast meteorologists (TV weatherman) skeptical of climate alarmism
have -- up until now -- been unburdened to speak out on climate
issues. Cullen's call for decertification by the AMS can only serve to
intimidate skeptics and further chill free speech in the scientific
community. Stripping the "Seal of Approval" from broadcast
meteorologists could affect their livelihoods, impact their salaries
and prestige. TV weathermen are truly the last of the independent
scientists and past surveys have shown many of them to be skeptical of
manmade global warming claims. Their independence is being threatened
now. For more info on the background of the AMS seal, see:
http://www.ametsoc.org/amscert
Intimidating scientists with calls for death trials, name calling and
calls for decertification appears to be the accepted tactics of the
climate alarmists. The real question is: Why do climate alarmists feel
the need to resort to such low brow tactics when they have a compliant
media willing to repeat their every assertion without question. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=3EE352B0-5D2E-4CC0-BD6B-304E3F6E0E2D
The alarmists also enjoy a huge financial advantage over the skeptics
with numerous foundations funding climate research, University
research money and the United Nations endless promotion of the cause.
Just how much money do the climate alarmists have at their disposal?
There was a $3 billion donation to the global warming cause from
Virgin Air's Richard Branson alone. The well-heeled environmental
lobbying groups have massive operating budgets compared to groups that
express global warming skepticism. The Sierra Club Foundation 2004
budget was $91 million and the Natural Resources Defense Council had a
$57 million budget for the same year. Compare that to the often media
derided Competitive Enterprise Institute's small $3.6 million annual
budget.
In addition, if a climate skeptic receives any money from industry,
the media immediately labels them and attempts to discredit their
work. The same media completely ignore the money flow from the
environmental lobby to climate alarmists like James Hansen and Michael
Oppenheimer. (ie. Hansen received $250,000 from the Heinz Foundation
and Oppenheimer is a paid partisan of Environmental Defense Fund)
The alarmists have all of these advantages, yet they still feel the
need to resort to desperation tactics to silence the skeptics. Could
it be that the alarmists realize that the American public is
increasingly rejecting their proposition that the family SUV is
destroying the earth and rejecting their shrill calls for "action" to
combat their computer model predictions of a "climate emergency?" See
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Speeches&ContentRecord_id=07F23E38-D271-4300-AC40-90C84A49134A
That may be the real Inconvenient Truth. After all, even the UN is
reportedly downgrading man's impact on the climate by 25% and now
concedes that cow "emissions" are more damaging to the planet than C02
from cars. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=8EA35336-7E9C-9AF9-7025-4B6CD20B983A
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:41:32 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:8nmtq29kfohc7qlvjlgnvsduhec7qkkgdf@4ax.com...
Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
Does this sound like "calls for"?
"then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval"
I call your attention to the word "maybe."
"Nuremberg-style Trials"
"Intimidating scientists with calls for death trials"
Not "Nuremberg-style Trials" no. More like the Episcopal inquisition
of the 12th century Catholic Church. It's a religious kind of thing.
Propagandize much?
:)
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel's most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
The Weather Channel's (TWC) Heidi Cullen, who hosts the weekly global
warming program "The Climate Code," is advocating that the American
Meteorological Society (AMS) revoke their "Seal of Approval" for any
television weatherman who expresses skepticism that human activity is
creating a climate catastrophe.
"If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate
change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval.
Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on
cyclical weather patterns," Cullen wrote in her December 21 weblog on
the Weather Channel Website. [Note: It is also worth taking a look at
the comments section at the bottom of Cullen's blog, very
entertaining.] See: http://climate.weather.com/blog/9_11396.html This
latest call to silence skeptics of manmade global warming has been the
subject of discussion at the annual American Meteorological Society's
Annual conference in San Antonio Texas this week. See:
http://www.ametsoc.org/meet/annual
"It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that
hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather.
It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement,"
Cullen added. [Note to Cullen: As the resident 'climate expert' at
TWS, you should know that Hurricanes in the Southern Hemisphere do
rotate clockwise. Also, Cullen and the media have ignored the growing
climate skepticism by prominent scientists see:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD
Cullen's call for decertification of TV weatherman who do not agree
with her global warming assessment follows a year (2006) in which the
media, Hollywood and environmentalists tried their hardest to demonize
scientific skeptics of manmade global warming. Scott Pelley, CBS News
60 Minutes correspondent, compared skeptics of global warming to
"Holocaust deniers" and former Vice President turned foreign lobbyist
Al Gore has repeatedly referred to skeptics as "global warming
deniers." See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=A4017645-DE27-43D7-8C37-8FF923FD73F8
&
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=E58DFF04-5A65-42A4-9F82-87381DE894CD
Cullen Featured Advocate of Nuremberg-Style Trials for Climate
Skeptics
In addition, Cullen's December 17, 2006 episode of "The Climate Code"
TV show, featured a columnist who openly called for Nuremberg-style
Trials for climate skeptics. Cullen featured Grist Magazine's Dave
Roberts as an eco-expert opining on energy issues, with no mention of
his public call to institute what amounts to the death penalty for
scientists who express skepticism about global warming. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568
Cullen's call for suppressing scientific dissent comes at a time when
many skeptical scientists affiliated with Universities have
essentially been silenced over fears of loss of tenure and the
withdrawal of research grant money. The United Nations Inner
Governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) process has also steadily
pushed scientists away who hold inconvenient skeptical views and
reject the alarmist conclusions presented in the IPCC's summary for
policymakers. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=21CC88EC-CCA6-4A61-8C2E-78FA8DE4850D
Cullen also participated in the New York premiere of the fictional
Hollywood global warming disaster film The Day After Tomorrow in 2004
and has routinely promoted celebrity environmental views. See:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=%5CSpecialReports%5Carchive%5C200504%5CSPE20050414a.html
& http://press.weather.com/index.php/press_releases/109.html The
Weather Channel, which has billed itself as itself as the "pre-eminent
provider of weather information," also served as a consultant to The
Day After Tomorrow and allowed the use of its name and logo in the
movie.
Broadcast meteorologists (TV weatherman) skeptical of climate alarmism
have -- up until now -- been unburdened to speak out on climate
issues. Cullen's call for decertification by the AMS can only serve to
intimidate skeptics and further chill free speech in the scientific
community. Stripping the "Seal of Approval" from broadcast
meteorologists could affect their livelihoods, impact their salaries
and prestige. TV weathermen are truly the last of the independent
scientists and past surveys have shown many of them to be skeptical of
manmade global warming claims. Their independence is being threatened
now. For more info on the background of the AMS seal, see:
http://www.ametsoc.org/amscert
Intimidating scientists with calls for death trials, name calling and
calls for decertification appears to be the accepted tactics of the
climate alarmists. The real question is: Why do climate alarmists feel
the need to resort to such low brow tactics when they have a compliant
media willing to repeat their every assertion without question. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=3EE352B0-5D2E-4CC0-BD6B-304E3F6E0E2D
The alarmists also enjoy a huge financial advantage over the skeptics
with numerous foundations funding climate research, University
research money and the United Nations endless promotion of the cause.
Just how much money do the climate alarmists have at their disposal?
There was a $3 billion donation to the global warming cause from
Virgin Air's Richard Branson alone. The well-heeled environmental
lobbying groups have massive operating budgets compared to groups that
express global warming skepticism. The Sierra Club Foundation 2004
budget was $91 million and the Natural Resources Defense Council had a
$57 million budget for the same year. Compare that to the often media
derided Competitive Enterprise Institute's small $3.6 million annual
budget.
In addition, if a climate skeptic receives any money from industry,
the media immediately labels them and attempts to discredit their
work. The same media completely ignore the money flow from the
environmental lobby to climate alarmists like James Hansen and Michael
Oppenheimer. (ie. Hansen received $250,000 from the Heinz Foundation
and Oppenheimer is a paid partisan of Environmental Defense Fund)
The alarmists have all of these advantages, yet they still feel the
need to resort to desperation tactics to silence the skeptics. Could
it be that the alarmists realize that the American public is
increasingly rejecting their proposition that the family SUV is
destroying the earth and rejecting their shrill calls for "action" to
combat their computer model predictions of a "climate emergency?" See
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Speeches&ContentRecord_id=07F23E38-D271-4300-AC40-90C84A49134A
That may be the real Inconvenient Truth. After all, even the UN is
reportedly downgrading man's impact on the climate by 25% and now
concedes that cow "emissions" are more damaging to the planet than C02
from cars. See:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Facts&ContentRecord_id=8EA35336-7E9C-9AF9-7025-4B6CD20B983A
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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17 Jan 2007 09:14:15 PM |
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Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in
news:8nmtq29kfohc7qlvjlgnvsduhec7qkkgdf@4ax.com:
Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers. Or should
we take the Tobacco Institute approach, deny the obvious,
and do nothing while calling for "further studies"?
Mitchell Holman
"It has not been proven that nicotine is addictive, the
same with cigarettes causing emphysema and other diseases."
Rush Limbaugh, Radio show, 4/29/94
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17 Jan 2007 09:36:26 PM |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
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| User: "Roger" |
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17 Jan 2007 10:06:29 PM |
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"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Someone who denies overwhelming evidence to embrace their feelings.
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| User: "NeoLibertarian" |
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17 Jan 2007 11:18:02 PM |
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Roger wrote:
"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Someone who denies overwhelming evidence to embrace their feelings.
"Feelings" don't often have a direct relationship to skepticism.
What "overwhelming" evidence are you referring to?
--
NeoLibertarian
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18 Jan 2007 12:47:09 AM |
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"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169091386.861255.303420@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Someone who denies overwhelming evidence to embrace their feelings.
"Feelings" don't often have a direct relationship to skepticism.
"Carbon Dioxide Monster" is not the language of the skeptic.
It is the language of a person who "thinks" with their feelings.
What "overwhelming" evidence are you referring to?
It's overwhelming. It does what overwhelming things do. It overwhelms.
Try and not find some.
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| User: "NeoLibertarian" |
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18 Jan 2007 01:22:28 AM |
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Roger wrote:
"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169097482.731828.154710@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Roger wrote:
"NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1169091386.861255.303420@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Someone who denies overwhelming evidence to embrace their feelings.
"Feelings" don't often have a direct relationship to skepticism.
"Carbon Dioxide Monster" is not the language of the skeptic.
It is the language of a person who "thinks" with their feelings.
Sorry, I should have shown more respect: Carbon Dioxide, Amen.
What "overwhelming" evidence are you referring to?
It's overwhelming. It does what overwhelming things do. It overwhelms.
Whatever evidence you're referring to may overwhelm you, certainly.
But 0.04% Carbon Dioxide, Amen, by volume in earth's troposphere, isn't
causing the forcing necessary to account for +2.4 W/m2.
It's rather underwhelming, in fact.
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17 Jan 2007 09:50:57 PM |
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NeoLibertarian wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Do you understand the nature of the debate?
Balein Lee Pramer
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17 Jan 2007 10:07:21 PM |
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<BaldinPramer@msn.com> wrote in message
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NeoLibertarian wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Do you understand the nature of the debate?
Seems to. It's about a monster named CO2.
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| User: "NeoLibertarian" |
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17 Jan 2007 11:16:16 PM |
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wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Do you understand the nature of the debate?
As well as my limited mental capacities allow.
You, on the other paw, obviously didn't understand the question.
"Global Warming Skepticism" takes three forms:
1) Denial that the average temperature of earth's surface has increased
1C.
2) Skepticism in regards to the projected extent of near-future global
warming and climate change.
3) Skepticism in regards to the suspected cause(s).
Which are we discussing now?
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18 Jan 2007 10:06:44 AM |
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NeoLibertarian wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers.
What's a "global warming" skeptic?
Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the Carbon Dioxide Monster?
Do you understand the nature of the debate?
As well as my limited mental capacities allow.
You, on the other paw, obviously didn't understand the question.
"Global Warming Skepticism" takes three forms:
1) Denial that the average temperature of earth's surface has increased
1C.
2) Skepticism in regards to the projected extent of near-future global
warming and climate change.
3) Skepticism in regards to the suspected cause(s).
Which are we discussing now?
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Baldin Lee Pramer
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18 Jan 2007 06:41:11 PM |
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wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
--
NeoLibertarian
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19 Jan 2007 11:55:45 AM |
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NeoLibertarian wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
What possible reason does a scientist have to make up global warming?
*rewinds tape of cuckoo clock "chiming"*
Go ahead. We're waiting.
-Aaron
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21 Jan 2007 08:10:41 AM |
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In article <1169229345.869396.116100@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
"Aaron" <aaronsan@msn.com> wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
What possible reason does a scientist have to make up global warming?
Who's making up "global warming?"
Hey. there's lots of money to be made in fighting the Carbon Dioxide
Monster. Let's blame it on him! Let's construct our argument around
anecdotal evidence and unsound science. Let's base predictions on an
average of Global Climate Models that don't work.
We'll make billions, and the chicks will love us.
*rewinds tape of cuckoo clock "chiming"*
"An Inconvenient Cuckoo Clock."
Go ahead. We're waiting.
For the UN to solve all your problems?
Tee-hee.
--
NeoLibertarian
"Nobody inherits their civilisation.
You always inherit the /ruins/ of your civilisation.
Beginning with yourself."
--Dennis M. Hammes
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21 Jan 2007 01:45:45 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:10:41 GMT, Neolibertarian <cognac756@yahoo.com>
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Hey. there's lots of money to be made in fighting the Carbon Dioxide
Monster. Let's blame it on him! Let's construct our argument around
anecdotal evidence and unsound science. Let's base predictions on an
average of Global Climate Models that don't work.
Better to make money off global warming than global warring.
Swill
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"Where mistakes have been made,
the responsibility rests with me."
George Bush - 1/10/2006
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21 Jan 2007 02:53:20 PM |
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wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:10:41 GMT, Neolibertarian <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hey. there's lots of money to be made in fighting the Carbon Dioxide
Monster. Let's blame it on him! Let's construct our argument around
anecdotal evidence and unsound science. Let's base predictions on an
average of Global Climate Models that don't work.
Better to make money off global warming than global warring.
Tell that to the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and
Crusaders.
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NeoLibertarian
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19 Jan 2007 01:40:49 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2007 09:55:45 -0800, "Aaron" <aaronsan@msn.com> wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
What possible reason does a scientist have to make up global warming?
*rewinds tape of cuckoo clock "chiming"*
Go ahead. We're waiting.
"Global climate change is real: And it has been for over 4 billion
years." -- Captain compassion
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Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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19 Jan 2007 11:13:33 PM |
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In article <ri72r2tmqck7nedmc4rbrftq1tqom4c7jq@4ax.com>,
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
On 19 Jan 2007 09:55:45 -0800, "Aaron" <aaronsan@msn.com> wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
What possible reason does a scientist have to make up global warming?
*rewinds tape of cuckoo clock "chiming"*
Go ahead. We're waiting.
"Global climate change is real: And it has been for over 4 billion
years." -- Captain compassion
Yeah, but it USUALLY doesn't happen so fast people notice.
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20 Jan 2007 09:04:53 AM |
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Hugh Gibbons wrote:
"Global climate change is real: And it has been for over 4 billion
years." -- Captain compassion
Yeah, but it USUALLY doesn't happen so fast people notice.
People didn't "notice" the rise in global temperatures over the last
century, dummy.
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20 Jan 2007 12:38:34 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:13:33 -0700, Hugh Gibbons
<hugh_gibbons@dontsendmeemail.net> wrote:
In article <ri72r2tmqck7nedmc4rbrftq1tqom4c7jq@4ax.com>,
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
On 19 Jan 2007 09:55:45 -0800, "Aaron" <aaronsan@msn.com> wrote:
NeoLibertarian wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
What possible reason does a scientist have to make up global warming?
*rewinds tape of cuckoo clock "chiming"*
Go ahead. We're waiting.
"Global climate change is real: And it has been for over 4 billion
years." -- Captain compassion
Yeah, but it USUALLY doesn't happen so fast people notice.
For 99.99% of human existence humans couldn't notice. No thermometers,
barometers, satellites, Radio, TV, airplanes, etc. No Al Gore. No UN.
A lot of this is perception. How would a German of the 14th century
know the average temperature of NYC or an 12th century BCE Egyptian
know how many Cat 5 Hurricanes hit the gulf coast?
In the average lifespan of a human it would take radical climate
change indeed for an individual who lived in the same location to
notice any difference. I've lived in the same location for 21 years
and I certainly haven't noticed any climate shift. I have "experts"
telling me it is happening and in 100 years the world will be a
hellish place. I have no way to check the accuracy of their claims. It
is highly doubtful that I'll last another 50 years.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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21 Jan 2007 12:35:16 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:38:34 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
In the average lifespan of a human it would take radical climate
change indeed for an individual who lived in the same location to
notice any difference. I've lived in the same location for 21 years
and I certainly haven't noticed any climate shift. I have "experts"
telling me it is happening and in 100 years the world will be a
hellish place. I have no way to check the accuracy of their claims. It
is highly doubtful that I'll last another 50 years.
Winter precip used to be pretty regular when I first moved to north
Georgia. Now it's rare.
Swill
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"Where mistakes have been made,
the responsibility rests with me."
George Bush - 1/10/2006
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21 Jan 2007 08:05:11 AM |
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In article <7c26r2t1jdg81oiags78klj3ms07hn2bc2@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:38:34 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
In the average lifespan of a human it would take radical climate
change indeed for an individual who lived in the same location to
notice any difference. I've lived in the same location for 21 years
and I certainly haven't noticed any climate shift. I have "experts"
telling me it is happening and in 100 years the world will be a
hellish place. I have no way to check the accuracy of their claims. It
is highly doubtful that I'll last another 50 years.
Winter precip used to be pretty regular when I first moved to north
Georgia. Now it's rare.
You're referring to weather, silly.
If weather weren't dynamic and cyclical, why do you suppose the ancient
legends about wooly worms and groundhogs were originated?
--
NeoLibertarian
"Nobody inherits their civilisation.
You always inherit the /ruins/ of your civilisation.
Beginning with yourself."
--Dennis M. Hammes
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21 Jan 2007 01:44:57 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:05:11 GMT, Neolibertarian <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Winter precip used to be pretty regular when I first moved to north
Georgia. Now it's rare.
You're referring to weather, silly.
If weather weren't dynamic and cyclical, why do you suppose the ancient
legends about wooly worms and groundhogs were originated?
Weather: "Weather is the specific condition of the atmosphere at a
particular place and time. It is measured in terms of such things as
wind, temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, cloudiness, and
precipitation. In most places, weather can change from hour-to-hour,
day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate is the average of weather
over time and space. A simple way of remembering the difference is
that climate is what you expect (eg cold winters) and ‘weather' is
what you get (eg a blizzard)."
www.natsource.com/markets/index.asp
Climate: "The average weather, usually taken over a 30 year time
period, for a particular region and time period. Climate is not the
same as weather, but rather, it is the average pattern of weather for
a particular region. Weather describes the short-term state of the
atmosphere. Climatic elements include precipitation, temperature,
humidity, sunshine, wind velocity, phenomena such as fog, frost, and
hail-storms, and other measures of the weather."
http://weather.ncbuy.com/glossary.html?action=LETTER&term=C
Idiot.
Swill
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"Where mistakes have been made,
the responsibility rests with me."
George Bush - 1/10/2006
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21 Jan 2007 02:52:06 PM |
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wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:05:11 GMT, Neolibertarian <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Winter precip used to be pretty regular when I first moved to north
Georgia. Now it's rare.
You're referring to weather, silly.
If weather weren't dynamic and cyclical, why do you suppose the ancient
legends about wooly worms and groundhogs were originated?
Weather: "Weather is the specific condition of the atmosphere at a
particular place and time. It is measured in terms of such things as
wind, temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, cloudiness, and
precipitation. In most places, weather can change from hour-to-hour,
day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate is the average of weather
over time and space. A simple way of remembering the difference is
that climate is what you expect (eg cold winters) and 'weather' is
what you get (eg a blizzard)."
www.natsource.com/markets/index.asp
Climate: "The average weather, usually taken over a 30 year time
period, for a particular region and time period. Climate is not the
same as weather, but rather, it is the average pattern of weather for
a particular region. Weather describes the short-term state of the
atmosphere. Climatic elements include precipitation, temperature,
humidity, sunshine, wind velocity, phenomena such as fog, frost, and
hail-storms, and other measures of the weather."
http://weather.ncbuy.com/glossary.html?action=LETTER&term=C
Idiot.
Noticing that you don't perceive as much (winter) precipitation as you
remember a few years ago has nothing to do with climate.
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NeoLibertarian
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18 Jan 2007 07:58:43 PM |
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On 18 Jan 2007 16:41:11 -0800, "NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:
BaldinPramer@msn.com wrote:
Wasn't it you who said "Someone who doesn't worship at the alter of the
Carbon Dioxide Monster?" It sure looks like it from the structure of
the thread. Your statement caused me to question your understanding,
because you were attacking our "global warming skeptic" ad hominem.
Your list of classes of skepticism indicates a more reasonable stance.
So what's the deal? Are non-skeptics all fundamentalist worshippers at
the altar of the CDM?
Yes.
Beware Science's spokesmen. Investigate the science yourself (by
passing the spokesmen).
You don't need a Weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows.
I almost used that quote last time. :)
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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17 Jan 2007 11:44:46 PM |
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:14:15 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<Noemail@comcast.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in
news:8nmtq29kfohc7qlvjlgnvsduhec7qkkgdf@4ax.com:
Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers. Or should
we take the Tobacco Institute approach, deny the obvious,
and do nothing while calling for "further studies"?
We must stone the apostates.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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18 Jan 2007 12:51:14 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:14:15 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<Noemail@comcast.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in
news:8nmtq29kfohc7qlvjlgnvsduhec7qkkgdf@4ax.com:
Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel's most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers. Or should
we take the Tobacco Institute approach, deny the obvious,
and do nothing while calling for "further studies"?
We must stone the apostates.
Can you be both priest and atheist?
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| Title: Re: Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics |
18 Jan 2007 11:21:28 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:51:14 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:d62uq2d8k6t076qmau3otb6miuoc9qovrs@4ax.com...
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:14:15 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<Noemail@comcast.com> wrote:
Captain Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in
news:8nmtq29kfohc7qlvjlgnvsduhec7qkkgdf@4ax.com:
Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
January 17, 2007
Posted by Marc Morano 202-224-5762 (8:50pm
ET)
The Weather Channel's most prominent climatologist is advocating that
broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification
if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic
global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year
(2006) in which skeptics were compared to "Holocaust Deniers" and
Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate
alarmists.
Good. Global warming skeptics have as much scientific
credibility as creationists and flat-earthers. Or should
we take the Tobacco Institute approach, deny the obvious,
and do nothing while calling for "further studies"?
We must stone the apostates.
Can you be both priest and atheist?
Certainly.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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17 Jan 2007 10:10:14 PM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
Weather Channel Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming
Skeptics
January 17, 2007
Next come the re-education camps....
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