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Well lookee here, another Swift Boat Hypocrite exposed! |
Records Counter A Critic Of Kerry
Fellow Skipper's Citation Refers To Enemy Fire
By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 19, 2004
Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most vocal
critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate of lying
about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own version of
events.
In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who
commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly
disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came under
fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March 13, 1969.
Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.
But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released yesterday to
The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act, contain several
references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all
units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won his own Bronze Star that day,
and the citation praises him for providing assistance to a damaged Swift
boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."
As one of five Swift boat skippers who led the raid up the Bay Hap River,
Thurlow was a direct participant in the disputed events. He is also a
leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of
Vietnam veterans dismayed by Kerry's subsequent antiwar activities, which
has aired a controversial television advertisement attacking his war record.
In interviews and written reminiscences, Kerry has described how his 50-foot
patrol boat came under fire from the banks of the Bay Hap after a mine
explosion disabled another U.S. patrol boat. According to Kerry and members
of his crew, the firing continued as an injured Kerry leaned over the bow of
his ship to rescue a Special Forces officer who was blown overboard in a
second explosion.
Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was "not under fire"
when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described Kerry's
Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came under "small
arms and automatic weapons fire," as "totally fabricated."
"I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was released by
Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the backing of more than
250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of Kerry's fellow boat
commanders.
A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his
actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG THURLOW
completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the disabled boat
and its crew. The citation states that all other units in the flotilla also
came under fire.
"It's like a Hollywood presentation here, which wasn't the case," Thurlow
said last night after being read the full text of his Bronze Star citation.
"My personal feeling was always that I got the award for coming to the
rescue of the boat that was mined. This casts doubt on anybody's awards. It
is sickening and disgusting."
Thurlow said he would consider his award "fraudulent" if coming under enemy
fire was the basis for it. "I am here to state that we weren't under fire,"
he said. He speculated that Kerry could have been the source of at least
some of the language used in the citation.
In a telephone interview Tuesday evening after he attended a Swift Boat
Veterans strategy session in an Arlington hotel, Thurlow said he lost his
Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he was unwilling to
authorize release of his military records because he feared attempts by the
Kerry campaign to discredit him and other anti-Kerry veterans.
The Post filed an independent request for the documents with the National
Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, which is the central repository for
veterans' records. The documents were faxed to The Post by officials at the
records center yesterday.
Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that Kerry was
the author of an after-action report that described how his boat came under
enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that assertion, and there is
no convincing documentary evidence to settle the argument. As the senior
skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might have been expected to write the
after-action report for March 13, but he said that Kerry routinely "duked
the system" to present his version of events.
For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand what
was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down the river
after the mine exploded under another boat. He later returned to provide
assistance to the stricken boat.
Thurlow, an oil industry worker and former teacher in Kansas, said he was
angry with Kerry for his antiwar activities on his return to the United
States and particularly Kerry's claim before the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee that U.S. troops in Vietnam had committed war crimes "with the
full awareness of officers at all levels of command."
" 'Upset' is too mild a word," said Thurlow, a registered Republican, of his
reaction to Kerry then. "He did it strictly for his own personal political
gain, and it directly affected every single one of us as we were trying to
put our lives together."
Two other Swift boat skippers who were direct participants in the March 13,
1969, mine explosion on the Bay Hap, Jack Chenoweth and Richard Pees, have
said they do not remember coming under "enemy fire." A fourth commander, Don
Droz, who was one of Kerry's closest friends in Vietnam, was killed in
action a month later.
The incident featured prominently in an anti-Kerry television ad produced by
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth earlier this month. "John Kerry lied to get
his Bronze Star," says Van Odell, a gunner on PCF-23, one of the boats that
came to the rescue of the stricken boat. "I know. I was there."
The Bronze Star controversy is also a major focus of an anti-Kerry book by
John E. O'Neill, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against
John Kerry," which will hit No. 2 on The Post's bestseller list this
weekend. The book accuses Kerry of "fleeing the scene" and lying repeatedly
about his role.
Members of Kerry's crew have come to his defense, as has Rassmann, the
Special Forces officer whom he fished from the river. Rassmann says he has
vivid memories of being fired at from both banks after he fell into the
river and as Kerry came to his rescue. The two had an emotional reunion on
the eve of the Iowa Democratic caucuses in January, an event that some
political analysts believe helped swing votes to Kerry at a crucial time.
The Bronze Star recommendations for both Kerry and Thurlow were signed by
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, who received reports on the incident from his
base in the Gulf of Thailand. Elliott is a supporter of Swift Boat Veterans
for Truth and has questioned Kerry's actions in Vietnam. But he has refused
repeated requests for an interview after issuing conflicting statements to
the Boston Globe about whether Kerry deserved a Silver Star. He was
unreachable last night.
Money has poured into Swift Boat Veterans for Truth since the group launched
its television advertisement attacking Kerry earlier this month. According
to O'Neill, the group has received more than $450,000 over the past two
weeks, mainly in small contributions. The Dallas Morning News reported
yesterday that the organization has also received two $100,000 checks from
Houston home builder Bob Perry, who backed George W. Bush's campaigns for
Texas governor and for president.
Bush campaign officials have said they have no connection to Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth, which is not permitted to coordinate its activities with
a presidential campaign under federal election law.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13267-2004Aug18?language=printer
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Swift Boat Veterans For Hypocrisy
Indeed, a veterans group (Swift Boat Veterans For Truth) supporting the
President holds as it's mission: "We believe it is incumbent on ALL
presidential candidates to be totally honest and forthcoming regarding
personal background and policy information that would help the voting public
make an informed decision when choosing the next president of the United
States." It is in that spirit that I offer the following.
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04325.html
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19 Aug 2004 11:28:31 PM |
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For Immediate Release
August 19, 2004
Statement By Swift Boat Veterans for Truth Member Larry Thurlow
I am convinced that the language used in my citation for a Bronze Star
was language taken directly from John Kerry's report which falsely
described the action on the Bay Hap River as action that saw small
arms fire and automatic weapons fire from both banks of the river.
To this day, I can say without a doubt in my mind, along with other
accounts from my shipmates-there was no hostile enemy fire directed at
my boat or at any of the five boats operating on the river that day.
I submitted no paperwork for a medal nor did I file an after action
report describing the incident. To my knowledge, John Kerry was the
only officer who filed a report describing his version of the
incidents that occurred on the river that day.
It was not until I had left the Navy-approximately three months after
I left the service-that I was notified that I was to receive a
citation for my actions on that day.
I believed then as I believe now that I received my Bronze Star for my
efforts to rescue the injured crewmen from swift boat number three and
to conduct damage control to prevent that boat from sinking. My boat
and several other swift boats went to the aid of our fellow swift boat
sailors whose craft was adrift and taking on water. We provided
immediate rescue and damage control to prevent boat three from sinking
and to offer immediate protection and comfort to the injured crew.
After the mine exploded, leaving swift boat three dead in the water,
John Kerry's boat, which was on the opposite side of the river, fled
the scene. US Army Special Forces officer Jim Rassmann, who was on
Kerry's boat at the time, fell off the boat and into the water.
Kerry's boat returned several minutes later-under no hail of enemy
gunfire-to retrieve Rassmann from the river only seconds before
another boat was going to pick him up.
Kerry campaign spokespersons have conflicting accounts of this
incident-the latest one being that Kerry's boat did leave but only
briefly and returned under withering enemy fire to rescue Mr.
Rassmann. However, none of the other boats on the river that day
reported enemy fire nor was anyone wounded by small arms action. The
only damage on that day was done to boat three-a result of the
underwater mine. None of the other swift boats received damage from
enemy gunfire.
And in a new development, Kerry campaign officials are now finally
acknowledging that while Kerry's boat left the scene, none of the
other boats on the river ever left the damaged swift boat. This is a
direct contradiction to previous accounts made by Jim Rassmann in the
Oregonian newspaper and a direct contradiction to the "No Man Left
Behind" theme during the Democratic National Convention.
These ever changing accounts of the Bay Hap River incident by Kerry
campaign officials leave me asking one question. If no one ever left
the scene of the Bay Hap River incident, how could anyone be left
behind?
http://www.swiftvets.com
Statement by Navy Veteran Van Odell, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
In Rebuttal to Michael Dobbs, Washington Post, August 19, 2004
A courageous, soft spoken man of the Midwest, Larry Thurlow has a
heart bigger than the great plains and a commitment to truth and
honesty that is boundless. He is under attack, because John Kerry is
feeling the heat of truth at the hands of this honest man and others
like him.
The Kerry Campaign is attacking the truthfulness of this man and the
Bronze Star he so richly deserves for his actions on March 13, 1969.
I was there. I saw what happened.
The mine's detonation lifted PCF-3 completely out of the water just
yards ahead of me. All boats commenced suppression fire in case enemy
small arms fire ensued. None did.
All boats came to the aid of PCF-3, except one: John Kerry's boat.
Kerry fled.
Larry Thurlow piloted his boat straight toward the mine-damaged PCF-3
from which thick, black smoke billowed. He jumped aboard and
personally led damage control operations that saved the boat and
rescue operations that saved the lives of badly wounded men. Larry's
leadership was in the highest traditions of the naval service. His
leadership allowed the other men and boats of the mission to exit the
river safely. This single act of meritorious service -- the chief
requirement of the Bronze Star -- should be honored, not ridiculed, by
the Kerry campaign and its allies in the mainstream media.
To reiterate, only one enemy weapon was deployed that day -- the
command-detonated submerged mine that disabled PCF-3. Larry Thurlow's
citation contained references to "enemy small arms and automatic
weapons fire," because that was the language chosen by John Kerry who
penned the spot report on the action that day. There was no "enemy
small arms and automatic weapons fire" received that day. John Kerry's
report was fiction -- a hoax on the entire chain of command. Larry
Thurlow's heroism and meritorious service, however, is real.
To me Larry is one of the heroes of our country. He is a man who
served his country when called and who returned home to be a
productive citizen. Larry and men like him are the strong backbone of
our society. I am proud to have served with him.
http://www.swiftvets.com
---
"I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat
to our country."
- John Edwards
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/24/le.00.html
"The real war on terror is not military -- it is an
intelligence gathering and law enforcement operation."
- John Kerry
"I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis."
- John Kerry
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20 Aug 2004 11:52:57 AM |
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On 19 Aug 2004 21:28:31 -0700, (Charles
Farley) wrote:
I am convinced that the language used in my citation for a Bronze Star
was language taken directly from John Kerry's report which falsely
described the action on the Bay Hap River as action that saw small
arms fire and automatic weapons fire from both banks of the river.
Chuckle. Caught in a lie he must continue with more lies. Does he have
any basis for this claim. No. Does it matter to detractors? No.
Rasmussen put Kerry in for the medal. He was in the water and
remembers distinctly being shot at from both banks. He was frustrated
that Kerry got a Bronze star for saving his life. He had put him in
for a silver.
SO we know Rassmussen put in Kerrys request, and now Thurlow wants to
say his own medal commendation was cribbed from Kerrys which he claims
was written by Kerry.
Sheesh.
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Just another albino black sheep
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| User: "Kilgore Trout" |
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20 Aug 2004 12:09:06 PM |
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wrote in
news:luaci05542uu3t4lach64ai4ea9h1njeot@4ax.com:
SO we know Rassmussen put in Kerrys request, and now Thurlow wants to
say his own medal commendation was cribbed from Kerrys which he claims
was written by Kerry.
According to John O'Neill, Thurlow's citation was for, among other things,
after being thrown overboard, climbing back into his boat and heading down
into the hull of his boat to mend leaks so that it wouldn't sink. O'Neill
didn't say how Kerry, who they claim had left and then came back and pulled
Rassman out of the water, could have seen Thurlow's actions from another
boat 50 years away - so it is unclear how a report by Kerry could have been
the basis for Thurlow's award.
This is the problem when you lie, as the lies get exposed you have to spin
crazier and crazier ones to cover for the previous ones.
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20 Aug 2004 12:24:18 AM |
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On 19 Aug 2004 21:28:31 -0700, (Charles
Farley) wrote:
For Immediate Release
August 19, 2004
Statement By Swift Boat Veterans for Truth Member Larry Thurlow
I am convinced that the language used in my citation for a Bronze Star
was language taken directly from John Kerry's report which falsely
described the action on the Bay Hap River as action that saw small
arms fire and automatic weapons fire from both banks of the river.
To this day, I can say without a doubt in my mind, along with other
accounts from my shipmates-there was no hostile enemy fire directed at
my boat or at any of the five boats operating on the river that day.
I submitted no paperwork for a medal nor did I file an after action
report describing the incident. To my knowledge, John Kerry was the
only officer who filed a report describing his version of the
incidents that occurred on the river that day.
It was not until I had left the Navy-approximately three months after
I left the service-that I was notified that I was to receive a
citation for my actions on that day.
I believed then as I believe now that I received my Bronze Star for my
efforts to rescue the injured crewmen from swift boat number three and
to conduct damage control to prevent that boat from sinking. My boat
and several other swift boats went to the aid of our fellow swift boat
sailors whose craft was adrift and taking on water. We provided
immediate rescue and damage control to prevent boat three from sinking
and to offer immediate protection and comfort to the injured crew.
After the mine exploded, leaving swift boat three dead in the water,
John Kerry's boat, which was on the opposite side of the river, fled
the scene. US Army Special Forces officer Jim Rassmann, who was on
Kerry's boat at the time, fell off the boat and into the water.
Kerry's boat returned several minutes later-under no hail of enemy
gunfire-to retrieve Rassmann from the river only seconds before
another boat was going to pick him up.
Kerry campaign spokespersons have conflicting accounts of this
incident-the latest one being that Kerry's boat did leave but only
briefly and returned under withering enemy fire to rescue Mr.
Rassmann. However, none of the other boats on the river that day
reported enemy fire nor was anyone wounded by small arms action. The
only damage on that day was done to boat three-a result of the
underwater mine. None of the other swift boats received damage from
enemy gunfire.
And in a new development, Kerry campaign officials are now finally
acknowledging that while Kerry's boat left the scene, none of the
other boats on the river ever left the damaged swift boat. This is a
direct contradiction to previous accounts made by Jim Rassmann in the
Oregonian newspaper and a direct contradiction to the "No Man Left
Behind" theme during the Democratic National Convention.
These ever changing accounts of the Bay Hap River incident by Kerry
campaign officials leave me asking one question. If no one ever left
the scene of the Bay Hap River incident, how could anyone be left
behind?
http://www.swiftvets.com
Statement by Navy Veteran Van Odell, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
In Rebuttal to Michael Dobbs, Washington Post, August 19, 2004
A courageous, soft spoken man of the Midwest, Larry Thurlow has a
heart bigger than the great plains and a commitment to truth and
honesty that is boundless. He is under attack, because John Kerry is
feeling the heat of truth at the hands of this honest man and others
like him.
The Kerry Campaign is attacking the truthfulness of this man and the
Bronze Star he so richly deserves for his actions on March 13, 1969.
I was there. I saw what happened.
The mine's detonation lifted PCF-3 completely out of the water just
yards ahead of me. All boats commenced suppression fire in case enemy
small arms fire ensued. None did.
All boats came to the aid of PCF-3, except one: John Kerry's boat.
Kerry fled.
Larry Thurlow piloted his boat straight toward the mine-damaged PCF-3
from which thick, black smoke billowed. He jumped aboard and
personally led damage control operations that saved the boat and
rescue operations that saved the lives of badly wounded men. Larry's
leadership was in the highest traditions of the naval service. His
leadership allowed the other men and boats of the mission to exit the
river safely. This single act of meritorious service -- the chief
requirement of the Bronze Star -- should be honored, not ridiculed, by
the Kerry campaign and its allies in the mainstream media.
To reiterate, only one enemy weapon was deployed that day -- the
command-detonated submerged mine that disabled PCF-3. Larry Thurlow's
citation contained references to "enemy small arms and automatic
weapons fire," because that was the language chosen by John Kerry who
penned the spot report on the action that day. There was no "enemy
small arms and automatic weapons fire" received that day. John Kerry's
report was fiction -- a hoax on the entire chain of command. Larry
Thurlow's heroism and meritorious service, however, is real.
To me Larry is one of the heroes of our country. He is a man who
served his country when called and who returned home to be a
productive citizen. Larry and men like him are the strong backbone of
our society. I am proud to have served with him.
http://www.swiftvets.com
Excuse me, please direct me to a reliable non republican funded
impartial site. You know a real news non FOX News slanted site. Some
site without a personal $take in this election. Umkay? I can't take
anything that the swiftvets say seriously. Too many inconsistencies
coming out. Somewhere in between two lies is the truth.
---
"I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat
to our country."
- John Edwards
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/24/le.00.html
"The real war on terror is not military -- it is an
intelligence gathering and law enforcement operation."
- John Kerry
"I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis."
- John Kerry
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| User: "James Monroe" |
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19 Aug 2004 01:07:41 AM |
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Since Thurlow outed himself as a liar and ruined their little scam, I
wonder if he has to give the RNC back the money they must have paid
him to lie in the first place.
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:18:17 -0600, "NotBush2004"
<NotBush@WhiteHouse.Gov> wrote:
Records Counter A Critic Of Kerry
Fellow Skipper's Citation Refers To Enemy Fire
By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 19, 2004
Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most vocal
critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate of lying
about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own version of
events.
In newspaper interviews and a best-selling book, Larry Thurlow, who
commanded a Navy Swift boat alongside Kerry in Vietnam, has strongly
disputed Kerry's claim that the Massachusetts Democrat's boat came under
fire during a mission in Viet Cong-controlled territory on March 13, 1969.
Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day.
But Thurlow's military records, portions of which were released yesterday to
The Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act, contain several
references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at "all
units" of the five-boat flotilla. Thurlow won his own Bronze Star that day,
and the citation praises him for providing assistance to a damaged Swift
boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."
As one of five Swift boat skippers who led the raid up the Bay Hap River,
Thurlow was a direct participant in the disputed events. He is also a
leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of
Vietnam veterans dismayed by Kerry's subsequent antiwar activities, which
has aired a controversial television advertisement attacking his war record.
In interviews and written reminiscences, Kerry has described how his 50-foot
patrol boat came under fire from the banks of the Bay Hap after a mine
explosion disabled another U.S. patrol boat. According to Kerry and members
of his crew, the firing continued as an injured Kerry leaned over the bow of
his ship to rescue a Special Forces officer who was blown overboard in a
second explosion.
Last month, Thurlow swore in an affidavit that Kerry was "not under fire"
when he fished Lt. James Rassmann out of the water. He described Kerry's
Bronze Star citation, which says that all units involved came under "small
arms and automatic weapons fire," as "totally fabricated."
"I never heard a shot," Thurlow said in his affidavit, which was released by
Swift Boats Veterans for Truth. The group claims the backing of more than
250 Vietnam veterans, including a majority of Kerry's fellow boat
commanders.
A document recommending Thurlow for the Bronze Star noted that all his
actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire which LTJG THURLOW
completely ignored in providing immediate assistance" to the disabled boat
and its crew. The citation states that all other units in the flotilla also
came under fire.
"It's like a Hollywood presentation here, which wasn't the case," Thurlow
said last night after being read the full text of his Bronze Star citation.
"My personal feeling was always that I got the award for coming to the
rescue of the boat that was mined. This casts doubt on anybody's awards. It
is sickening and disgusting."
Thurlow said he would consider his award "fraudulent" if coming under enemy
fire was the basis for it. "I am here to state that we weren't under fire,"
he said. He speculated that Kerry could have been the source of at least
some of the language used in the citation.
In a telephone interview Tuesday evening after he attended a Swift Boat
Veterans strategy session in an Arlington hotel, Thurlow said he lost his
Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he was unwilling to
authorize release of his military records because he feared attempts by the
Kerry campaign to discredit him and other anti-Kerry veterans.
The Post filed an independent request for the documents with the National
Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, which is the central repository for
veterans' records. The documents were faxed to The Post by officials at the
records center yesterday.
Thurlow and other anti-Kerry veterans have repeatedly alleged that Kerry was
the author of an after-action report that described how his boat came under
enemy fire. Kerry campaign researchers dispute that assertion, and there is
no convincing documentary evidence to settle the argument. As the senior
skipper in the flotilla, Thurlow might have been expected to write the
after-action report for March 13, but he said that Kerry routinely "duked
the system" to present his version of events.
For much of the episode, Kerry was not in a position to know firsthand what
was happening on Thurlow's boat, as Kerry's boat had sped down the river
after the mine exploded under another boat. He later returned to provide
assistance to the stricken boat.
Thurlow, an oil industry worker and former teacher in Kansas, said he was
angry with Kerry for his antiwar activities on his return to the United
States and particularly Kerry's claim before the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee that U.S. troops in Vietnam had committed war crimes "with the
full awareness of officers at all levels of command."
" 'Upset' is too mild a word," said Thurlow, a registered Republican, of his
reaction to Kerry then. "He did it strictly for his own personal political
gain, and it directly affected every single one of us as we were trying to
put our lives together."
Two other Swift boat skippers who were direct participants in the March 13,
1969, mine explosion on the Bay Hap, Jack Chenoweth and Richard Pees, have
said they do not remember coming under "enemy fire." A fourth commander, Don
Droz, who was one of Kerry's closest friends in Vietnam, was killed in
action a month later.
The incident featured prominently in an anti-Kerry television ad produced by
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth earlier this month. "John Kerry lied to get
his Bronze Star," says Van Odell, a gunner on PCF-23, one of the boats that
came to the rescue of the stricken boat. "I know. I was there."
The Bronze Star controversy is also a major focus of an anti-Kerry book by
John E. O'Neill, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against
John Kerry," which will hit No. 2 on The Post's bestseller list this
weekend. The book accuses Kerry of "fleeing the scene" and lying repeatedly
about his role.
Members of Kerry's crew have come to his defense, as has Rassmann, the
Special Forces officer whom he fished from the river. Rassmann says he has
vivid memories of being fired at from both banks after he fell into the
river and as Kerry came to his rescue. The two had an emotional reunion on
the eve of the Iowa Democratic caucuses in January, an event that some
political analysts believe helped swing votes to Kerry at a crucial time.
The Bronze Star recommendations for both Kerry and Thurlow were signed by
Lt. Cmdr. George M. Elliott, who received reports on the incident from his
base in the Gulf of Thailand. Elliott is a supporter of Swift Boat Veterans
for Truth and has questioned Kerry's actions in Vietnam. But he has refused
repeated requests for an interview after issuing conflicting statements to
the Boston Globe about whether Kerry deserved a Silver Star. He was
unreachable last night.
Money has poured into Swift Boat Veterans for Truth since the group launched
its television advertisement attacking Kerry earlier this month. According
to O'Neill, the group has received more than $450,000 over the past two
weeks, mainly in small contributions. The Dallas Morning News reported
yesterday that the organization has also received two $100,000 checks from
Houston home builder Bob Perry, who backed George W. Bush's campaigns for
Texas governor and for president.
Bush campaign officials have said they have no connection to Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth, which is not permitted to coordinate its activities with
a presidential campaign under federal election law.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13267-2004Aug18?language=printer
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19 Aug 2004 01:27:00 AM |
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"James Monroe" <spamless@spamless.com> wrote in message
news:kpg8i0d7g6j9glonl0ulgg5fgtns26ojl6@4ax.com...
Since Thurlow outed himself as a liar and ruined their little scam, I
wonder if he has to give the RNC back the money they must have paid
him to lie in the first place.
I'd be happy if he would repent of his hypocrisy.
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Swift Boat Veterans For Hypocrisy
Indeed, a veterans group (Swift Boat Veterans For Truth) supporting the
President holds as it's mission: "We believe it is incumbent on ALL
presidential candidates to be totally honest and forthcoming regarding
personal background and policy information that would help the voting public
make an informed decision when choosing the next president of the United
States." It is in that spirit that I offer the following.
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/08/con04325.html
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In May 1972, Bush moved to Alabama to work on a political campaign and, he
has said, to perform his Guard service there for a year. But other Guard
officers have said they have no recollection of ever seeing him there.
The documents released on Friday by the Pentagon included two faded
computerized payroll sheets showing Bush was not paid during the latter part
of 1972 and offer no evidence to place Bush in Alabama during the latter
part of 1972.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/bush.military.records.reut/
http://crisispapers.org/essays/awol-scandal.htm
http://glcq.com/
www.awolbush.com
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| Title: Re: Well lookee here, another Swift Boat Hypocrite exposed! |
19 Aug 2004 02:00:34 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:07:41 -0700, James Monroe
<spamless@spamless.com> wrote:
Since Thurlow outed himself as a liar and ruined their little scam, I
wonder if he has to give the RNC back the money they must have paid
him to lie in the first place.
Or his medal.
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Just another albino black sheep
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