"militiaguy" <beaver_militia@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<tyreenblaque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149874738.313196.286690@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Finally, I've been waiting a long time for this.

Who was John Doe # 2, the swarthy arab/hispanic looking guy seen on
numerous occasions in the company of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols ???

Proof of who John Doe #2 has been ignored because of who he is.
http://geocities.com/beaver_militia/mcveigh.html
Complete with pics and explanation.
But this is old news.

I don't know about you, but geocities websites have always been my source
for
the truth.

The only reason why nobody pays attention to them is because they're
afraid of
the facts!

Yeah! That's the ticket!

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 13:50:57 -0400, "Pike" <pike555@excite.com> wrote:

You really have some difficulties in comprehension. Funny how most of the
article is devoted to a German connection pertaining to a German by the name

Strassmeir, yet you completely ignored it; preferring to rant and rave about

Muslim, when the word Muslim isn't even present in the article.

The article simply opens the box of unanswered questions. You know,
the issues that the court refused to hear in its rush to hang
McVeigh.

There's also a (officially) unidentified spare foot in a military
boot.

<tyreenblaque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149874738.313196.286690@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Finally, I've been waiting a long time for this.

Who was John Doe # 2, the swarthy arab/hispanic looking guy seen on
numerous occasions in the company of Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols ???

For the longest time I wondered :Whatever happened to the desperate
search for the second terrorist right after they snatched up McVeigh ?

Well maybe now we are going to find out if there was a Muslim
connection to the big blast that killed all those people in OKC !

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ON CAPITOL HILL
Congress to hold hearings into OKC bombing
Examining foreign connection to plot, including Arab terrorists

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Posted: June 9, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By J.D. Cash and Roger Charles
© 2006 McCurtain Daily Gazette

In what some on Capitol Hill are calling a surprising decision, Rep.
Henry Hyde, R-Ill., has given the nod for hearings into the
long-debated question of whether those responsible for the bombing of
the Oklahoma City federal building had help from any foreign source.

Spurred to action by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., Hyde has given
Rohrabacher's Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the House
International Relations Committee the wide-ranging authority to conduct
interviews and subpoena documents related to the April 19, 1995,
terrorist attack that left 168 dead, 19 of them children.

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ON CAPITOL HILL
Congress to hold hearings into OKC bombing
Examining foreign connection to plot, including Arab terrorists

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Posted: June 9, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By J.D. Cash and Roger Charles
© 2006 McCurtain Daily Gazette

In what some on Capitol Hill are calling a surprising decision, Rep.
Henry Hyde, R-Ill., has given the nod for hearings into the
long-debated question of whether those responsible for the bombing of
the Oklahoma City federal building had help from any foreign source.

Spurred to action by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., Hyde has given
Rohrabacher's Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the House
International Relations Committee the wide-ranging authority to conduct
interviews and subpoena documents related to the April 19, 1995,
terrorist attack that left 168 dead, 19 of them children.


Interviewed Wednesday, Rohrabacher confirmed that his nearly
two-year-long personal investigation into the Oklahoma City tragedy had
finally received the necessary support for an official congressional
investigation.

"Congressman Hyde has approved my request for hearings into the OKC
bombing. The congressional investigation will be limited to our area of
focus, which is whether there was a foreign connection to the
conspiracy," Rohrabacher explained.

"I think we know what we're looking for and I expect complete
cooperation from the witnesses we call and the agencies we look to for
documents."

Rohrabacher then emphasized his office would keep the public informed
about the level of cooperation his subcommittee receives during the
official phase of the investigation.

"I must be able to assure the families of the victims of this horrible
crime that their government cooperated with our investigation," the
congressman said. "That is very important to our oversight
responsibilities."

Arab terrorist link?

Forecasting the areas of particular interest the congressional
investigation could take, Rohrabacher promised to look carefully for
any evidence linking the cabal to Arab terrorists and or to a German
national in this country illegally in 1995, Andreas Carl Strassmeir.

In his letter seeking authority for hearings, Rohrabacher wrote: "It is
highly likely that the Arab connection and/or the Strassmeir connection
played a significant role in the planning and execution of the
murderous bombing of the OKC federal building. In both possible
scenarios, the official investigation fell short and further
investigation has been discouraged ever since."

Specifically, Rohrabacher said that Terry Nichols' trips to the
Philippines would be examined for links to a theory that he was
actually meeting with Middle East radicals who were providing him with
support.

"I also will call witnesses who say they saw (convicted conspirator
Timothy) McVeigh with Arabs in Oklahoma City," he told this newspaper.

Elohim City connection

Rohrabacher also noted that much of the investigation would focus on a
spate of documents recently unearthed during a Freedom of Information
lawsuit in Salt Lake City, Utah.

While attempting to piece together evidence in the mysterious death of
his inmate-brother in August of 1995 at the Oklahoma City Federal
Transfer Center, attorney Jesse Trentadue has sued the Oklahoma City
FBI office for documents that might shed light on the inmate's bizarre
demise while locked up in a suicide-proof cell.

While the documents obtained in the suit have been heavily redacted,
they do appear to link Strassmeir to a foiled "sting operation"
involving the federal government, McVeigh, the Southern Poverty Law
Center, and the Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy.

In possession of those documents as well, Rohrabacher said he and his
staff are convinced there are important facts about the bombing hidden
under by the FBI's redactions and he wants un-redacted copies for his
staff to examine.

Among the witnesses the committee intends to call is Danny Coulson.

Coulson was one of five FBI commanders assigned the original
investigation into the bombing. Only a few weeks into the case, though,
all five suddenly were removed to make room for Danny Defenbaugh.

Still harboring doubts about the FBI's official version of the bombing
case, that only McVeigh and Nichols were largely responsible for the
crime, Coulson said today, "I'm very much in favor of this
investigation by Congress. We need to look very closely at why the five
FBI commanders originally assigned the case were pulled off."

"The FBI needs to answer to the Congress why they shut down their own
investigation into Strassmeir and Elohim City. Why did their total
investigation into Strasssmeir consist of two ASUSAs (assistant United
States Attorneys) calling Strassmeir's flat in Berlin a couple of
times? He never should have been allowed to leave here without a more
thorough series of interviews, face-to-face, by FBI agents trained in
those skills."

Long a subject of interest by this paper, Strassmeir's name only began
to circulate in the media months after the bombing, when this newspaper
discovered that he was the person McVeigh was calling at a terrorist
training camp in eastern Oklahoma, called Elohim City.

Months later, the newspaper reported the former German military officer
was being closely monitored by the Tulsa office of Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco and Firearms.

Only weeks before the bombing, the BATF had learned Strassmeir was
working with others on a plot to bomb a federal building in Oklahoma
City. However, the FBI stepped in to thwart his arrest when the BATF
sought an arrest warrant from the Tulsa U.S. attorney's office.

Several months ago a judge in Salt Lake City ordered the FBI to turn
over to Trentadue documents indicating there were informants at Elohim
City at the time of the bombing that worked for a private charity -
the Southern Poverty Law Center, or SPLC.

According to those teletypes, SPLC informants were present at Elohim
City April 17 when McVeigh contacted the compound, looking for
additional help in the bomb plot.

However, the FBI blacked out much of the person's name with whom
then-FBI Director Louis Freeh said McVeigh was closely associated. In
the past, the FBI vehemently has denied McVeigh had any close
associates at the camp.

Strassmeir was the compound's paramilitary instructor from 1993 until
August of 1995.

Since the bombing, over a half-dozen of Strassmeir's associates at
Elohim City have gone to prison for bank robbery, conspiracy to
overthrow the government and murder. None, however, were ever charged
in the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.

Strassmeir left the United States in early 1996. In one of the
teletypes issued by Freeh, the director appeared to know where
Strassmeir was staying in the U.S. and of plans Strassmeir was making
to return to Germany through Mexico.

Days after Freeh's memo was issued, Strassmeir did indeed cross the
Mexican border and make his way to Berlin with the assistance of former
CIA pilot Dave Holloway.

Neither Holloway nor his associate, attorney Kirk Lyons of North
Carolina - who paid for the pair's trip - were ever charged with
aiding Strassmeir's flight. At the time of Strassmeir's escape, he was
listed as an illegal overstay by the INS and wanted by the ATF for
illegally carrying a firearm in the U.S.

Believing him to be "armed and dangerous" at the time, the OKBOMB task
force even contacted the INS and asked that Strassmeir be stopped at
the border and held for questioning in the bombing case. This was the
same week Freeh told several offices Strassmeir was staying in North
Carolina with Lyons.

Safely back in Germany for many weeks, it was only after Strassmeir's
name was linked to McVeigh by this newspaper and others that two
Justice Department lawyers in Denver called Strassmeir in Berlin,
twice, to ask about any contacts he may have had with McVeigh and the
bombing.

During those brief interviews, Strassmeir admitted over the phone that
he may have met McVeigh at a gun show in Tulsa once, but he also
assured prosecutors he did not help with the bomb plot.

In the wake of the tragedy, the FBI had available several
well-qualified commanders with extensive experience in major case
investigations to lead and complete the investigation.

However, a man with much less investigative experience, Danny
Defenbaugh, replaced the original five experienced FBI commanders who
initially had been assigned to the case.

With the original five commanders off the OKBOMB case, considerable
criticism has since been leveled at the job Defenbaugh did while
heading up the FBI's most expensive investigation in U.S. history.

In spite of two dozen eyewitnesses that placed McVeigh with others in
downtown Oklahoma City that day and $85 million that was spent putting
together a case that sent two men to jail and one to the death chamber,
only McVeigh and army buddy Terry Nichols were charged. Also
imprisoned, Michael Fortier admitted his involvement in the conspiracy
and agreed to cooperate with the FBI in return for a lighter sentence.

Jurors in both cases in Denver, plus a grand jury in Oklahoma City,
said they doubted the FBI had gotten everyone involved.

In 2001, more than 4,000 pages of FBI interviews and other evidence
never shown the defense teams for McVeigh or Nichols were discovered on
the eve of McVeigh's execution.

The discovery caused McVeigh's execution to be put on hold and the
fiasco quickly led to the sudden resignation of Defenbaugh.

Beyond a congressional investigation, Coulson believes the magnitude of
the tragic attack that left 168 dead and 500 injured also warrants the
appointment of an experienced federal prosecutor to look into all of
the evidence and the use of a federal grand jury to facilitate the
investigation.

"Based upon my investigation following the bombing of the Murrah
building on April 19, 1995, and these new documents from the FBI turned
up in the Utah case, it's clear to me further investigation is
required," he said.

Referring to the documents uncovered during the FOIA lawsuit and the
large number of witnesses the FBI interviewed after the bombing that
placed McVeigh in the company of others at key points in the
conspiracy, Coulson observed, "The totality of this information very
strongly indicates there are others involved and not charged who were
involved at least in conspiratorial acts.

"Families of victims and the American people deserve answers to many
unanswered questions," he said.

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