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Date: 15 Jan 2007 11:56:34 AM
Object: Wesley Clark says Iran invasion being pushed by Israel and NY money people
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/dc-notes-wes-clark-is-_b_37837.html
At the packed-to-the-rafters brunch preceding Nancy Pelosi's formal
swearing in, Melinda and I ran into Wes Clark (and I mean that
literally; like I said, it was packed). Clark was really angry about
what he'd read in this column by UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de
Borchgrave. In the piece, which Clark quickly forwarded to my
BlackBerry from his Trio, de Borchgrave details Bibi Netanyahu leading
the charge to lobby the Bush administration to take out Iran's nuclear
facilities, and paints U.S. air strikes against Iran in 2007/08 as
all-but-a-done deal.
"How can you talk about bombing a country when you won't even talk to
them?" said Clark. "It's outrageous. We're the United States of
America; we don't do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the
military option is off the table -- but diplomacy is not what Jim Baker
says it is. It's not, What will it take for you boys to support us on
Iraq? It's sitting down for a couple of days and talking about our
families and our hopes, and building relationships."
When we asked him what made him so sure the Bush administration was
headed in this direction, he replied: "You just have to read what's in
the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided but there is so much
pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office
seekers."
At one point Melinda reminded him that she was taking down everything
he said (a fact that would have been hard to miss, since she was taking
notes on a not-inconspicuous legal pad). His response: 'Yes, I know."
For Clark, this is the biggest foreign policy issue facing the U.S.
"I'm worried about the surge," he said. "But I'm worried about this
even more."
.

User: "lanman"

Title: Re: Wesley Clark says Iran invasion being pushed by Israel and NY money people 15 Jan 2007 05:45:23 PM
On 15 Jan 2007 09:56:34 -0800, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/dc-notes-wes-clark-is-_b_37837.html

At the packed-to-the-rafters brunch preceding Nancy Pelosi's formal
swearing in, Melinda and I ran into Wes Clark (and I mean that
literally; like I said, it was packed). Clark was really angry about
what he'd read in this column by UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de
Borchgrave. In the piece, which Clark quickly forwarded to my
BlackBerry from his Trio, de Borchgrave details Bibi Netanyahu leading
the charge to lobby the Bush administration to take out Iran's nuclear
facilities, and paints U.S. air strikes against Iran in 2007/08 as
all-but-a-done deal.

"How can you talk about bombing a country when you won't even talk to
them?" said Clark. "It's outrageous. We're the United States of
America; we don't do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the
military option is off the table -- but diplomacy is not what Jim Baker
says it is. It's not, What will it take for you boys to support us on
Iraq? It's sitting down for a couple of days and talking about our
families and our hopes, and building relationships."

When we asked him what made him so sure the Bush administration was
headed in this direction, he replied: "You just have to read what's in
the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided but there is so much
pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office
seekers."

Is this disgruntled wannabe running for office again? As an
ex-general, we know he knows better, so it must be political
posturing.
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User: "can_o_worms"

Title: Re: Wesley Clark says Iran invasion being pushed by Israel and NY money people 16 Jan 2007 08:45:02 AM
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:45:23 -0800, lanman <xlanmanx@aol.com> wrote:

On 15 Jan 2007 09:56:34 -0800, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/dc-notes-wes-clark-is-_b_37837.html

At the packed-to-the-rafters brunch preceding Nancy Pelosi's formal
swearing in, Melinda and I ran into Wes Clark (and I mean that
literally; like I said, it was packed). Clark was really angry about
what he'd read in this column by UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de
Borchgrave. In the piece, which Clark quickly forwarded to my
BlackBerry from his Trio, de Borchgrave details Bibi Netanyahu leading
the charge to lobby the Bush administration to take out Iran's nuclear
facilities, and paints U.S. air strikes against Iran in 2007/08 as
all-but-a-done deal.

"How can you talk about bombing a country when you won't even talk to
them?" said Clark. "It's outrageous. We're the United States of
America; we don't do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the
military option is off the table -- but diplomacy is not what Jim Baker
says it is. It's not, What will it take for you boys to support us on
Iraq? It's sitting down for a couple of days and talking about our
families and our hopes, and building relationships."

When we asked him what made him so sure the Bush administration was
headed in this direction, he replied: "You just have to read what's in
the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided but there is so much
pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office
seekers."


Is this disgruntled wannabe running for office again? As an
ex-general, we know he knows better, so it must be political
posturing.

Perhaps he's sharing some of that "vast sums of money
from Arab sources" that you said "buys a pro-Arab view"
from Carter......or perhaps he takes issue with withholding
relevant information from the people who fight wars for this
country.....and even lying to them, perhaps.
excerpt from a related article:
http://www.today.az/news/politics/34565.html
By Michael Carmichael, Global Research
In a stark statement published on Saturday Brigadier
General Oded Tira observed, "President Bush lacks the
political power to attack Iran. As an American strike
in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help
him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party
(which is conducting itself foolishly) and US newspaper
editors. We need to do this in order to turn the
Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the
Iraq failure."
Because of the dramatic loss of political power of the
Bush-Cheney administration, General Tira urges the
Israel Lobby to, "turn to Hillary Clinton and other
potential presidential candidates in the Democratic
Party so that they support immediate action by Bush
against Iran."
In another move designed to strengthen Bush
politically, General Tira urges the Israel Lobby to
exert its influence on European countries so that,
"Bush will not be isolated in the international arena
again."
(end of excerpt)
********
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User: "Well Done"

Title: Re: Wesley Clark says Iran invasion being pushed by Israel and NY money people 16 Jan 2007 02:54:08 PM
can_o_worms <can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote:

Perhaps he's sharing some of that "vast sums of money
from Arab sources" that you said "buys a pro-Arab view"
from Carter......or perhaps he takes issue with withholding
relevant information from the people who fight wars for this
country.....and even lying to them, perhaps.

Carter's views aren't so much pro-Arab as they are pro-any dictator
you care to name. Wesley Clark is full of ***** and is one of the
folks the criminal Sandy Berger was protecting when he stole documents
from the people of the U. S.
The U. S. has no plans for Iran - the proof of that is how much
***** comes from the left saying the U. S. DOES have plans for
Iran. It's like the talk of a draft - the Bush admin. has no plans
for a draft, but Demmy dummies like you keep saying they do.
--
): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" :(
(: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net :)
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User: "can_o_worms"

Title: Re: Wesley Clark says Iran invasion being pushed by Israel and NY money people 16 Jan 2007 07:26:22 PM
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:54:08 -0800, Well Done <WellDone@WellHoned.com>
wrote:

can_o_worms <can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/dc-notes-wes-clark-is-_b_37837.html

At the packed-to-the-rafters brunch preceding Nancy Pelosi's formal
swearing in, Melinda and I ran into Wes Clark (and I mean that
literally; like I said, it was packed). Clark was really angry about
what he'd read in this column by UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de
Borchgrave. In the piece, which Clark quickly forwarded to my
BlackBerry from his Trio, de Borchgrave details Bibi Netanyahu leading
the charge to lobby the Bush administration to take out Iran's nuclear
facilities, and paints U.S. air strikes against Iran in 2007/08 as
all-but-a-done deal.

"How can you talk about bombing a country when you won't even talk to
them?" said Clark. "It's outrageous. We're the United States of
America; we don't do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the
military option is off the table -- but diplomacy is not what Jim Baker
says it is. It's not, What will it take for you boys to support us on
Iraq? It's sitting down for a couple of days and talking about our
families and our hopes, and building relationships."

When we asked him what made him so sure the Bush administration was
headed in this direction, he replied: "You just have to read what's in
the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided but there is so much
pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office
seekers."


Is this disgruntled wannabe running for office again? As an
ex-general, we know he knows better, so it must be political
posturing.

Perhaps he's sharing some of that "vast sums of money
from Arab sources" that you said "buys a pro-Arab view"
from Carter......or perhaps he takes issue with withholding
relevant information from the people who fight wars for this
country.....and even lying to them, perhaps.

Carter's views aren't so much pro-Arab as they are pro-any dictator
you care to name.

The "pro-Arab" reference was purposefully facetious on my part.
The reason U.S. Presidents are on speaking terms with Dictators
is because that's who they deal with.

Wesley Clark is full of *****

Not about efforts waged by the Israel lobby and it's
supporters. Clark hasn't said anything I didn't already
know but I appreciate his patriotism in saying it.
I used to think he was a Clinton stalking horse for the
purpose of diffusing Dean's antiwar campaign but he
turns out to be more real than Dean after all.

and is one of the
folks the criminal Sandy Berger was protecting when he stole documents
from the people of the U. S.

That's a speculation on your part. I don't keep up with what
classified documents that Berger stole but: If you haven't
seen the documents you don't know why he stole them.


The U. S. has no plans for Iran - the proof of that is how much
***** comes from the left saying the U. S. DOES have plans for
Iran.

I don't hear the Democrat party focusing on Iran. I hear
Libertarians and Greens talking more than most Democrats.
What I hear is Democrats focusing on Iraq while supporting
an attack on Iran. They don't stick it to their constituents by
doing so for no reason......The real possibilities for attacking
Iran are evidenced by Democrat's kowtowing to the notion
of an attack such as that of DNC chair Howard Dean and
"antiwar" candidate Barack Obama just to name two.
Joe Biden has said he won't support it but hasn't written it
down in a resolution and he's only one of a very few that
has said anything negative about an attack on Iran.

It's like the talk of a draft - the Bush admin. has no plans
for a draft,

I never said neoCONs were stupid enough to start up the
draft for Operation Safer Tel Aviv.

but Demmy dummies like you keep saying they do.

Actually I've only voted Democrat in one general election
and one caucus since '72.......Both are proving to be mistakes.


excerpt from a related article:

http://www.today.az/news/politics/34565.html

By Michael Carmichael, Global Research

In a stark statement published on Saturday Brigadier
General Oded Tira observed, "President Bush lacks the
political power to attack Iran. As an American strike
in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help
him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party
(which is conducting itself foolishly) and US newspaper
editors. We need to do this in order to turn the
Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the
Iraq failure."

Because of the dramatic loss of political power of the
Bush-Cheney administration, General Tira urges the
Israel Lobby to, "turn to Hillary Clinton and other
potential presidential candidates in the Democratic
Party so that they support immediate action by Bush
against Iran."

In another move designed to strengthen Bush
politically, General Tira urges the Israel Lobby to
exert its influence on European countries so that,
"Bush will not be isolated in the international arena
again."

(end of excerpt)

--
Recent legislation sponsored by the
"American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran.
No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
***************
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 105
H R 282 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 26-Apr-2006
BILL TITLE: To hold the current regime in Iran
accountable for its threatening behavior and to
support a transition to democracy in Iran
YEAS 397
Too numerous to list but include Democrats Jack Murtha,
John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee,
and Lynn Woolsey.
NAYS 21
Tammy Baldwin - Dem
Earl Blumenauer - Dem
Allen Boyd - Dem
Peter DeFazio - Dem
John J. Duncan - Rep
Jeff Flake - Rep
John Hostettler - Rep
Walter B. Jones (NC) - Rep
Dennis Kucinich - Dem
Jim Leach - Rep
Jim McDermott - Dem
Jim McGovern - Dem
Cynthia McKinney - Dem
Jim Oberstar - Dem
Dave Obey - Dem
John Olver - Dem
Ron Paul - Rep
Nick Rahall - Dem
Vic Snyder - Dem
Pete Stark - Dem
Gene Taylor (MS) - Dem
********
Did I mention that this legislation was sponsored by
the "American Israel Public Affairs Committee"
to effect an eventual regime change in Iran ?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll105.xml
No energy lobbies pushing this legislation.
.





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