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User:	""
Date:	15 May 2006 12:03:19 PM
Object:	WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?

As I was watching the West Wing finale last night, I was thinking to
myself: 'Those people have cool jobs.' Secretary of State. Press
Secretary. Presidential advisors. Et cetera.
How does one go about getting that type of job in national or State
government?
..
I have a friend who works for a PA senator handling phone calls from
citizens, and when I asked him how he got the job, he just said, "I was
a student intern and moved up from there." Since I'm not a student, I
can not follow that path. What other alternatives exist?
Degree in public policy? Degree in political science? Law?
Thanks for your help/advice,
Troy Heagy
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User: "Ken from Chicago"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 03:13:43 PM

<Troy.Heagy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As I was watching the West Wing finale last night, I was thinking to
myself: 'Those people have cool jobs.' Secretary of State. Press
Secretary. Presidential advisors. Et cetera.

How does one go about getting that type of job in national or State
government?

.

I have a friend who works for a PA senator handling phone calls from
citizens, and when I asked him how he got the job, he just said, "I was
a student intern and moved up from there." Since I'm not a student, I
can not follow that path. What other alternatives exist?

Degree in public policy? Degree in political science? Law?

Thanks for your help/advice,
Troy Heagy

Be a zillionaire, or know a bunch.
-- Ken from Chicago
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User: "abracadabra"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 03:00:22 PM

<Troy.Heagy@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147712599.458614.13780@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Probably get politically active when you're young, work for campaigns, do
the grunt work and make your way up the ladder. Rove started out in the
College Republicans - interestingly they seem to raise in rank by trying to
label their opponents as "fags" and that seems to be how they run national
campaigns as well.
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User: "record hunter"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 05:47:44 PM

1. Know someone
2. Blow someone (but don't tell your boss or your best friends)
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User: "karl"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 05:51:16 PM

"record hunter" <record.hunter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147733264.409935.180980@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

1. Know someone

2. Blow someone (but don't tell your boss or your best friends)

3. Buy someone.
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User: "RichA"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	16 May 2006 12:49:28 PM

But Lewinsky never rose above intern, right? So the b.j. doesn't
always work.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	21 May 2006 09:40:12 PM

RichA wrote:

But Lewinsky never rose above intern, right? So the b.j. doesn't
always work.

How can you say that after she became host of Mr. Personality?!?!
.

User: "ANIM8Rfsk"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	22 May 2006 01:02:09 AM

in article 1148265612.050697.313000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,

wrote on 5/21/06 7:40 PM:

RichA wrote:

But Lewinsky never rose above intern, right? So the b.j. doesn't
always work.

How can you say that after she became host of Mr. Personality?!?!

IIRC she got a high paying job upon leaving the White House that a White
House staffer arranged, and a lot of people thought was hush money. It only
lasted 6 months or so though.
.

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Title: The New Right and Anarcho Capitalism	24 May 2006 09:55:57 PM

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User: ""
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	22 May 2006 06:25:37 PM

ANIM8Rfsk wrote:

in article 1148265612.050697.313000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,

wrote on 5/21/06 7:40 PM:

RichA wrote:

But Lewinsky never rose above intern, right? So the b.j. doesn't
always work.

How can you say that after she became host of Mr. Personality?!?!

IIRC she got a high paying job upon leaving the White House that a White
House staffer arranged, and a lot of people thought was hush money. It only
lasted 6 months or so though.

Yes, if I'm not mistaken it was at Revlon, the cosmetics company.
.

User: "ANIM8Rfsk"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	22 May 2006 06:41:37 PM

in article 1148340337.012519.294270@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,

wrote on 5/22/06 4:25 PM:

ANIM8Rfsk wrote:

in article 1148265612.050697.313000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,

wrote on 5/21/06 7:40 PM:

RichA wrote:

But Lewinsky never rose above intern, right? So the b.j. doesn't
always work.

How can you say that after she became host of Mr. Personality?!?!

IIRC she got a high paying job upon leaving the White House that a White
House staffer arranged, and a lot of people thought was hush money. It only
lasted 6 months or so though.

Yes, if I'm not mistaken it was at Revlon, the cosmetics company.

Ah. I'm not sure I ever heard where it was; always figured it was something
more closely government related.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	23 May 2006 09:22:07 PM

ANIM8Rfsk wrote:

in article 1148340337.012519.294270@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,

wrote on 5/22/06 4:25 PM:

Yes, if I'm not mistaken it was at Revlon, the cosmetics company.

Ah. I'm not sure I ever heard where it was; always figured it was something
more closely government related.

Here's a linke from the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/job013198.htm
Quote:
"Lewinsky on Jan. 13 received a letter of great value to her own
future: Revlon, which had granted her a job interview at the urging of
Clinton's friend Vernon E. Jordan Jr., was offering her just the kind
of corporate job in New York she had been trying to land for months."
.

User: ""
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	22 May 2006 11:12:44 AM

Here's the breakdown for Bush's cabinet:
-ph.d. poli sci
-masters - poli sci
-b.s. poli sci
-b.s. poli sci / masters- education administration / law
-(3) law degress
-ph.d economics / law
-(2) mba
-b.s. economics/business
-ph.d. chemical engineering
-navy officer/administrative assistant/congress/promoted to the cabinet
There doesn't seem to be any one specific area, although political
science, law, and business are clearly the most popular fields for
these Cabinet members. WOW. Don't these people have a life? They
must have spent the first 30 years of their lives doing nothing but
studying, studying, studying. Truly amazing.
..
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User: "Osiris88"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 05:58:12 PM

wrote:

As I was watching the West Wing finale last night, I was thinking to
myself: 'Those people have cool jobs.' Secretary of State. Press
Secretary. Presidential advisors. Et cetera.

How does one go about getting that type of job in national or State
government?

.

I have a friend who works for a PA senator handling phone calls from
citizens, and when I asked him how he got the job, he just said, "I was
a student intern and moved up from there." Since I'm not a student, I
can not follow that path. What other alternatives exist?

Degree in public policy? Degree in political science? Law?

Thanks for your help/advice,
Troy Heagy

Get a degree in something that would matter to your party's future.
For example, economics, foreign policy/international relations,
political science, etc. At the same time, try to volunteer for
whichever party you like, and get that expereince as well. At the
start it might be work like putting up signs or distributing flyers but
you can work your way up. That's a great way to make contacts and when
you get the opportunity, speak up and tell whomever that you'd like to
work for them, and keep reminding them every now then (whithout
bothering them, of course, they are busy). With some luck you might
find your way in.
Be prepared for some frustration here or there. A lot of voters
don't want to hear it, when you go door to door, and you may even find
some bad apples in your own party, in the group you're trying to work
with.
Good luck.
.

User: ""
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	16 May 2006 11:16:43 AM

EXCELLENT advice. Especially the part about economics. I never
thought of that, but it makes perfect sense since the government
collects money, spends it, and tries to boost the economy as much as
possible.
President Bartlet on the tv show has a degree in economics. Also a
Nobel prize. Did he have degrees in anything else?
You mentioned bad apples.
I already found one. He was corrupt with power, so he sat on a
Maryland Welfare bill, refusing to let it come up for vote (meaning
hungry/homeless people would lose their checks). Why? Simply because
he could.
He was working for the other party (democrats), which surprised me. I
always thought democrats were in favor of handing out money to the
needy. To see one refusing to release a welfare bill was a shocker.
Fortunately the republican & democratic legislators organized as one
team & forced the guy to release the Welfare bill out of committee.
..
Osiris88 wrote:

Get a degree in something that would matter to your party's future.
For example, economics, foreign policy/international relations,
political science, etc. At the same time, try to volunteer for
whichever party you like, and get that expereince as well.
Speak up and tell whomever that you'd like to
work for them, and keep reminding them every now then (whithout
bothering them, of course, they are busy).

User: "Osiris88"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	22 May 2006 01:12:58 AM

wrote:

EXCELLENT advice. Especially the part about economics. I never
thought of that, but it makes perfect sense since the government
collects money, spends it, and tries to boost the economy as much as
possible.

President Bartlet on the tv show has a degree in economics. Also a
Nobel prize. Did he have degrees in anything else?

You mentioned bad apples.

I already found one. He was corrupt with power, so he sat on a
Maryland Welfare bill, refusing to let it come up for vote (meaning
hungry/homeless people would lose their checks). Why? Simply because
he could.

He was working for the other party (democrats), which surprised me. I
always thought democrats were in favor of handing out money to the
needy. To see one refusing to release a welfare bill was a shocker.
Fortunately the republican & democratic legislators organized as one
team & forced the guy to release the Welfare bill out of committee.

I'm a Democrat and I always cringe when I see my own guys playing
politics in the manner you suggested. I'm sure you know that both
sides have bad apples. A lot of the time, though, you may see people
voting against their own platform because a particular bill is
connected to pork or other legislation that is not agreeable.

.

Osiris88 wrote:

Get a degree in something that would matter to your party's future.
For example, economics, foreign policy/international relations,
political science, etc. At the same time, try to volunteer for
whichever party you like, and get that expereince as well.
Speak up and tell whomever that you'd like to
work for them, and keep reminding them every now then (whithout
bothering them, of course, they are busy).

User: "Gary S. Simon"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	21 May 2006 04:31:10 PM

In article <1147796203.427814.234170@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"videonovels@yahoo.com" <videonovels@yahoo.com> wrote:

President Bartlet on the tv show has a degree in economics. Also a
Nobel prize. Did he have degrees in anything else?

I have a vague recollection that Bartlet once made reference to
something his Civil Procedure professor had said. I can't imagine
anyone taking Civil Procedure outside of law school.
.

User: "ANIM8Rfsk"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	21 May 2006 07:14:54 PM

in article garscosi-B0D578.17340221052006@news.west.earthlink.net, Gary S.
Simon at

wrote on 5/21/06 2:31 PM:

In article <1147796203.427814.234170@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"videonovels@yahoo.com" <videonovels@yahoo.com> wrote:

President Bartlet on the tv show has a degree in economics. Also a
Nobel prize. Did he have degrees in anything else?

I have a vague recollection that Bartlet once made reference to
something his Civil Procedure professor had said. I can't imagine
anyone taking Civil Procedure outside of law school.

Didn't he once say, in a meeting in the oval office, "we're ALL lawyers
here"?
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User: "Pat Farrell"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	21 May 2006 08:09:40 PM

ANIM8Rfsk wrote:

Didn't he once say, in a meeting in the oval office, "we're ALL lawyers
here"?

I'm pretty sure Josh said that to Sam before they went up
to meet the hanging investigator about Leo's drinking.
--
Pat
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User: "theget"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 06:03:26 PM

wrote:

As I was watching the West Wing finale last night, I was thinking to
myself: 'Those people have cool jobs.' Secretary of State. Press
Secretary. Presidential advisors. Et cetera.

How does one go about getting that type of job in national or State
government?

.

I have a friend who works for a PA senator handling phone calls from
citizens, and when I asked him how he got the job, he just said, "I was
a student intern and moved up from there." Since I'm not a student, I
can not follow that path. What other alternatives exist?

Degree in public policy? Degree in political science? Law?

Thanks for your help/advice,
Troy Heagy

I think you might enjoy reading Robert Heinlein's Take Back Your
Government, http://www.wegrokit.com/take_back_your_government.htm
A how to for the best game ever invented for adults. And the best part
is, everyone plays even if they really don't want to, and even if they
think they're not playing.
HTH,
Theget
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User: "Chris"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 12:20:54 PM

In this administration you just have to know somebody so if you want to be
Secretary of Treasury cashier at Ralph's is good enough.
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User: "BTR1701"
Title: Re: WEST WING - how do I get a job like that?	15 May 2006 12:23:30 PM

In article <WL2ag.72518$F_3.71519@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
"Chris" <chrissiciliano@sbcglobal.net> wrote: