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Date: 04 Mar 2006 12:34:52 PM
Object: What could have Bush Done?
With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for sure
where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of decisions
made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know the ones who
decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level safety standards but
instead on sports facilities and partying....
Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All the
while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own disaster
preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed for cover....
"IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......
Right......
Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill cover
for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...
LN
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news
AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland Security
chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could breach levees in
New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an Aug. 28 briefing.
The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a levee
rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that Bush was
warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than the levees
breaking.
The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the levees
could be overrun.
It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that Michael
Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said Bush had
asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate in that briefing.
.

User: "Randy Cox"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 01:03:40 PM
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually look
at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.
Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.
How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?
How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How 'bout
a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How 'bout that
well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that trade
imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How 'bout
that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors got
baffling confusion and snake oil?
How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one, and
the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would believe
anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always be some
skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could grasp and
say, "Aha! Look at this!"
He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New Orleans!
You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess is still
there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there squatting in
destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering at closed service
stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of Americans that are also
there but not getting paid a fair market price. FREE MARKET my *****! Bush
is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON and works to get wages down by
importing security threats from open borders. American Jazz will soon have
a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change the Name of Bourbon Street to
Tequila Street.
You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers of
light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical". Continuing
to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.
You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when Bush
took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption, and
less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.
Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of Enron
that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence of
that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions they
squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other reason that
creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had of not
being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of Energy by
their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the advantages they
had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make the war in Iraq work.
They can screw up............but they can't hide!
They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so many
people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.
Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the end
of your well deserved journey.
Randy R. Cox
.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 04:27:01 PM
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<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

What did klinton do wring concerning Osama?

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

No


How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it?

Every economist alive says the economy was headed for the shitter before
Bush took office.
How 'bout

a war for WMD that didn't exist?

Klinton said they did, but since there was nothing in it for him personally,
he let Saddam get away with not keeping his end of the cease fire agreement.
How 'bout the torture?
What about it, a couple of privates got carried away, Bush had them
punnished.
How 'bout that

well deserved low opinion the world has of us?

How about the world kiss our *****.
How 'bout that trade

imbalance?

Wasn't it Klinton that signed NAFTA?
How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers?
leakage?
How 'bout

that prescription drug program?.

Yes we have one now, that Klinton could not get done, even with his wife
heading up the program.
We paid for it, but the seniors got

baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut.

Liar
He is a liar!
You are a liar, or a fool that drinks the dumb-o-rat kool ade

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User: "Republicans in Agony"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 07:06:12 PM
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in
office.......but it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush.
Clinton wasn't on vacation.


What did klinton do wring concerning Osama?

Clinton got laid and made hay.
Bush didn't get laid and destroyed America.
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User: "Genaro"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 08:58:08 PM
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to
sell that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than
shrill cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of
politicians and bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay
anymore attention than Bush does. From the first day he took
office, he began making terrible decisions. People like you were so
sure he was the right man for the job.....only now the best of you
are beginning to actually look at the results. Everything
bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in
office.......but it didn't work. It only worked under George W.
Bush. Clinton wasn't on vacation.


What did klinton do wring concerning Osama?


Clinton got laid and made hay.
Bush didn't get laid and destroyed America.

---------------
Translation: Clinton committed adultery and was impeached for lying under
oath about it, (not to mention sticking his stinky finger through the TV
and lying to all of us about it).
Bush takes his happily married life seriously and has protected America
from further attacks since 9/11, (despite attempts by the NY Times to
jeopardize national security.)
Genaro----------
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User: "Wayne H. Wilhelm"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? On Katrina 06 Mar 2006 11:53:47 AM
"Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net> wrote in message
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

The above paragraph is right on the mark. Yet RC posted the following:

You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

For starters: "Everything bad... you blame on someone else."
What I'm looking for involves supposition, rumor, speculation,
mis-direction, theory, hypothesis, guess, assumption, opiinion, impression,
belief...
For RC, everything bad he blames on Bush. How many times in the past
decade have rivers / dams overflowed causing massive flooding? It's a
seasonal occurence and we take such things in stride. In 1999, Hurricane
Floyd resulted in the worst flooding in 500 years with levees failing. FEMA
was equally slow then in responding to the massive flooding. Was Clinton
blamed for FEMA's slow response? No.
http://www.answers.com/topic/hurricane-floyd
Bush was informed the levees might overflow. He was not told they were in
such bad shape that they would burst. He was told it was a concern, not
that it was imminent. Such a thing is always a concern. Even then, Bush
would have left it to local officials and to the U.S. Army Corps of
Engineers to monitor the situation.
We had such a conern here locally (Tuscarawas County, Ohio) during the
winter of 2004/2005, before Katrina. After substantial local rains
(abnormal in the middle of winter in Ohio), officials closed area dams to
protect Marietta, Ohio, over 70 miles away. Officials were concerned Dover
Dam might burst. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was on hand observing the
situation. National media was on hand just in case they did burst.
Satellite trucks abounded. The Dam didn't burst. In our case, what really
gets my gull is that all of the local flooding was man-made by blocking the
natural flow of water to protect a city an hours drive away. This in the
middle of winter stranding whole communities in sub-zero weather. People
were in danger of freezing to death. The decisions were made by local
officials and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. We didn't blame Bush for
it.
A bridge I normally cross on my 13 mile drive to work sits aprox. 12 to 15
feet above a large creek. When the area dams were closed, that small creek
(barely 20 feet wide) rose to a height 4 feet above the bridge and covered
thousands of acres of land. The town of Zoar, Ohio became an isolated
Island with a massive forzen lake leaving ice 15 feet high on trees. When
the dams were finally opened, 10's of thousands of trees had limbs broken
off due to the weight of ice left by the receding waters. Was Bush at
fault? I don't think so.
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=9&ID=202177&r=0
http://www.lrh-wc.usace.army.mil/wc/flood2005.html
In N.O., the Red Cross was on the scene ready to distribute supplies. Yet
the local government refused to allow the supplies to be distributed within
N.O. because they wanted the refugees to leave N.O..When Louisiana Gov.
Kathleen Blanco finally relented and requested national guard assistance to
stabilize the violence in N.O., the national guard locked the city up, not
letting anyone leave. Local officials refused to allow aid in hoping the
refugees would leave and, in order to control the violence, the national
guard refused to allow anyone to leave to keep the violence from spreading
to other local communities..
The conflict of interests at the local level caused the disaster that
followed. That was Bush's fault? Did local officials adhere to their own
disaster plans? 100's of school buses were never utilized to assist in the
evacuation because local officials didn't have anyone capable of driving
them. Was that Bush's fault?
(supposition) Fact is, the busses weren't used for evacuation because of
local bureaucratic red tape and conflict of interest. Local officials
didn't want to foot the bill and said, "Ah, we'll deal with those who are
left behind when it's all over." Problem is, local officials never dreamed
the levees would actually collapse. They knew it was a potential; they
didn't actually believe it would happen. That was Bush's fault?
In years prior to Katrina, the federal government authorized millions of
dollars to ensure the levees were kept in a stable condition. Why weren't
the levees maintained? Did the state of Louisiana and N.O. local officials
mis-direct those funds? That was Bush's fault?

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How
'bout a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How 'bout
that well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that trade
imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How
'bout that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors
got baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one,
and the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would
believe anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always
be some skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could
grasp and say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New
Orleans! You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess
is still there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there
squatting in destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering at
closed service stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of
Americans that are also there but not getting paid a fair market price.
FREE MARKET my *****! Bush is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON and
works to get wages down by importing security threats from open borders.
American Jazz will soon have a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change the
Name of Bourbon Street to Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers of
light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical". Continuing
to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when Bush
took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption,
and less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of Enron
that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence of
that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions
they squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other reason
that creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had of
not being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of
Energy by their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the
advantages they had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make the
war in Iraq work. They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so many
people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the
end of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox



.

User: "r"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 01:39:53 PM
Don't waste your time on flamer needham, he is just another *****
pulling down the gene pool.
The only effort you should expend on needham is adding him to the kill
filter group on your newsreader.
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:03:40 -0600, "Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net>
wrote:


<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually look
at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How 'bout
a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How 'bout that
well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that trade
imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How 'bout
that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors got
baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one, and
the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would believe
anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always be some
skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could grasp and
say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New Orleans!
You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess is still
there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there squatting in
destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering at closed service
stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of Americans that are also
there but not getting paid a fair market price. FREE MARKET my *****! Bush
is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON and works to get wages down by
importing security threats from open borders. American Jazz will soon have
a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change the Name of Bourbon Street to
Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers of
light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical". Continuing
to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when Bush
took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption, and
less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of Enron
that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence of
that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions they
squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other reason that
creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had of not
being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of Energy by
their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the advantages they
had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make the war in Iraq work.
They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so many
people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the end
of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox


.

User: "Wayne H. Wilhelm"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 01:22:45 PM
Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the initials,
RC.
"Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net> wrote in message
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<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How
'bout a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How 'bout
that well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that trade
imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How
'bout that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors
got baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one,
and the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would
believe anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always
be some skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could
grasp and say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New
Orleans! You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess
is still there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there
squatting in destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering at
closed service stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of
Americans that are also there but not getting paid a fair market price.
FREE MARKET my *****! Bush is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON and
works to get wages down by importing security threats from open borders.
American Jazz will soon have a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change the
Name of Bourbon Street to Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers of
light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical". Continuing
to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when Bush
took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption,
and less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of Enron
that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence of
that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions
they squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other reason
that creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had of
not being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of
Energy by their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the
advantages they had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make the
war in Iraq work. They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so many
people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the
end of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox



.
User: "Roy Blankenship"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 02:20:42 AM
"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <doremewayne@quadracalc.com> wrote in message
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Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the

initials,

RC.

Randy just told it EXACTLY as it is, and all you can do is call him a dunce.
You can't refute one thing he said, can you?

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<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to

sell

that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the

right

man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in

office.......but

it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How
'bout a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How

'bout

that well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that

trade

imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How
'bout that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors
got baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one,
and the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would
believe anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always
be some skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could
grasp and say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New
Orleans! You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess
is still there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there
squatting in destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering

at

closed service stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of
Americans that are also there but not getting paid a fair market price.
FREE MARKET my *****! Bush is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON

and

works to get wages down by importing security threats from open borders.
American Jazz will soon have a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change

the

Name of Bourbon Street to Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers

of

light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical".

Continuing

to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when

Bush

took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption,
and less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of

Enron

that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence

of

that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions
they squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other

reason

that creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had

of

not being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of
Energy by their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the
advantages they had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make

the

war in Iraq work. They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so

many

people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the
end of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox





.
User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 10:33:35 AM
Roy Blankenship wrote:

"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <doremewayne@quadracalc.com> wrote in message
news:9OlOf.964$9I5.134@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...

Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the


initials,

RC.



Randy just told it EXACTLY as it is, and all you can do is call him a dunce.
You can't refute one thing he said, can you?

That was painfully obvious.

"Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:120jp5u52vaqj19@corp.supernews.com...

<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to


sell

that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the


right

man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in


office.......but

it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How
'bout a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How


'bout

that well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that


trade

imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How
'bout that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors
got baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one,
and the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would
believe anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always
be some skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could
grasp and say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New
Orleans! You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess
is still there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there
squatting in destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering


at

closed service stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of
Americans that are also there but not getting paid a fair market price.
FREE MARKET my *****! Bush is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON


and

works to get wages down by importing security threats from open borders.
American Jazz will soon have a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change


the

Name of Bourbon Street to Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers


of

light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical".


Continuing

to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when


Bush

took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption,
and less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of


Enron

that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence


of

that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions
they squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other


reason

that creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had


of

not being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of
Energy by their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the
advantages they had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make


the

war in Iraq work. They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so


many

people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the
end of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox







--
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do,
because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
- Susan B. Anthony, 1896
.


User: "Republicans in Agony"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 07:05:13 PM
"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <doremewayne@quadracalc.com> wrote in message
news:9OlOf.964$9I5.134@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...

Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the
initials,

That's pretty unfair, even for a Traitor like you, Comrade.
.
User: "Wayne H. Wilhelm"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 06 Mar 2006 09:39:11 AM
"Republicans in Agony" <xxwww@Ezra.net> wrote in message
news:dPqOf.56367$dW3.8266@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...


"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <doremewayne@quadracalc.com> wrote in message
news:9OlOf.964$9I5.134@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...

Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the
initials,


That's pretty unfair, even for a Traitor like you, Comrade.

The intent was that of a slap in the fact with a white glove:
Some do it with finesse. Some don't. If I fail to respond adequately, then
I will have proven to all that it is I who am the 'dunce'.
Aaron Burr / Alexander Hamilton: A duel to the death.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/duel/peopleevents/pande01.html
Historically, a duel was initiated with a white glove.
In this newsgroup, the weapon of choice is: the pen.
In this newsgroup, the duel is initiated with remarks of the following
nature:
comment from "Tempest"
Or are you always in the habit of committing libel, *****-stain?
comment from "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia"
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
comment from "tomaxo@aol.com"
implied I have my ditto-shill head up my *****.
I thank "A Brick in the Wall"
for keeping my name on the top of the list for the "Dumbest Poster of the
Year Award" for 2006.
Coment from "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE"
Ya know. You are really really stupid.
"needham@syix.com" comes close to doing it with style...
"Allowing delusions of grandeur be yours, is mine.
Still it notable that you never caught on to the point which I *****-slapped
back upsides that moron's face, laffs. Your lack thereof of intellectual
prowess in and of itself exposes you as being incapable of comprehending a
simple rhetorical parody projected in reverse, a cutsie way in showing one
how ignorant their rhetoric really appears to others.
And BTW, I rarely give "benefit of doubt" because for one, in your case
above it allowed me to expose you for the intellectual weakling you are....
LN"
Comment from "Stinky" keeps it simple with:
"This coming from the butt-buddy of a President who doesn't like to read
and needs pictures and ***** explained to him while he stares off into
space. LOL"
Now for the rebuttal: See next post.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 06 Mar 2006 10:17:36 AM
Wayne H. Wilhelm wrote:

"Republicans in Agony" <xxwww@Ezra.net> wrote in message
news:dPqOf.56367$dW3.8266@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...


"Wayne H. Wilhelm" <doremewayne@quadracalc.com> wrote in message
news:9OlOf.964$9I5.134@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...

Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the
initials,


That's pretty unfair, even for a Traitor like you, Comrade.


The intent was that of a slap in the fact with a white glove:

Some do it with finesse. Some don't. If I fail to respond adequately, then
I will have proven to all that it is I who am the 'dunce'.

Aaron Burr / Alexander Hamilton: A duel to the death.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/duel/peopleevents/pande01.html
Historically, a duel was initiated with a white glove.

In this newsgroup, the weapon of choice is: the pen.


In this newsgroup, the duel is initiated with remarks of the following
nature:

comment from "Tempest"
Or are you always in the habit of committing libel, *****-stain?

comment from "GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia"
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.

comment from "tomaxo@aol.com"
implied I have my ditto-shill head up my *****.

How funny you would hide your brave-mouthery in a discussion I hadn't
posted to.
Let's revisit the discussion you ran away from with such cowardice, but
now refer to as a victory (while hiding in a different discussion, of
course):
(linked for reference)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/f894cdef3ba6b415?dmode=source&hl=en
(Wayne sniffled:)

According to the liberals, if any terrorists originates from a nation (they
all come from somewhere), then no company in that nation should be allowed
to control any US port.

(To which Tomaxo replied:)
What a hillariously hysterical mis-interpretation of a very simple
distinction. Let me help you out by clarifying it for you:
Those who are against the deal (be them "Liberals", "Conservatives" or,
simply people without their ditto-shill heads up their asses) are
simply against giving operational control of our ports to THE
GOVERNMENTS of nations that have recently actively supported
organizations dedicated to our destruction (i.e. Al Qaeda, the Taliban,
etc.), as has THE GOVERNMENT of Dubai.
(Wayne whimpered:)

The problem with this liberal logic is very simple:
Every country, including the United States of America, has one or more
terrorists originating from there. By the liberals own logic, not even a US
based company should be allowed to have a cotrolling interest of any US
port.

(To which Tomaxo replied:)
Dear Ditto-Shill, do you REALLY think anyone above the intelligence of
a cow is going to follow the twisted logic you are trying to spin?
Thanks God you will soon be run out of control of our government as
America awakens to your complete incompetence regarding our national
security.


I thank "A Brick in the Wall"
for keeping my name on the top of the list for the "Dumbest Poster of the
Year Award" for 2006.

Coment from "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE"
Ya know. You are really really stupid.



"needham@syix.com" comes close to doing it with style...

"Allowing delusions of grandeur be yours, is mine.

Still it notable that you never caught on to the point which I *****-slapped
back upsides that moron's face, laffs. Your lack thereof of intellectual
prowess in and of itself exposes you as being incapable of comprehending a
simple rhetorical parody projected in reverse, a cutsie way in showing one
how ignorant their rhetoric really appears to others.

And BTW, I rarely give "benefit of doubt" because for one, in your case
above it allowed me to expose you for the intellectual weakling you are....

LN"

Comment from "Stinky" keeps it simple with:
"This coming from the butt-buddy of a President who doesn't like to read
and needs pictures and ***** explained to him while he stares off into
space. LOL"

Now for the rebuttal: See next post.

Oh we are all just terrified by what your wrath might bring
(snicker)!!!!
.



User: "Jeff"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 07:38:04 AM
Wayne H. Wilhelm wrote:

Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the initials,
RC.

My God, what strong reasoning skills you have.
That's the same tactic W uses. It's too hard, don't want to reason it
out so we'll attack the messenger.
That's worked out well so far, but there are two flaws in that.
1) There's getting to be too many messengers.
2) The flaws are so bad that they are obvious to anyone with even
slightly more reasoning power than you have.
Frankly, it's my belief that W will always hold your confidence in him!
Cheers,
Jeff


"Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:120jp5u52vaqj19@corp.supernews.com...

<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How
'bout a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How 'bout
that well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that trade
imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How
'bout that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors
got baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one,
and the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would
believe anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always
be some skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could
grasp and say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New
Orleans! You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess
is still there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there
squatting in destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering at
closed service stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of
Americans that are also there but not getting paid a fair market price.
FREE MARKET my *****! Bush is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON and
works to get wages down by importing security threats from open borders.
American Jazz will soon have a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change the
Name of Bourbon Street to Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers of
light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical". Continuing
to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when Bush
took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption,
and less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of Enron
that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence of
that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions
they squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other reason
that creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had of
not being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of
Energy by their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the
advantages they had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make the
war in Iraq work. They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so many
people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the
end of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox






.

User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 02:02:05 PM
Wayne H. Wilhelm wrote:

Let me see. Randy Cox. How do you spell 'dunce'. Hint: use the initials,
RC.

You must have been home schooled.
R.C. spells dunce.
Jesus Christ, are we ever in trouble as a nation.

"Randy Cox" <randd49@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:120jp5u52vaqj19@corp.supernews.com...

<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...


You don't know anything! We know....you don't! You don't pay anymore
attention than Bush does. From the first day he took office, he began
making terrible decisions. People like you were so sure he was the right
man for the job.....only now the best of you are beginning to actually
look at the results. Everything bad....you blame on someone else.

Osama attacked the World Trade Center when Clinton was in office.......but
it didn't work. It only worked under George W. Bush. Clinton wasn't on
vacation.

How 'bout them oil prices.....two residents from Texas, both oil men, in
office. That wouldn't be their fault would it?

How 'bout that deficit? That wouldn't be Bush's fault would it? How
'bout a war for WMD that didn't exist? How 'bout the torture? How 'bout
that well deserved low opinion the world has of us? How 'bout that trade
imbalance? How 'bout the leakage in the Social Security coffers? How
'bout that prescription drug program?. We paid for it, but the seniors
got baffling confusion and snake oil?

How about all the cuts in those programs that Bush said he
championed..........but cut. He is a liar! He was a liar from day one,
and the lies just got bigger and bigger as he saw people like you would
believe anything he said regardless of the evidence. There would always
be some skimpy shred of news story that got misconstrued that you could
grasp and say, "Aha! Look at this!"

He really had a vision for job outsourcing didn't he? Go visit New
Orleans! You people have spent billions and all incompetently! The mess
is still there. Bush invited the illegal work force and they are there
squatting in destroyed homes. You can see them every morning gathering at
closed service stations taking jobs, and driving down the wages of
Americans that are also there but not getting paid a fair market price.
FREE MARKET my *****! Bush is a protects profits of outfits like ENRON and
works to get wages down by importing security threats from open borders.
American Jazz will soon have a Salsa flavor and they'll have to change the
Name of Bourbon Street to Tequila Street.

You are not just wrong about this little post of yours. This is not your
first time to have tunnel vision. You continue to pick a few glimmers of
light reflecting from the darkness and declare them "typical". Continuing
to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is
INSANITY.

You have nearly ruined our country! Nothing is better now than when Bush
took over. We have more enemies, more debt, more hate, more corruption,
and less hope than I can remember in my lifetime.

Bush nearly destroyed California by refusing to stop the thieves of Enron
that had weaseled themselves into positions of extortion. The evidence of
that is all over the place. Enron was a chain letter and the billions
they squeezed from California by shutting down plants for no other reason
that creating shortages to drive up prices was the only chance they had of
not being found out until Ken Lay could be installed as Secretary of
Energy by their bought and paid for George WE. Bush. With all the
advantages they had, they couldn't make that work. They couldn't make the
war in Iraq work. They can screw up............but they can't hide!

They can only screw up so badly and for so long because there are so many
people like you..........but THANK GOD it is the nature of lemmings to
eventually drown in the sea.

Take a deep breath and enjoy your free fall. You are very close to the
end of your well deserved journey.

Randy R. Cox






--
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do,
because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
- Susan B. Anthony, 1896
.



User: "Joe S."

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 01:40:11 PM
<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for
sure where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of
decisions made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know the
ones who decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level safety
standards but instead on sports facilities and partying....

Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All
the while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own
disaster preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed for
cover.... "IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......

Right......

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

LN

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news



AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland Security
chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could breach levees
in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an Aug. 28 briefing.

The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a
levee rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that Bush
was warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than the
levees breaking.



The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the levees
could be overrun.

It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that Michael
Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said Bush had
asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate in that
briefing.




What could Bush have done?
He could have kept his ***** hands off FEMA.
When FEMA was formed during the Carter administration, Carter established
three rules:
1. FEMA would always be headed by someone with extensive emergency response
experience.
2. FEMA would always be fully funded.
3. FEMA would always report directly to the President and would never be
subordinated to another department or agency.
Bush violated every one of these rules with the result that FEMA was
underfunded, understaffed, and handcuffed because every decision had to go
from FEMA to Dept of Homeland Stupidity then back to FEMA.
And if you really want to know the facts, you need to dig out the
Congressional testimony of the FEMA director who preceded "You're doing a
heckuva job" Brown. He testified that the best thing that could happen to
FEMA would be to shut it down. In fact, he described FEMA as a "government
employee entitlement program."
What's your next ignorant question?
.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 09:03:49 PM
"Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote in message
news:7_mdnTS1K9KbcJTZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...


<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for
sure where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of
decisions made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know
the ones who decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level
safety standards but instead on sports facilities and partying....

Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All
the while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own
disaster preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed for
cover.... "IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......

Right......

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

LN

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news



AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland
Security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could
breach levees in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an
Aug. 28 briefing.

The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a
levee rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that Bush
was warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than the
levees breaking.



The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the
levees could be overrun.

It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that
Michael Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said
Bush had asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate in
that briefing.





What could Bush have done?

He could have kept his ***** hands off FEMA.

When FEMA was formed during the Carter administration, Carter established
three rules:
1. FEMA would always be headed by someone with extensive emergency
response experience.
2. FEMA would always be fully funded.
3. FEMA would always report directly to the President and would never be
subordinated to another department or agency.

Bush violated every one of these rules with the result that FEMA was
underfunded, understaffed, and handcuffed because every decision had to go
from FEMA to Dept of Homeland Stupidity then back to FEMA.

And if you really want to know the facts, you need to dig out the
Congressional testimony of the FEMA director who preceded "You're doing a
heckuva job" Brown. He testified that the best thing that could happen to
FEMA would be to shut it down. In fact, he described FEMA as a
"government employee entitlement program."

What's your next ignorant question?

Only the head of FEMA said he did not go through Homeland Security, he did
not use the chain of command. And you can't point to anything that happen or
did not happen due to lack of funds so my next question is, Why do you fell
like you have to lie, isn't your argument strong enough to stand by the
truth?
.
User: "Joe S."

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 05:13:02 AM
"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote in message
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<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for
sure where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of
decisions made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know
the ones who decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level
safety standards but instead on sports facilities and partying....

Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All
the while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own
disaster preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed
for cover.... "IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......

Right......

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

LN

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news



AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland
Security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could
breach levees in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an
Aug. 28 briefing.

The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a
levee rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that Bush
was warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than the
levees breaking.



The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the
levees could be overrun.

It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that
Michael Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency,
said Bush had asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate
in that briefing.





What could Bush have done?

He could have kept his ***** hands off FEMA.

When FEMA was formed during the Carter administration, Carter established
three rules:
1. FEMA would always be headed by someone with extensive emergency
response experience.
2. FEMA would always be fully funded.
3. FEMA would always report directly to the President and would never be
subordinated to another department or agency.

Bush violated every one of these rules with the result that FEMA was
underfunded, understaffed, and handcuffed because every decision had to
go from FEMA to Dept of Homeland Stupidity then back to FEMA.

And if you really want to know the facts, you need to dig out the
Congressional testimony of the FEMA director who preceded "You're doing a
heckuva job" Brown. He testified that the best thing that could happen
to FEMA would be to shut it down. In fact, he described FEMA as a
"government employee entitlement program."

What's your next ignorant question?


Only the head of FEMA said he did not go through Homeland Security, he did
not use the chain of command. And you can't point to anything that happen
or did not happen due to lack of funds so my next question is, Why do you
fell like you have to lie, isn't your argument strong enough to stand by
the truth?


The former head of FEMA stated that he went directly to the White House out
of desperation AFTER he got no response by going through his chain of
command. And he got no response from the White House.
Why do you feel the need to lie?? It's clear that you can't read very well
and you have zero ability to comprehend what you read.
.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 11:04:48 AM
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote in message
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<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for
sure where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of
decisions made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know
the ones who decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level
safety standards but instead on sports facilities and partying....

Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All
the while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own
disaster preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed
for cover.... "IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......

Right......

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to
sell that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than
shrill cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of
politicians and bureaucrats.... hope typical...

LN

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news



AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland
Security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could
breach levees in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an
Aug. 28 briefing.

The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a
levee rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that
Bush was warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than
the levees breaking.



The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the
levees could be overrun.

It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that
Michael Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency,
said Bush had asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate
in that briefing.





What could Bush have done?

He could have kept his ***** hands off FEMA.

When FEMA was formed during the Carter administration, Carter
established three rules:
1. FEMA would always be headed by someone with extensive emergency
response experience.
2. FEMA would always be fully funded.
3. FEMA would always report directly to the President and would never
be subordinated to another department or agency.

Bush violated every one of these rules with the result that FEMA was
underfunded, understaffed, and handcuffed because every decision had to
go from FEMA to Dept of Homeland Stupidity then back to FEMA.

And if you really want to know the facts, you need to dig out the
Congressional testimony of the FEMA director who preceded "You're doing
a heckuva job" Brown. He testified that the best thing that could
happen to FEMA would be to shut it down. In fact, he described FEMA as
a "government employee entitlement program."

What's your next ignorant question?


Only the head of FEMA said he did not go through Homeland Security, he
did not use the chain of command. And you can't point to anything that
happen or did not happen due to lack of funds so my next question is, Why
do you fell like you have to lie, isn't your argument strong enough to
stand by the truth?



The former head of FEMA stated that he went directly to the White House
out of desperation AFTER he got no response by going through his chain of
command. And he got no response from the White House.

That is a lie, he said he did not call them because he wanted to bypass the
red tape. Which would have been acceptable if it had worrked. But it did
not.
Some panel members said they were shocked by the dysfunction within the
Homeland Security Department during the disaster, specifically on why Brown
did not directly contact Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff when he
learned of the flooding reports. Sen. Robert Bennett, R-Utah, said he was
amazed that Brown said he wanted to cut through Homeland Security
bureaucracy and contact White House officials, rather than call Chertoff.
"That is a staggering statement," Bennett said.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0206/021006cdpm1.htm


Why do you feel the need to lie?? It's clear that you can't read very
well and you have zero ability to comprehend what you read.

You are lying, you comprehend the statment but decide to lie about it.
.


User: "Jeff"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 07:51:27 AM
Billy wrote:

"Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote in message
news:7_mdnTS1K9KbcJTZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...

<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for
sure where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of
decisions made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know
the ones who decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level
safety standards but instead on sports facilities and partying....

Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All
the while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own
disaster preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed for
cover.... "IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......

Right......

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

LN

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news



AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland
Security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could
breach levees in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an
Aug. 28 briefing.

The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a
levee rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that Bush
was warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than the
levees breaking.



The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the
levees could be overrun.

It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that
Michael Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said
Bush had asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate in
that briefing.





What could Bush have done?

He could have kept his ***** hands off FEMA.

When FEMA was formed during the Carter administration, Carter established
three rules:
1. FEMA would always be headed by someone with extensive emergency
response experience.
2. FEMA would always be fully funded.
3. FEMA would always report directly to the President and would never be
subordinated to another department or agency.

Bush violated every one of these rules with the result that FEMA was
underfunded, understaffed, and handcuffed because every decision had to go
from FEMA to Dept of Homeland Stupidity then back to FEMA.

And if you really want to know the facts, you need to dig out the
Congressional testimony of the FEMA director who preceded "You're doing a
heckuva job" Brown. He testified that the best thing that could happen to
FEMA would be to shut it down. In fact, he described FEMA as a
"government employee entitlement program."

What's your next ignorant question?



Only the head of FEMA said he did not go through Homeland Security, he did
not use the chain of command. And you can't point to anything that happen or
did not happen due to lack of funds so my next question is,

Do a little research. You'll find that priorities were shifted to
terrorists attacks and training for natural disasters was all but
eliminated. FEMA used to be a model agency, but it's been bleeding
experienced workers in droves because they were just fed up.
You might also note that the same major issues such as lack of
commuminication between agencies (we're talking hardware here) that was
so sharply pointed out by the 9/11 Commission had not been adressed 4
years later in Katrina.
Look up the follow up review by the the bipartisan 9/11 Commission
and you will see they gave failing or near failing grades to the
governments implementation of such changes.
The truth is out there if you just take the time to look. Frankly
that's a problem of your side, not looking and just taking some wing
nuts blathering for fact.
Jeff
Why do you fell

like you have to lie, isn't your argument strong enough to stand by the
truth?


.
User: "Billy"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 05 Mar 2006 11:13:56 AM
"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message
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Billy wrote:

"Joe S." <anon@mous.com> wrote in message
news:7_mdnTS1K9KbcJTZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...

<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
news:g5lOf.18766$2O6.11352@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for
sure where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of
decisions made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know
the ones who decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level
safety standards but instead on sports facilities and partying....

Oh that's right, Bush did call in advance ( about 2-days) the area a
disaster zone which cleared the way for advance aid to get started. All
the while, local officials and the state governor ignored their own
disaster preparedness plan, threw their hands in the air and screamed
for cover.... "IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT".......

Right......

Now we know the latest tizzy fit tirade the left has been trying to sell
that Bush knew the levees would fail is also nothing more than shrill
cover for decades of bad decisions by various layers of politicians and
bureaucrats.... hope typical...

LN

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/14015353.htm?source=rss&channel=thestate_news



AP clarifies story about Katrina, Bush
WASHINGTON - In a Wednesday story, The Associated Press reported that
federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his Homeland
Security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could
breach levees in New Orleans, citing confidential video footage of an
Aug. 28 briefing.

The Army Corps of Engineers considers a breach a hole developing in a
levee rather than an overrun. The story should have made clear that Bush
was warned about floodwaters overrunning the levees, rather than the
levees breaking.



The day before Katrina, Bush was told there were grave concerns the
levees could be overrun.

It wasn't until the next morning, as the storm made landfall, that
Michael Brown, then head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency,
said Bush had asked about reports of breaches. Bush did not participate
in that briefing.





What could Bush have done?

He could have kept his ***** hands off FEMA.

When FEMA was formed during the Carter administration, Carter established
three rules:
1. FEMA would always be headed by someone with extensive emergency
response experience.
2. FEMA would always be fully funded.
3. FEMA would always report directly to the President and would never be
subordinated to another department or agency.

Bush violated every one of these rules with the result that FEMA was
underfunded, understaffed, and handcuffed because every decision had to
go from FEMA to Dept of Homeland Stupidity then back to FEMA.

And if you really want to know the facts, you need to dig out the
Congressional testimony of the FEMA director who preceded "You're doing a
heckuva job" Brown. He testified that the best thing that could happen
to FEMA would be to shut it down. In fact, he described FEMA as a
"government employee entitlement program."

What's your next ignorant question?



Only the head of FEMA said he did not go through Homeland Security, he
did not use the chain of command. And you can't point to anything that
happen or did not happen due to lack of funds so my next question is,



Do a little research. You'll find that priorities were shifted to
terrorists attacks and training for natural disasters was all but
eliminated. FEMA used to be a model agency, but it's been bleeding
experienced workers in droves because they were just fed up.

FEMA was left to the states where it belongs, we do not want the federal
goverment to be able to declare a city or state under federal control.


You might also note that the same major issues such as lack of
commuminication between agencies (we're talking hardware here) that was so
sharply pointed out by the 9/11 Commission had not been adressed 4 years
later in Katrina.

The purpose of FEMA is to provide some fedreal assets to the states, not for
the federal government to take over a state.


Look up the follow up review by the the bipartisan 9/11 Commission and
you will see they gave failing or near failing grades to the governments
implementation of such changes.

The truth is out there if you just take the time to look. Frankly that's
a problem of your side, not looking and just taking some wing nuts
blathering for fact.

Look up the facts and you will know.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: GOVERNOR KATHLEEN BLANCO WAS THE REASON FOR SO MUCH TROUBLE 05 Mar 2006 10:34:05 PM
she is the one who stopped fema and even the red cross from doing their
job until it was too late. she is a democrat and she was playing
politics with peoples lives by not letting the republican led feds into
new orleans and parts of louisianna.
" No, you don't have to give up your rights just because we are at war
"............

.



User: "robw"

Title: Re: What could have Bush Done? 04 Mar 2006 01:02:21 PM
It was reported he asked no questions during the briefing.
None.
<needham@syix.com> wrote in message
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With a cat 5 hurricane bearing done on the gulf and no one knowing for

sure

where it would land, Bush bears all responsibility for decades of

decisions

made by many levels of bureaucrats and politicians. You know the ones who
decided NOT to spend moneys on infrastructure and level safet