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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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02 Sep 2006 01:40:45 PM |
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What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can’t keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
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| User: "What, Me Worry?" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
02 Sep 2006 07:35:02 PM |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eqjjf29nt96q1o10bu3g1r035gtg8hvlp8@4ax.com...
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
There are millions of Americans who keep government and trade secrets as
part of their job. Military officials, intelligence officials, CIA and NSA
agents - all of these people and many more are routinely exposed to secret
or classified information. Yet the military and intelligence agencies
continue to function. The nation is still able to maintain necessary
secrecy.
The mere fact that there *are* state secrets proves that large numbers of
Americans (in high-level positions) are able to keep a secret. You could
rightly call these actions a *conspiracy* to preserve state secrets. As
citizens, we must trust that our leaders won't abuse their ability to keep
important secrets from us.
We cannot trust the Bush Administration. Re-open the 9/11 investigations.
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| User: "Adam Albright" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
02 Sep 2006 04:28:42 PM |
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On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:35:02 -0500, "What, Me Worry?" <__@____.___>
wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eqjjf29nt96q1o10bu3g1r035gtg8hvlp8@4ax.com...
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
There are millions of Americans who keep government and trade secrets as
part of their job. Military officials, intelligence officials, CIA and NSA
agents - all of these people and many more are routinely exposed to secret
or classified information. Yet the military and intelligence agencies
continue to function. The nation is still able to maintain necessary
secrecy.
The mere fact that there *are* state secrets proves that large numbers of
Americans (in high-level positions) are able to keep a secret. You could
rightly call these actions a *conspiracy* to preserve state secrets. As
citizens, we must trust that our leaders won't abuse their ability to keep
important secrets from us.
We cannot trust the Bush Administration. Re-open the 9/11 investigations.
Like the Kennedy assissination the events leading up to and
immediately after 9/11 never have and never will fully see the light
of day, at least not in our lifetimes. Too damn embarrassing to the
administration and even to Democrats to spill the beans. If more
Americans knew how totally incompetent, next to useless and poorly
managed the military is when it comes to protecting and responding to
events effecting the security of the "homeland" there would be such a
uproar nobody currently in the executive branch or Congress would be
able to remain in office. Hundreds of heads would roll starting with
the idiot Bush for his disgraceful performance as commander-in-chief
and a total violation of his oath of office to protect the country.
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid. The
real issues is how fucked up does the government have to be to let the
entire country be defenseless? You would have thought we would have
learned our lesson after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor over half a
century ago, but as the events of 9/11 clearly showed we were no
better prepared or protected or aware of the risks then the country
was back then.
Remember back to when Reagan was shot? Al Haig said "As of now, I am
in control here in the White House" and took lots of flak for uttering
it. At least somebody realized the country was in crisis mode. With
Bush, the damn dumb fucking little monkey just sat there on stage with
a bunch of little kids doing nothing after being told the second plane
had slammed into the WTC. What was the ***** waiting for, for
somebody to next tell him Los Angles or Chicago just got struck with a
100 meagton H bomb?
What needs to be done, what MUST be done is a real, full scale
unbiased review of what happened that morning. No politics, no
attempted whitewash to sweep things under the rug. No *****
national security coverup. Somebody, actually lots of somebodys that
morning starting with Bush, fucked-up big time. The American people
as the employer of these incompetent fools have every right in fact a
duly to demand a full accounting of what happeneded and who fucked up
in a detailed minute by minute timeline as the events that morning
unfolded. Our future security depends on it.
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| User: "Eyeball Kid" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
03 Sep 2006 10:09:04 PM |
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In article <cjsjf21hie8pion07n3qngouisbvgoegs4@4ax.com>, Adam Albright
<AA@ABC.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:35:02 -0500, "What, Me Worry?" <__@____.___>
wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eqjjf29nt96q1o10bu3g1r035gtg8hvlp8@4ax.com...
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
There are millions of Americans who keep government and trade secrets as
part of their job. Military officials, intelligence officials, CIA and NSA
agents - all of these people and many more are routinely exposed to secret
or classified information. Yet the military and intelligence agencies
continue to function. The nation is still able to maintain necessary
secrecy.
The mere fact that there *are* state secrets proves that large numbers of
Americans (in high-level positions) are able to keep a secret. You could
rightly call these actions a *conspiracy* to preserve state secrets. As
citizens, we must trust that our leaders won't abuse their ability to keep
important secrets from us.
We cannot trust the Bush Administration. Re-open the 9/11 investigations.
Like the Kennedy assissination the events leading up to and
immediately after 9/11 never have and never will fully see the light
of day, at least not in our lifetimes. Too damn embarrassing to the
administration and even to Democrats to spill the beans. If more
Americans knew how totally incompetent, next to useless and poorly
managed the military is when it comes to protecting and responding to
events effecting the security of the "homeland" there would be such a
uproar nobody currently in the executive branch or Congress would be
able to remain in office. Hundreds of heads would roll starting with
the idiot Bush for his disgraceful performance as commander-in-chief
and a total violation of his oath of office to protect the country.
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
Stupid? It sounds like one of a few logical conclusions that could
easily be reached by noting the sequence of events that led to
extraordinary vulnerability, and WHO made those decisions in exactly
the sequence that occurred.
The
real issues is how fucked up does the government have to be to let the
entire country be defenseless?
Imagine how fucked up the government has to be to let the entire
country defensless, and you have the actual situation on 9/11. No one
has really asked anyone questions about why so many "air defense
drills" were held on that day. So many that there were only a handful
of fighter jet available to defend the entire eastern seaboard. And no
one has asked why people with connections to the Mossad were warning
their friends to stay away from the WTC on 9/11. And no one has gotten
a legitimate answer to where the CIA-funded Pakistani ISI got the
100,000 bucks to give to terrorists allegedly involved in 9/11 shortly
before the attacks.
You would have thought we would have
learned our lesson after the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor over half a
century ago, but as the events of 9/11 clearly showed we were no
better prepared or protected or aware of the risks then the country
was back then.
Rather, the statement should read, "We are no better prepared to
protect our country from lawlessness, treason, and corruption from
within. And we are no better at protecting our country from fascism
than Germany was in the 1930s.
E. K.
Remember back to when Reagan was shot? Al Haig said "As of now, I am
in control here in the White House" and took lots of flak for uttering
it. At least somebody realized the country was in crisis mode. With
Bush, the damn dumb fucking little monkey just sat there on stage with
a bunch of little kids doing nothing after being told the second plane
had slammed into the WTC. What was the ***** waiting for, for
somebody to next tell him Los Angles or Chicago just got struck with a
100 meagton H bomb?
What needs to be done, what MUST be done is a real, full scale
unbiased review of what happened that morning. No politics, no
attempted whitewash to sweep things under the rug. No *****
national security coverup. Somebody, actually lots of somebodys that
morning starting with Bush, fucked-up big time. The American people
as the employer of these incompetent fools have every right in fact a
duly to demand a full accounting of what happeneded and who fucked up
in a detailed minute by minute timeline as the events that morning
unfolded. Our future security depends on it.
--
"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
-- G.W. Bush, Gridiron Club dinner, Wash., D.C. March 2001
"I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and
ought to be encouraged." US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, 2004
"The American Way of Life is not negotiable." ***** Cheney, 2001
"The American Way of Life is heading for extinction." Eyeball Kid, 2006
Free humor. Whenever you want. http://www.psmueller.com
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| User: "Ray Turner" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
02 Sep 2006 05:10:47 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
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| User: "What, Me Worry?" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
02 Sep 2006 10:27:46 PM |
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"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
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| User: "visions of effty" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
02 Sep 2006 05:44:40 PM |
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"What, Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in message
news:aIadnaiprJT7mGfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@insightbb.com...
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary
explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying
to spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse.
I tend to agree. Incompetance? Embarassment?
Please!
There are much bigger things at stake than saving face.
Embarassing, maybe, but that's not whay people are keeping secrets. They
are keeping secrets because they have committed crimes!
I don't believe these people are incompetant or whatever for a moment. If
you look at their business lives and their stock portfolios and so on you
can see that they have their priorities straight, and they can keep track of
their own affairs. Cheney and Rumsfeld, for instance, have long careers in
many government and private posts. Then you look at the public sphere and
these guys suddenly become all thumbs? Um, no.
~e.
That's pure disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation
into specific culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got
the wrong guys. These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag
op. It's a typical Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are
upturned. Aw shucks. We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
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| User: "Ray Turner" |
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02 Sep 2006 07:42:56 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:27:46 -0500, What, Me Worry? wrote:
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill.
Maybe. But maybe not. Maybe he's one of those well-meaning-fools that
sit back an gobble up every bit of propaganda aimed at them.
I am certain that the government *is* involved in numerous propaganda
ploys and disinformation campaigns. The mainstream media is reporting as
much.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Absolutely correct. If you look at the tenant list for WTC7, you have to
realize that security would have been massively tight. There is
absolutely no way -- zero -- that terrorists could have placed those
explosives.
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| User: "Adam Albright" |
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02 Sep 2006 06:42:17 PM |
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On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 22:27:46 -0500, "What, Me Worry?" <__@____.___>
wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Show me anybody that believes in any conspicary theory that the
government blew up the WTC and I'll show you a fucking nut case.
Hint: You fool.
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| User: "* US *" |
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03 Sep 2006 07:21:18 AM |
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:42:17 -0500, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
Show me anybody that believes in any conspicary theory that the
government blew up the WTC and I'll show you a fucking nut case.
So, are you really sufficiently insane to believe
that "Operation Northwoods" never existed?
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| User: "Ray Turner" |
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02 Sep 2006 07:44:26 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:42:17 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
Show me anybody that believes in any conspicary theory that the
government blew up the WTC and I'll show you a fucking nut case.
Yeah, there are some fucking nutcases running around. How 'bout it
Albright, got your running shoes on??
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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04 Sep 2006 10:26:24 PM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Don't leave out israelis.
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| User: "Shrikeback" |
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04 Sep 2006 11:27:50 PM |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
What, Me Worry? wrote:
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Don't leave out israelis.
Don't leave out the Visitors either. For details, see:
"Cartman Gets an Anal Probe."
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| User: "Shrikeback" |
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03 Sep 2006 03:50:19 AM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Actually, it was sasquatch.
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| User: "What, Me Worry?" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
03 Sep 2006 03:55:24 PM |
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"Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157273419.691404.44280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was
brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary
explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a
explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not
to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events
that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying
to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a
typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw
shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Actually, it was sasquatch.
Your obsession with spreading disinformation proves that you are on the
defensive.
Continue your neocon death spiral.
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| User: "Shrikeback" |
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04 Sep 2006 12:08:43 PM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157273419.691404.44280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was
brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary
explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a
explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not
to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events
that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying
to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a
typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw
shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
Actually, it was sasquatch.
Your obsession with spreading disinformation proves that you are on the
defensive.
Your obsessive dismissal of the truth about sasquatch proves
that it is you and other apologists for the gummint propaganda
machine are on the defensive. It is also proof that sasquatch
is not disinformation.
Continue your neocon death spiral.
The neoconspiracy is on your sasquatch-denying side, I'm
afraid.
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03 Sep 2006 03:52:00 AM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
The truth is Out There, Scully.
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| User: "What, Me Worry?" |
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03 Sep 2006 03:57:03 PM |
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"Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157273520.136148.242420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was
brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary
explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a
explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not
to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events
that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying
to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a
typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw
shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
The truth is Out There, Scully.
The evidence to convict the real perps of 9/11 is locked away in classified
documents. Why did federal officials directly obstruct the most important
criminal case in the history of the United States? What is the penalty for
witholding key evidence from federal investigations?
Impeach.
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04 Sep 2006 12:11:30 PM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157273520.136148.242420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was
brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary
explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a
explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not
to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events
that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
I think Albright is a government disinfo shill. Why? Because he's trying
to
spread the "our government is so disorganized" ruse. That's pure
disinformation, designed to eliminate further investigation into specific
culpability. Hey, they're too DUMB to be guilty. You got the wrong guys.
These guys are too disorganized to pull off a false-flag op. It's a
typical
Bush-era ploy. Katrina, 9/11 - always the palms are upturned. Aw
shucks.
We goofed up again. Darn.
WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Foreign terrorists did not set and
explode those charges.
The truth is Out There, Scully.
The evidence to convict the real perps of 9/11 is locked away in classified
documents. Why did federal officials directly obstruct the most important
criminal case in the history of the United States?
Because they don't want us to know the aliens are here. If
the people knew the aliens were here and had converted to
Fundamentalist Islam, it would be all over for the feds.
What is the penalty for
witholding key evidence from federal investigations?
Eternity in a lake of fire.
Impeach.
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| User: "Erich" |
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02 Sep 2006 05:59:12 PM |
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In article <12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com>,
Ray Turner <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote:
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed. The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines. A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
A rather complete debunking of the paragraph above can be found here:
<http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1>
... Erich
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| User: "Ray Turner" |
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02 Sep 2006 07:35:13 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:59:12 -0600, Erich wrote:
A rather complete debunking of the paragraph above can be found here:
<http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1>
... Erich
It's an impressive website no doubt - but it's material is just as
subjective as any other. Definately not "complete debunking".
When the government refuses to release confiscated video, in my opinion,
that makes the scales balance in favor of people who doubt the honesty and
integrity of the official version of events. If the available video
backed the government position, it would already have been released.
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| User: "What, Me Worry?" |
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02 Sep 2006 11:38:32 PM |
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"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fk8eftapr1g28@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:59:12 -0600, Erich wrote:
A rather complete debunking of the paragraph above can be found here:
<http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1>
... Erich
It's an impressive website no doubt - but it's material is just as
subjective as any other. Definately not "complete debunking".
When the government refuses to release confiscated video, in my opinion,
that makes the scales balance in favor of people who doubt the honesty and
integrity of the official version of events. If the available video
backed the government position, it would already have been released.
Exactly.
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| User: "whofan" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
03 Sep 2006 09:20:01 PM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Ray Turner" <RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote in message
news:12fk8eftapr1g28@news.supernews.com...
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:59:12 -0600, Erich wrote:
A rather complete debunking of the paragraph above can be found here:
<http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1>
... Erich
It's an impressive website no doubt - but it's material is just as
subjective as any other. Definately not "complete debunking".
When the government refuses to release confiscated video, in my opinion,
that makes the scales balance in favor of people who doubt the honesty and
integrity of the official version of events. If the available video
backed the government position, it would already have been released.
Exactly.
And if the government did release this video, you kooks would claim that
it was "doctored" anyway....so why should they bother?
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| User: "Eyeball Kid" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
03 Sep 2006 10:30:51 PM |
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In article <12fjvvmamci9qbd@news.supernews.com>, Ray Turner
<RayTurner@coastline.org> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:28:42 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
This is not to suggest the government was involved. That's stupid.
That's exactly what they want you to believe. Fact is, WTC7 was brought
down by demolition. Period. That means WTC7 was wired with explosives
days, weeks or months in advance.
Large numbers of people at ground zero were reporting secondary explosions
in the twin towers. A janitor in the basement said there was a explosion
in the basement only seconds *before* the aircraft hit the top of the
building.
The hole in the pentagon was a perfect circle before the outer ring
collapsed.
If you're going to make an argument against the official narration, get
your facts straight. The ONLY photograph which shows the impact on the
outer ring of the Pentagon indicates a comparatively small rectangular
entry hole. The circular hole to which you're referring was caused by
an unknown projectile which apparently penetrated several walls and
exited through the third (C) ring.
The were zero signs of impact from the tail and wings, not to
mention the engines.
Nevertheless, the rest of your statement appears to have validity.
But most people from the 9/11 truth movement are not willing to take
your argument regarding Flight 77 as "proof" of deception, when it can
be demonstrated with evidence much easier to collect and observe.
Sticking with the strong fingerprints of the demolition of WTC7 really
sell the point.
E. K.
A retired general (Major General Stubblebine) who
was responsible for military photo analysis says that the damage to the
building are not the result of a 757 crash:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706General.htm
There are countless other parts of the government version of events that
simply don't hold water. This attack was not done by Arabs - make no
mistake about it -- this was a false flag operation by Washington.
--
"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
-- G.W. Bush, Gridiron Club dinner, Wash., D.C. March 2001
"I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and
ought to be encouraged." US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, 2004
"The American Way of Life is not negotiable." ***** Cheney, 2001
"The American Way of Life is heading for extinction." Eyeball Kid, 2006
Free humor. Whenever you want. http://www.psmueller.com
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| User: "Shrikeback" |
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03 Sep 2006 03:49:39 AM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eqjjf29nt96q1o10bu3g1r035gtg8hvlp8@4ax.com...
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
There are millions of Americans who keep government and trade secrets as
part of their job. Military officials, intelligence officials, CIA and NSA
agents - all of these people and many more are routinely exposed to secret
or classified information. Yet the military and intelligence agencies
continue to function. The nation is still able to maintain necessary
secrecy.
The mere fact that there *are* state secrets proves that large numbers of
Americans (in high-level positions) are able to keep a secret. You could
rightly call these actions a *conspiracy* to preserve state secrets. As
citizens, we must trust that our leaders won't abuse their ability to keep
important secrets from us.
We cannot trust the Bush Administration. Re-open the 9/11 investigations.
LOL. The black helicopters are going to get you for that.
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| User: "What, Me Worry?" |
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03 Sep 2006 03:54:13 PM |
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"Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157273379.323118.250310@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eqjjf29nt96q1o10bu3g1r035gtg8hvlp8@4ax.com...
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
There are millions of Americans who keep government and trade secrets as
part of their job. Military officials, intelligence officials, CIA and
NSA
agents - all of these people and many more are routinely exposed to
secret
or classified information. Yet the military and intelligence agencies
continue to function. The nation is still able to maintain necessary
secrecy.
The mere fact that there *are* state secrets proves that large numbers of
Americans (in high-level positions) are able to keep a secret. You could
rightly call these actions a *conspiracy* to preserve state secrets. As
citizens, we must trust that our leaders won't abuse their ability to
keep
important secrets from us.
We cannot trust the Bush Administration. Re-open the 9/11
investigations.
LOL. The black helicopters are going to get you for that.
You think political purges are funny, brownshirt?
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| User: "Shrikeback" |
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| Title: Re: What do 9-11 and the Manhattan Project have in common? |
04 Sep 2006 11:31:29 PM |
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What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157273379.323118.250310@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
What, Me Worry? wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eqjjf29nt96q1o10bu3g1r035gtg8hvlp8@4ax.com...
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
There are millions of Americans who keep government and trade secrets as
part of their job. Military officials, intelligence officials, CIA and
NSA
agents - all of these people and many more are routinely exposed to
secret
or classified information. Yet the military and intelligence agencies
continue to function. The nation is still able to maintain necessary
secrecy.
The mere fact that there *are* state secrets proves that large numbers of
Americans (in high-level positions) are able to keep a secret. You could
rightly call these actions a *conspiracy* to preserve state secrets. As
citizens, we must trust that our leaders won't abuse their ability to
keep
important secrets from us.
We cannot trust the Bush Administration. Re-open the 9/11
investigations.
LOL. The black helicopters are going to get you for that.
You think political purges are funny, brownshirt?
I think paranoid political loons are funny, my straight man
in a straightjacket.
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| User: "Its Americans OR Democrats" |
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04 Sep 2006 10:33:33 PM |
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
Barrie Zwicker, author of "Towers of Deception: The Media Coverup of
9-11" makes a good point here in this interview.
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0609182/cg182_Zwicker.shtml
(snip)
CG: If 9/11 were a conspiracy against the American people, it would
presumably require the involvement of hundreds, if not thousands of
people, to play their respective roles and maintain silence
afterwards. What do you say to critics who say people can't keep
secrets, and that something this big is bound to get out?
BZ: For one thing, I point to the Manhattan Project, in which the US
developed and then exploded the first atomic bomb. Conceived in 1939,
the Project, by its completion, involved 43,000 people at 37
facilities in 19 states and in Canada. It was kept entirely secret.
Sure. No one knew about the Manhattan Project. Go read some history
you moron.
As for the lying leftwing JEW Zwicker, it's too bad for us Hitler
didn't finish the job and gas the whole f------ lot of them.
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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07 Sep 2006 12:12:02 AM |
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It's Americans OR Democrats wrote:
Sure. No one knew about the Manhattan Project. Go read some history
you moron.
The general public had no idea of the MP and certainly the media never
talked about it. THINK
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