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13 Nov 2004 01:02:57 PM |
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What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
The military-industrial complex as defined by Republican President Dwight
Eisenhower, the last real Republican president.
One might even go so far as saying it is evidence of America's slide into
fascism as defined by the American Heritage Dictionary:
fascism: a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme
right, TYPICALLY THROUGH THE MERGING OF STATE AND BUSINESS LEADERSHIP,
together with a belligerent nationalism.
The American Heritage Dictionary
copyright 1973
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Published on Sunday, October 31, 2004 by the lndependent/UK
Key US Army Official Slams Bush Over Halliburton Iraq Contracts
by David Randall
One of the US Army's top procurement officers yesterday called the Bush
administration's grant of multibillion-dollar contracts to oil services
giant Halliburton "the worst case of contracting abuse she has ever seen".
Bunny Greenhouse, the Corps of Engineers chief contracting official, said:
"It was misconduct, and part of that misconduct was blatant." Her comments,
made in an interview on NBC's Nightly News program, came as US government
memos revealed that the Pentagon extended a Halliburton contract for 11
months beyond its expiration, despite warnings that the company was "out of
control" in its work providing troop support in the Balkans.
Ms Greenhouse has already demanded an investigation into the contracts that
last year were granted to Halliburton, the energy services firm run by Vice
President ***** Cheney from 1995-2000. According to her attorney, the FBI has
since asked her for an interview on the matter. The bureau has launched a
criminal investigation of the work. A spokesman for President Bush on Friday
said he expects a full investigation into allegations of wrongdoing in how
Iraq-related contracts were awarded to Halliburton.
Company spokeswoman Wendy Hall said earlier this week: "The old allegations
have once again been recycled, this time one week before the election." Ms
Greenhouse said she was not trying to influence the election. But she also
questioned the Pentagon's waiver of rules requiring Halliburton to justify
pricing for services after a government auditor found the company may have
overcharged by $61m for fuel. "It all favored Halliburton," she said.
Halliburton, which is already under investigation for overcharging for work
in Iraq, has been a target of Democratic criticism ahead of Tuesday's
election, with suggestions the Texas firm got special treatment because of
Mr Cheney. Ms Greenhouse vowed she was not alleging any impropriety by the
President or Vice President. "None whatsoever," she said.
As far as the Balkans is concerned, Ms Greenhouse complained to Lt Gen Carl
Strock, commander of the Army Corps of Engineers, that it should not have
halted plans to let companies compete for a successor Balkans contract.
Corps officials initially justified stopping bidding by concluding that a
"compelling emergency" would exist if Halliburton's work was interrupted.
But when she challenged the justification and sought an explanation of the
emergency, Corps officials changed their reasoning. The new explanation was
that Halliburton subsidiary KBR was the "one and only" company that could do
the job.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1031-02.htm
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Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush administration was warned
before the war that its Iraq claims were weak
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
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| User: "Rincewind" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
13 Nov 2004 01:45:00 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled something like
this:
They Knew...
Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush administration was warned
before the war that its Iraq claims were weak
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have seen, backed up
with plenty of reference links. A bit of a long read, so I don't suppose
many Dubya dupes will have the attention span to read it all, or take the
trouble to follow the links before crying 'lies damn lies'.
Rinso
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| User: "Rincewind" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
14 Nov 2004 05:59:52 AM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:15:59 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
this:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:58:43 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: this:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled something
: > : like this:
: >
: > : > They Knew...
: > : >
: > : > Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush administration
: > : > was warned before the war that its Iraq claims were weak
: > : >
: > : > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
: >
: > : Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have seen,
: > : backed up with plenty of reference links. A bit of a long read, so I
: > : don't suppose many Dubya dupes will have the attention span to read
: > : it all, or take the trouble to follow the links before crying 'lies
: > : damn lies'.
: >
: > There's nothing there worth reading. It's just a left wing kook site
: > for left wing kooks.
: So you didn't read it or follow the links to check the facts?
No need to go past www.inthesetimes.com.
Are you by any chance related to one of Pavlov's Dogs? I ask because I
detect conditioning here. Use Google if you don't understand the reference.
I would have thought that a sharp intelligent right wing dupe like you
would have been grateful for the opportunity to expose the inaccuracies,
misleading facts and lies contained on a left wing kook site for what they
are. So here is your opportunity to entertain this newsgroup further:
Take the trouble to read the link and list the incorrect or misleading
items. Failure to do so will be considered an admission that the article
is true in its entirety.
Rinso
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
14 Nov 2004 11:31:01 AM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:15:59 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: this:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:58:43 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: > : this:
: >
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled something
: > : > : like this:
: > : >
: > : > : > They Knew...
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush administration
: > : > : > was warned before the war that its Iraq claims were weak
: > : > : >
: > : > : > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
: > : >
: > : > : Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have seen,
: > : > : backed up with plenty of reference links. A bit of a long read, so I
: > : > : don't suppose many Dubya dupes will have the attention span to read
: > : > : it all, or take the trouble to follow the links before crying 'lies
: > : > : damn lies'.
: > : >
: > : > There's nothing there worth reading. It's just a left wing kook site
: > : > for left wing kooks.
: >
: > : So you didn't read it or follow the links to check the facts?
: >
: > No need to go past www.inthesetimes.com.
: Are you by any chance related to one of Pavlov's Dogs? I ask because I
: detect conditioning here. Use Google if you don't understand the reference.
: I would have thought that a sharp intelligent right wing dupe like you
: would have been grateful for the opportunity to expose the inaccuracies,
: misleading facts and lies contained on a left wing kook site for what they
: are. So here is your opportunity to entertain this newsgroup further:
: Take the trouble to read the link and list the incorrect or misleading
: items. Failure to do so will be considered an admission that the article
: is true in its entirety.
I have no desire to waste my time reading leftwing loser kook talk and a bunch
of leftwing kook sites. Not to many days ago you were quoting a left wing kook
article from a left wing kook site that claimed a quote from Rove admitting to
having cheated during the first debate.
I have a bit of advice for you that you will ignore. Just because something is
posted on a website doesn't mean that it's true. I know that you ignore that and
continue to follow the left wing kook sites and believe the left wing loser kook
talk there since it's what you want to hear and believe.
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Rincewind" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
14 Nov 2004 12:14:52 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:31:01 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
this:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:15:59 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: this:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:58:43 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something
: > : like this:
: >
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled
: > : > : something like this:
: > : >
: > : > : > They Knew...
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush
: > : > : > administration was warned before the war that its Iraq claims
: > : > : > were weak
: > : > : >
: > : > : > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
: > : >
: > : > : Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have seen,
: > : > : backed up with plenty of reference links. A bit of a long read,
: > : > : so I don't suppose many Dubya dupes will have the attention span
: > : > : to read it all, or take the trouble to follow the links before
: > : > : crying 'lies damn lies'.
: > : >
: > : > There's nothing there worth reading. It's just a left wing kook
: > : > site for left wing kooks.
: >
: > : So you didn't read it or follow the links to check the facts?
: >
: > No need to go past www.inthesetimes.com.
: Are you by any chance related to one of Pavlov's Dogs? I ask because I
: detect conditioning here. Use Google if you don't understand the
: reference.
: I would have thought that a sharp intelligent right wing dupe like you
: would have been grateful for the opportunity to expose the inaccuracies,
: misleading facts and lies contained on a left wing kook site for what
: they are. So here is your opportunity to entertain this newsgroup
: further:
: Take the trouble to read the link and list the incorrect or misleading
: items. Failure to do so will be considered an admission that the article
: is true in its entirety.
I have no desire to waste my time reading leftwing loser kook talk and a
bunch of leftwing kook sites. Not to many days ago you were quoting a left
wing kook article from a left wing kook site that claimed a quote from
Rove admitting to having cheated during the first debate.
Posted deliberately to rattle your cage and it worked!
I have a bit of advice for you that you will ignore. Just because
something is posted on a website doesn't mean that it's true. I know that
you ignore that and continue to follow the left wing kook sites and
believe the left wing loser kook talk there since it's what you want to
hear and believe.
So go visit the link and tell me which bits of the page are not true.
Failure to do so yet again will be considered a further admission that the
article is true in its entirety.
Rinso
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
15 Nov 2004 11:37:03 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:31:01 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: this:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:15:59 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: > : this:
: >
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:58:43 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something
: > : > : like this:
: > : >
: > : > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled
: > : > : > : something like this:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > They Knew...
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush
: > : > : > : > administration was warned before the war that its Iraq claims
: > : > : > : > were weak
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have seen,
: > : > : > : backed up with plenty of reference links. A bit of a long read,
: > : > : > : so I don't suppose many Dubya dupes will have the attention span
: > : > : > : to read it all, or take the trouble to follow the links before
: > : > : > : crying 'lies damn lies'.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > There's nothing there worth reading. It's just a left wing kook
: > : > : > site for left wing kooks.
: > : >
: > : > : So you didn't read it or follow the links to check the facts?
: > : >
: > : > No need to go past www.inthesetimes.com.
: >
: > : Are you by any chance related to one of Pavlov's Dogs? I ask because I
: > : detect conditioning here. Use Google if you don't understand the
: > : reference.
: >
: > : I would have thought that a sharp intelligent right wing dupe like you
: > : would have been grateful for the opportunity to expose the inaccuracies,
: > : misleading facts and lies contained on a left wing kook site for what
: > : they are. So here is your opportunity to entertain this newsgroup
: > : further:
: >
: > : Take the trouble to read the link and list the incorrect or misleading
: > : items. Failure to do so will be considered an admission that the article
: > : is true in its entirety.
: >
: > I have no desire to waste my time reading leftwing loser kook talk and a
: > bunch of leftwing kook sites. Not to many days ago you were quoting a left
: > wing kook article from a left wing kook site that claimed a quote from
: > Rove admitting to having cheated during the first debate.
: >
: Posted deliberately to rattle your cage and it worked!
Sure you did!
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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fwp@deepthought.com
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| User: "Rincewind" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
16 Nov 2004 05:59:52 AM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:37:03 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
this:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:31:01 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
: this:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:15:59 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something
: > : like this:
: >
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:58:43 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled
: > : > : something like this:
: > : >
: > : > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu>
: > : > : > wrote:
: > : > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled
: > : > : > : something like this:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > They Knew...
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush
: > : > : > : > administration was warned before the war that its Iraq
: > : > : > : > claims were weak
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have
: > : > : > : seen, backed up with plenty of reference links. A bit of a
: > : > : > : long read, so I don't suppose many Dubya dupes will have the
: > : > : > : attention span to read it all, or take the trouble to follow
: > : > : > : the links before crying 'lies damn lies'.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > There's nothing there worth reading. It's just a left wing
: > : > : > kook site for left wing kooks.
: > : >
: > : > : So you didn't read it or follow the links to check the facts?
: > : >
: > : > No need to go past www.inthesetimes.com.
: >
: > : Are you by any chance related to one of Pavlov's Dogs? I ask because
: > : I detect conditioning here. Use Google if you don't understand the
: > : reference.
: >
: > : I would have thought that a sharp intelligent right wing dupe like
: > : you would have been grateful for the opportunity to expose the
: > : inaccuracies, misleading facts and lies contained on a left wing
: > : kook site for what they are. So here is your opportunity to
: > : entertain this newsgroup further:
: >
: > : Take the trouble to read the link and list the incorrect or
: > : misleading items. Failure to do so will be considered an admission
: > : that the article is true in its entirety.
: >
: > I have no desire to waste my time reading leftwing loser kook talk and
: > a bunch of leftwing kook sites. Not to many days ago you were quoting
: > a left wing kook article from a left wing kook site that claimed a
: > quote from Rove admitting to having cheated during the first debate.
: >
: Posted deliberately to rattle your cage and it worked!
Sure you did!
So you can't find any inconsistencies in the above link.... I guess it
must be true then: Bush knew there were no WMD in Iraq.
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| User: "c-bee1" |
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| Title: Re: What do you have when politics and corporations combine? |
16 Nov 2004 07:55:49 AM |
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"Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.11.16.11.54.31.109373@unseen.edu...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:37:03 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something like
this:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:31:01 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something
like
: this:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote:
: > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:15:59 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled something
: > : like this:
: >
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu>
wrote:
: > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:58:43 -0600, Frank Pittel mumbled
: > : > : something like this:
: > : >
: > : > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Rincewind <rinso@unseen.edu>
: > : > : > wrote:
: > : > : > : On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:02:57 -0700, dubya's drone mumbled
: > : > : > : something like this:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > They Knew...
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > Despite the whitewash, we now know that the Bush
: > : > : > : > administration was warned before the war that its Iraq
: > : > : > : > claims were weak
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : Thanks for the link. That's as good an analysis as I have
: > : > : > : seen, backed up with plenty of reference links. A bit of a
: > : > : > : long read, so I don't suppose many Dubya dupes will have
the
: > : > : > : attention span to read it all, or take the trouble to
follow
: > : > : > : the links before crying 'lies damn lies'.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > There's nothing there worth reading. It's just a left wing
: > : > : > kook site for left wing kooks.
: > : >
: > : > : So you didn't read it or follow the links to check the facts?
: > : >
: > : > No need to go past www.inthesetimes.com.
: >
: > : Are you by any chance related to one of Pavlov's Dogs? I ask
because
: > : I detect conditioning here. Use Google if you don't understand the
: > : reference.
: >
: > : I would have thought that a sharp intelligent right wing dupe like
: > : you would have been grateful for the opportunity to expose the
: > : inaccuracies, misleading facts and lies contained on a left wing
: > : kook site for what they are. So here is your opportunity to
: > : entertain this newsgroup further:
: >
: > : Take the trouble to read the link and list the incorrect or
: > : misleading items. Failure to do so will be considered an admission
: > : that the article is true in its entirety.
: >
: > I have no desire to waste my time reading leftwing loser kook talk
and
: > a bunch of leftwing kook sites. Not to many days ago you were
quoting
: > a left wing kook article from a left wing kook site that claimed a
: > quote from Rove admitting to having cheated during the first debate.
: >
: Posted deliberately to rattle your cage and it worked!
Sure you did!
So you can't find any inconsistencies in the above link.... I guess it
must be true then: Bush knew there were no WMD in Iraq.
Yes, Tenet's people came to him with the bad news reports from the
inspectors daily. No trailers, no stockpiles, no WMDs. Of course, we still
have Cheney talking about 10 WMD labs, that simply never existed, right
before the election. It's amazing how stupid and deluded they think their
people are - and apparently they're right!
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