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"Harry Hope" |
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17 Dec 2004 11:47:35 AM |
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What ever happened to the investigation into Bush White House treason. |
From The Tahlequah Daily Press, 12/17/04:
http://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/articles/2004/12/17/news/editorial/aaaaaaanovak.txt
Why isn't Novak in jail, too?
You can't have it both ways.
Not even if your name is Robert Novak.
When it comes to dirty tricks and unethical behavior, this ultra-right
pundit skates about as close to the "evil" line as you can get without
sprouting a pair of horns.
If he engaged in that kind of behavior in these parts, a couple of
folks might be tempted to use their "one free killin'" on him.
For those who are (mercifully) so sheltered they haven't had to endure
this pompous blowhard on CNN's "The Capital Gang," he's the one who in
2003 outed a CIA spy by the name of Valeria Plame.
Coincidentally, she's the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph
Wilson, who had been openly critical of Bush's Iraq policy, and who
revealed how Bush ignored evidence that there were no WMDs.
It was obvious to Washington insiders that Novak published Plame's
name at the behest of someone close to the Bush administration, as
retaliation for her husband's temerity.
Many suspect Bush handler Karl Rove.
Competition being what it is, it wasn't long before other journalists
followed Novak's lead and published Plame's name.
But since it's illegal for government officials to name spooks, and
since Novak admits he got his information from high-level White House
sources, questions were naturally raised about who let the cat out of
the bag.
Subpoenas were issued, and lately, two reporters - Judith Miller of
the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine - have been
cooling their heels in jail for refusing to disclose who leaked the
operative's name to them.
What happened to Novak?
Apparently nothing.
News stories continue to follow the cases of other journalists who
were subpoenaed for simply repeating Novak's information - and even
those who didn't actually use Plame's name.
But there's nary a word about any ramifications for the source of all
this grief.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Novak's ability to circumvent any
pressure to reveal his sources, while others are ordered to due so
under penalty of hoosegow, is the source of much speculation among the
media.
They offer several theories.
Perhaps Novak was subpoenaed but refused to testify.
Those in the know consider this unlikely, since Novak's zeal for
self-promotion is legendary.
Miller and Cooper are now touted as "First Amendment heroes" for
refusing to testify, and those who know Novak say he would trip all
over himself to secure the martyr's mantle.
The Times points out Novak could have involved his Fifth Amendment
rights and stayed mum, or he might have received immunity for his
testimony.
That would apply if he were a criminal suspect, which legal experts
also consider unlikely.
The person who gave him the information broke the law, not Novak
himself.
On the other hand, if Novak were a suspect who had received immunity,
his Fifth Amendment protection would evaporate, and the prosecutors
would have the information they needed.
Why would they continue to fish?
Many journalists believe Novak - who has no real credibility with
anyone except the most ardent ultra-rightists - has already spilled
his guts to prosecutors.
Again, though, one must wonder why the investigation continues, and
why there have been no arrests.
And finally, some think Novak himself is a target of the probe.
This is perhaps wishful thinking, but it might explain certain actions
on the part of prosecutors.
As for us, we're going with a fifth theory proposed by the Times:
That the Bush administration has ordered prosecutors to steer clear of
any punitive action against their favorite media bedfellow.
Whatever happens in this case, it will certainly be included in media
case law of the future.
It will also reopen discussions about how far a journalist should go
to protect a source, and whether journalists should allow themselves
to be used as toadies by government officials.
National media icons spend far too much time these days cozying up to
elected officials.
That's a disservice to the public, and a dark chapter in history for
the Fourth Estate.
__________________________________________________________
Harry
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| User: "Jim E" |
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17 Dec 2004 10:46:50 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
Jim E
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| User: "Rich Travsky" |
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19 Dec 2004 10:23:05 PM |
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Jim E wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
You're saying there's no investigation?
RT
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| User: "Defendario" |
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18 Dec 2004 09:50:20 AM |
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Jim E wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
Jim E
Who's the delusional one?
I have wondered why Novak isn't in a jail cell too, but hey, I'm just a
little guy...
Here's the text you tried to hide by snipping, rightard:
From The Tahlequah Daily Press, 12/17/04:
http://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/articles/2004/12/17/news/editorial/aaaaaaanovak.txt
Why isn't Novak in jail, too?
You can't have it both ways.
Not even if your name is Robert Novak.
When it comes to dirty tricks and unethical behavior, this ultra-right
pundit skates about as close to the "evil" line as you can get without
sprouting a pair of horns.
If he engaged in that kind of behavior in these parts, a couple of
folks might be tempted to use their "one free killin'" on him.
For those who are (mercifully) so sheltered they haven't had to endure
this pompous blowhard on CNN's "The Capital Gang," he's the one who in
2003 outed a CIA spy by the name of Valeria Plame.
Coincidentally, she's the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph
Wilson, who had been openly critical of Bush's Iraq policy, and who
revealed how Bush ignored evidence that there were no WMDs.
It was obvious to Washington insiders that Novak published Plame's
name at the behest of someone close to the Bush administration, as
retaliation for her husband's temerity.
Many suspect Bush handler Karl Rove.
Competition being what it is, it wasn't long before other journalists
followed Novak's lead and published Plame's name.
But since it's illegal for government officials to name spooks, and
since Novak admits he got his information from high-level White House
sources, questions were naturally raised about who let the cat out of
the bag.
Subpoenas were issued, and lately, two reporters - Judith Miller of
the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine - have been
cooling their heels in jail for refusing to disclose who leaked the
operative's name to them.
What happened to Novak?
Apparently nothing.
News stories continue to follow the cases of other journalists who
were subpoenaed for simply repeating Novak's information - and even
those who didn't actually use Plame's name.
But there's nary a word about any ramifications for the source of all
this grief.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Novak's ability to circumvent any
pressure to reveal his sources, while others are ordered to due so
under penalty of hoosegow, is the source of much speculation among the
media.
They offer several theories.
Perhaps Novak was subpoenaed but refused to testify.
Those in the know consider this unlikely, since Novak's zeal for
self-promotion is legendary.
Miller and Cooper are now touted as "First Amendment heroes" for
refusing to testify, and those who know Novak say he would trip all
over himself to secure the martyr's mantle.
The Times points out Novak could have involved his Fifth Amendment
rights and stayed mum, or he might have received immunity for his
testimony.
That would apply if he were a criminal suspect, which legal experts
also consider unlikely.
The person who gave him the information broke the law, not Novak
himself.
On the other hand, if Novak were a suspect who had received immunity,
his Fifth Amendment protection would evaporate, and the prosecutors
would have the information they needed.
Why would they continue to fish?
Many journalists believe Novak - who has no real credibility with
anyone except the most ardent ultra-rightists - has already spilled
his guts to prosecutors.
Again, though, one must wonder why the investigation continues, and
why there have been no arrests.
And finally, some think Novak himself is a target of the probe.
This is perhaps wishful thinking, but it might explain certain actions
on the part of prosecutors.
As for us, we're going with a fifth theory proposed by the Times:
That the Bush administration has ordered prosecutors to steer clear of
any punitive action against their favorite media bedfellow.
Whatever happens in this case, it will certainly be included in media
case law of the future.
It will also reopen discussions about how far a journalist should go
to protect a source, and whether journalists should allow themselves
to be used as toadies by government officials.
National media icons spend far too much time these days cozying up to
elected officials.
That's a disservice to the public, and a dark chapter in history for
the Fourth Estate.
__________________________________________________________
Harry
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| User: "Jim E" |
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18 Dec 2004 12:14:32 PM |
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"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:1103385076.1584ecb45c4c8f92dc0963dfbc6b1454@teranews...
Jim E wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
Jim E
Who's the delusional one?
I have wondered why Novak isn't in a jail cell too, but hey, I'm just a
little guy...
Here's the text you tried to hide by snipping, rightard:
An interesting collection of innuendo, conjecture,
and fact "selection", all wrapped in a nice package of "We don't like him".
Do lose sleep over it.
Jim E
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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18 Dec 2004 01:30:20 PM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:1103385076.1584ecb45c4c8f92dc0963dfbc6b1454@teranews...
Jim E wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
Jim E
Who's the delusional one?
I have wondered why Novak isn't in a jail cell too, but hey, I'm just a
little guy...
Here's the text you tried to hide by snipping, rightard:
An interesting collection of innuendo, conjecture,
and fact "selection", all wrapped in a nice package of "We don't like
him".
Do lose sleep over it.
The trademark of a lying rightard - delete the text, then denigrate it so
noone can catch him in his lies.
Larry
Jim E
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| User: "Jim E" |
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18 Dec 2004 09:46:37 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:cq2002$83c4$1@news3.infoave.net...
"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
news:32jacbF3n5ch6U1@individual.net...
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:1103385076.1584ecb45c4c8f92dc0963dfbc6b1454@teranews...
Jim E wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
Jim E
Who's the delusional one?
I have wondered why Novak isn't in a jail cell too, but hey, I'm just a
little guy...
Here's the text you tried to hide by snipping, rightard:
An interesting collection of innuendo, conjecture,
and fact "selection", all wrapped in a nice package of "We don't like
him".
Do lose sleep over it.
The trademark of a lying rightard - delete the text, then denigrate it so
noone can catch him in his lies.
Any fool with an IQ of 10+ can go back and read what I snipped, don't be
such a drama queen.
Nobody wants to wade through a googolplex of
trash more than once.
Jim E
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18 Dec 2004 10:52:41 PM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
news:32kbsvF3nmbaoU1@individual.net...
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:cq2002$83c4$1@news3.infoave.net...
"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
news:32jacbF3n5ch6U1@individual.net...
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:1103385076.1584ecb45c4c8f92dc0963dfbc6b1454@teranews...
Jim E wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:gt66s0h2ik7fne1rhv8ovis3utlnmar024@4ax.com...
Like the rest of your delusions, it just evaporated into thin air.
LOL
Jim E
Who's the delusional one?
I have wondered why Novak isn't in a jail cell too, but hey, I'm just
a
little guy...
Here's the text you tried to hide by snipping, rightard:
An interesting collection of innuendo, conjecture,
and fact "selection", all wrapped in a nice package of "We don't like
him".
Do lose sleep over it.
The trademark of a lying rightard - delete the text, then denigrate it
so
noone can catch him in his lies.
Any fool with an IQ of 10+ can go back and read what I snipped, don't be
such a drama queen.
Nobody wants to wade through a googolplex of
trash more than once.
Any body with an IQ over 10 - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out - knows
the nature of usenet may mean messages are lost or unavailable, that mesages
are easily missed, that threads are entered and left at random. Anybody with
any respect for others - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out - would not
force others to go and look for information that should be immediately
available because some inconsiderate or deceitful person - oh, I guess that
means a rightard - deleted it TWICE. Only arrogant, deceitful, manipulative
people - oh, I guess that means rightards - set themselves up as usenet
censors and decide what is important or not important for others to read.
Larry
Jim E
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18 Dec 2004 11:16:01 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:cq30ug$8e4u$1@
Any fool with an IQ of 10+ can go back and read what I snipped, don't be
such a drama queen.
Nobody wants to wade through a googolplex of
trash more than once.
Any body with an IQ over 10 - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out -
knows
the nature of usenet may mean messages are lost or unavailable, that
mesages
are easily missed, that threads are entered and left at random. Anybody
with
any respect for others - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out - would not
force others to go and look for information that should be immediately
available because some inconsiderate or deceitful person - oh, I guess
that
means a rightard - deleted it TWICE. Only arrogant, deceitful,
manipulative
people - oh, I guess that means rightards - set themselves up as usenet
censors and decide what is important or not important for others to read.
That seems to annoy you, kool.
You are quite amusing when annoyed.
Thus you have value, surprise !!
By this virtue you avoid the ignominious fate of spending eternity in the
interdimentional trans galactic bit bucket.
Congratulations.
Jim E
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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19 Dec 2004 11:22:29 AM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
news:32kh4jF3jvj3sU1@individual.net...
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:cq30ug$8e4u$1@
Any fool with an IQ of 10+ can go back and read what I snipped, don't
be
such a drama queen.
Nobody wants to wade through a googolplex of
trash more than once.
Any body with an IQ over 10 - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out -
knows
the nature of usenet may mean messages are lost or unavailable, that
mesages
are easily missed, that threads are entered and left at random. Anybody
with
any respect for others - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out - would
not
force others to go and look for information that should be immediately
available because some inconsiderate or deceitful person - oh, I guess
that
means a rightard - deleted it TWICE. Only arrogant, deceitful,
manipulative
people - oh, I guess that means rightards - set themselves up as usenet
censors and decide what is important or not important for others to
read.
That seems to annoy you, kool.
You are quite amusing when annoyed.
Thus you have value, surprise !!
By this virtue you avoid the ignominious fate of spending eternity in the
interdimentional trans galactic bit bucket.
Congratulations.
Oooh. I overestimated you. I though that you had a political agenda, that
you actually stood for something - however corrupt and deluded your position
was.
But nooo. All you are is mean spirited, selfish, juvenile troll, completely
devoid of human emotion, intelligence, and understanding.
The perfect rightard. A hollow shell waiting to be led by your betters,
useful as cannon fodder only.
larry
Jim E
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19 Dec 2004 03:11:25 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
Oooh. I overestimated you. I though that you had a political agenda, that
you actually stood for something - however corrupt and deluded your
position
was.
But nooo. All you are is mean spirited, selfish, juvenile troll,
completely
devoid of human emotion, intelligence, and understanding.
The perfect rightard. A hollow shell waiting to be led by your betters,
useful as cannon fodder only.
larry
Try to estimate the depth to which you have injured my sensitive feelings.
Hint : Work in Pico angstroms.
Jim E
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19 Dec 2004 04:13:24 PM |
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
news:32m93uF3m72dcU1@individual.net...
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
Oooh. I overestimated you. I though that you had a political agenda,
that
you actually stood for something - however corrupt and deluded your
position
was.
But nooo. All you are is mean spirited, selfish, juvenile troll,
completely
devoid of human emotion, intelligence, and understanding.
The perfect rightard. A hollow shell waiting to be led by your betters,
useful as cannon fodder only.
larry
Try to estimate the depth to which you have injured my sensitive feelings.
Hint : Work in Pico angstroms.
I know that someone who has aspirations to achieve the status of a flea -
becoming an annoyance - has no feelings. Keep trying. One of these days you
may yet achieve fleahood.
Larry
Jim E
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| User: "Defendario" |
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18 Dec 2004 11:03:18 PM |
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Larry Hewitt wrote:
<<SNIP>>
Any body with an IQ over 10 - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out - knows
the nature of usenet may mean messages are lost or unavailable, that mesages
are easily missed, that threads are entered and left at random. Anybody with
any respect for others - oh, I guess that leaves rightards out - would not
force others to go and look for information that should be immediately
available because some inconsiderate or deceitful person - oh, I guess that
means a rightard - deleted it TWICE. Only arrogant, deceitful, manipulative
people - oh, I guess that means rightards - set themselves up as usenet
censors and decide what is important or not important for others to read.
Larry
Well, at least it establishes something about Jim...
He's a dishonest, censoring, Usenet Punk Rightard.
Jim E
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17 Dec 2004 12:22:48 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The Tahlequah Daily Press, 12/17/04:
http://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/articles/2004/12/17/news/editorial/aaaaaaanovak.txt
Why isn't Novak in jail, too?
You can't have it both ways.
Not even if your name is Robert Novak.
When it comes to dirty tricks and unethical behavior, this
ultra-right
pundit skates about as close to the "evil" line as you can get
without
sprouting a pair of horns.
If he engaged in that kind of behavior in these parts, a couple of
folks might be tempted to use their "one free killin'" on him.
For those who are (mercifully) so sheltered they haven't had to
endure
this pompous blowhard on CNN's "The Capital Gang," he's the one who
in
2003 outed a CIA spy by the name of Valeria Plame.
Coincidentally, she's the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph
Wilson, who had been openly critical of Bush's Iraq policy, and who
revealed how Bush ignored evidence that there were no WMDs.
It was obvious to Washington insiders that Novak published Plame's
name at the behest of someone close to the Bush administration, as
retaliation for her husband's temerity.
Many suspect Bush handler Karl Rove.
Competition being what it is, it wasn't long before other journalists
followed Novak's lead and published Plame's name.
But since it's illegal for government officials to name spooks, and
since Novak admits he got his information from high-level White House
sources, questions were naturally raised about who let the cat out of
the bag.
Subpoenas were issued, and lately, two reporters - Judith Miller of
the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine - have been
cooling their heels in jail for refusing to disclose who leaked the
operative's name to them.
What happened to Novak?
Apparently nothing.
News stories continue to follow the cases of other journalists who
were subpoenaed for simply repeating Novak's information - and even
those who didn't actually use Plame's name.
But there's nary a word about any ramifications for the source of all
this grief.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Novak's ability to circumvent any
pressure to reveal his sources, while others are ordered to due so
under penalty of hoosegow, is the source of much speculation among
the
media.
They offer several theories.
Perhaps Novak was subpoenaed but refused to testify.
Those in the know consider this unlikely, since Novak's zeal for
self-promotion is legendary.
Miller and Cooper are now touted as "First Amendment heroes" for
refusing to testify, and those who know Novak say he would trip all
over himself to secure the martyr's mantle.
The Times points out Novak could have involved his Fifth Amendment
rights and stayed mum, or he might have received immunity for his
testimony.
That would apply if he were a criminal suspect, which legal experts
also consider unlikely.
The person who gave him the information broke the law, not Novak
himself.
On the other hand, if Novak were a suspect who had received immunity,
his Fifth Amendment protection would evaporate, and the prosecutors
would have the information they needed.
Why would they continue to fish?
Many journalists believe Novak - who has no real credibility with
anyone except the most ardent ultra-rightists - has already spilled
his guts to prosecutors.
Again, though, one must wonder why the investigation continues, and
why there have been no arrests.
And finally, some think Novak himself is a target of the probe.
This is perhaps wishful thinking, but it might explain certain
actions
on the part of prosecutors.
As for us, we're going with a fifth theory proposed by the Times:
That the Bush administration has ordered prosecutors to steer clear
of
any punitive action against their favorite media bedfellow.
Whatever happens in this case, it will certainly be included in media
case law of the future.
It will also reopen discussions about how far a journalist should go
to protect a source, and whether journalists should allow themselves
to be used as toadies by government officials.
National media icons spend far too much time these days cozying up to
elected officials.
That's a disservice to the public, and a dark chapter in history for
the Fourth Estate.
__________________________________________________________
Harry
Why are they hitting on the journalists??
Why not just put Karl River under oath and ASK HIM -- the way
they did Clinton. Karl has no immunity -- except of course
George would instantly pardon him because George can hardly
exist without Karl's brain.
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17 Dec 2004 01:16:53 PM |
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wrote:
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Tahlequah Daily Press, 12/17/04:
http://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/articles/2004/12/17/news/editorial/aaaaaaanovak.txt
Why isn't Novak in jail, too?
You can't have it both ways.
Not even if your name is Robert Novak.
When it comes to dirty tricks and unethical behavior, this
ultra-right
pundit skates about as close to the "evil" line as you can get
without
sprouting a pair of horns.
If he engaged in that kind of behavior in these parts, a couple of
folks might be tempted to use their "one free killin'" on him.
For those who are (mercifully) so sheltered they haven't had to
endure
this pompous blowhard on CNN's "The Capital Gang," he's the one who
in
2003 outed a CIA spy by the name of Valeria Plame.
Coincidentally, she's the wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph
Wilson, who had been openly critical of Bush's Iraq policy, and who
revealed how Bush ignored evidence that there were no WMDs.
It was obvious to Washington insiders that Novak published Plame's
name at the behest of someone close to the Bush administration, as
retaliation for her husband's temerity.
Many suspect Bush handler Karl Rove.
Competition being what it is, it wasn't long before other journalists
followed Novak's lead and published Plame's name.
But since it's illegal for government officials to name spooks, and
since Novak admits he got his information from high-level White House
sources, questions were naturally raised about who let the cat out of
the bag.
Subpoenas were issued, and lately, two reporters - Judith Miller of
the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time magazine - have been
cooling their heels in jail for refusing to disclose who leaked the
operative's name to them.
What happened to Novak?
Apparently nothing.
News stories continue to follow the cases of other journalists who
were subpoenaed for simply repeating Novak's information - and even
those who didn't actually use Plame's name.
But there's nary a word about any ramifications for the source of all
this grief.
According to the Los Angeles Times, Novak's ability to circumvent any
pressure to reveal his sources, while others are ordered to due so
under penalty of hoosegow, is the source of much speculation among
the
media.
They offer several theories.
Perhaps Novak was subpoenaed but refused to testify.
Those in the know consider this unlikely, since Novak's zeal for
self-promotion is legendary.
Miller and Cooper are now touted as "First Amendment heroes" for
refusing to testify, and those who know Novak say he would trip all
over himself to secure the martyr's mantle.
The Times points out Novak could have involved his Fifth Amendment
rights and stayed mum, or he might have received immunity for his
testimony.
That would apply if he were a criminal suspect, which legal experts
also consider unlikely.
The person who gave him the information broke the law, not Novak
himself.
On the other hand, if Novak were a suspect who had received immunity,
his Fifth Amendment protection would evaporate, and the prosecutors
would have the information they needed.
Why would they continue to fish?
Many journalists believe Novak - who has no real credibility with
anyone except the most ardent ultra-rightists - has already spilled
his guts to prosecutors.
Again, though, one must wonder why the investigation continues, and
why there have been no arrests.
And finally, some think Novak himself is a target of the probe.
This is perhaps wishful thinking, but it might explain certain
actions
on the part of prosecutors.
As for us, we're going with a fifth theory proposed by the Times:
That the Bush administration has ordered prosecutors to steer clear
of
any punitive action against their favorite media bedfellow.
Whatever happens in this case, it will certainly be included in media
case law of the future.
It will also reopen discussions about how far a journalist should go
to protect a source, and whether journalists should allow themselves
to be used as toadies by government officials.
National media icons spend far too much time these days cozying up to
elected officials.
That's a disservice to the public, and a dark chapter in history for
the Fourth Estate.
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Harry
Why are they hitting on the journalists??
Why not just put Karl River under oath and ASK HIM -- the way
they did Clinton. Karl has no immunity -- except of course
George would instantly pardon him because George can hardly
exist without Karl's brain.
LOL! But don't you think Karl wouldn't just "Disremember" everything
associated with Ms Palme?
Like the way Bush the Elder couldn't remember *anything* he was asked
about in the Iran-Contra Investigation?
I wonder if those failing memories might have been jogged by a pair of
pliers & a blowtorch?
;-)
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It's a national scandal that novak still has his jobs with CNN and CST.
Dan rather was fired for a lot less than what novak did.
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