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"Don Quixote" |
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22 Jun 2005 04:13:12 PM |
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What happens when the House has nothing to do |
It amends U.S. Constitution like Texas does to Texas Constitution.
Instead of granting fundamental rights, now it's taking away rights.
A Chinese can burn American flags in China, but an American cannot burn
an American flag in America. Who lives in a free country?
What if I make a flag that looks like an American flag, but with either
49 or 51 stars and then burn it? No one has time to count the stars.
I get punished for burning a look alike flag?
More patch work to the U.S. Constitution.
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House Approves Flag-Burning Amendment
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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| User: "John Eric Voltin" |
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22 Jun 2005 07:47:44 PM |
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Considering the number of really important issues that need to be addressed
by Congress, spening their time on this issue seems inappropriate to me.
This is a classic example of "feel good" legislation that appeals to
people's emotions but offers no practical value. When compared to topics
such as fighting terrorism, keeping our country safe, the US economny, US
energy policy, etc., whether or not someone burns an inanimate object to
make a statement seems completely inconsequential. Of course a large number
of people don't like seeing American flags burned, but how many of those
people believe the federal government should spend their time and resources
trying to prevent flag burnings.
On a side note, passing a flag burning constitutional amendment would make
the act of burning an American flag even more significant and impactful than
it is today. Therefore, what would we actually gain by passing the
legislation? Would we start throwing flag burners in prision or simply
charge them a fine?
- John Eric
"Don Quixote" <don.quixote@laMancha.org> wrote in message
news:Ivkue.48620$j51.12750@tornado.texas.rr.com...
It amends U.S. Constitution like Texas does to Texas Constitution.
Instead of granting fundamental rights, now it's taking away rights.
A Chinese can burn American flags in China, but an American cannot burn
an American flag in America. Who lives in a free country?
What if I make a flag that looks like an American flag, but with either
49 or 51 stars and then burn it? No one has time to count the stars.
I get punished for burning a look alike flag?
More patch work to the U.S. Constitution.
==
House Approves Flag-Burning Amendment
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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| Title: Re: What happens when the House has nothing to do |
23 Jun 2005 11:53:31 PM |
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"John Eric Voltin" <jevoltin@austin.rr.com>
wrotenews:QEnue.48698$j51.16801@tornado.texas.rr.com:
On a side note, passing a flag burning constitutional amendment would
make the act of burning an American flag even more significant and
impactful than it is today. Therefore, what would we actually gain by
passing the legislation? Would we start throwing flag burners in
prision or simply charge them a fine?
- John Eric
I suggest that would do the same thing to them that other henious criminals
get, like people who grow marijuana for cancer patients.
Distribution and sale of a Class one narcotic, 10 years to life.
Burning a flag, any flag, as a protest, 10 years to life.
That'll make those damn flag burners sorry!
We might have to lower the penalties for the burning of Kansas state flags
and New York state flags, but for the Texas state flag, give them the
needle.
Burnin a Meskin flag or Communist Chinese flag should be rewarded....ooops,
I'm dreaming again.
Got to stop that.
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "cory" |
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| Title: Re: What happens when the House has nothing to do |
24 Jun 2005 01:26:52 AM |
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Mapanari wrote:
I suggest that would do the same thing to them that other henious criminals
get, like people who grow marijuana for cancer patients.
Distribution and sale of a Class one narcotic, 10 years to life.
Burning a flag, any flag, as a protest, 10 years to life.
Some pundit somewhere remarked cleverly: supposing one were to burn a
near-replica of a US flag, for instance with 51 stars, would they have
to go to prison? Can you say, "slippery slope?"
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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24 Jun 2005 03:01:07 PM |
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cory <postmaster@hotmail.com>
wrotenews:MINue.1933$W74.1193@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:
Mapanari wrote:
I suggest that would do the same thing to them that other henious
criminals get, like people who grow marijuana for cancer patients.
Distribution and sale of a Class one narcotic, 10 years to life.
Burning a flag, any flag, as a protest, 10 years to life.
Some pundit somewhere remarked cleverly: supposing one were to burn a
near-replica of a US flag, for instance with 51 stars, would they have
to go to prison? Can you say, "slippery slope?"
Then Jesse Jackson will demand an amendment for the burning of the Rainbow
Coaltion flag.
What if a flag factory burns down negilgently due to carelessness on the
part of the night guard? Does he get 400,000 life sentences to be served
concurently or consequatively?
What if you car jack a car that has a little american flag decal on the
back and you then torch the car? Does the federal government then take
over the state case and prosecute you under Federal law and maybe execute
you?
What if you are at a parade and you give your little boy an American flag
to wave and you don't notice that he wanders off and then sticks it into a
pile of steaming horse turds to play with them? Do you get negligent child
endangerment leading to flag abuse?
Can you instead just ***** and ***** on the flag without penalty? Is it only
burning?
What if you cover the flag in honey and let ants eat it?
What if you make a patriotic wedding cake in the form of an american
flag...does the first person who eats a piece of it go to jail? Do all the
rest of the guests recoil in horror at the sacriledge or do they all eat a
piece to and go to jail also? Maybe the government can deputize wedding
photogs to catch such possible malfactors?
If I tie a little american flag bandana around my dog's neck at the 4th of
July picnic and he wanders into the fireworks area unknown, and gets
horribly burned by an misfiring mortor star shell, do I then go to jail?
If the Taliban crashes a plane full of fuel into the Congress while it's in
session, and the whole place burns down with all of the critters in it, a
fantasy I know, but if they do, and all the flags there burn, do we arrest
the air traffic controllers? The Air National Guard Pilots?
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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23 Jun 2005 11:47:32 PM |
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Don Quixote <don.quixote@laMancha.org>
wrotenews:Ivkue.48620$j51.12750@tornado.texas.rr.com:
It amends U.S. Constitution like Texas does to Texas Constitution.
Instead of granting fundamental rights, now it's taking away rights.
A Chinese can burn American flags in China, but an American cannot burn
an American flag in America. Who lives in a free country?
What if I make a flag that looks like an American flag, but with either
49 or 51 stars and then burn it? No one has time to count the stars.
I get punished for burning a look alike flag?
More patch work to the U.S. Constitution.
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House Approves Flag-Burning Amendment
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgN
XTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
If burning the American flag will be a criminal act, will the CIA then
start taking photos of all the dirty arabs and French around the world who
burn flags and prosecuting or demanding that they be arrested and
prosecuted?
Does this mean that through predator surviellence drones, loaded with Air
to Ground missles, that if there is a demonstration in Gaza or Turkey
against America and they burn a flag, does this mean that since they are
now criminals that they can get release permission to blow the fuckers up?
One can only dream that out of *****, might come satisfaction.
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "James Ascher" |
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22 Jun 2005 06:29:33 PM |
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Don Quixote wrote:
It amends U.S. Constitution like Texas does to Texas Constitution.
Instead of granting fundamental rights, now it's taking away rights.
A Chinese can burn American flags in China, but an American cannot burn
an American flag in America. Who lives in a free country?
What if I make a flag that looks like an American flag, but with either
49 or 51 stars and then burn it? No one has time to count the stars.
I get punished for burning a look alike flag?
More patch work to the U.S. Constitution.
==
House Approves Flag-Burning Amendment
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
James
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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22 Jun 2005 07:12:21 PM |
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"James Ascher" <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:xvmue.7662$hK3.2316@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Don Quixote wrote:
It amends U.S. Constitution like Texas does to Texas Constitution.
Instead of granting fundamental rights, now it's taking away rights.
A Chinese can burn American flags in China, but an American cannot burn
an American flag in America. Who lives in a free country?
What if I make a flag that looks like an American flag, but with either
49 or 51 stars and then burn it? No one has time to count the stars.
I get punished for burning a look alike flag?
More patch work to the U.S. Constitution.
==
House Approves Flag-Burning Amendment
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that *****!
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-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "James Ascher" |
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23 Jun 2005 06:35:43 AM |
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The other Donald wrote:
"James Ascher" <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:xvmue.7662$hK3.2316@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Don Quixote wrote:
It amends U.S. Constitution like Texas does to Texas Constitution.
Instead of granting fundamental rights, now it's taking away rights.
A Chinese can burn American flags in China, but an American cannot burn
an American flag in America. Who lives in a free country?
What if I make a flag that looks like an American flag, but with either
49 or 51 stars and then burn it? No one has time to count the stars.
I get punished for burning a look alike flag?
More patch work to the U.S. Constitution.
==
House Approves Flag-Burning Amendment
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that *****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
James
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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23 Jun 2005 08:52:18 PM |
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"J Rob" <jrob@eris.invalid> wrote in message
news:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com...
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that *****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take
away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
I heard....
What the ***** is going on around here?
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-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "James Ascher" |
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24 Jun 2005 07:08:10 PM |
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The other Donald wrote:
"J Rob" <jrob@eris.invalid> wrote in message
news:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com...
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoUhgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that *****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take
away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
I heard....
What the ***** is going on around here?
Neo-con ascendancy.
James
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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23 Jun 2005 11:49:56 PM |
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J Rob <jrob@eris.invalid> wrotenews:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com:
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoU
hgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that
*****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
You can bet your bippy that all the city council, Kirk Watson and all the
other liberal theives in Austin are taking very very close notice of that
ruling, and licking their diseased chops in anticipation, along with each
other's instant erections.
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "moorehead" |
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27 Jun 2005 02:07:35 PM |
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Mapanari wrote:
J Rob <jrob@eris.invalid> wrotenews:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com:
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoU
hgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that
*****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
You can bet your bippy that all the city council, Kirk Watson and all the
other liberal theives in Austin are taking very very close notice of that
ruling, and licking their diseased chops in anticipation, along with each
other's instant erections.
Mapi - Kirk Watson is long gone. Will Wynn is mayor now. Not that I
disagree with your general assessment - just get the names right, dude.
mj
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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28 Jun 2005 02:19:43 AM |
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"moorehead" <moorehead_johnson@hotmail.com>
wrotenews:1119899255.794117.186140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Mapanari wrote:
J Rob <jrob@eris.invalid> wrotenews:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com:
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=A
uoU hgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that
*****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order
of WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin
to take away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
You can bet your bippy that all the city council, Kirk Watson and all
the other liberal theives in Austin are taking very very close notice
of that ruling, and licking their diseased chops in anticipation, along
with each other's instant erections.
Mapi - Kirk Watson is long gone. Will Wynn is mayor now. Not that I
disagree with your general assessment - just get the names right, dude.
mj
Kirk Watson's slimy fingers are all over the city....he is in a law firm
that just got 100's of thousands of "consulting" money and has gotten other
money from his buds on city council.
That corrupt liberal fuckhead just won't leave town...to much getting while
the getting is good.
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "L Sternn" |
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25 Jun 2005 12:06:30 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:49:56 -0000, Mapanari <whosthat@anonmail.com>
wrote:
J Rob <jrob@eris.invalid> wrotenews:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com:
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;_ylt=AuoU
hgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that
*****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
You can bet your bippy that all the city council, Kirk Watson and all the
other liberal theives in Austin are taking very very close notice of that
ruling, and licking their diseased chops in anticipation, along with each
other's instant erections.
Yeah, and the Republicans are smirking because they've been doing this
***** foryears.
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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25 Jun 2005 02:18:32 PM |
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L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrotenews:qn3rb1tib86ibd6lkmbeo9pm4721umq466@
4ax.com:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:49:56 -0000, Mapanari <whosthat@anonmail.com>
wrote:
J Rob <jrob@eris.invalid> wrotenews:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com:
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;
_ylt=AuoU
hgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that
*****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
You can bet your bippy that all the city council, Kirk Watson and all the
other liberal theives in Austin are taking very very close notice of that
ruling, and licking their diseased chops in anticipation, along with each
other's instant erections.
Yeah, and the Republicans are smirking because they've been doing this
***** foryears.
That's funny, little boy. I could have sworn that the democrats had total
control of this country for over 30 years....
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "L Sternn" |
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25 Jun 2005 08:47:55 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:18:32 -0000, Mapanari <whosthat@anonmail.com>
wrote:
L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrotenews:qn3rb1tib86ibd6lkmbeo9pm4721umq466@
4ax.com:
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:49:56 -0000, Mapanari <whosthat@anonmail.com>
wrote:
J Rob <jrob@eris.invalid> wrotenews:PtudnbBkbs1MzSbfRVn-pg@io.com:
In austin.general James Ascher <jwa1968@earthlink.net> wrote:
The other Donald wrote:
...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_go_co/flag_burning;
_ylt=AuoU
hgNXTLxdBtoa0.GLxwes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
That's the GOP at its best (or is it worst?)
But they're for freedom, less government intrusion, and all that
*****!
Sure, and Time Warner is a benevolent, caring company on the order of
WalMart!
Hey it could be worse. The Supremes could decide it's OK for Austin to
take away your house and give it to Stratus or something...
You can bet your bippy that all the city council, Kirk Watson and all the
other liberal theives in Austin are taking very very close notice of that
ruling, and licking their diseased chops in anticipation, along with each
other's instant erections.
Yeah, and the Republicans are smirking because they've been doing this
***** foryears.
That's funny, little boy. I could have sworn that the democrats had total
control of this country for over 30 years....
Well, you never cease to demonstrate your ignorance.
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| User: "Mapanari" |
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25 Jun 2005 10:43:06 PM |
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L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net>
wrotenews:q92sb1t4uh754fuahr444pv4n5mqptbf5r@4ax.com:
That's funny, little boy. I could have sworn that the democrats had
total control of this country for over 30 years....
Well, you never cease to demonstrate your ignorance.
Uh huh....I must have misread the papers and the history books....or did you
just graduate from the PC academy of Liberalism, one of our local high
schools recently where they taught you that G. Washington was black, indians
are spiritual people who somehow can foretell the future by talking to their
spirit gods, and that the reason why this country is going downhill fast is
because the Republicans ran this country for the last 35 years?
Sorry, cain't hep wat de teechs yu, dog.
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---Mapanari---
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| User: "L Sternn" |
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28 Jun 2005 08:49:39 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 03:43:06 -0000, Mapanari <whosthat@anonmail.com>
wrote:
L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net>
wrotenews:q92sb1t4uh754fuahr444pv4n5mqptbf5r@4ax.com:
That's funny, little boy. I could have sworn that the democrats had
total control of this country for over 30 years....
Well, you never cease to demonstrate your ignorance.
Uh huh....I must have misread the papers and the history books....or did you
just graduate from the PC academy of Liberalism, one of our local high
schools
No, actually I graduated from a high school which our current
president attended (but did not graduate from), one which still
schools members of the Bush family.
Not that that's anything to brag about
recently where they taught you that G. Washington was black, indians
are spiritual people who somehow can foretell the future by talking to their
spirit gods, and that the reason why this country is going downhill fast is
because the Republicans ran this country for the last 35 years?
You have some strange ideas.
Sorry, cain't hep wat de teechs yu, dog.
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