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"Roedy Green" |
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13 Feb 2004 01:02:11 AM |
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What If Bush Told The Truth? |
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Chris the Liberal" |
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13 Feb 2004 09:59:50 AM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth
We would all be ASTONISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "George" |
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13 Feb 2004 05:57:42 AM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
Alcoholism leads to long-term impotence. Impotence leads to marriage
to a librarian. Impotence also leads to frustration. Which in Bush's
case leads to Bush's War.
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| User: "Errant_Eye" |
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13 Feb 2004 12:02:20 PM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil? My
understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the UN.
Last I read the US was actually paying to import gasoline and heating
oil into Iraq from Kuwait. Exactly how is the US stealing the oil?
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| User: "Republican Double Standard" |
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13 Feb 2004 12:22:05 PM |
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(Errant_Eye) wrote in
news:1e73867.0402131002.66dfe2ee@posting.google.com:
Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil? My
understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the UN.
Your understanding is wrong. Remember the UN is irrelevant. And even when
they aren't irrelevant, they are only good for humanitarian aid purposes.
And even when they are needed for more than that, it's only to plan
elections which the Bush administration clearly cannot cope with.
Last I read the US was actually paying to import gasoline and heating
oil into Iraq from Kuwait. Exactly how is the US stealing the oil?
Not just paying but overpaying.
--
"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed...
managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the
many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and
owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell’s autobiography,
My American Journey, p. 148)
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| User: "Errant_Eye" |
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15 Feb 2004 09:21:41 AM |
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Republican Double Standard <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns948E87F4DC95biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4>...
Errant_Eye@yahoo.com (Errant_Eye) wrote in
news:1e73867.0402131002.66dfe2ee@posting.google.com:
Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil? My
understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the UN.
Your understanding is wrong.
Then it should be so very easy for you to show me that I am wrong.
Would you do so please? Just post a link to a reputable organization
showing that I am not correct.
Remember the UN is irrelevant. And even when
they aren't irrelevant, they are only good for humanitarian aid purposes.
And even when they are needed for more than that, it's only to plan
elections which the Bush administration clearly cannot cope with.
Last I read the US was actually paying to import gasoline and heating
oil into Iraq from Kuwait. Exactly how is the US stealing the oil?
Not just paying but overpaying.
No. Auditors determined that gasoline was not being overcharged.
Initial reviews simply looked at the purchase cost and did not factor
in the cost of cargo and vehicles lost due to the islamo-fascist
terror attacks and the hazard pay required to get drivers for trucks.
This was an audit performed by the Army Corps of Engineers and
originally published in the Wall Street Journal. The Press gave this
rebuttal of the charges about 1/20th the coverage of initial charges.
That this is true never covered the story
http://www.iht.com/articles/124129.html
The latest story - about overcharging the number of meals - may be a
function of a contractor taking advantage of the gov't.. it may also
be a function of unclear contract terminology as to what exactly
constitutes a "meal". Time will tell and if overcharges occurred the
taxpayers will get their money back.
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| User: "Republican Double Standard" |
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15 Feb 2004 09:43:12 AM |
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(Errant_Eye) wrote in
news:1e73867.0402150721.58efd02a@posting.google.com:
Republican Double Standard <bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:<Xns948E87F4DC95biodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4>...
(Errant_Eye) wrote in
news:1e73867.0402131002.66dfe2ee@posting.google.com:
Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and
the continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent
France and Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for
war and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so
he could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a
$100+ billion bill for Bush's little game.
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil?
My understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the
UN.
Your understanding is wrong.
Then it should be so very easy for you to show me that I am wrong.
Would you do so please? Just post a link to a reputable organization
showing that I am not correct.
Happy to oblige:
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2003/0521billionaire.htm
"A US-drafted resolution pending in the UN Security Council would give
the United States and Britain wide-ranging powers to run Iraq and control
its oil industry until a permanent government is set up"
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/04/iraqoil041803.htm
"On April 16, U.S. President George W. Bush called on the United Nations
to lift economic sanctions against Iraq. But this would effectively
remove U.N. oversight of Iraq's oil revenues"
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/14/1076548258792.html
February 14, 2004
"An international watchdog overseeing how Iraq's oil money is spent
during the US-led occupation pressed the US authorities today to finalise
the appointment of auditors so its work can begin in earnest.
"The International Advisory and Monitoring Board (IAMB) on Iraq,
including representatives from the United Nations, World Bank,
International Monetary Fund (IMF) and Arab Fund for Economic and Social
Development, said the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) had
invited proposals from independent auditing firms by February 18.
"On orders from the UN Security Council, the outside auditors are
supposed to monitor Iraqi oil sales and spending from the Development
Fund for Iraq (DFI), which is under the CPA's control."
[it sure doesn't sound like the UN is managing anything. At least not
yet]
Remember the UN is irrelevant. And even when
they aren't irrelevant, they are only good for humanitarian aid
purposes. And even when they are needed for more than that, it's only
to plan elections which the Bush administration clearly cannot cope
with.
Last I read the US was actually paying to import gasoline and
heating oil into Iraq from Kuwait. Exactly how is the US stealing
the oil?
Not just paying but overpaying.
No. Auditors determined that gasoline was not being overcharged.
Really? For someone so demanding of links, I am surprised you don't have
one for this.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4251870/
Updated: 4:31 p.m. ET Feb. 12, 2004
Two ex-Halliburton employees told Democratic lawmakers that Vice
President ***** Cheney's old energy company "routinely overcharged" for
work it did for the U.S. military, the congressmen said on Thursday.
The Texas oil services giant, which is being examined by the military for
possibly overcharging for services,
Initial reviews simply looked at the purchase cost and did not factor
in the cost of cargo and vehicles lost due to the islamo-fascist
terror attacks and the hazard pay required to get drivers for trucks.
From the article above I'd say you are either jumping the gun here or
expressing your fervent hopes.
This was an audit performed by the Army Corps of Engineers and
originally published in the Wall Street Journal. The Press gave this
rebuttal of the charges about 1/20th the coverage of initial charges.
That this is true never covered the story
http://www.iht.com/articles/124129.html
I'm sorry. Why are you citing a story from January 8th when there is an
actual investigation going on right now in mid-Frebruary?
The latest story - about overcharging the number of meals - may be a
function of a contractor taking advantage of the gov't.. it may also
be a function of unclear contract terminology as to what exactly
constitutes a "meal". Time will tell and if overcharges occurred the
taxpayers will get their money back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/politics/14CONT.html
Published: February 14, 2004
The former employees' accusations are the latest in a long string of
troubles. On Monday Kuwait's energy minister asked his country's chief
prosecutor to investigate accusations of overcharging in relation to
Halliburton's contract to import fuel to Iraq from Kuwait. On Wednesday,
Kuwaiti legislators demanded a separate inquiry.
Last Friday, Nigeria ordered an investigation into accusations that a
Halliburton subsidiary paid $180 million in bribes in an effort to win a
natural gas contract there, accusations already being investigated in the
United States and France.
--
"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed...
managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the
many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and
owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell’s autobiography,
My American Journey, p. 148)
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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13 Feb 2004 03:48:14 PM |
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On 13 Feb 2004 10:02:20 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil? My
understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the UN.
Originally France and Germany were also getting a share. Now the USA
gets it all. With only one customer, do you think they will get a
fair price?
There are huge bills for rebuilding the infrastructure only to have
Iraqis blow it up gain. Guess who is going to be eventually stuck with
those bills and the ONGOING bills from Halliburton to pump their oil.
As much as possible they will come out of Iraq's oil revenue.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Errant_Eye" |
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15 Feb 2004 09:53:19 AM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<jbhq2017s67r9gkf2mssseffqae3a96j1i@4ax.com>...
On 13 Feb 2004 10:02:20 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil? My
understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the UN.
Originally France and Germany were also getting a share.
Now the USA gets it all. With only one customer, do you think they will get a
fair price?
Are you saying that now US oil companies are the sole purchasors of
Iraqi oil?
Do you a single shred of evidence that this is the case? I would
really enjoy seeing it.
There are huge bills for rebuilding the infrastructure only to have
Iraqis blow it up gain. Guess who is going to be eventually stuck with
those bills and the ONGOING bills from Halliburton to pump their oil.
As much as possible they will come out of Iraq's oil revenue.
The bidding process for Iraq reconstruction contracts included many
countries other than the US and is expanding to include those who
opposed US action in the UN. After the handover which looks like it
will be this summer Iraqis will be entirely responsible for deciding
who gets what contracts.
How sad that even in the light of the Zarkawi letter you can not see
the real enemy. How sad that you can not see that the islamo-fascists
fear democracy in Iraq and will willingly start a sectarian war
between Sunni and Shiaa in order to advance their theocratic cause.
The enemy is islamo fascism, not the US. If the worst of what you say
is true (and I dispute it), Halliburton will steal your money but the
islamo-fascists would behead you. You tell me which one is worse.
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/transcripts/20040212_zarqawi_letter.html
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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17 Feb 2004 01:09:07 AM |
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On 15 Feb 2004 07:53:19 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Are you saying that now US oil companies are the sole purchasors of
Iraqi oil?
Have you forgotten all that French baiting used to justify cutting the
French off from oil and reconstruction contracts -- which violate WTO
rules.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Errant_Eye" |
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17 Feb 2004 09:15:01 AM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<7ff33011795iebtggdfeij38dvhnb5u3n9@4ax.com>...
On 15 Feb 2004 07:53:19 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Are you saying that now US oil companies are the sole purchasors of
Iraqi oil?
Have you forgotten all that French baiting used to justify cutting the
French off from oil and reconstruction contracts -- which violate WTO
rules.
No I have not, but that does not pertain to the accusation that the US
is stealing Iraqi oil.
That relates to the question of whether American Tax Dollars must be
spent on foreign companies and is an entirely seperate issue. But,
since you bring it up Roedy. Do you support the "globalization" of
the world's economy through the WTO? The breaking down of trade
barriers so countries may not protect their markets or economies from
foreign competition? Do you support the McDonaldization of the world?
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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18 Feb 2004 06:25:27 PM |
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On 17 Feb 2004 07:15:01 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Do you support the "globalization" of
the world's economy through the WTO?
see http://mindprod.com/wto.html
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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18 Feb 2004 08:21:57 PM |
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in article cj0830p4mkud21j4bfl6ev3a848rd8dskq@4ax.com, Roedy Green at
look-at-the-website@mindprod.com wrote on 2/18/04 6:25 PM:
On 17 Feb 2004 07:15:01 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Do you support the "globalization" of
the world's economy through the WTO?
see http://mindprod.com/wto.html
As Canada and most of Europe supports the WTO,
I guess it can't be bad, right?
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| User: "tommyknocker" |
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13 Feb 2004 09:27:07 PM |
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Roedy Green wrote:
On 13 Feb 2004 10:02:20 -0800, (Errant_Eye) wrote
or quoted :
Roedy, can you please show me how the US is stealing Iraq's oil? My
understanding is that income from Iraq's oil is managed by the UN.
Originally France and Germany were also getting a share. Now the USA
gets it all. With only one customer, do you think they will get a
fair price?
There are huge bills for rebuilding the infrastructure only to have
Iraqis blow it up gain. Guess who is going to be eventually stuck with
those bills and the ONGOING bills from Halliburton to pump their oil.
As much as possible they will come out of Iraq's oil revenue.
It's true that W and Co. will make out like bandits-IF they can ever get
the wells and pipelines up and running (and safe from saboteurs) again.
Apparently they didn't anticipate a guerrilla war. I heard on Radio
Netherlands a couple days ago that the occupying forces can't figure out
to enact the most basic security measures, such as blocking off adjacent
streets to car traffic while 500 Iraqis gather to apply for police jobs.
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| User: "johnny" |
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13 Feb 2004 10:41:08 AM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
The subject line: "What If Bush Told The Truth?" only begs for another question:
"What if pigs were to fly?"
EJECT BUSH '04
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| User: "Dez Akin" |
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13 Feb 2004 01:50:57 PM |
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Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com>...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Public policy needs to be driven by tactical threats people can see,
but American interest is driven by strategic threats that no one
except strategic thinkers believe. Try selling the war on necissary
strategic reasons, such as oil security, trade stability, political
malleability and the demonstration of the willingness of the US to
exert raw brutality if its interest is threatened, and you'll get a
resounding no in the public... even though all of these unpopular
reasons are necissary for maintaining US interest.
Though to be honest I don't know why Bush was so hot on going to war
with Saddam, because he doesn't strike me as a real strategic thinker.
I imagine it was a combination of personal hatred of Saddam ('He tried
to kill my daddy!'), a little oil, and the continual urgings of
Wolfowitz, who is a strategic thinker.
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
Even right wingers wouldn't jump on board for the real strategic
reasons for the war if laid out publicly. The public thinks in terms
of right and wrong, rather than in terms of strategic interest.
Which is part of the problem of selling the war on weapons that are
only a potential threat to the Iranians and Israeli's.
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
Agreed. He should have found something else to sell the war.
Humanitarian concerns worked in Kosovo, and it could have sold the
Iraqi war as well; Add some WMD for spice (why Iraq and not Liberia or
Zimbabwe or any other brutal regime which has no material interest for
US) and a little honesty (oil shocks hurt the entire global economy)
and it would have been a multilateral sell. But George W Bush isn't
his father and doesn't really understand international politics well
enough to know the need to balance domination with multilateralism.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
On the other hand its good that Bush did it with as much opacity as he
did. When a new administration comes in (this year or 2008) the rest
of the world will believe that it was mostly Bush's little vendetta
rather than American Hegmonistic Policy.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
Really I believe its mostly Wolfowitz's war. The strategic objectives
of the war, all legitimate and most unpopular:
Oil security: Oil shocks because of instability in Iraq or the region
and having an oil supplier as an alternative to Saudi Arabia is more
than a little desirable. Being totally dependant on the whims of the
Saudi's is very bad for the US economic security, if you remember the
oil/grain shocks of the 70's.
Political Malleability: Of all the Middle East regimes, the one that
jump the least to US urgings was Iraq.
Trade Stability/Economic development: Iraq is a large corridor
potentially for trade. A stable Iraq free of Saddam means more free
transit of goods through Iraq and from Iraq than under the old
thuggish socialism, helping the economic development of the region.
More people with jobs means less people spending all their time
figuring out how to blow up the US.
Then there's the issue of the WMD that Saddam would have gotten if we
lifted the sanctions and left Saddam in power. Its absolutely in his
interest and the interest of his regime to aquire strategic deterant
over the US. If we leave Saddam's Iraq alone for a couple of decades
without sanctions you can bet it will have ICBM nukes that can strike
US interests. This poses a strategic threat, not just from Iraq, but
any nation that sees no consequence from nuclear weapons programs.
Though I stress, any nuclear threat (the only WMD that really deserves
the term anyways) was at least a decade away.
In short, the war was necissary for US strategic interests, but was
given a very bad sales pitch by an incompetant who doesn't understand
international politics well enough to execute it without political
damage. Fortunately the pitch was so blindingly partisan that it may
escape as the aspirations of an incompetant and the new US
administration (whenever it is) will be seen as merely picking up the
pieces, though strategic interest is served.
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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13 Feb 2004 03:51:42 PM |
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On 13 Feb 2004 11:50:57 -0800, (Dez Akin) wrote or
quoted :
In short, the war was necissary for US strategic interests, but was
given a very bad sales pitch by an incompetant who doesn't understand
international politics well enough to execute it without political
damage.
That was a well-thought out post. Congratulations.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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13 Feb 2004 11:04:50 AM |
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Roedy; your an idiot. Keep writing, it helps us!(:-)
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:7bto2051tgoa4ib0kob8re0qo0htl6p5un@4ax.com...
What if Bush told the truth that the reason for the Iraq war and the
continuing occupation is to steal Iraq's oil and prevent France and
Germany from getting their traditional share?
Right wingers would leap on board immediately. They are all for war
and plunder. "If they are not American, ***** 'Em"
As it is, Bush is looking pretty lame pretending the war was to
protect the USA from invisible weapons.
No one believes him. It makes it look as if he had the war just so he
could play Napoleon.
People don't like it that 500+ Americans died, and there is a $100+
billion bill for Bush's little game.
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Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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<nshinede@columbus.rr.com> wrote in news:Ss7Xb.1998$9H3.886
@fe2.columbus.rr.com:
Roedy; your an idiot. Keep writing, it helps us!(:-)
The irony.
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"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed...
managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units...Of the
many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as
the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and
owe equal allegiance to their country." (Colin Powell’s autobiography,
My American Journey, p. 148)
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