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User:	"Ms Liberty"
Date:	08 Aug 2005 01:22:54 PM
Object:	What if WWII was like today?

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What if WWII was like today?
(Original publication: August 6, 2005)
Imagine for a moment if the same sensibilities being shown today
by our media, as well as certain politicians and pop-culture
types, was applied to our struggles during in World War II. Here
are six news blotters I believe we'd see:
1. London mayor takes time out from shoveling rubble after
another nightly blitzkrieg to say, "It's our own fault. If our
policies weren't so harsh on Germany at the Treaty of Versailles,
then we wouldn't be in this position today."
2. An anonymous tip revealing nuclear work at a remote New
Mexican lab has set off a string of protests, with people
chanting, "Monkey see, monkey do! Just because Hitler and the
Japanese are trying to develop a nuclear weapon does that mean we
also have to?"
3. College protesters against the Allied occupation of West
Germany, call for Allied troops to leave. Said one protester, "If
America and its allies brought their troops home, I have no doubt
that the foreign insurgents presently infiltrating West Germany
will also simply leave and go home as well."
4. Dozens Die in Allied Strike and Nazi Attack! Allied forces
killed 24 alleged Nazi insurgents yesterday after coming under
attack.
5. Poll of German citizens reveals that many preferred rule under
Hitler as opposed to being occupied by foreigners. Said one
German polled, "It was better under Hitler, the street was a lot
safer while he was our leader."
--
Ms Liberty
United States of America
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User: "hognoxious"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	19 Aug 2005 02:11:54 PM

"Ms Liberty" <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote in message
news:RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn-tw@forethought.net...

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20050806/OPINION02/508060326/1016

....

5. Poll of German citizens reveals that many preferred rule under
Hitler as opposed to being occupied by foreigners. Said one
German polled, "It was better under Hitler, the street was a lot
safer while he was our leader."

.... adding "The trains are always late now!"
6. Luftwaffe sucessfully sue (with legal aid) the RAF over the latter's
racist and discriminatory policy of not allowing German planes to use their
airfields.
7. EU forces British forces to stop using 0.303 inch ammunition. Luckily,
large supplies of 7.65mm are found as a stop-gap.
8. Steve Glybb regales us with an anecdote about the Klaus Von Dummehosen,
captain of the second XI at his school - a jolly good chap who was always
willing to lend you a sixpence for tuck untill your postal order came. He
will (eventually) overgeneralise this to mean that no Germans ever invaded
Poland. Ever. Because he knew one who didn't. Well, not while anyone was
looking.
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User: "Don"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	14 Aug 2005 01:26:53 AM

I find the way our US media presents things to be far more dangerous
than anything else. In Iraq the other side will see this pablum put
out by our media as info stating that we are not decisive and weak.
Such is not the case, but they will not know it. Our media also places
out troops in danger.
When you fight, win. The media needs to soak their heads and realise
that many people will die just to they can get "ratings" and sell more
papers, radio and TV time.
Ms Liberty wrote:

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20050806/OPINION02/508060326/1016

What if WWII was like today?

(Original publication: August 6, 2005)
Imagine for a moment if the same sensibilities being shown today
by our media, as well as certain politicians and pop-culture
types, was applied to our struggles during in World War II. Here
are six news blotters I believe we'd see:

1. London mayor takes time out from shoveling rubble after
another nightly blitzkrieg to say, "It's our own fault. If our
policies weren't so harsh on Germany at the Treaty of Versailles,
then we wouldn't be in this position today."

2. An anonymous tip revealing nuclear work at a remote New
Mexican lab has set off a string of protests, with people
chanting, "Monkey see, monkey do! Just because Hitler and the
Japanese are trying to develop a nuclear weapon does that mean we
also have to?"

3. College protesters against the Allied occupation of West
Germany, call for Allied troops to leave. Said one protester, "If
America and its allies brought their troops home, I have no doubt
that the foreign insurgents presently infiltrating West Germany
will also simply leave and go home as well."

4. Dozens Die in Allied Strike and Nazi Attack! Allied forces
killed 24 alleged Nazi insurgents yesterday after coming under
attack.

5. Poll of German citizens reveals that many preferred rule under
Hitler as opposed to being occupied by foreigners. Said one
German polled, "It was better under Hitler, the street was a lot
safer while he was our leader."

--
Ms Liberty
United States of America

User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: What if WWII was like today?	15 Aug 2005 06:23:42 PM

Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce
"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.
Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.
So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.
Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.
As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.
And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.
There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.
Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.
Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.
The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.
Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.
Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.
How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?
Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.
Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews
are very powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them.
They're afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in
connection with immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick
together and will viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the
old story, so aptly expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir
John Harington. Harington wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's
the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the
Jewish power structure is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is. Well,
that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away with so
much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says
to the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and
because of this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and
achieve success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a
highly moral and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us.
We are a very talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses,
and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race,
a race of philanthropists who only want to make a better world for
everyone, and because of this everyone hates us."
Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called
"Holocaust." In its most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is
the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the
Jews' favorite "Holocaust" phrases.
Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen
as bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they
would criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor
dears, at the hands of anti-Semites.
In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There are a number of good books available on the subject from the
sponsor of this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed
in an earlier broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite
the fact that many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the
"Holocaust" still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid
of the image conjured up by the "Holocaust."
Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the reason,
many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And
really, in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish
problem.
The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike
Americans today, they had an honest government concerned above all
with the survival, welfare, and progress of the German people, and
they began doing what was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate
wholesale from Germany beginning in 1933. And because of that the
Jewish propaganda machine has attacked the Germans so viciously, has
so blackened and demonized their image, that today even knowledgeable
people are afraid to be associated with that image. They are afraid to
say that the Germans were right, that the Germans were justified, and
that we need to do the same if we are to survive. So, as I said, the
"Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.
Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands
from anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves
products marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest
supermarket chain in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway
Coop, announced its decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That
decision was not the result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators
but was based on the feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be
immoral to continue supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli
imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.
The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli
products is a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even
thinkable by big businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique
-- and in particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit
shopworn. It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at
least, in some parts of the world. And I suppose that we should be
happy about that. The unfortunate fact remains, however, that in
America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the "Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still
keeps most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.
Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the
critical issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our
disastrous foreign policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and
in a dozen other disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop
apologizing to the people who are destroying us and go full bore at
destroying them instead.
Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim
that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.
Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now
are making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the
Jews are like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel
Sharon for demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are
like.
Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people
around the world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing
support for the Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring
about the overthrow of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim
world. Let us hope that it brings about an airtight oil embargo
against the United States and shuts off the lights in every shopping
mall and every sports stadium in America long enough for the lemmings
to become restless and begin asking questions. Let us hope that it
makes the efforts of every fool and every traitor who is striving for
a resumption of the so-called "peace process" so obviously futile that
these efforts no longer have the power to deceive anyone.
Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."
Thanks for being with me again today.
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User: "National Alliance Terrorism"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	17 Aug 2005 06:44:42 PM

Let's look at another National Vanguard "NEWS" item:
An ex-marine shoots at Hispanics gathered in front of a nightclub near
his home, after drinking alcohol and arguing with his wife. The man is
being charged with attempted murder.
http://209.11.49.220/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001014623
National Vanguard states how the shooting was justified:
White 'Marine of the Year' Defends Home Against Mestizos
Report; Posted on: 2005-08-17 04:57:36 [ Printer friendly / Instant
flyer ]
War hero arrested for defending his family against Mestizo invaders
Just another example of National Vanguard's Nazi (anti-American) agenda
of
inciting a race war and the genocide of non-Aryans in the United
States.
Great Britain is fighting terrorism by kicking out Islamic clerics who
incite hate and violence towards it's citizens.
How long before we Americans kick out the Neo-Nazi "clerics" who preach
violence and hate in the U.S.?
------------- BACKGROUND ON NATIONAL VANGUARD ------------
National Alliance and its splinter group National Vanguard form the
most dangerous domestic terrorist
organization in the United States. With dozens of cells and ranks of
1000+ members,
hundreds have been charged and convicted of violent crimes over the the
past decade.
In fact the National Alliance/National Vanguard are the subject of 52
FBI investigations related to domestic terrorism and
ties with Islamic terrorists.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=681288&page=1
William Pierce the founder of the National Alliance
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce)
advocated for herding Jews, homosexuals and "racemixers" into cattle
cars and sending them to abandoned coal mines. Timothy Mcveigh admitted
his bombing of the Murrah federal building was inspired by William
Pierces' book the Turner Diaries. The book incites the overthrow of the
government and the genocide of non-aryans and jews.
National Alliance also owns Resistance Records which sells music titles
such as "6 million more" and "Kremator - A Replay of the Final
Solution" advocating the repeat of Hitler's extermination of Jews and
southern europeans.
The National Alliance has strenghtened its ties with Arab World
terrorists and
dangerous Islamic extremists and even praised the 9/11 attacks!
"Neo-Nazi websites, including the largest umbrella organisation, the
National Alliance, show support for al-Qaeda. Billy Roper, the
alliance's membership coordinator posted a message within hours of the
11 September attacks, reading: 'Anyone who is willing to drive a plane
into a building to kill Jews is all right by me. I wish our members
had half as much testicular fortitude.'
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,582222,00.html
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User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: What if WWII was like today?	17 Aug 2005 07:01:59 PM

Why They Hate Us
by Joseph Sobran
Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so
large as to be almost inexpressible. It's Western
exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the
world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western
power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have
disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel
not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they
don't grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white
man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't
conscious of it. And superiority excites envy. Destroying
white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of
designated victims we call 'minorities.'
From Sobran's Newsletter, April 1997
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User: "Daniel Packman"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 01:32:26 PM

In article <RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn-tw@forethought.net>,
Ms Liberty <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote:

Considering the extremely strong anti-war sentiment prior to
WWII, these predictions seem particularly baseless.

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User: "Tom Betz"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 02:38:16 PM

Ms Liberty <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote in news:RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn-
tw@forethought.net:

What if WWII was like today?

Uh, Iraq never attacked, nor declared war on, the US.
George Bush's Unnecessary and Illegal Invasion and Occupation of Iraq bears
no resemblance whatsoever to to WWII.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
.

User: "Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 03:15:57 PM

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

Ms Liberty <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote in
news:RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn- tw@forethought.net:

What if WWII was like today?

Uh, Iraq never attacked, nor declared war on, the US.

Global islamist did! Saddam was supporting it!

George Bush's Unnecessary and Illegal Invasion and Occupation
of Iraq bears no resemblance whatsoever to to WWII.

Go to hell, America-hating liar!
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User: "Tom Betz"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 07:54:55 PM

Quoth "Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> in
news:Xns96AC912264153Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

Ms Liberty <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote in
news:RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn- tw@forethought.net:

What if WWII was like today?

Uh, Iraq never attacked, nor declared war on, the US.

Global islamist did! Saddam was supporting it!

You may repeat that lie as much as you like, but the fact remains
that one of the few people who hated Saddam Hussein more than
George Bush was Osama bin Laden. Hussein never supported bin
Laden, and the last thing Hussein wanted was the type of Islamic
Theocratic State that George Bush's Unnecessary and Illegal
Invasion and Failed Occupation of Iraq guarantees will end up
ruling at least least a third of what is now Iraq.
Iran's Ayatollahs and bin Laden are cheering this outcome. Both
Bush and Hussein defeated, and themselves strengthened, at the cost
of huge losses of American blood, treasure and international
standing.

George Bush's Unnecessary and Illegal Invasion and Occupation
of Iraq bears no resemblance whatsoever to to WWII.

Go to hell, America-hating liar!

Go ***** yourself, you schizophrenic Nazi dupe.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
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User: "Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 08:22:23 PM

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

Quoth "Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> in
news:Xns96AC912264153Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

Ms Liberty <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote in
news:RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn- tw@forethought.net:

What if WWII was like today?

Uh, Iraq never attacked, nor declared war on, the US.

Global islamist did! Saddam was supporting it!

You may repeat that lie as much as you like, but the fact
remains

The fact remains that Saddam WAS supporting terrorism. You're in
denial because you hate Bush so bad that you want to see the U.S.
fail.

that one of the few people who hated Saddam Hussein
more than George Bush was Osama bin Laden. Hussein never
supported bin Laden,

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.
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User: "Tom Betz"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	09 Aug 2005 10:26:38 AM

"Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> wrote in
news:Xns96ACC516D1D61Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So when do we invade Saudi Arabia, where the royal family held TELETHONS to
raise money for Hamas?
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
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User: "Sam Bam"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	09 Aug 2005 12:27:39 PM

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:

"Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> wrote in
news:Xns96ACC516D1D61Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So when do we invade Saudi Arabia, where the royal family held TELETHONS to
raise money for Hamas?

When we damned well please you piece of *****!
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User: "Tom Betz"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	09 Aug 2005 01:27:36 PM

Sam Bam <patriot@bailey.bz> wrote in
news:ppphf1l9oocdavh3vlf09k8vpg1gfspdsm@4ax.com:

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:

"Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> wrote in
news:Xns96ACC516D1D61Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So when do we invade Saudi Arabia, where the royal family held
TELETHONS to raise money for Hamas?

When we damned well please you piece of *****!

As soon as Bush stops holding hands with the Saudi King Abdullah.
<http://shorterlink.com/?4E3DR0>
And sucking face with him.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
.

User: "Sam Bam"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	09 Aug 2005 10:39:02 PM

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:27:36 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:

Sam Bam <patriot@bailey.bz> wrote in
news:ppphf1l9oocdavh3vlf09k8vpg1gfspdsm@4ax.com:

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:

"Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> wrote in
news:Xns96ACC516D1D61Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So when do we invade Saudi Arabia, where the royal family held
TELETHONS to raise money for Hamas?

When we damned well please you piece of *****!

As soon as Bush stops holding hands with the Saudi King Abdullah.

They'd have to dig him up first, he'd dead.
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User: "Tom Betz"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	10 Aug 2005 12:40:47 PM

Sam Bam <patriot@bailey.bz> wrote in
news:phtif1dqmh25fssjhp8huvh9dcnt08nt9d@4ax.com:

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:27:36 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:

Sam Bam <patriot@bailey.bz> wrote in
news:ppphf1l9oocdavh3vlf09k8vpg1gfspdsm@4ax.com:

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:

"Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> wrote in
news:Xns96ACC516D1D61Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So when do we invade Saudi Arabia, where the royal family held
TELETHONS to raise money for Hamas?

When we damned well please you piece of *****!

As soon as Bush stops holding hands with the Saudi King Abdullah.

They'd have to dig him up first, he'd dead.

No, Faud is dead. Abdullah is his successor, and is the guy Bush was
holding hands and sucking face with earlier this year.
But I guess I shouldn't expect an ignoramus like you to be up on current
events.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
.

User: "Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	09 Aug 2005 02:16:57 PM

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

"Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> wrote in
news:Xns96ACC516D1D61Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So when do we invade Saudi Arabia, where the royal family held
TELETHONS to raise money for Hamas?

Good question, write your reps.
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User: "bob wood"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	13 Aug 2005 07:19:07 AM

Americans love to live in the past they think they know. If you really knew
about that war you wouldnt want to re-live it all the time
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User: "Sam Bam"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	13 Aug 2005 09:33:42 AM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:19:07 GMT, "bob wood" <wod@aol.com> wrote:

Americans love to live in the past they think they know.

And Yuropeons don't?

If you really knew
about that war you wouldnt want to re-live it all the time

Who wants to "re-live" it?
You dolt.
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User: "bob wood"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	13 Aug 2005 04:26:27 PM

No the dont. They have progressed matured and moved out of the past.
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User: "Sam Bam"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	13 Aug 2005 11:34:01 PM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:26:27 GMT, "bob wood" <wod@aol.com> wrote:

No the dont.

plonk
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User: "Transition Zone"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today? . . war never declared	09 Aug 2005 03:46:30 AM

Socialism enslaves kills & loots wrote:

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

Quoth "Socialism enslaves kills & loots"
<Socialism_enslaves_kills_&_loots@nospam.red> in
news:Xns96AC912264153Socialismenslaveskil@216.196.97.142:

Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote :

Ms Liberty <MsLiberty@freedom.zzz> wrote in
news:RaednUy3SJFjP2rfRVn- tw@forethought.net:

What if WWII was like today?

Uh, Iraq never attacked, nor declared war on, the US.

Global islamist did! Saddam was supporting it!

You may repeat that lie as much as you like, but the fact
remains

The fact remains that Saddam WAS supporting terrorism. You're in
denial because you hate Bush so bad that you want to see the U.S.
fail.

that one of the few people who hated Saddam Hussein
more than George Bush was Osama bin Laden. Hussein never
supported bin Laden,

Not what I said, I said Saddam supported terrorism.

So did other non-oil dictators.
Why'd you chose him ??
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User: "You Know Who"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today? . . war never declared	09 Aug 2005 06:55:40 AM

In talk.politics.guns "Transition Zone" <mogulah@hotmail.com> wrote:
Strike Amendment XXII - re-elect George Bush in 2008
"http://www.petitiononline.com/rngeorge/petition.html"
.

User: "Scout"
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today? . . war never declared	09 Aug 2005 05:06:44 AM

It was declared.
Japan:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/declare.htm
Germany:
http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/constitutions/un/e_united_nations_declaration_1942.htm
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User: ""
Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 02:04:44 PM

Ms Liberty wrote:

In the first place, we would see Republicans....
Denouncing the War,
I remember, I was there...
In the campaign of 1940, Republicans had posters...
R oosevelt
A ND
W allace
Means a RAW deal
and
W allace
A nd
R oosevelt
Means WAR!!!!!WAR!!!!
Republicans bitterly opposed the war.
Also they opposed appropriations for military preparedness,
which is why we were ill prepared in 1942.
ALSO they even opposed Lend Lease. William Allen White
served as an intermediary between Roosevelt and Willkie,
could never convince Willkie to support Lend Lease, but
Willkie finally agreed he would not openly oppose it,
would just avoid commenting on it.
.

User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: What if WWII was like today?	08 Aug 2005 09:03:51 PM

The Germans removed the Jews from ruling over them. That is what
America needs to do:
Here are some quotes from a German pamphlet titled "Why the Aryan
Law?":
"In 1793 the famous philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, author of
"Speeches to the German Nation," wrote a pamphlet titled "A
Contribution to Correcting Judgments about the French Revolution." It
contained the following significant sentence:
"In nearly all the nations of Europe, a powerful, hostile government
is growing, and is at war with all the others, and sometimes oppresses
the people in dreadful ways: It is Jewry!"
The French Revolution, with its "ideas for the improvement of
humanity" thundered past, and in the noise the people who had believed
in world brotherhood entirely missed this serious warning. What Fichte
warned the word about then has today become fact in nearly all the
nations of the world. The Jewish people, once only tolerated, knew how
to raise a hue and cry about discrimination and persecution, winning
the sympathy of the world for the "poor Jews." They increasingly
infiltrated deep within our national organism, growing to have power
over every single area of our national life. The old saga, the "Edda,"
observes that one blocks a river at its source. The failure to do that
was the great mistake of the German people. Thank God, it is not too
late. Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler recognized the importance of the
problem for Germany's rebirth, and outlined its solution in his
program.
Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their
Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have
seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us
because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to
them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the
non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made
clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race
and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.
National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of
Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading
offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship
between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have
not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in
German national life. It is not a question of German-Jewish
coexistence, rather of making as great as possible a separation
between blood and blood.
Three things are involved here:
A knowledge of the basic principles of National Socialist racial
thinking,
An understanding of the growth and expansion of Jewry,
The dominant sociological position of Jewry, to show how it dominated
the German people economically, intellectually and politically..."
"In discussing the Jewish Question, even today one encounters
resistance and misunderstandings, especially in intellectual circles.
This can only be explained by the intellectual education of the
political past. This is especially evident when one discusses the
fundamental issues.
Whenever a new thought arises in the world and calls people to
practical action, the old world resists because it feels its
foundations threatened. Its old standpoint has ruled for decades, and
it looks uncomprehendingly at a new idea that does not fit into the
accustomed patterns of thinking. That is natural. When the new idea
and worldview are truly revolutionary, they are on a different level
of human thought and feeling, and there can be no compromise. Its
realization depends on people who support it, and who are ready to
fight to transform the life of the individual and of the nation in
every way..."
"In the long run, no idea is better suited to guarantee peace between
nations than National Socialist racial thinking, which calls for the
furtherance and maintenance of one's own race and one's own people,
and supports similar efforts on the part of other nations..."
"The new Germany that views its own race and ethnicity positively must
therefore distinguish within its territory between one race and
another, between one people and another. Mixing of blood harms both
sides. Race is an issue for every people if they are to live according
to their nature. The German people is not so arrogant as to believe
that is is the chosen people. The familiar quotation from Geibel, "The
world should enjoy German ways," should be understood in the context
of the dreams of world betterment of those past days.
The National Socialist racial viewpoint has clear consequences for the
relationship between Germans and Jews. People have often said that
National Socialism's approach to the racial question is purely
negative and destructive, and that its essential characteristic is
radical anti-Semitism. One must grant that we made the Jewish question
clearer than anyone else, and taught an entire generation that had
been taught to see all people the same to recognize the importance of
the Jewish question not only for our people, but for the entire world.
Our treatment of the Jewish problem in the years before we took power
must be seen as the political education of the German people, which
had lost its racial instincts to a dangerous degree.
The question took on its own nature in Germany, Many citizens had
their eyes opened, and the simultaneous appeal to all the heroic and
manly virtues of the German man resulted in a racial selection of
political fighters who today stand at the head of the new state.
Formerly, the Jewish question, as seen by the state, was a matter of
complete equality and the unhindered immigration of Jews from the
East. This is the best proof of how racial feeling and consciousness
had been lost. Our tone was not purely negative or the simple
rejection of others, rather the emphasis was on the positive values of
our own people. This does require noting that Jewry through its
Marxist class struggle leadership role and its international financial
measures aimed at Germany supported every kind of anti-national action
in the cultural and political fields. Jewry should not complain if its
anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other
country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of
anti-Semitism.
The starting point of the discussion is the scientific fact that the
Jew is different than the German. This is neither arrogant nor
boastful, it simply is the way things are. For us, the Jewish question
is a question between two peoples. Its characteristics are determined
by the racially determined differences between the two, and through
the unusual sociological and numerical development of Jewry in the
course of its history, developments that are particularly evident in
the last decades through a constantly growing process of foreign
infiltration that has reached an intolerable level for the German
people.
More than once over its history, the German people has absorbed
foreign elements, but they were racially identical or similar
population groups, as for example was the case with the Huguenots.
With the Jews, things are fundamentally different. They are seen
everywhere as foreigners, and see themselves that way as well. Walter
Rathenau said it most clearly as early as 1897: "How strange! In the
middle of German life there is a separate, foreign tribe that stands
out in every way with its hot-tempered behavior. An Asiatic horde has
settled on the sands of Mark Brandenburg." Einstein said something in
1931: "I have to laugh when I hear the phrase 'German citizen of the
Jewish faith.' These citizens first of all want nothing to do with my
poor Eastern European brothers, and second do not want to be sons of
my (Jewish) people, but only members of the Jewish cultural community.
Is that honest? Can a non-Jew respect such people? I am not a German
citizen. I am a Jew, and am happy to belong to the Jewish people."
The most remarkable thing about Jewry is that it has not disappeared
over the millennia, even though it lacks its own territory and
language. Even more remarkable is that it lacks the main
characteristic of a minority population, its own pockets of settlement
to which it could if necessary retreat. Only time will tell if
Palestine will someday fill this gap. That question is made more
difficult by the fact that the Arabs maintain their claim on
Palestine. Whatever the twists of history, the Jew has always remained
the same, whether as a grain speculator in ancient Rome or as a bank
or stock exchange potentate in the modern era. They were always able
to control the wealth of whole nations. Nations and peoples once their
contemporaries have vanished, leaving only words and crumbled
monuments behind; only the Jew remains. In ancient days we see him
carrying on his business in the trading centers of the Mediterranean.
In the Middle Ages he provided money for German nobles and free
cities. Today he rules the banks and stock exchanges of the whole
world, forcing the nations under the yoke of financial capitalism. The
power of this people of 15 million rests on these international
relations. This is how they seem to fulfill the commandment of Jehovah
- the world domination of the chosen people.
The secret of the Jewish people, which has enabled them to survive
through all of history's twists and turns, is that it has always
recognized the laws of blood, even anchoring them in the laws of its
religion. The consciousness of blood and family that believing Jews
have has been stronger than all the other forces of history, giving us
a unique example of a people without its own land and language, which
still meets the criteria for being a people, and which has outlasted
many other peoples.
This historic manifestation of Jewry, which is unique, brings to the
fore the question of the relationship between the host and guest
peoples. It has been answered in differing ways throughout history,
depending on the worldview and thinking then predominant.
Since the Jews were dispersed they have been held together by the laws
of their religion and their faith that they were the chosen people.
Until the middle of the 18th Century, Germans and Jews lived apart
from each other. The Jews had no opportunity to become involved in the
religious of political-intellectual life of their host people. On the
other hand, they could practice their own customs without
interference. They had their own religion and their own laws. During
the Middle Ages, the Ghetto was the way Jewry could maintain itself in
the midst of other peoples and fulfill its Jewish duties, which grew
out of its race, origins and laws. The values and ideals of other
peoples were not affected. This separation was only possible because
the views of the host people were as strong as those of the Jews.
According to the writer Grau: "There was no racial defilement or
baptism, no attempt to join a nation that one could never be a member
of, and no attempt to intellectually silence the host people." In the
Ghetto of the Middle Ages, the Jew developed his nature and
characteristics, which were later to become significant, while
maintaining the community of blood and race. The latter is
particularly important, since the strict physical separation between
the host and guest peoples maintained the foreign nature that we daily
see so clearly, now that the barriers between have long since fallen.
Even in the Middle Ages, the most important thing was not the
difference between the Christian and Mosaic faiths. Rather, there was
on the one hand the natural sense that the Jew was of a foreign race,
and on the other hand the strict law of blood which demanded a clear
separation if the Jews were to fulfill Jehovah's mission, which had
guided them from the beginning. Just this has always been kept in the
background by historians, who present the Ghetto as a tolerated asylum
for Jewish martyrs persecuted on account of their faith. There is a
gap to be filled here. The task of historians writing from our new
viewpoint will be to examine the portrait of the Ghetto of the Middle
Ages to discover its importance for the development of Jewry and the
relationship between the guest and host peoples. Even the Jewish side
is demanding that. O. Karbach criticizes historical writing because it
"in significant ways conceals the historical fact that the Jews in the
centuries before their emancipation possessed a legal standing that
was better than the greater part of the rest of the population, namely
complete or partial agricultural freedom. (Ordnung in der Judenfrage,
edited by E. Czermak, Reinhold, Vienna, 1933).
The barriers between Germans and Jews fell as a result of the
Enlightenment and the French Revolution. The path to Jewish world
domination would take a different direction than pious, observant Jews
had expected. Emancipation made it possible to build Jewish dominance
through secular means. With the disappearance of racial consciousness,
only religious differences seemed to remain. It seemed at the time
unjust to give someone a preferred position only because of his
religious beliefs, which are an entirely personal matter. At the time,
this was tied to a belief in human equality and freedom. It was
revolutionary. It shattered the church dogmas that had ruled for
centuries and was the foundation of liberal thinking during the last
two hundred years. The new goal was humanity itself, and nothing stood
in the way of racial mixing. Some had the quiet hope that assimilation
would mean the absorption of Jewry. Jewry itself, however, was more
than willing to use the opportunities of religious assimilation, which
opened the path to all important positions, even to political
leadership. As H. Heine said, "baptism was the ticket to European
culture." Gradually, an intermixing with the German people developed,
particularly in its cultural elite. Foreign blood infiltrated to a
degree that we realize only today now that the "Law to Reestablish a
Professional Bureaucracy" has exposed numerous sources of foreign
blood. This process has greatly accelerated during the last fourteen
years.
Today the age of raceless thinking is being displaced by the ideals of
human variability. Values are rooted in origin and territory, and each
group has a historic mission based on its own unique and eternal
values. Such new racial thinking will of course secure the opposition
of those who either through faith or reason still believe in the unity
of humanity in culture, social order and organization. The Jews will
naturally oppose any discussion of race, since the denial of any
significant differences between people is the foundation of his
infiltration of Western European society. The Jew finds any mention of
the racial question as an attack on his current existence. His leading
role in every anti-national area is characteristic of his mimicry, and
is necessary for his continued existence. That explains the phrase
"German citizen of the Jewish faith."
The recognition that the Jew is of a foreign and different race along
with the reawakening of German racial consciousness must necessarily
lead to a change in the relations between Germans and Jews.
There is one point to keep in mind before examining the statistics.
Only those people who claimed to be Jews and were members of the
Mosaic faith were counted as Jews, not those who for internal or
external reasons belonged to another religion, or those who claimed to
be dissident Jews and therefore did not belong to the standard groups.
This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in
the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather
those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether
of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians. That is just what the
supporters of the Talmud and the Old Testament always said. They
complained that the state opened all offices to those "without
character," to "Christmas Jews," even admitting them to the officer
corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased
significantly. The Jews are a race, and baptism does not in any way
change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German
people..."
Of course, the intellectual atmosphere that enabled the Jew to
infiltrate the German body politic quickly led the Jew himself to see
that conditions for his advancement were favorable, and that the way
to the top was open. He also realized what the population statistics
meant, indeed they were particularly clear to him, since 2/3 of his
kind lived in the big cities, the centers of the liberal worldview..."
"Nothing shows the differences between our people and the Jews more
clearly than their likes and dislikes for certain occupations. In some
occupations, particularly those that are most important for the nation
as a whole, the foreign influence on German life has reached an
intolerable extent not seen elsewhere in Europe. The preference for
certain occupations also gives us an interesting insight into the
spiritual nature of Jewry.
The following figures show how much critical occupations in Germany
have been infiltrated.
112,188 Jews, or 58.8%, far more than half, are employed in the area
of "commerce and transportation, including restaurants and taverns,"
but only 17.11% (3,248,145) of the population as a whole. In the area
of "industry and craft work, including mining and construction,"
19,318 Jews (25.85%) were employed, including 31.82% of foreigners.
For the population as a whole, the figure was 40.94% (7,771,799).
The figures in the field of "public administration, the judiciary, the
army and navy, churches, legal professionals and the independent
professions." 11,324 Jews were employed there, or 5.94% , over against
921,048 (4.85%) in the general population..."
In 1925, 0.81% of Jews were active as civil servants and the army and
navy, as opposed to 2.3% of the general population. In the church,
religious occupations, the legal system and the other independent
professions, the Jewish percentage is 4.3% as opposed to 2% of the
general population. This shows that the Jews are over-represented when
compared to the general population, particularly in the independent
professions.
The percentage of the Jewish population in government positions may
seem less than that of the general population, but the difference is
not as great as the figures first suggest. The most recent figures,
not yet entirely complete, suggest that a not insignificant number of
them are baptized Jews or dissidents formerly of the Jewish faith who
denied their Jewishness to gain an official position.
4.35% of Jews are employed in the medical and health care system,
including welfare, and 2.0% of foreign Jews. The figure for the
general population is 1.88%. The Jewish percentage is thus 2 1/2 times
as high as that of the general population.
In summary, Jewish occupational patterns differ from those of the rest
of the population. Jewry seems to have an aversion to agricultural
work, industrial labor and crafts. They are greatly over-represented
in commerce and transportation, including the entire banking system.
They are also over-represented in the independent professions and the
health care system. These figures alone demonstrate a clear difference
between the native German population and alien Jewry.
Very similar conditions prevail in all Western European nations and
also in North America, since Jews have spread throughout the world in
areas with growing industry and in cities that are centers of economic
and financial power. It is not true, as is often claimed, that the Jew
was systematically forced into commerce by the laws of the various
nations; rather, commerce particularly suits the Jew's nature. This is
supported by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, a scholar respected by the Jews. He
writes in his book The Jews of the Present (2nd edition, Cologne and
Leipzig, 1911, p. 45):
"Thanks to their significant commercial gifts (!), the Jews soon
enjoyed great success in commerce and industry. For 2000 years they
have seemed predestined to work in commerce. It is false to claim, as
some do, that Jews became merchants primarily because the Christians
denied them other occupations during the Middle Ages. The Jews did not
become merchants in Europe, rather they entered the profession in
growing numbers ever since the Babylonian Captivity in Syria, Egypt
and Babylon [because they dislike labor and prefer to have others work
for them! The Editor]. In Palestine until the dispersion they did live
primarily by agriculture. In the Diaspora, there was hardly anywhere
that the Jews lived by agriculture. The Middle Ages did not make them
into merchants. It only affirmed legally that which history had
already established. It is after all the rule that economic laws
generally do not create new conditions, but only legalize and regulate
that which already exists. The law would never have limited the Jews
to commerce in Europe if they had not already immigrated primarily as
merchants..."
Nearly all national economists agree that the Jews owe their role as
merchants not to chance, but to their excellent abilities as
merchants. As W. Sombart wrote: "The Jewish race is by nature the
incarnation of the capitalism-mercantile spirit." (Der moderne
Kapitalismus, Vol. 2, p. 349. Leipzig, 1902). Many others agree..."
"Similarly differences in the relative proportion of Jews by the
self-employed are evident in the medical field, which employs 0.5% of
the general population but 2.8% of the Jews, nearly six times as many.
Similar statistics are found in the cultural area (theater, film,
radio, education, teaching, etc.). The 0.4% of the general population
are employed there, 2.6% of the Jews, also about six times as many.
In the area of public administration and the judiciary, the percentage
of Jews in high positions is 2.0%, over against 1.3% of the general
population, nearly twice as high. The significance of these figures
becomes clear that when one realizes that the 2.3% of professional
Jews in public administration and the judiciary are in a branch where
the Jewish percentage of employees is only 0.81%. That means that the
Jews are especially represented in the important positions that
influence the whole government and leading branches of the economy.."
"The statistics may be interesting. The Jewish workers included 11,406
in industry, 2,220 in commerce and transportation, and 726 in
agriculture.
The following figures show most clearly the different social structure
of Jewry in Prussia over against the general population, and reveal
clearly Jewry's leading role in public life:.."
"On 19 May 1933 Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler gave an interview to
Bernard Ridder, an American journalist for the New York State
Newspaper. Discussing the Jewish Question in Germany, he said: "Should
I allow thousands of German-blooded people to be destroyed so that the
Jews can live and work in luxury while millions starve, falling victim
to Bolshevism out of desperation?"
Can the justice of his words be doubted when one recalls that,
according to the Prussian census of 16 June 1925 6.9% of all
independent pharmacists, 17.9% of all independent physicians, 4.8% of
all independent artists, 27% of all independent attorneys, 4.6% of
editors, 11% of theater directors, 7.5% of actors, and 14.8% of all
independent dentists were Jews! And these huge figures when the Jews
were only 1% of the population! Is that anything other than a
Jewdification of our entire cultural system?! And what would these
figures look like if one had had the ability to include baptized Jews
and dissidents?..."
"Berlin is the Jewish metropolis in Germany. The process of
Jewdification is considerably further along. That is understandable,
since one is in the immediate vicinity of the protective arms of
democracy and social democracy, where developments can occur
unhindered. Thus in Berlin on 16 June 1925 32.2% of the pharmacists
were Jews, as were 49.9% of the physicians, 7.5 of the graphic
artists, 50.2% of the attorneys, 8.5% of the editors, 14.2% of the
directors and theater heads, 12.3% of the actors and 37.5% of the
dentists.
These figures cry out for legal limitations on Jewry, and it is
surprising that former governments did not take the appropriate action
to tell the Jews "this far and no further."
The Jewish influence gave the rest of the world an entirely false
impression of the nature of the German people. Inside the Reich, they
poisoned the soul of the people, and all social and political
relationships. Until the national uprising, the leaders of the
National Socialist movement were persecuted, defamed and suppressed by
a system that was a willing tool in the hands of a foreign and
different race. The national revolution freed the German people from
this foreign influence, which had also dominated and ruined the German
press and public life in significant ways.
He who wants to understand the German revolution of 1933 must
understand that it had this goal: 'Germany must be governed by Germans
for Germans.' The central idea of the National Socialist revolution
was the longing of the German people to once more be master in every
area of its own life. As a great, confident people, we demand only
this of the other peoples: that they permit us, as their equals, to
govern ourselves as we wish and find our own way to happiness (Reich
Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick)..."
"The Jewdification of our colleges and universities over the years has
reached almost frightening proportions. We begin with a publication
from 1931. Karl Hoppmann, in his volume "On the State of Jewdification
in the Academic professions" found the following figures:
1. University of Berlin:
Medical faculty . . . . over 50%
Philosophical faculty . . . . 25%
2. University of G�ttingen, 32% of the professors were Jewish:
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . .40.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 23.0%
3. University of Breslau
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.0%
4. University of Frankfurt (Main)
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 28.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.0%
Economics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28.0%
Jewry has a dominating role on the stock exchange. The board of the
Berlin stock exchange is almost exclusively Jewish. In the various
committees, the percentage of the Jewish race is sometimes many times
as high as the Aryan. The committees include:
That means that 117 or 147 members are Jews, or nearly 80%.
The extent of the Jewdification of German theater and film is evident
from 1931 figures. Of 234 theater directors, 118 (50.4%) were Jews, 92
(39.3%) were non-Jewish.
Berlin led in this area as well, with 23 of 29 theater directors (80%)
Jewish.
The situation in film is similar. The Viennese Catholic periodical
"Sch�nere Zukunft," which certainly cannot be accused of
anti-Semitism, wrote the following in its 3 February 1929 issue:
"The percentage of Jewry in today's film industry is so high, at least
by us in Germany, that there is only a tiny part left for Christian
firms."
Jewry has long sought political influence as well. This formerly
happened in covert ways, mostly through direct or indirect control of
money matters. Nearly every noble once had his financial Jew. Since
1848, the birth of political parties in Germany, Jewry has openly
sought to become a political power. The Jew Marx was the founder of
Marxist doctrine, the Jew Lassalle was the founder of the Social
Democratic Party. The founders of the Independent Social Democratic
Party of Germany were the Jews Bernstein, Haase, Kautsky, Hilferding,
Cohn, Davidsohn, Simon, Rosenfeld, Eisner, Levi, etc. Carl Liebknecht
and Rosa Luxemberg were the leaders of the Communist Party, and
recently the Jews Rosenfeld and Seydewitz founded the Socialist
Workers Party. Jews sat in the press offices and the various editorial
offices of party newspapers, and above all in the various
parliamentary factions..."
"We think it necessary to mention that the Communist wave that
threatened to destroy Germany politically, economically and
intellectually can primarily be traced back to Jewry.
Is it any wonder that the Jew is arrogant? The greater the Jewish
influence the more secure they feel, and the more ominously and
clearly their character and goals becomes clear: Pride, intolerance
and superiority on the one hand, a drive for world domination on the
other. Several pointed Jewish statements are examples:
Hochmut: The familiar "Dorfgeschichte"-Auerbach says: "We Jews are the
most intelligent race." "We are the chosen ones," says Dr. Berhard
Cohn (J�disch-Politische Streitfragen, 20, 22). He continues: "We may
carry our head high and demand particular respect. We must not only be
treated equally, but better. We deserve the particular respect of
other peoples."
Rabbi Dr. Rulf wrote a book ("Aruchas bar-Ammni," Israel's Healing,
Frankfurt a. M. 1883) in which he says: "The Jewish people is a
blessing for all peoples. The blessing has followed on the heels of
the Jews. A whole world lives from the Jews, who feed everyone, and
everywhere spread wealth and pleasure, comfort and prosperity. Only
the commerce of the Jews creates value. Work alone does not do that.
Half of the world's population would starve without the Jews."
The Jew Dr. Duschak wrote: "The world could not exist without the
Jews." The well-known Jew Sacher-Masoch explained the hatred of
anti-Semites against the Jews in this way: It is the same hatred a
Negro feels against the whites because of their superiority.
That the Jews even went so far as to suggest to Bismark that he make
the Jewish Day of Atonement a national holiday is certainly no sign of
modesty.
Intolerance: The Jew Klausner (Society, edited by Conrad, Volume 12)
wrote: "Anti-Semitism and criminality are nearly the same thing. There
are criminals who were not anti-Semites, but no anti-Semites who were
not criminals."
The work by Dr. E. Fuchs. "The Future of the Jews," (Berlin,
Philo-Verlag, 1924) judges our greatest historians, Hartmann and
Treitschke, who see the Jews as our misfortune: "Men blinded by
prejudice and hatred. Small, tiny men."
World Domination: The Jewish attorney Maurthner in Vienna said back in
the 1880's: "It is not just a matter of fighting anti-Semitism. We
want to oppose it with Jewish domination!"
They made the attempt. If the German people had not recovered their
senses at the last moment, and if they had not had a Fuehrer and
Chancellor named Adolf Hitler who recognized the danger and woke the
German people, we would have fallen into slavery. As we have already
noted, the Jew has always known how to rouse sympathy when things were
rough for him. Consider this report from the meeting of the PEN Club
in Ragusa at the end of May of last year: "Schalom Asch in his keynote
address noted that the suffering of the Jews in Germany had aroused
the sympathy of the entire world. Only the German government remained
untouched. He claimed the Jews has given Germany its deepest thoughts,
its most beautiful songs, its greatest poets, artists and
philosophers. Today one had crucified them in Germany and covered them
with their own blood." Mr. Schalom Asch began crying in the midst of
these outrageous lies. He spoke in the hope that his words would be
heard for the sake of justice and humanity throughout the world.
The Jew Asch cries! The German people are not moved. They want no
torture or persecution, but also no unjustified sympathy, only
justice! Remember always the worlds of Field Marshall Moltke: "The Jew
is a state within the state." Remember also the works of our great
historian Mommsen: "In antiquity too the Jew was the ferment of
cosmopolitanism and national decomposition." And remember Goethe: "The
Israelites have never done much; they possess few virtues, and most of
the deficiencies of other peoples!"
The Racial Question has an important role in the laws of other
nations, though other peoples and races are affected than in the
German Reich. It is in no way new or unusual that the German Reich is
active in this area. Contrary to opinions that surface here and there,
our laws are in no way directed against the Jewish religion, its
practice, or the freedom of the Jewish faith.
The German Reich has done nothing but introduce constitutional
legislation to provide the kind of civil service necessary to
guarantee the secure administration of the Reich. The laws do not
render it impossible for a citizen of a foreign state to become a
civil servant. Indeed, if he is appointed to such a position, he
receives full citizenship in the Reich. German civil servants should
however be of Aryan descent. The so-called Aryan Law requires that
each civil servant be of German blood. Since the vast majority of
non-Aryan civil servants were Jews, the first guidelines to the law
paid particular attention to those who were members of the Jewish
race. But we did not simply throw out the non-Aryan civil servants,
but retired them with honor and a pension. The people's state could
hardly proceed in a more legal and mild manner. Germany did not want
to attack Jewry wildly, rather only deal with its results, is clear
from the fact that the Law of 7 April 1933 left untouched all
non-Aryan civil servants who had been appointed before 1 August 1914,
and by the fact that the private sphere not affected. Some complain
that the law extends to half and quarter Aryans. The answer is that
the foreign influence in the civil service had grown to such a
dangerous extent that it was almost impossible for young Germans to
enter these professions." (Reich Minister of the Interior Dr.
Frick..."
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Title: Re: What if WWII was like today?	09 Aug 2005 11:00:15 AM

Ms Liberty wrote:

London would not even exist.
The retards in Parliament would have changed
the name to New New York, in Honour of
The Duke Of China, who freed
The Rose Garden From The Evil Empire Japanese Blossom People.

2. An anonymous tip revealing nuclear work at a remote New
Mexican lab has set off a string of protests, with people
chanting, "Monkey see, monkey do! Just because Hitler and the
Japanese are trying to develop a nuclear weapon does that mean we
also have to?"

But since it would have been Roanld Reagean
and UCLA that leaked that information, it
wouldn't matter. Since El Savador and M-16
are the greateat evils that ever threatened
The Emprire Of Mexico.

3. College protesters against the Allied occupation of West
Germany, call for Allied troops to leave. Said one protester, "If
America and its allies brought their troops home, I have no doubt
that the foreign insurgents presently infiltrating West Germany
will also simply leave and go home as well."

College Protesters would do exactly what they in WWI:
Maintain their moron Status Quo in
The AT&T Secretarial pool,
be shot by Ford Night Watchman,
and be unemployed.

4. Dozens Die in Allied Strike and Nazi Attack! Allied forces
killed 24 alleged Nazi insurgents yesterday after coming under
attack.

That would only work if it was a Brown Shirt Attack,
NAZI's, Commies, and Europeans themselves were atucally
too stupid to even undertand anything except sunken submarines.

But those were Paris Streets that were safe in WWII.
The idiot Germans couldn't even keep Rome Streets Safe.

--
Ms Liberty
United States of America

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