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User: "DGVREIMAN"
Date: 04 Feb 2006 06:10:58 PM
Object: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW
WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW
© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.
For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon. I said all
diplomacy will fail. The reason I cited was simple:
Radical Religion.
The Iranians have been building and exporting terrorist militias
for decades. They recruit child suicide bombers with TV cartoons
directed at small children, they used children armies, locked arm
in arm, to sweep Iraqi mine fields during the Iraq/Iranian war.
They regularly recruit the insane, or mentally handicapped to
carry their suicide bombs, and they pay the families of their
suicide bombers handsomely after a family member carries out a
suicide murder attack. And if that is not enough, many of the
children they used as human mine sweepers during the
Iranian/Iraqi war were found with high levels of LSD and other
drugs in their tiny bodies.
So much for the love of "Mohammed" - if that is what the Iranians
call "love" then we sure as hell do not need any hate running
about.
The Iranians regularly and with great glee also specifically
target small children both in Israel and now in Iraq for
slaughter.
For decades the Iranian Ayatollahs have been telling all Muslim
people in the world that radical Islam is the only true religion,
and Allah is radical and Allah will protect them and help the
radical Islamic armies defeat the infidel invaders.
And after all those years of howling and barking their witch
doctors' nonsense to the Muslim world, did we really believe they
would just lay down their arms and go home because we asked
politely to do so? Maybe Jihad Cindy Sheehan is dumb enough to
believe such nonsense, but I sure am not.
So, of course, I was right again. I told you so.
What Happened and What Will Happen
Today, with a vote of 27 to 3, and five abstentions (Cuba, Syria
and of course Venezuela voted against the resolution) the Useless
Nations voted to send this issue to an even more useless body
known as the Security Council, or a.k.a. the "Stall Council."
In response to this example of overwhelming solidarity among all
of the free nations of the world, Iran responded with; "all
diplomacy is over in respect to them stopping the enrichment of
their uranium" and "all future inspections by the IAEA will not
be allowed." (Or words to that effect).
So what else is new?
We already knew Iran was going to find a way to become
belligerent as in the past when Iran belligerently confronted our
Don Knotts President (Jimmy ("I Hav Sinned") Carter) or the big
bellflower himself, "Cut and Run and Appease" Bill and Hillary
Clinton, Iran always forced those "leaders" to back down, run and
hide, cower in the closet, pee their pants, etc. etc . . . And if
they didn't back down Iran simply bombed a few more Marine
Barracks, slaughtered a few more mobs of children begging for
candy, or blew up a few more apartment buildings, and the White
House trembled in political fear that it just might be called on
to actually do something to protect the American people during
its watch - so Iran always got what it wanted in the past, and it
believes it can use the same bluster and murder tactics to get
its nuclear bombs.
But now things are different. The proverbable "rock" has
encountered the proverable "hard place." And there is now a
Cowboy occupying the White House and the "Cowboy way" is to fight
back and not run and hide like the "Screaming Liberal" way.
(Thank God for our last few real Cowboys say I. It looks like we
sure as hell are going to need them).
Meanwhile, look for Iran to now attempt to purchase nuclear
weapons from North Korea, or secretly from Pakistan. Iran knows
that if the world is united against it building nuclear weapons,
then all it needs to do is buy them secretly, and then continue
to argue and stall over a nuclear weapon program that is going to
go forward no matter what deals, offers, diplomacy is ultimately
offered to Iran. Yet if Iran can purchase a few nukes, then when
it is embargoed, it can use those nukes as blackmail to release
the embargo.
If Iran does not secure any nuclear weapons from North Korea or
Pakistan, then look for it to saber rattle with its huge
stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons - which will be
loaded in its thousands of missiles and all missiles will be
targeted toward: (1) Israel, (2) Our troops in Iraq, (3) Kuwait.
Look for bluster and blackmail from the Ayatollahs over this
nuclear issue and nothing else other than stalling double talk
and false promises.
The Ayatollahs simply cannot back down ever, regardless. If they
did, it would be tantamount to admitting that Allah is not on
their side, and the Christian/Jew God is greater than Allah. To
these pea brains, they actually believe that God decides who wins
wars.
The Ayatollahs might be right about God determining who will win
this war - but I still say "Praise God" but pass the Tactical
Nukes.
What we need to use to get to those deep Iranian underground
nuclear weapon plants, and those stockpiles of Chemical and
Biological weapons Iran possesses that are also buried
underground, are Tactical Nuclear weapons that can use an initial
explosion to drive the main charge deep underground before it is
detonated. (There might be some conventional weapons as well that
could do the job but if they exist I don't know about them - the
Iranian nuclear, biological and chemical weapon plants are buried
too deep for typical bunker buster type weapons, not unless
several of those weapons could be used repeatedly - which would
be akin to using the first few bombs to dig a deep hole for the
last bomb to explode in).
But before we can use the kind of weapon that we must use to stop
Iran from stockpiling nuclear weapons and starting a middle
eastern nuclear arms race, we should first bring NATO on board,
and allow this operation to be strictly a NATO operation - with
American Generals in charge of course. If not, then the Screaming
Liberal Army will have a field day blaming the USA for the first
to use Nuclear Weapons in this war.
Nevertheless, what good are our great and powerful weapons if we
do not have the political resolve to use them when we are
confronted with a clear and present danger like Iran? Where is a
Harry Truman when you really need one?
Someone in our Government must bite the political bullet and
start talking about our military options with Iran - as I
absolutely guarantee you there will be no other option that will
eliminate this Iranian threat to the world.
Moreover, note that we just helped to create another state worse
than Iran. It will be called the new Palestinian State ruled by
yet another Iranian militia known as Hamas. They will be the ones
building nukes next if we do not stop Iran now.
The possibility of mushroom clouds over the world just got a
little more likely today. Too likely if you ask me. Waiting for
Iran to give WMD to terrorists, including its Chemical and
Biological weapons, is not an option we can live with. And since
Iran itself has proclaimed to the world "the diplomacy is over"
then what the hell are we waiting for - doomsday?
Doug Grant (Tm)
.

User: "Bill"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 04 Feb 2006 07:57:53 PM
"DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET> wrote in message
news:oaCdnSoL_8wS33jenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon.

Yes, you've been running off at the mouth for quite a while, Doogie. But
Your pompous self importante and arrogant, know it all attitude, has
destroyed your credibility and branded you as a liar and a flunkey for your
pay- masters in Israel.

So, of course, I was right again. I told you so.

Your arrogance just has no limit Doogie You also told us it was a great
idea to invade Iraq, a country that never attacked us; that it would be a
cake walk and would pay for itself out of oil revenues, as we gathered up
the weapons of mass destruction they had stockpiled while the Iraqi people
strewed flowers in our path. You've been wrong so often and so stupidly
I'm amazed you have the chutzpah (is that the right word) to show up on the
Internet. It's amazing what a few shekels will buy these days.


But now things are different. The proverbable "rock" has
encountered the proverable "hard place."

Try "provebial". There is no such word as "proverable". Better yet, go
back to grammar school and learn the English language.
And there is now a

Cowboy occupying the White House and the "Cowboy way" is to fight
back and not run and hide like the "Screaming Liberal" way.

Fight "BACK " ? But Iraq did not attack us. Afghanistan did not attack us.
We can't fight BACK until someone attacks us first. No one believes radical
Muslims would be up in arms against us if we had not meddled in their part
of the world first.

(Thank God for our last few real Cowboys say I. It looks like we
sure as hell are going to need them).

What we need is not a cowboy but a statesman who understands that we all
have to live together on this planet and just as we avoided nuclear war
with the Soviet Union and with Mao Tse Tung we can avoid it with a few goat
herders in the mid east. Nuclear weapons have given us and others a very
good reason to be very careful of what we do and say. Your inflamatory and
hate filled messages make it clear that you don't understand that and never
did. Previous presidents, ( whom you hold in such contempt), deserve our
respect and thanks for using deterence to avoid nuclear war. I distrust a
president who has never even learned to PRONOUNCE the word nuclear.

Meanwhile, look for Iran to now attempt to purchase nuclear
weapons from North Korea, or secretly from Pakistan.

Why do you assume they have not done so already ? Is it because you're
totally indifferent to what they may do in case of a US attack, as long as
they don't do it to Israel ?

What we need to use to get to those deep Iranian underground
nuclear weapon plants, and those stockpiles of Chemical and
Biological weapons Iran possesses that are also buried......

Your simplistic blow- em- to- hell plan might make a good third rate movie
Doogie. But it's a stupid idea totally lacking in any kind of scientific
support or reason to believe it will work.


Nevertheless, what good are our great and powerful weapons if we
do not have the political resolve to use them when we are
confronted with a clear and present danger like Iran?

But there IS no clear and present danger to the US. And do you deny
our weapons have proved to be VERY useful in keeping us out of a nuclear
war with the Soviet Union ? This "What good are they" argument is a
stupid one and even you should be able to realize that.


Someone in our Government must bite the political bullet and
start talking about our military options with Iran - as I
absolutely guarantee you there will be no other option that will
eliminate this Iranian threat to the world.

Is there any difference between your guarantee and your absolute
guarantee ? Your arrogant and pompous know- it- all- -ism is showing again
Doogie.
And since Iran itself has proclaimed to the world "the diplomacy is over"

then what the hell are we waiting for - doomsday?

The real danger is to Israel. What the hell are THEY waiting for ?
Can't they use their stockpile of weapons to dig those big holes you
envision Doogie ? Do they hesitate because Iran may already HAVE nuclear
weapons and retaliation to an attack by Israel could mean the END of Israel.
Game Set and Match. Is that why you'd like the US to initiate nuclear war,
Doogie ? Because to you, American blood comes cheaper than that of the
Israelis ?


.

User: "j murphy"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 06 Feb 2006 08:18:04 AM
DGVREIMAN wrote:

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon. I said all
diplomacy will fail. The reason I cited was simple:

snipped
If it were not fo kllinag a lot of innocent normal People in Iran I
think turning it into a glass plain would be a solution. But I fear such
use of Nuclear Arms would embolden our current "leader" to be much
bolder with his "mandate" and reach into other areas of the world. Bush
is insane with greed and contempt for average Americans who he feels are
against him and bettter managed with a machanized or computerized
managment monitoring.
.

User: "Weber"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 11 Feb 2006 10:00:02 PM
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:10:58 -0500, "DGVREIMAN" <DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET>
wrote:

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

long rant snipped, but ....


The Iranians have been building and exporting terrorist militias
for decades.

Yes, with support from the Reagan government and, of course, with the
current Bush government selecting felons from that period for high
policy positions.
Perhaps instead of spending untold billions in attacking this Iranian
policy we can start in the U.S. with the Justice Department rounding
up the Ollie North's and Poindexters involved in arming the Iranian
fanatics.
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User: "DrRobert J. Ragge"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 04 Feb 2006 06:32:00 PM
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:10:58 -0500, DGVREIMAN wrote:

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon. I said all
diplomacy will fail. The reason I cited was simple:

Radical Religion.

The Iranians have been building and exporting terrorist militias
for decades. They recruit child suicide bombers with TV cartoons
directed at small children, they used children armies, locked arm
in arm, to sweep Iraqi mine fields during the Iraq/Iranian war.
They regularly recruit the insane, or mentally handicapped to
carry their suicide bombs, and they pay the families of their
suicide bombers handsomely after a family member carries out a
suicide murder attack. And if that is not enough, many of the
children they used as human mine sweepers during the
Iranian/Iraqi war were found with high levels of LSD and other
drugs in their tiny bodies.

So much for the love of "Mohammed" - if that is what the Iranians
call "love" then we sure as hell do not need any hate running
about.

The Iranians regularly and with great glee also specifically
target small children both in Israel and now in Iraq for
slaughter.

For decades the Iranian Ayatollahs have been telling all Muslim
people in the world that radical Islam is the only true religion,
and Allah is radical and Allah will protect them and help the
radical Islamic armies defeat the infidel invaders.

And after all those years of howling and barking their witch
doctors' nonsense to the Muslim world, did we really believe they
would just lay down their arms and go home because we asked
politely to do so? Maybe Jihad Cindy Sheehan is dumb enough to
believe such nonsense, but I sure am not.

So, of course, I was right again. I told you so.

What Happened and What Will Happen

Today, with a vote of 27 to 3, and five abstentions (Cuba, Syria
and of course Venezuela voted against the resolution) the Useless
Nations voted to send this issue to an even more useless body
known as the Security Council, or a.k.a. the "Stall Council."

In response to this example of overwhelming solidarity among all
of the free nations of the world, Iran responded with; "all
diplomacy is over in respect to them stopping the enrichment of
their uranium" and "all future inspections by the IAEA will not
be allowed." (Or words to that effect).

So what else is new?

We already knew Iran was going to find a way to become
belligerent as in the past when Iran belligerently confronted our
Don Knotts President (Jimmy ("I Hav Sinned") Carter) or the big
bellflower himself, "Cut and Run and Appease" Bill and Hillary
Clinton, Iran always forced those "leaders" to back down, run and
hide, cower in the closet, pee their pants, etc. etc . . . And if
they didn't back down Iran simply bombed a few more Marine
Barracks, slaughtered a few more mobs of children begging for
candy, or blew up a few more apartment buildings, and the White
House trembled in political fear that it just might be called on
to actually do something to protect the American people during
its watch - so Iran always got what it wanted in the past, and it
believes it can use the same bluster and murder tactics to get
its nuclear bombs.

But now things are different. The proverbable "rock" has
encountered the proverable "hard place." And there is now a
Cowboy occupying the White House and the "Cowboy way" is to fight
back and not run and hide like the "Screaming Liberal" way.

(Thank God for our last few real Cowboys say I. It looks like we
sure as hell are going to need them).

Meanwhile, look for Iran to now attempt to purchase nuclear
weapons from North Korea, or secretly from Pakistan. Iran knows
that if the world is united against it building nuclear weapons,
then all it needs to do is buy them secretly, and then continue
to argue and stall over a nuclear weapon program that is going to
go forward no matter what deals, offers, diplomacy is ultimately
offered to Iran. Yet if Iran can purchase a few nukes, then when
it is embargoed, it can use those nukes as blackmail to release
the embargo.

If Iran does not secure any nuclear weapons from North Korea or
Pakistan, then look for it to saber rattle with its huge
stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons - which will be
loaded in its thousands of missiles and all missiles will be
targeted toward: (1) Israel, (2) Our troops in Iraq, (3) Kuwait.
Look for bluster and blackmail from the Ayatollahs over this
nuclear issue and nothing else other than stalling double talk
and false promises.

The Ayatollahs simply cannot back down ever, regardless. If they
did, it would be tantamount to admitting that Allah is not on
their side, and the Christian/Jew God is greater than Allah. To
these pea brains, they actually believe that God decides who wins
wars.

The Ayatollahs might be right about God determining who will win
this war - but I still say "Praise God" but pass the Tactical
Nukes.

What we need to use to get to those deep Iranian underground
nuclear weapon plants, and those stockpiles of Chemical and
Biological weapons Iran possesses that are also buried
underground, are Tactical Nuclear weapons that can use an initial
explosion to drive the main charge deep underground before it is
detonated. (There might be some conventional weapons as well that
could do the job but if they exist I don't know about them - the
Iranian nuclear, biological and chemical weapon plants are buried
too deep for typical bunker buster type weapons, not unless
several of those weapons could be used repeatedly - which would
be akin to using the first few bombs to dig a deep hole for the
last bomb to explode in).

But before we can use the kind of weapon that we must use to stop
Iran from stockpiling nuclear weapons and starting a middle
eastern nuclear arms race, we should first bring NATO on board,
and allow this operation to be strictly a NATO operation - with
American Generals in charge of course. If not, then the Screaming
Liberal Army will have a field day blaming the USA for the first
to use Nuclear Weapons in this war.

Nevertheless, what good are our great and powerful weapons if we
do not have the political resolve to use them when we are
confronted with a clear and present danger like Iran? Where is a
Harry Truman when you really need one?

Someone in our Government must bite the political bullet and
start talking about our military options with Iran - as I
absolutely guarantee you there will be no other option that will
eliminate this Iranian threat to the world.

Moreover, note that we just helped to create another state worse
than Iran. It will be called the new Palestinian State ruled by
yet another Iranian militia known as Hamas. They will be the ones
building nukes next if we do not stop Iran now.

The possibility of mushroom clouds over the world just got a
little more likely today. Too likely if you ask me. Waiting for
Iran to give WMD to terrorists, including its Chemical and
Biological weapons, is not an option we can live with. And since
Iran itself has proclaimed to the world "the diplomacy is over"
then what the hell are we waiting for - doomsday?



Doug Grant (Tm)

Doug
I'm going to have to cancel your monday afternoon session, call my
receptionist for a new appointment
Dr. Ragge
.
User: "DGVREIMAN"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 05 Feb 2006 01:22:56 PM



On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:47:09 +1000, Zednik wrote:

euthenasia might be more effective

"DrRobert J. Ragge" <RJ.Ragge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:j3kkksn78db4$.1caepjzhg8oca.dlg@40tude.net...

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:10:58 -0500, DGVREIMAN wrote:

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran
would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon. I said all
diplomacy will fail. The reason I cited was simple:

Radical Religion.

The Iranians have been building and exporting terrorist
militias
for decades. They recruit child suicide bombers with TV
cartoons
directed at small children, they used children armies,
locked arm
in arm, to sweep Iraqi mine fields during the Iraq/Iranian
war.
They regularly recruit the insane, or mentally handicapped
to
carry their suicide bombs, and they pay the families of
their
suicide bombers handsomely after a family member carries out
a
suicide murder attack. And if that is not enough, many of
the
children they used as human mine sweepers during the
Iranian/Iraqi war were found with high levels of LSD and
other
drugs in their tiny bodies.

So much for the love of "Mohammed" - if that is what the
Iranians
call "love" then we sure as hell do not need any hate
running
about.

The Iranians regularly and with great glee also specifically
target small children both in Israel and now in Iraq for
slaughter.

For decades the Iranian Ayatollahs have been telling all
Muslim
people in the world that radical Islam is the only true
religion,
and Allah is radical and Allah will protect them and help
the
radical Islamic armies defeat the infidel invaders.

And after all those years of howling and barking their witch
doctors' nonsense to the Muslim world, did we really believe
they
would just lay down their arms and go home because we asked
politely to do so? Maybe Jihad Cindy Sheehan is dumb enough
to
believe such nonsense, but I sure am not.

So, of course, I was right again. I told you so.

What Happened and What Will Happen

Today, with a vote of 27 to 3, and five abstentions (Cuba,
Syria
and of course Venezuela voted against the resolution) the
Useless
Nations voted to send this issue to an even more useless
body
known as the Security Council, or a.k.a. the "Stall
Council."

In response to this example of overwhelming solidarity among
all
of the free nations of the world, Iran responded with; "all
diplomacy is over in respect to them stopping the enrichment
of
their uranium" and "all future inspections by the IAEA will
not
be allowed." (Or words to that effect).

So what else is new?

We already knew Iran was going to find a way to become
belligerent as in the past when Iran belligerently
confronted our
Don Knotts President (Jimmy ("I Hav Sinned") Carter) or the
big
bellflower himself, "Cut and Run and Appease" Bill and
Hillary
Clinton, Iran always forced those "leaders" to back down,
run and
hide, cower in the closet, pee their pants, etc. etc . . .
And if
they didn't back down Iran simply bombed a few more Marine
Barracks, slaughtered a few more mobs of children begging
for
candy, or blew up a few more apartment buildings, and the
White
House trembled in political fear that it just might be
called on
to actually do something to protect the American people
during
its watch - so Iran always got what it wanted in the past,
and it
believes it can use the same bluster and murder tactics to
get
its nuclear bombs.

But now things are different. The proverbable "rock" has
encountered the proverable "hard place." And there is now a
Cowboy occupying the White House and the "Cowboy way" is to
fight
back and not run and hide like the "Screaming Liberal" way.

(Thank God for our last few real Cowboys say I. It looks
like we
sure as hell are going to need them).

Meanwhile, look for Iran to now attempt to purchase nuclear
weapons from North Korea, or secretly from Pakistan. Iran
knows
that if the world is united against it building nuclear
weapons,
then all it needs to do is buy them secretly, and then
continue
to argue and stall over a nuclear weapon program that is
going to
go forward no matter what deals, offers, diplomacy is
ultimately
offered to Iran. Yet if Iran can purchase a few nukes, then
when
it is embargoed, it can use those nukes as blackmail to
release
the embargo.

If Iran does not secure any nuclear weapons from North Korea
or
Pakistan, then look for it to saber rattle with its huge
stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons - which will
be
loaded in its thousands of missiles and all missiles will be
targeted toward: (1) Israel, (2) Our troops in Iraq, (3)
Kuwait.
Look for bluster and blackmail from the Ayatollahs over this
nuclear issue and nothing else other than stalling double
talk
and false promises.

The Ayatollahs simply cannot back down ever, regardless. If
they
did, it would be tantamount to admitting that Allah is not
on
their side, and the Christian/Jew God is greater than Allah.
To
these pea brains, they actually believe that God decides who
wins
wars.

The Ayatollahs might be right about God determining who will
win
this war - but I still say "Praise God" but pass the
Tactical
Nukes.

What we need to use to get to those deep Iranian underground
nuclear weapon plants, and those stockpiles of Chemical and
Biological weapons Iran possesses that are also buried
underground, are Tactical Nuclear weapons that can use an
initial
explosion to drive the main charge deep underground before
it is
detonated. (There might be some conventional weapons as well
that
could do the job but if they exist I don't know about them -
the
Iranian nuclear, biological and chemical weapon plants are
buried
too deep for typical bunker buster type weapons, not unless
several of those weapons could be used repeatedly - which
would
be akin to using the first few bombs to dig a deep hole for
the
last bomb to explode in).

But before we can use the kind of weapon that we must use to
stop
Iran from stockpiling nuclear weapons and starting a middle
eastern nuclear arms race, we should first bring NATO on
board,
and allow this operation to be strictly a NATO operation -
with
American Generals in charge of course. If not, then the
Screaming
Liberal Army will have a field day blaming the USA for the
first
to use Nuclear Weapons in this war.

Nevertheless, what good are our great and powerful weapons
if we
do not have the political resolve to use them when we are
confronted with a clear and present danger like Iran? Where
is a
Harry Truman when you really need one?

Someone in our Government must bite the political bullet and
start talking about our military options with Iran - as I
absolutely guarantee you there will be no other option that
will
eliminate this Iranian threat to the world.

Moreover, note that we just helped to create another state
worse
than Iran. It will be called the new Palestinian State ruled
by
yet another Iranian militia known as Hamas. They will be the
ones
building nukes next if we do not stop Iran now.

The possibility of mushroom clouds over the world just got a
little more likely today. Too likely if you ask me. Waiting
for
Iran to give WMD to terrorists, including its Chemical and
Biological weapons, is not an option we can live with. And
since
Iran itself has proclaimed to the world "the diplomacy is
over"
then what the hell are we waiting for - doomsday?



Doug Grant (Tm)


Doug

I'm going to have to cancel your monday afternoon session,
call my
receptionist for a new appointment

Dr. Ragge

"Dr Robert J. Ragge" <RJ.Ragge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vrirg5juw5j9.1b8vqwgq1k7u.dlg@40tude.net...

I'll pass on your suggestion to Doug when he comes in for his
new
appointment.

Dr. Ragge

Doug Says: Now the BS Brooks smear merchants are forging
Doctor's names along with forged FBI documents, false statements
they attribute to me, and malicious libel of all sorts and
descriptions. I guess they believe one more forgery they can use
to try and defame me is nothing compared to all the forgeries
they have produced already - "might as well be hung as a sheep
than a lamb" their pea brains must be figuring.
No doubt the lack of ethics and the general immorality of the BS
Nigel Brooks gang is glaring - and it is something all those that
ever read their posts in the future should be apprised of; -
Fact: You just cannot believe anything this smear merchant gang
says - they are completely off the deep end with their fraud and
forgeries - and this post is a classic example.
I do not have any appointments with Dr. Ragge - never had, and
probably never will. The lies and forgeries from this BS Brook's
gang member alias are obvious.
Doug Grant (Tm)
.
User: "Leif Erikson"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 05 Feb 2006 02:53:17 PM
DGVREIMAN wrote:



On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:47:09 +1000, Zednik wrote:

euthenasia might be more effective

"DrRobert J. Ragge" <RJ.Ragge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:j3kkksn78db4$.1caepjzhg8oca.dlg@40tude.net...

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:10:58 -0500, DGVREIMAN wrote:

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

=A9 Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran
would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon. I said all
diplomacy will fail. The reason I cited was simple:

Radical Religion.

The Iranians have been building and exporting terrorist
militias
for decades. They recruit child suicide bombers with TV
cartoons
directed at small children, they used children armies,
locked arm
in arm, to sweep Iraqi mine fields during the Iraq/Iranian
war.
They regularly recruit the insane, or mentally handicapped
to
carry their suicide bombs, and they pay the families of
their
suicide bombers handsomely after a family member carries out
a
suicide murder attack. And if that is not enough, many of
the
children they used as human mine sweepers during the
Iranian/Iraqi war were found with high levels of LSD and
other
drugs in their tiny bodies.

So much for the love of "Mohammed" - if that is what the
Iranians
call "love" then we sure as hell do not need any hate
running
about.

The Iranians regularly and with great glee also specifically
target small children both in Israel and now in Iraq for
slaughter.

For decades the Iranian Ayatollahs have been telling all
Muslim
people in the world that radical Islam is the only true
religion,
and Allah is radical and Allah will protect them and help
the
radical Islamic armies defeat the infidel invaders.

And after all those years of howling and barking their witch
doctors' nonsense to the Muslim world, did we really believe
they
would just lay down their arms and go home because we asked
politely to do so? Maybe Jihad Cindy Sheehan is dumb enough
to
believe such nonsense, but I sure am not.

So, of course, I was right again. I told you so.

What Happened and What Will Happen

Today, with a vote of 27 to 3, and five abstentions (Cuba,
Syria
and of course Venezuela voted against the resolution) the
Useless
Nations voted to send this issue to an even more useless
body
known as the Security Council, or a.k.a. the "Stall
Council."

In response to this example of overwhelming solidarity among
all
of the free nations of the world, Iran responded with; "all
diplomacy is over in respect to them stopping the enrichment
of
their uranium" and "all future inspections by the IAEA will
not
be allowed." (Or words to that effect).

So what else is new?

We already knew Iran was going to find a way to become
belligerent as in the past when Iran belligerently
confronted our
Don Knotts President (Jimmy ("I Hav Sinned") Carter) or the
big
bellflower himself, "Cut and Run and Appease" Bill and
Hillary
Clinton, Iran always forced those "leaders" to back down,
run and
hide, cower in the closet, pee their pants, etc. etc . . .
And if
they didn't back down Iran simply bombed a few more Marine
Barracks, slaughtered a few more mobs of children begging
for
candy, or blew up a few more apartment buildings, and the
White
House trembled in political fear that it just might be
called on
to actually do something to protect the American people
during
its watch - so Iran always got what it wanted in the past,
and it
believes it can use the same bluster and murder tactics to
get
its nuclear bombs.

But now things are different. The proverbable "rock" has
encountered the proverable "hard place." And there is now a
Cowboy occupying the White House and the "Cowboy way" is to
fight
back and not run and hide like the "Screaming Liberal" way.

(Thank God for our last few real Cowboys say I. It looks
like we
sure as hell are going to need them).

Meanwhile, look for Iran to now attempt to purchase nuclear
weapons from North Korea, or secretly from Pakistan. Iran
knows
that if the world is united against it building nuclear
weapons,
then all it needs to do is buy them secretly, and then
continue
to argue and stall over a nuclear weapon program that is
going to
go forward no matter what deals, offers, diplomacy is
ultimately
offered to Iran. Yet if Iran can purchase a few nukes, then
when
it is embargoed, it can use those nukes as blackmail to
release
the embargo.

If Iran does not secure any nuclear weapons from North Korea
or
Pakistan, then look for it to saber rattle with its huge
stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons - which will
be
loaded in its thousands of missiles and all missiles will be
targeted toward: (1) Israel, (2) Our troops in Iraq, (3)
Kuwait.
Look for bluster and blackmail from the Ayatollahs over this
nuclear issue and nothing else other than stalling double
talk
and false promises.

The Ayatollahs simply cannot back down ever, regardless. If
they
did, it would be tantamount to admitting that Allah is not
on
their side, and the Christian/Jew God is greater than Allah.
To
these pea brains, they actually believe that God decides who
wins
wars.

The Ayatollahs might be right about God determining who will
win
this war - but I still say "Praise God" but pass the
Tactical
Nukes.

What we need to use to get to those deep Iranian underground
nuclear weapon plants, and those stockpiles of Chemical and
Biological weapons Iran possesses that are also buried
underground, are Tactical Nuclear weapons that can use an
initial
explosion to drive the main charge deep underground before
it is
detonated. (There might be some conventional weapons as well
that
could do the job but if they exist I don't know about them -
the
Iranian nuclear, biological and chemical weapon plants are
buried
too deep for typical bunker buster type weapons, not unless
several of those weapons could be used repeatedly - which
would
be akin to using the first few bombs to dig a deep hole for
the
last bomb to explode in).

But before we can use the kind of weapon that we must use to
stop
Iran from stockpiling nuclear weapons and starting a middle
eastern nuclear arms race, we should first bring NATO on
board,
and allow this operation to be strictly a NATO operation -
with
American Generals in charge of course. If not, then the
Screaming
Liberal Army will have a field day blaming the USA for the
first
to use Nuclear Weapons in this war.

Nevertheless, what good are our great and powerful weapons
if we
do not have the political resolve to use them when we are
confronted with a clear and present danger like Iran? Where
is a
Harry Truman when you really need one?

Someone in our Government must bite the political bullet and
start talking about our military options with Iran - as I
absolutely guarantee you there will be no other option that
will
eliminate this Iranian threat to the world.

Moreover, note that we just helped to create another state
worse
than Iran. It will be called the new Palestinian State ruled
by
yet another Iranian militia known as Hamas. They will be the
ones
building nukes next if we do not stop Iran now.

The possibility of mushroom clouds over the world just got a
little more likely today. Too likely if you ask me. Waiting
for
Iran to give WMD to terrorists, including its Chemical and
Biological weapons, is not an option we can live with. And
since
Iran itself has proclaimed to the world "the diplomacy is
over"
then what the hell are we waiting for - doomsday?



Doug Grant (Tm)


Doug

I'm going to have to cancel your monday afternoon session,
call my
receptionist for a new appointment

Dr. Ragge



"Dr Robert J. Ragge" <RJ.Ragge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vrirg5juw5j9.1b8vqwgq1k7u.dlg@40tude.net...

I'll pass on your suggestion to Doug when he comes in for his
new
appointment.

Dr. Ragge


Doug Says: Now the BS Brooks smear merchants are forging
Doctor's names along with forged FBI documents, false statements
they attribute to me, and malicious libel of all sorts and
descriptions. I guess they believe one more forgery they can use
to try and defame me is nothing compared to all the forgeries
they have produced already - "might as well be hung as a sheep
than a lamb" their pea brains must be figuring.

No doubt the lack of ethics and the general immorality of the BS
Nigel Brooks gang is glaring - and it is something all those that
ever read their posts in the future should be apprised of; -
Fact: You just cannot believe anything this smear merchant gang
says - they are completely off the deep end with their fraud and
forgeries - and this post is a classic example.

I do not have any appointments with Dr. Ragge - never had, and
probably never will.

Yeh,......but you definately *should* have them.
The lies and forgeries from this BS Brook's

gang member alias are obvious.
=20
Doug Grant (Tm)

.

User: "Rsmitty"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 05 Feb 2006 04:15:15 PM
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 14:22:56 -0500, DGVREIMAN wrote:



On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:47:09 +1000, Zednik wrote:

euthenasia might be more effective

"DrRobert J. Ragge" <RJ.Ragge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:j3kkksn78db4$.1caepjzhg8oca.dlg@40tude.net...

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 19:10:58 -0500, DGVREIMAN wrote:

WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW

© Copyright 2006 by DGVReiman, all rights reserved.

For months I have been predicting the Ayatollahs of Iran
would
never back down from building a nuclear weapon. I said all
diplomacy will fail. The reason I cited was simple:

Radical Religion.

The Iranians have been building and exporting terrorist
militias
for decades. They recruit child suicide bombers with TV
cartoons
directed at small children, they used children armies,
locked arm
in arm, to sweep Iraqi mine fields during the Iraq/Iranian
war.
They regularly recruit the insane, or mentally handicapped
to
carry their suicide bombs, and they pay the families of
their
suicide bombers handsomely after a family member carries out
a
suicide murder attack. And if that is not enough, many of
the
children they used as human mine sweepers during the
Iranian/Iraqi war were found with high levels of LSD and
other
drugs in their tiny bodies.

So much for the love of "Mohammed" - if that is what the
Iranians
call "love" then we sure as hell do not need any hate
running
about.

The Iranians regularly and with great glee also specifically
target small children both in Israel and now in Iraq for
slaughter.

For decades the Iranian Ayatollahs have been telling all
Muslim
people in the world that radical Islam is the only true
religion,
and Allah is radical and Allah will protect them and help
the
radical Islamic armies defeat the infidel invaders.

And after all those years of howling and barking their witch
doctors' nonsense to the Muslim world, did we really believe
they
would just lay down their arms and go home because we asked
politely to do so? Maybe Jihad Cindy Sheehan is dumb enough
to
believe such nonsense, but I sure am not.

So, of course, I was right again. I told you so.

What Happened and What Will Happen

Today, with a vote of 27 to 3, and five abstentions (Cuba,
Syria
and of course Venezuela voted against the resolution) the
Useless
Nations voted to send this issue to an even more useless
body
known as the Security Council, or a.k.a. the "Stall
Council."

In response to this example of overwhelming solidarity among
all
of the free nations of the world, Iran responded with; "all
diplomacy is over in respect to them stopping the enrichment
of
their uranium" and "all future inspections by the IAEA will
not
be allowed." (Or words to that effect).

So what else is new?

We already knew Iran was going to find a way to become
belligerent as in the past when Iran belligerently
confronted our
Don Knotts President (Jimmy ("I Hav Sinned") Carter) or the
big
bellflower himself, "Cut and Run and Appease" Bill and
Hillary
Clinton, Iran always forced those "leaders" to back down,
run and
hide, cower in the closet, pee their pants, etc. etc . . .
And if
they didn't back down Iran simply bombed a few more Marine
Barracks, slaughtered a few more mobs of children begging
for
candy, or blew up a few more apartment buildings, and the
White
House trembled in political fear that it just might be
called on
to actually do something to protect the American people
during
its watch - so Iran always got what it wanted in the past,
and it
believes it can use the same bluster and murder tactics to
get
its nuclear bombs.

But now things are different. The proverbable "rock" has
encountered the proverable "hard place." And there is now a
Cowboy occupying the White House and the "Cowboy way" is to
fight
back and not run and hide like the "Screaming Liberal" way.

(Thank God for our last few real Cowboys say I. It looks
like we
sure as hell are going to need them).

Meanwhile, look for Iran to now attempt to purchase nuclear
weapons from North Korea, or secretly from Pakistan. Iran
knows
that if the world is united against it building nuclear
weapons,
then all it needs to do is buy them secretly, and then
continue
to argue and stall over a nuclear weapon program that is
going to
go forward no matter what deals, offers, diplomacy is
ultimately
offered to Iran. Yet if Iran can purchase a few nukes, then
when
it is embargoed, it can use those nukes as blackmail to
release
the embargo.

If Iran does not secure any nuclear weapons from North Korea
or
Pakistan, then look for it to saber rattle with its huge
stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons - which will
be
loaded in its thousands of missiles and all missiles will be
targeted toward: (1) Israel, (2) Our troops in Iraq, (3)
Kuwait.
Look for bluster and blackmail from the Ayatollahs over this
nuclear issue and nothing else other than stalling double
talk
and false promises.

The Ayatollahs simply cannot back down ever, regardless. If
they
did, it would be tantamount to admitting that Allah is not
on
their side, and the Christian/Jew God is greater than Allah.
To
these pea brains, they actually believe that God decides who
wins
wars.

The Ayatollahs might be right about God determining who will
win
this war - but I still say "Praise God" but pass the
Tactical
Nukes.

What we need to use to get to those deep Iranian underground
nuclear weapon plants, and those stockpiles of Chemical and
Biological weapons Iran possesses that are also buried
underground, are Tactical Nuclear weapons that can use an
initial
explosion to drive the main charge deep underground before
it is
detonated. (There might be some conventional weapons as well
that
could do the job but if they exist I don't know about them -
the
Iranian nuclear, biological and chemical weapon plants are
buried
too deep for typical bunker buster type weapons, not unless
several of those weapons could be used repeatedly - which
would
be akin to using the first few bombs to dig a deep hole for
the
last bomb to explode in).

But before we can use the kind of weapon that we must use to
stop
Iran from stockpiling nuclear weapons and starting a middle
eastern nuclear arms race, we should first bring NATO on
board,
and allow this operation to be strictly a NATO operation -
with
American Generals in charge of course. If not, then the
Screaming
Liberal Army will have a field day blaming the USA for the
first
to use Nuclear Weapons in this war.

Nevertheless, what good are our great and powerful weapons
if we
do not have the political resolve to use them when we are
confronted with a clear and present danger like Iran? Where
is a
Harry Truman when you really need one?

Someone in our Government must bite the political bullet and
start talking about our military options with Iran - as I
absolutely guarantee you there will be no other option that
will
eliminate this Iranian threat to the world.

Moreover, note that we just helped to create another state
worse
than Iran. It will be called the new Palestinian State ruled
by
yet another Iranian militia known as Hamas. They will be the
ones
building nukes next if we do not stop Iran now.

The possibility of mushroom clouds over the world just got a
little more likely today. Too likely if you ask me. Waiting
for
Iran to give WMD to terrorists, including its Chemical and
Biological weapons, is not an option we can live with. And
since
Iran itself has proclaimed to the world "the diplomacy is
over"
then what the hell are we waiting for - doomsday?



Doug Grant (Tm)


Doug

I'm going to have to cancel your monday afternoon session,
call my
receptionist for a new appointment

Dr. Ragge



"Dr Robert J. Ragge" <RJ.Ragge@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vrirg5juw5j9.1b8vqwgq1k7u.dlg@40tude.net...

I'll pass on your suggestion to Doug when he comes in for his
new
appointment.

Dr. Ragge


Doug Says: Now the BS Brooks smear merchants are forging
Doctor's names along with forged FBI documents, false statements
they attribute to me, and malicious libel of all sorts and
descriptions. I guess they believe one more forgery they can use
to try and defame me is nothing compared to all the forgeries
they have produced already - "might as well be hung as a sheep
than a lamb" their pea brains must be figuring.

No doubt the lack of ethics and the general immorality of the BS
Nigel Brooks gang is glaring - and it is something all those that
ever read their posts in the future should be apprised of; -
Fact: You just cannot believe anything this smear merchant gang
says - they are completely off the deep end with their fraud and
forgeries - and this post is a classic example.

I do not have any appointments with Dr. Ragge - never had, and
probably never will. The lies and forgeries from this BS Brook's
gang member alias are obvious.

Doug Grant (Tm)

Hey Doug, my appointment with Dr. Ragge is next Friday. See if he can fit
you in around noon and we'll have a beer or two afterwards and shoot the
bull about old times in Can Tho. I've got an extra ticket to Brokeback
Mountain, Wanna go with me?
Smitty
Smitty
.
User: "Dr.Profe"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 05 Feb 2006 05:18:07 PM
Rsmitty wrote:

Hey Doug, my appointment with Dr. Ragge is next Friday. See if he can fit
you in around noon and we'll have a beer or two afterwards and shoot the
bull about old times in Can Tho. I've got an extra ticket to Brokeback
Mountain, Wanna go with me?
Smitty

Hey Smitty, Doug and I already saw Brokeback Mountain and we are going
to see it again right after our counseling appointment with Doc Ragge
this Monday. Stay the hell out of my way Smitty. I told you before,
Doug is mine.
See you around the group,
Dr.Profe
.




User: "Rev. Horny Cocksucker"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 05 Feb 2006 04:04:33 AM
Yoy're a moron and a blackjack player. Go away.
.

User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"

Title: Re: WHAT IRAN WILL DO NOW 04 Feb 2006 06:23:55 PM
nuke the damn m,uslim scum now.
bush the republican ***** is too much of a chicken-*****.
eevr notice how if a country has fake wmd's, bush rushes right in, however
if a country has
REAL wmd's, then all of a sudden, the ***** bush has to use diplomacy to
resolve the issue
the only good muslim is a dead muslim
.


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